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I see that salamence really wanted a rematch, lol. Good luck with that!
Also kerset you betrayed me i wished i could bribe you into giving me a nice ability but instead this is the very first time, in all of my mafia career, that i rolled VT. Even before joining this site, i always rolled PR, 3p or scum.
Don't worry. I can recruit you, so you can be cultist, instead of that horrible VT role! Are you interested?
In post 43, Null Vote wrote:Not_Cult Leader probably wants to instant hammer L-1 towns, right?
Actually.
@Bingle
why did *you* not came up with that? I mean, you have a reputation of a player who is heavily focused on mechanics.
Cause it's wrong and I don't often engage in setup spec about what the mafia should do unprompted? If you want me to weigh in on what cult should do, ask again when it's not exactly the wrong thing for me to weigh in on. Or recruit me and I'll let you know in the cult PT.
VOTE: Hectic
srs business.
There are three people asking me to recruit them already. I really don't know who to choose.
In post 119, shos wrote:
Worst case scenario is even supremely worse, where there is no UT and scum know this and THEY claim UT thus "conftowning" themselves until PRs die in the game when the setup becomes clearer.
This is exactly what is Bingle trying to prevent.
If you are PT and see someone claim a role which can't coexist with yours, you simply CC. So Cult Leader gets lynched by day 2.
If we don't mass claim not UT, cult
In post 101, Bingle wrote:I think it’s vaguely for the best if UTs claim D1. If we have a UT massclaim our EV shoots way up and there’s nothing scum can do to stop it. OTOH, if scum claims UT they will be found by any other or claim and both cultists have to claim.
VOTE: Bingle
I think this is the first talk worthy thing in the game. Such claim would really be stupid for cult as that would put them in a 1v1 with a real UT. It makes all sorts of sense that if scum ever come to claim, they'll claim VT or a PR to draw PRs out or something. Therefore, this post is, most likely, coming from a cultist which is not the cult leader.
Why exactly are you voting someone who you think that is not Cult Leader?
My reading is based on how much people are moving the conversation forward. That's why I simply don't have any reads early in the game. Since Farkran is pushing me, I guess it's time to dive into people's ISOs and find if I can find something.
Not A Korina Alt
: Firstly, I don't like that her name and posts say two different things. I am not sure which one to trust. Well, it's NAI I guess. Apart from claiming to be Korina, he discusses mechanics. Few game-progressing posts.
In post 83, Not A Korina Alt wrote:That there's likely one scum on each of the wagons. The fact nobody really got to L-1 makes me think both scum were on either you or NL, or split, like I said. I wanted to RVS NL since the start for the reason of him making a shitty joke about no-lynch not being an option.
Calls this, let's see i he pushes this in the future.
TOWN
Kanna
Hectic
Bingle
Shos
Korina
Salamence
Nolynch
Poyzin
SCUM
Moved Hectic, Bingle and Shos up for what looked like genuine setup spec. Setup spec by itself usually comes from town, debating on which is the best strategy is almost always TvT. I still like kanna the most.
Moved Salamence down for not contributing enough.
My current guess is that nolynch, poyzin or both can be used as solid wagon solves for today. The read on no lynch is mostly gut/tone based at this point, i... was pinged the wrong way by his interaction with the UTs argument. Poyzin on the other hand just looks like scum trying to skirt the gamestate until he can prey on a real wagon, i don't like that at all.
Waiting for korina.
I don't like this readlist at all. Mostly due to Bingle.
No he doesn't. Just pushes Bingle who wasn't on either of the wagoons (this isn't scummy, but shows lack of sorting/ hunting)
All in all, he is
Not Townread
Salamance
: ISO shorter than this post, one read, which is even not confident.
Spoiler:
In post 96, Salamence20 wrote:Falkran is probably town, but since this is cult who knows.
