Micro 916: Medical Meme Mafia (Game Over!)

[emps]

VOTE: hectic

things are going to be

hectic

with you around

[emps]

hey obviousscum are you by chance an alt of blatant scum

[emps]

I'm leaning toward agreeing with massclaiming actions before night but I'm still not sure what ways town could be punished for it, I feel like there's the potential for a lot of confusion and a maximum potential of four possible deaths? Are we going to be able to make sense of night actions even with day 1 target claim?

its probably technically optimal to just

not

use our night actions?

but like who signs up for a bastard game to talk mechanics smh

[emps]

VOTE: hectic

things are going to be

hectic

with you around

There's a number of reasons emps could post this. But my leading theory is that he knows I'm a big threat for scum!him this game. We have quite the history together, so I would expect him to know I'm town by now; especially given that Obum case I just posted which quite frankly makes me Obwn.
So for him to vote me regardless here? Busted, emps.

hectic wtf we arent supposed to bus remember

[emps]

VOTE: Hectic

Hmm this looks like trying too hard

have you ever played with hectic before?

[emps]

what if we just all target the same person? like all of the doctors target the same guy

what happens then?

[emps]

what if we just all target the same person? like all of the doctors target the same guy

what happens then?

i tried to think of what would happen but i forgot that doctors arent supposed to target themselves sooooo

[emps]

Check the PT if you have one, which I don't.

lynch all liars

VOTE: hectic

[emps]

have you ever played with hectic before?

this isn't a meta argument

do you think he is town off meta?

uh he memes a lot and if you couldnt tell most of his posts so far have been memeing

[emps]

so hes not exactly
"trying hard"

also my pagetop hehe

[emps]

I've changed my mind. VOTE: Jake

wot

explain this one to me

[emps]

actually now that i look at his posts they seem kinda akward/forced tbh

[emps]

yote VOTE: jake

[emps]

this is nagl

What's that?

not a good look

[emps]

Emps seemed to jump from the Hectic wagon to my wagon. Interesting.

you thought my vote on hectic was serious?

i think both were pretty obviously jokes

[emps]

actually now that i look at his posts they seem kinda akward/forced tbh

Why'd you take your vote off me after holding this opinion?

that was referring to jake fyi

[emps]

i think both were pretty obviously jokes

idk that your jake vote was obviously a joke, I'm not sure it was 'serious' but it seemed like a normal push?

i was talking about both hectic votes because i kind of voted hectic twice?

my jake votes kinda serious tho

[emps]

i think both were pretty obviously jokes

idk that your jake vote was obviously a joke, I'm not sure it was 'serious' but it seemed like a normal push?

i was talking about both hectic votes because i kind of voted hectic twice?

my jake votes kinda serious tho

But why was it serious?

because your jokes felt forced/overly formal?

[emps]

because your jokes felt forced/overly formal?

Spoiler:

is that the right image?

am i missing a joke here

[emps]

on mobile rn will do things once im on pc

i think nurse should save for the day before lylo (d2, unless we lynch scum today)

[emps]

Did you make that decision before or after receiving your role PM?

before

What troubles me is him asking for our opinion on claiming targets in advance, rather than giving his own. Given you read HALF a game through, I'd have thought you'd have some opinions of your own, right? I do love your fur though, so I hope we can still be acquainted.

I have some thoughts but I didn't want to just lead with it, wanted to see if people had their own to share. My gut tells me it'd be significantly useful to know who targeted who ahead of time so we know what the dead did - it restricts scums fakeclaiming space - and there's not as much way scum could manipulate it tonight since they don't have any information about which doctor is which either. however, I can see how later game it may let scum deduce which doctor is which before the town can. so I'm kinda torn, my vote is maybe on advance claiming but I still want to survey the past games to see how that either worked out or backfired

i feel like the issue with doctors claiming targets would be the fact that the nurse has to fakeclaim a target

[emps]

omg emps are you finally town? it looks like you are back to freely spewing/spamming without worries my dude!

ico, just because i told u not to bus me doesnt mean u have to tr me

[emps]

i think both were pretty obviously jokes

idk that your jake vote was obviously a joke, I'm not sure it was 'serious' but it seemed like a normal push?

i was talking about both hectic votes because i kind of voted hectic twice?

my jake votes kinda serious tho

But why was it serious?

because your jokes felt forced/overly formal?

Is that good evidence for me being scum, or "look at the trees" evidence?

I don't like this question, asking whether there's "good evidence" is trying to lawyer against a scumread on him instead of sorting emps in return or helping emps resolve concerns about his play.

VOTE: Jake

If there is no good evidence, then why would you push for me being scum? All you're accusing me of is making a joke and questioning your reasons, and you respond with "You must be scum because how else could you explain this"

???

its like page 5 dude we dont need very good evidence to have a serious vote this early on lmao

dont think hes accusing u of making a joke...

he never said "you must be scum", its a page 5 vote

youre being overly defensive and not helping us sort you or trying to sort us

[emps]

fuck that last sentence sounded better in my head lmao

[emps]

VOTE: JakeThewolfie

I'm not liking your reaction to the wagon right now.

I hope my voting isn't too...

HECTIC

Spoiler:

ok ok i'll stop now

dont stop we must keep making the hectic puns

[emps]

And just to point out, I am now at L-1, so back the fuck up, thanks.

kind of aggressive and no ones gonna lolhammer pg 6 and like not expect to get lynched next day

[emps]

VOTE: JakeThewolfie

I'm not liking your reaction to the wagon right now.

I hope my voting isn't too...

HECTIC

Spoiler:

ok ok i'll stop now

Do it again. I dare you.

things are going to get

hectic

if we make too many hectic puns

[emps]

what if we just have the nurse claim today

then like

we all just protect the nurse

then scum cant kill them yeah?

[emps]

My thoughts on 116 are I don't know how it would make sense to talk about who we might target to protect if we haven't also talked about scumreads or who we think is even potentially scum - unless we wanted to do some kind of system like "everybody target the person below you in the playerlist"

basically what i have to say abt 116 tbh

[emps]

tring guiltylion

[emps]

i like his progression on jake and him opening up with mechanics to sort of get things going was good as well

[emps]

VOTE: VOTE: Lion

this a serious vote or just rvs shenanigans?

also oh god the vote tags

[emps]

But my joke “assumed” we were both town. How would you NOT perceive that as a joke?

And if you didnt, why wouldn’t you immediately vote me for perspective slip?

Nvm, allow me.

VOTE: ObviousScum

this a serious vote?

cause im gonna be honest, i didnt know ur joke assumed u were both town as well until u pointed it out

[emps]

oh god why am i actually trying in a bastard game

[emps]

i'm too tired it seems. I meant 116. That's why I asked about claiming.

what did u like abt 116?

plenty of ppl discussed claiming and stuff earlier and jake didnt bother to join in

plus hes also admitting that hes not even trying to sort others rn

[emps]

Wow, Emps trying to drag me down with him when he inevitably flips scum. Dirty tactics. Check the PT if you have one, which I don't.

Looking over the setup again, we actually want to spread the checks out on suspects, 3 of them are good for targeting scum with (2 vig shots and a jailkeep).

wait, does this mean we should target who we scumread?

[emps]

i mean actually yeah when we have 2 basically vigs we should actually all target who we scumread

[emps]

yeah i think its kinda bad that i have basically nothing to comment abt obviousscum despite the fact that he has 23 posts

[emps]

outright claiming

outright claiming as in claiming targets or roleclaiming?

[emps]

(roleclaiming as in nurse claiming basically)

[emps]

on mobile again gonna post on pc later

[emps]

Am running from Amrun because she seems kind scary

Pat

hectic

did you even try on this one? this puns pat

hectic

[emps]

Am running from Amrun because she seems kind scary - if I vote her, she'll probably rally 5 votes to quicklynch me in no time.

yeah, if you mess with amrun things could get hectic.

[emps]

help me im running out of hectic puns

[emps]

VOTE: JakeThewolfie

I'm not liking your reaction to the wagon right now.

I hope my voting isn't too...

HECTIC

Spoiler:

ok ok i'll stop now

dont stop we must keep making the hectic puns

I'm gonna EMP your PC if you keep this up.

things are gonna get hectic if u go that far

[emps]

idk couldnt think of a good pun

[emps]

anyone know if this sort of play is normal for jake?