Kanna's a very slight townlean so far. Poyzin's entrance seems to be NAI for
reasons
, but I WANNA HEAR MORE FROM YOU BECAUSE YOU'RE AMAZING, POYZIN
I haven't liked what "Korina" chose to comment on when there were other more interesting things, but I agree his tone is very different to last time I played with him where he actually rolled cult
In post 83, Not A Korina Alt wrote:That there's likely one scum on each of the wagons. The fact nobody really got to L-1 makes me think both scum were on either you or NL, or split, like I said. I wanted to RVS NL since the start for the reason of him making a shitty joke about no-lynch not being an option.
you think scum are more likely to put someone on L-1?
NOT FOLLOWING YOUR LOGIC, KORINA??????
In post 83, Not A Korina Alt wrote:Also, I still wanna powerlynch Bingle. Bingle shouldn't be allowed to survive to MyLo IMO.
In post 82, Hectic wrote:but I WANNA HEAR MORE FROM YOU BECAUSE YOU'RE AMAZING, POYZIN
Awww, you've inspired me! I'd recommend getting a better keyboard though so you don't accidentally hit the caps lock button as many times as you have. I'm getting shady vibes from "no lynch" the player, and the cult leader claim out of the gate left me with a bad taste in my mouth. I mean, it obviously was a joke because you don't simply claim to be the leader of the anti-town faction. ...but that's the thing... For some reason I'm feeling that this was just a really risky scum play, to say that to appear as town by making such a blatantly false joke.
Somebody please talk some sense into me because this is definitely unreasonable... right?
Oh wow, I didn't realise someone had glued down my CAPS LOCK KEY GODDAMMIT THERE IT GOES AGAIN HAng on there we go I fixed it. Sorry.
I'd read the No lynch (who I am now nicknaming Nolly) claiming cult leader as completely NAI; I wouldn't read into it if I were you. What do you think of sh0s putting Nolly on L-1 in 69?
Also, let me know what you think of Farkran's logic of claiming VT in 81.
VOTE: Salamence
Hey, Salsa, what's your opinion of Bungle pushing massclaiming not UT, and do you think it was put forward with good intentions?
Ditto
In post 151, Hectic wrote:Lul, Kanna's been a UTR in every game I've played in. Kanna, what's your opinion of Korina's read on Poyzin's recent post, and do you agree/disagree?
ALSO
I think we should move out of the setup spec. Anyone who hasn't already claimed not UT should do so now, otherwise, I'm seeing any UT claims on day 2 onward as scumclaims
.
Pushes game forward.
All in all, he is
Townread
Bigle
: he is know or focusing on mechanics. It's unwise to scum/townreading him based on his mechanical posts. Very few reads, game progression.
Spoiler:
In post 169, Bingle wrote:Actually, gamestate says Farkran is probably town as well.
VOTE: shos
This is the only exception and I actually do read this post as trying to move the game forward.
All in all, he is
Weak Townlean
Kanna
: Some mechaplay, soem reads.
Spoiler:
In post 109, Kanna wrote:Maybe the readlist? Could be just me but I’m struggling to find AI stuff so it seems weird how can already make a readlist
In post 133, Kanna wrote:Still haven’t meta’d Farkran but since we’re doing this, I’m not UT either. Be back later.
In post 163, Kanna wrote:Also I meta’d Farkran and tbf they’ve done early readlists as town and scum so it’s probably NAI.
There are same reads, mostly about Farkran, nothing gamepushing.
All in all, he is
Not Townread
Poyzin
: ISO shorter than this post, one read, no game progressing.
In post 82, Hectic wrote:but I WANNA HEAR MORE FROM YOU BECAUSE YOU'RE AMAZING, POYZIN
Awww, you've inspired me! I'd recommend getting a better keyboard though so you don't accidentally hit the caps lock button as many times as you have. I'm getting shady vibes from "no lynch" the player, and the cult leader claim out of the gate left me with a bad taste in my mouth. I mean, it obviously was a joke because you don't simply claim to be the leader of the anti-town faction. ...but that's the thing... For some reason I'm feeling that this was just a really risky scum play, to say that to appear as town by making such a blatantly false joke.
Somebody please talk some sense into me because this is definitely unreasonable... right?