[emps]

woops i mightve forgotten to go onto pc once i got home

but im here now

[emps]

please dont hurt me im sorry

[emps]

things would get pretty

hectic

if that were to happen

[emps]

hey wait my pagetop was stolen

[emps]

thats even more unforgivable

[emps]

@emps:

Why would

Why would you assume we are both town

How could any town know that, including me

i meant that i didnt realize that joke u made "assumed" you were both town at first glance either

[emps]

also heads up

i'm down with a concussion

if only i knew a couple good doctors lol

(concussion no joke tho)

will try to keep up but participation will be low until after weekend

im a pretty good doctor

that is if im not a quack/cpr doctor

[emps]

will start playing tomorrow

outright claiming feels wrong for me but the setup is confusing me rn,, need more time

Do you mean outright claiming what kind of doctor you could be on D1?

how are we gonna know what kind of doctor we might be on d1? yknow, before we have any night actions or any clues as to what our roles may be?

pedit:

yes

[emps]

I personally unvoted because I feel like it's way too unsafe to leave someone like that, when scum could just lolhammer. Even SAYING "lolhammers are scumtells" doesn't mean that person will get lynched the day. The L-1 was accidental, but his reaction was very interesting. I can't tell if Scum or Town would react like that.

I think concern about a quickhammer is overblown. a wagon at L-1 is a game state that is more likely to generate information and much more uncomfortable for scum than a defused L-2 wagon, whether they are being wagoned, on the wagon, or off the wagon.

agree here

idk why people are so scared of lolhammers on like pg 7

like i dont think jake needed to be so like "back off dude im at l-1" i think a normal reaction would be like "im at l-1 fyi"

[emps]

Pretty sure it'd be scum-indicative actually.

non imh's reaction to ur "claim what kind of doctor wed be?" or the announcing that ur at l-1 thing

[emps]

i think the way jake said he was at l-1 is kinda scummy tbh

[emps]

then again there are some ppl who are rly scared of l-1

[emps]

Yeah! L-2!

And just to point out, I am now at L-1, so back the fuck up, thanks.

then again thats probably not the case

1st quote is reaction to hectic being on l-2

2nd quote is his reaction to himself on l-1

[emps]

Why would you assume that only scum would hammer me?

because it was page 6? if u announced "fyi im at l-1" i dont think any townies in this pl would be dumb enough to lynch u

[emps]

Pretty sure it'd be scum-indicative actually.

non imh's reaction to ur "claim what kind of doctor wed be?" or the announcing that ur at l-1 thing

If she actually thought Doctors were told what kind they were. More likely she hasn't seen the doctor PM if that's the case.

i mean if doctors were told what role they were thatd kinda be like insane

we'd have a clearing role, 2 vigs, a jk, and a normal doc

and also a nurse that takes over whatever role dies

plus u basically cant get cced if u claim a specific sanity

itd actually be an autowin if we all knew our sanitys

[emps]

Why would you assume that only scum would hammer me?

because it was page 6? if u announced "fyi im at l-1" i dont think any townies in this pl would be dumb enough to lynch u

Why do you assume idioticy would be the only reason to hammer me, or even anyone else?

there is no one with a non-negative amount of braincells is going to hammer someone page 6 even after l-1 has been declared

[emps]

Why would you assume that only scum would hammer me?

I thought that's the point you were making when you said "it paves the way for a scum claiming a pressure vote on me, which would be a very easy thing to pull off because "well no one CLAIMED L-1 on Jake"", but yeah, accidental town hammers also happen obviously.

Do you think my progression/read on you so far is genuine or fabricated?

Your reads on me feel as genuine as Faux News

his progression on u feels fine but ok

also if his progression feels fake

where is the vote

[emps]

Why would you assume that only scum would hammer me?

because it was page 6? if u announced "fyi im at l-1" i dont think any townies in this pl would be dumb enough to lynch u

Why do you assume idioticy would be the only reason to hammer me, or even anyone else?

there is no one with a non-negative amount of braincells is going to hammer someone page 6 even after l-1 has been declared

Suppose someone had an inkling of my alignment and hammered me because of how confident they were. Would that be a reason other than "They are an idiot or scum"?

they are an idiot for hammering page 6.

[emps]

Why would you assume that only scum would hammer me?

I thought that's the point you were making when you said "it paves the way for a scum claiming a pressure vote on me, which would be a very easy thing to pull off because "well no one CLAIMED L-1 on Jake"", but yeah, accidental town hammers also happen obviously.

Do you think my progression/read on you so far is genuine or fabricated?

Your reads on me feel as genuine as Faux News

his progression on u feels fine but ok

also if his progression feels fake

where is the vote

Now you have me in a bind. Either I vote and you call me scum for only voting after you asked me for it, or you push me for not voting.

i mean you clearly have a read on hectic but ur just sitting on amrun instead of like

using your vote

[emps]

Why would you assume that only scum would hammer me?

I thought that's the point you were making when you said "it paves the way for a scum claiming a pressure vote on me, which would be a very easy thing to pull off because "well no one CLAIMED L-1 on Jake"", but yeah, accidental town hammers also happen obviously.

Do you think my progression/read on you so far is genuine or fabricated?

Your reads on me feel as genuine as Faux News

his progression on u feels fine but ok

also if his progression feels fake

where is the vote

Now you have me in a bind. Either I vote and you call me scum for only voting after you asked me for it, or you push me for not voting.

i mean you clearly have a read on hectic but ur just sitting on amrun instead of like

using your vote

VOTE: Hectic

omg guys look hes scum for voting only after i asked him to vote omg

[emps]

Why would you assume that only scum would hammer me?

because it was page 6? if u announced "fyi im at l-1" i dont think any townies in this pl would be dumb enough to lynch u

Why do you assume idioticy would be the only reason to hammer me, or even anyone else?

there is no one with a non-negative amount of braincells is going to hammer someone page 6 even after l-1 has been declared

Suppose someone had an inkling of my alignment and hammered me because of how confident they were. Would that be a reason other than "They are an idiot or scum"?

they are an idiot for hammering page 6.

Why? Everyone else that was on my wagon are voting me because they want me dead or they want to put pressure on me because they suspect me, which means that everyone on my wagon think I am scum.

but... it was page 6? i dont think anyone wants anyone dead already that early...

[emps]

Why would you assume that only scum would hammer me?

because it was page 6? if u announced "fyi im at l-1" i dont think any townies in this pl would be dumb enough to lynch u

Why do you assume idioticy would be the only reason to hammer me, or even anyone else?

there is no one with a non-negative amount of braincells is going to hammer someone page 6 even after l-1 has been declared

Suppose someone had an inkling of my alignment and hammered me because of how confident they were. Would that be a reason other than "They are an idiot or scum"?

they are an idiot for hammering page 6.

Why? Everyone else that was on my wagon are voting me because they want me dead or they want to put pressure on me because they suspect me, which means that everyone on my wagon think I am scum.

but... it was page 6? i dont think anyone wants anyone dead already that early...

Is information that is given faster a better idea than information that is given over a timespan of days, and can be often incorrect?

this statement makes it sound like the only information you ever get is from lynching

which is false

we get reads on people other than you throughout the day, yknow that right?

[emps]

Pretty sure it'd be scum-indicative actually.

non imh's reaction to ur "claim what kind of doctor wed be?" or the announcing that ur at l-1 thing

If she actually thought Doctors were told what kind they were. More likely she hasn't seen the doctor PM if that's the case.

Hectic is town. Take that to the bank.

agree with this

[emps]

tring hectic/gl rn
tl ico
sr jake

everyone else is kind of ???

[emps]

amrun could u explain to me what u say from george that was scummy?

[emps]

is it mostly the unvote at l-1?

[emps]

or just the overall lack of content cos p much all his posts are hectic puns

[emps]

Is information that is given faster a better idea than information that is given over a timespan of days,

and can be often incorrect?

oh yeah ok instead of trying to read anyone at all we should just randomly lynch people and pray they flip scum got it

holy fuck i tried to post this but theres a 10 quotes within each other limit

i didnt know that was a thing

[emps]

Is information that is given faster a better idea than information that is given over a timespan of days,

and can be often incorrect?

oh yeah ok instead of trying to read anyone at all we should just randomly lynch people and pray they flip scum got it

holy fuck i tried to post this but theres a 10 quotes within each other limit

i didnt know that was a thing

Stop intentionally misrepresenting me.

what is this supposed to mean then?

the only ways i can interpret it are:
1. dont even try to have reads leave it in the hands of rngesus lul
2. lynching 1 day in is a really good idea

[emps]

Time for a fresh scum-driven wagon

VOTE: non lmh

srs vote or?

[emps]

Is information that is given faster a better idea than information that is given over a timespan of days,

and can be often incorrect?

oh yeah ok instead of trying to read anyone at all we should just randomly lynch people and pray they flip scum got it

holy fuck i tried to post this but theres a 10 quotes within each other limit

i didnt know that was a thing

Stop intentionally misrepresenting me.

what is this supposed to mean then?

the only ways i can interpret it are:
1. dont even try to have reads leave it in the hands of rngesus lul
2. lynching 1 day in is a really good idea

If your goal is to win the game as town, then not having reads would be a worse move than having bad reads.