All in all, he is
Not Townread
Farkran
:I have already played with him one game under my alt and I am very paranoid of him. Too towny to be town. I need to check out scum games of his before making a read here.
In post 182, Not A Korina Alt wrote:Also, no lynch, I designed this setup. I'm the creator. Ofc I'm going to discuss mechanics in a setup
I made
.
Fark, Kanna are both town.
I want Bingle dead for personal reasons.
No lynch is scum based on their readlist. If they're somehow town, they deserve it IMO.
Discussing mechanics is OK.
Discussing only mechanics is not.
In post 180, Not A Korina Alt wrote:Also, like, it's so fucking obvious that I'm actually Korina, that them playing it off like I'm somehow not Korina is very questionable.
Is it against side rules to claim that you an alt of different player?
I wonder, where did you get the impression, that I am a female dog?
This post is helpful how?
[/spoiler]
For certain reason you though I am samehow related to canines. Chances are, that you think that I am a different player who is someonehow related to canines. No of my alt is related to them but that misunderstanding could influence your reads on me. It's better to ask than then watch you scumread me because my play is off meta of a random player.
I admitted that I didn't publish my read on shos yet and asked him a question.
very funny. But you know what I meant was what gave you the idea shos was gambiting?/why did you say this?
He doublevoted me. I was never L-1. If he did it intentionally, that would be a very towny behaviour, because he could catch cult member that way (I would get "hmmered") or find out that either a cult memebr is alrady on my wagoon or I am Cult Leader (I wasn't hammered).
He probably didn't do it intentionally, but since I wasn't put to L-1 and am town, one of people who voted me {Kanna, Not A Korina Alt, shos} is likely a cult memeber. Furthermore, I don't think that Cult Leader would want to be with the same wagoon as his Cult Member early game, which means that all of them are likely not Cult Leader.
Together with my reads, I believe that Cult Leader is in {Salamance, Poyzin, (Bingle)}.
In post 226, Not A Korina Alt wrote:So let me get this straight No Lynch: I'm scum for RVSing you, forgetting I haven't changed my vote and re-voting you because I believe you're scum? That makes perfect sense!
Die.
My vote isn't changing.
You need to improve your eyeQ.
You are 33% scum just for RVSing me.
I am looking forward to see the case.
Just make sure to clearly type how you interpreted my posts.
Since what I write and what you read are two different things.
In post 226, Not A Korina Alt wrote:So let me get this straight No Lynch: I'm scum for RVSing you, forgetting I haven't changed my vote and re-voting you because I believe you're scum? That makes perfect sense!
Die.
My vote isn't changing.
You need to improve your eyeQ.
You are 33% scum just for RVSing me.
THE FUCK IS THIS LOGIC?
I AM SCUM FOR RANDOMLY VOTING YOU?
THAT MAKES SENSE IN WHAT FUCKING WORLD?
In this.
People though I was on L-1 & I was not hammered -> scum was on my wagoon.
In post 249, Not A Korina Alt wrote:Which, tf is your logic about not being hammered? If someone randomly hammers, they die tomorrow. Especially if there's a quickhammer, or something that looks like it.
In post 172, Null Vote wrote:Not A Korina Alt: Firstly, I don't like that her name and posts say two different things. I am not sure which one to trust. Well, it's NAI I guess.
In post 220, Farkran wrote:@Nolynch are you willing to vote poyzin with me? I really don't like those kind of prodges
VOTE: poyzin
Nolly, why did you sheep Farkran in the above post considering-
In post 172, Null Vote wrote:Farkran:I have already played with him one game under my alt and I am very paranoid of him. Too towny to be town. I need to check out scum games of his before making a read here.
you hold this opinion of him in your reads list?
And what was your read on Poyzin at that point?
I can't read Farkran. As town he is way too blatant town. I briefly looked at his scumgame and he is also towny in them. I guess the best course of action is to read him by PoE. For that I need content from AFK slots. That's why I am voting Poyzin right now.
i wished i could bribe you into giving me a nice ability but instead this is the very first time, in all of my mafia career, that i rolled VT. Even before joining this site, i always rolled PR, 3p or scum.