What does #2 even mean

yeah no i agree with that and im saying that you shouldnt do that
#2 is cos u were suggesting that s1 other than scum or s1 doing smth stupid would lolhammer on page 6
1 day in is 1 irl day in fyi

[emps]

tring hectic/gl rn
tl ico
sr jake

everyone else is kind of ???

information about why you lt me and sr jake plz

kind of gut and also kind of sheeping gl

i think ive already explained my jake sr

[emps]

alright yeah lets scumread gl because of d1 vca and lets ignore the fact that hes like the towniest out of everyone here

[emps]

lets completely ignore his progression on jake, his many attempts at sorting, and his good tone, and lets scumread him purely off of d1 vca.

[emps]

Official Vote Count 1.07

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With 9 votes in play, it takes 5 to lynch.

Lynching

GeorgeBailey

(4): Amrun, Non lmh, GuiltyLion, ObviousScum

Jake the Wolfie

(2): Hectic, emps

Non lmh

(1): Iconeum

Hectic

(1): Jake The Wolfie

Not Voting

(1): GeorgeBailey

Deadline:

(expired on 2020-01-28 01:30:00).

Mod notes:

• Iconeum standing V/LA weekends.
  
• Amrun V/LA.

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i dont get this joke

am i stupid

[emps]

im gonna be p busy today

not gonna declare vla cos i can post tmrw anyways but just a heads up

[emps]

alright yeah lets scumread gl because of d1 vca and lets ignore the fact that hes like the towniest out of everyone here

You're acting like "Oh they're townread, they must be town and anyone who attacks them is scum"

Stop White Knighting them.

VOTE: Jake

You are also White Knighting someone who you're confident is a good townie, not a good bullshitter.

that is not why i think youre scum.

i think youre scum because ignoring literally everything else hes done and scumreading him based off of d1 vca (which isnt very accurate) and is also very weak and bullshit reasoning

[emps]

read it as "de-liver"

oh yeah i am stupid

[emps]

you have put almost 0 effort into sorting people

im not gonna accept any wagon with such weak reasoning

[emps]

idgaf about GL, I'm just voting someone talking about wagon purity, wagons don't have bloodlines man.

#AllWagonsMatter

Do I have to put my quacking needle through your head to understand?

you have put almost 0 effort into sorting people

im not gonna accept any wagon with such weak reasoning

I'm not going to accept someone who just says "Don't scumread GL!!! THEY'RE TOWN!!!1!!11!1!"

thats not what im saying. have you even bothered to read my posts? im saying d1 vca is bullshit reasoning and is just about as good as using a random number generator to decide who to vote.

[emps]

if you had an actual case on him other than "omg d1 vca is the best scumhunting method!!1!1!1" maybe id listen.

[emps]

idgaf about GL, I'm just voting someone talking about wagon purity, wagons don't have bloodlines man.

#AllWagonsMatter

Do I have to put my quacking needle through your head to understand?

you have put almost 0 effort into sorting people

im not gonna accept any wagon with such weak reasoning

I'm not going to accept someone who just says "Don't scumread GL!!! THEY'RE TOWN!!!1!!11!1!"

thats not what im saying. have you even bothered to read my posts? im saying d1 vca is bullshit reasoning and is just about as good as using a random number generator to decide who to vote.

If you haven't noticed, I am not voting them. But the fact that 2 people just came up and said to stop scumreading GL pushed my slight scumlean of them into a scumread. VOTE: GuiltyLion

how the fuck does this lead you to scumread gl?

if both people who just defended him are scum, then he has to be town

but if hes scum, then at least 1 person who defended him is town?

so i dont get how this furthers ur scumread on gl???

[emps]

soooo

you scumread 3 people

and 2 of them are considered to be in the "townblock"

and you have 0 reasoning on any of them

except for gl

but somehow that reasoning is worse than 0 reasoning

[emps]

What's your read on George then? How would you rate the quality of his puns?

Scummy and awful.

things are going to get

hectic

between you and i because you just insulted the hectic puns.

[emps]

So you scumread me, George and GuiltyLion, correct?

That is my PoE as of now, yes.

Analyzing the game more will provide more information.

PoE?

that means you have townreads?

care to share with the rest of the class?

[emps]

im gonna be honest here, jake is kinda

wolfie

dont know how i didnt think of that earlier

[emps]

i mean idk if i cant get enough ppl to join on the jake wagon i might hammer george

[emps]

What's your read on George then? How would you rate the quality of his puns?

My point is that if you scumread all 3 of us, then how does people outside of that pool (emps and Obum?) defending GuiltyLion or questioning your vote on him make you more confident on your scumread on GuiltyLion?

Pedit: emps basically said it already

wait a minute you basically said the exact same thing and it made me realize something

he said he has a PoE

its down to george/hectic/gl

2 ppl outside his PoE (aka people he should be townreading) just defended gl

how the fuck does that make him scumread gl???

[emps]

im gonna be honest here, jake is kinda

wolfie

dont know how i didnt think of that earlier

Lul, I was saving that one for a special occasion.

things wouldve gotten

hectic

if you said that one before i did.

[emps]

i mean idk if i cant get enough ppl to join on the jake wagon i might hammer george

We got 3 days, no rush, empy.

Pedit: Goddamit, does this count as abuse? Datisi, help, I'm pretty sure some rules are being broken here.

things will get even more

hectic

if you notify the mod of this.

or is it hecticer?

is that a word?

it is now.

[emps]

What's your read on George then? How would you rate the quality of his puns?

Scummy and awful.

things are going to get

hectic

between you and i because you just insulted the hectic puns.

Please go quack yourself.

things are going to get hecticer if you insult me or my puns one more time.

[emps]

What's your read on George then? How would you rate the quality of his puns?

Scummy and awful.

things are going to get

hectic

between you and i because you just insulted the hectic puns.

Please go quack yourself.

things are going to get hecticer if you insult me or my puns one more time.

You are a Duck with how quack you are.

is that an insult? im not quite sure

idk how to put a pun here but im sure ill find a way sometime later

[emps]

UNVOTE: GuiltyLion

sooooo

you gonna explain anything or answer any of the questions we asked?

or just unvote gl and pretend nothing ever happened

[emps]

Dayvig: Jake

[emps]

UNVOTE: GuiltyLion

sooooo

you gonna explain anything or answer any of the questions we asked?

or just unvote gl and pretend nothing ever happened

So I'm scum no matter what the fuck I do.

Nice.

answer our questions?

[emps]

im not scumreading you for unvoting gl

im scumreading you because you just completely ignored my questions as well as hectics

[emps]

Maybe you should hammer George, this might be your only chance to not be lynched today, Jake.

this is just a weird thing to say IMO

if Hectic thinks Jake is scum, why is he coaching him to hammer another slot?
if Hectic thinks George is scum, why is he feeling better about flipping Jake first?

i assumed he knew it was l-2 for george and was trying to get jake to vote george in order to basically have him as 100% scum

[emps]

i also kind of tried to play along but like i failed

[emps]

look so I agree Jake's reasoning is bad and/or often unexplained but I kinda get the sense he genuinely believes in it? like I'm not sure that he makes posts like 296 as scum.

and then a post like Hectic's 301 saying he "just seems to be focusing on all the wrong things in the questions he asks" pings me as a phrase scum may say when they get an excuse to vote/lynch somebody for being

illogical

rather than being scummy.

idk I want more content from Bailey slot and it's entirely possible I'm overthinking and Jake is just bad scum, but I'm not interested in flipping him just yet. I do think a town!GB would make Jake's slot look a lot worse (and subsequently, Hectic look better) - but if GB is scum then I'd be somewhat confident in town!Jake

i mean hectic has shown games where town!jake isnt doing whatever hes doing rn

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so i dont think hes just bad town tbh

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Emps - ObviousScum - GuiltyLion

Amrun

Hectic

-

George

Bailey

-

Jake

The

Wolfie

Iconeum - Non lmh

I see no reason to oppose Iconeum and non lmh as a perfect town solve that must be eradicated immediately

My lmh vote might be the greatest vote in the history of votes

If I'm wrong on icon it's probably hectic

Let's make that l-3 an l-0 bois

why is your readlist colored like that

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id rather not lynch non imh today

choose between george and jake tbh

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[*]Iconeum standing V/LA weekends.

I assume there'll be more from them over the weekend

hmmmmm

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y not?

why is georgie porgy the pudding to your pie?

eh last minute deadline wagons rarely ever go well

i mean theres 2 days left but still i dont think its a great idea

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if u rly want to just doc non imh for a vig shot i guess

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VOTE: GeorgeBailey

Now that there's no real threat for a hammer, I'll vote George

do you actually scumread george or are u just trying to avoid being lynched

be honest here

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im assuming we all followed the chart thing hectic told us to? i targeted george

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my claim order is

George - - > non - - -> obv - - > ico - - > me - - > gl

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i could switch non/obv or non/george around but im not switching obv/george

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i think amrun and gl are the vigs and scum tried to kill gl/me/hectic and it was either protected or hectic got killed by amrun vig and scum nk

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i think it's technically optimal for scum to target whoever they were supposed to doc for nk

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imo every1 should doc nurse tonight except for gl he just goes and does his own thing cos hes prob vig

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i actually think non is a better lynch today tbh

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i was actually half tempted to target non last night instead of george like the rebel i am

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actually nvm i kinda wanna go last just in case

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Hectic

targets Noni
Noni targets emps
emps targets George
George targets ObviousScum
ObviousScum targets Iconeum
Iconeum targets ObviousScum *not the plan*
GuiltyLion targets

Amrun

Amrun

targets

Hectic

Is it possible to mechanically solve who scum is from this?

i think it's technically optimal for scum to target whoever they were supposed to doc for nk

Then wouldn't this make GL scum?

but gl is also the guy im locktowning rn soooooo

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but gl is also the guy im locktowning rn soooooo

so scum no-killed?

this is a

doctor

game soooo

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karnage its ur turn to claim

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is this LYLO or MYLO? or neither?

mylo

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i actually think non is a better lynch today tbh

emps can you explain this

bc from where I'm sitting, George has been scummy all game, was the counter wagon to confirmed town mislynch, and justified his vote on the counterwagon town mislynch in a really scummy manner

idk but smth feels like off about nons posts and he clearly hasnt put much effort in the game or into solving, and karnages posts arent exactly very good either

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wait so literally nobody is claiming Nurse rn?

I feel Nurse should claim it so they can be conftown and narrow the lynchpool, and help further resolve night actions

well we have a claim order and so far its

george (claimed doc) - - > karnage(non slot, not claimed yet) - - > obvscum - - > gl - - > me

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i mean i wouldnt say im more townread than gl but id like to go last anyways

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that was fast

Karnage your predecessor claimed nurse, please confirm that's your real role

Did he though?

Will start reading now. Probably won't have much to add until morning

i feel like town!you would be comfortable enough claiming your actual role here instead of hesitating

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but gl is also the guy im locktowning rn soooooo

so scum no-killed?

i think this means he isnt aware theres like 6 doctors total in this game sooo

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is this LYLO or MYLO? or neither?

mylo

Then do we consider a no lynch?

i dont think we should no lynch here because we have a nurse (aka conftown) and most people (including me) are locktowning gl

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optimal this night should be every1 except gl protects nurse, nurse protects gl, gl targets whichever of karnage/george isnt lynched today

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but gl is also the guy im locktowning rn soooooo

so scum no-killed?

i think this means he isnt aware theres like 6 doctors total in this game sooo

don't replacements usually look at at least a little bit of the setup tho?

i mean they

should

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george please explain that ico vote more especially when obv/karnage also exist

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ok so all thats left is

ico --> gl --> me

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obv and george thoughts on karnage?

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bottom 3 for sure

wow below gl and i

i could not have guessed that

but fr tho like actual thoughts on karnage?

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statistically there's the minor chance that hec died on lmh as well but I'm not sure it's significant enough to TRUMP reads

how would hectic have died from targeting non?

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ehhh i dont like this ico wagon

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i tl ico fyi

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my reads look smth like this

gl
ico
obv
george/karnage

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sure but why?

mostly tone/gut

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yeah but if he's town doesn't he look at least at the last few posts before doing his NA? like wouldn't he be curious in the hammer and aftermath? I'd almost have an easier time accepting him just not doing a NA than ignoring the 'plan'

uh i mightve done this as tpr before

so i kind of understand lmao

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ico its ur turn to claim fyi

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not sure what to think of obvscum hopping around wagons

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wAgOn HoPpInG iS sCuMmY

didnt say that fyi

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fuck nurse was NKed?

tried softing nurse and placing myself last in claim order so scum would be worried and not claim nurse just in case nurse died

im doc fyi

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@emps because I saw exactly 0 (zero) posts from you where you actually tried to sort Jake rather then just push him.

i mean i didnt really see anything townie from him, and i was actively pointing out scummy things from him and like asking him questions?

isnt that sorting?

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optimal night plan is probs every1 target gl and gl vigs s1

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i mean everyones claimed and no ones claimed nurse yet

and im gonna assume noone in this pl is dumb enough to fakeclaim as town in this situation

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you're like 100% on town GL? like he's the most articulate and sensible player here so he reads really easy but I have no idea what his scum range is. have you played vs scum GL or just feel he's obvtown based on the clarity of thought this game?

never played w/ him before but i just tr him

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optimal night plan is probs every1 target gl and gl vigs s1

There's a 50%(?) chance the paranoid could doc block GL. If that's the case, assuming we mislynch, we lose.

shit i think its actually a little higher than 50%

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odds paranoid died already is 1/3rd so its a 66% chance that paranoid is alive and blocks gl

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emps/george/obvscum

so... you dont sr karnage?

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is that purely through vca?

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heres the plan:

gl vigs s1

everyone else doesnt do a night action

thoughts?

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every time I try to think of what's logical to do with NA's it makes me want to say "fuck it everyone yolo" even though that might lose

i mean yeah its a bastard game

technically optimal just not to use NAs?

but who tf ins to a bastard game to do that

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or we could all go on emps, have GL vig someone, go from there

day 3: "icon who'd you get on"

icon: "ur mom"

yeah but i feel like gl is gonna get nked either way

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i think gl should announce his vig then we just target whoever we scumread(other than who gl is targeting) cos one of us might be paranoid doc?

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i think every1 going on me is a worse idea than targeting whoever we sr(other than who gl is vigging) and praying we have a paranoid doc

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i think every1 going on me is a worse idea than targeting whoever we sr(other than who gl is vigging) and praying we have a paranoid doc

how is ICing you worse if we get a red flip? I don't get it

wait right if theres a kill im cleared cos of paranoid

but also theres a chance theres not paranoid

soooo

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nurse can u claim now pls and thanks u

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easy solution if s1 ccs nurse claim

if we lynch wrong gl shoots fakeclaiming scum

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I'm also not sure I buy that emps townreads me to this degree? like I don't think I've been super especially over the top townie so far this game

im locktowning u mostly for the sake of my sanity

like no1 else here is really townie to me tbh and its kind of a poe tr? idk how to explain it

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i can sort of see scum!icon now

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im less confident on karnage now tbh

kinda just waiting on chem to catchup n stuff

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I targeted ObvScum

random choice

I hadn't read the game
Went thru the playerlist and ended up picking you. Why exactly? Don't know.

who's a better lynch than you today?

literally anyone who was ON wagon rather then off

both main wagons happened super easy
the lynch happened without any(?) or much resistance, that's a strong indicator scum are on wagon

emps/george/obvscum

@emps because I saw exactly 0 (zero) posts from you where you actually tried to sort Jake rather then just push him.

these posts and also gut kind of

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@obv, maybe you can walk us through how your reads changed for these votes on day 1?

35 - ok hectic vote I guess

253 - non vote from out of nowhere

273 - now he's putting GB to L-1 because he's bored?

285 - jake vote (after ico states intent to hammer GB)

357 - Ico vote for reasons

361 - non vote because???

408 - JtW hammer

hated is hammer on JtW day 1 too

what did you hate about it?

It reads like he's not hammering because he thinks JtW is scum but instead it was for the lulz

I'm putting my eggs in the town!guiltylion basket and I'm leaning town on Ico for the simple reason that there is zero scum motivation to lying about not following the plan.

also just refers generally to presence and activity which is statistically very slightly town indicative

Are you implying I haven't been sufficiently active?

your wim seems ok but your reads look gross

wim?

'wanting it more'

also just refers generally to presence and activity which is statistically very slightly town indicative

Are you implying I haven't been sufficiently active?

FaCt ChEcK: did I say ur wim was hi or lo?

neither. you said it was "ok"

What the fuck does any of this even mean? I've never heard the term "wim" before, nor have I ever heard "wanting it more" used in this context. Maybe I'm just dumb, idk

these posts for karnage

feel like his emotion is genuine as well

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Spoiler: 4 emps

although its a meme game still my 5th time rolling scum in a row

you know emps it bothers me when you say stuff like this

talking about completed games for obvious reasons.

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UNVOTE:

My GL town read was built on the fact I thought HE was actually the nurse

what made you think I was the nurse?

regardless, I am not sure Karnage does/thinks to say this as scum

I'm operating under a Chemist/Emps team prediction right now.

and Obv being the Nurse makes sense why everyone was assuming I was a vig

i actually thought u were softing nurse as well

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soooo i wont be on until after night wouldve already began

and this is the slot i feel most comfortable abt voting sooooo

VOTE: chem

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release pt