Micro 916: Medical Meme Mafia (Game Over!)

[Jake The Wolfie]

To begin this game, we must begin with a simple action and a simple question

VOTE: Amrun

Where did you get

YOUR

degree in medicine?

[Jake The Wolfie]

To begin this game, we must begin with a simple action and a simple question

VOTE: Amrun

Where did you get

YOUR

degree in medicine?

I actually work in medicine IRL. Fun fact. Not a physician though.

Unsatisfactory. You must be crazy.

[Jake The Wolfie]

I had no context and no reason to assume it was a joke!

I thought it sounded serious, and if there was some baggage between you two I think it'd be good to clear the air rather than dance around it.

Obum sounds very defensive here. I could see this being scum being caught out very early. Notice the spacing in his two sentences? If he was enraged and distraught as his exclamation mark suggests, he shouldn't have the damn time to separate his sentences like that. And the second sentence sounds a lot more composed than the first. Robot who can turn his emotions on and off on the flick of a switch? Or SCUM?
Scum is my conclusion - if that wasn't clear.

No, I think that they're really an intelligent AI system that perfectly replicated how scum acts, but is actually a Quack Doctor. No wonder they seem crazy.

[Jake The Wolfie]

No, I think that they're really an intelligent AI system that perfectly replicated how scum acts, but is actually a Quack Doctor. No wonder they seem crazy.

Huh, I hadn't actually considered that. Townie points to Jake for seeing that; I think it's a lot harder for scum to come to this conclusion given you need to be DEEP inside a townie mindset to see this.

No, you just need to be a Quack Doctor who is also a Cannibal who just so happen to come across a townie.

...not that i happen to do that.

In any case, I want to know how we could try and solve what doctors we might be.

[Jake The Wolfie]

No, you just need to be a Quack Doctor who is also a Cannibal who just so happen to come across a townie.

...not that i happen to do that.

In any case, I want to know how we could try and solve what doctors we might be.

Claiming targets before end of night seems good. We should probably divide them among towniest players as to not give scum any guaranteed shots at towners.

Did your profile pic use to be red? I recall it being a lot more menacing before.

Ye

[Jake The Wolfie]

Yeah! L-2!

[Jake The Wolfie]

I've changed my mind. VOTE: Jake

Interesting. Care to elaborate, or are you testing for my reaction?

[Jake The Wolfie]

Emps seemed to jump from the Hectic wagon to my wagon. Interesting.

[Jake The Wolfie]

i think both were pretty obviously jokes

idk that your jake vote was obviously a joke, I'm not sure it was 'serious' but it seemed like a normal push?

i was talking about both hectic votes because i kind of voted hectic twice?

my jake votes kinda serious tho

But why was it serious?

[Jake The Wolfie]

i think both were pretty obviously jokes

idk that your jake vote was obviously a joke, I'm not sure it was 'serious' but it seemed like a normal push?

i was talking about both hectic votes because i kind of voted hectic twice?

my jake votes kinda serious tho

But why was it serious?

because your jokes felt forced/overly formal?

Is that good evidence for me being scum, or "look at the trees" evidence?

[Jake The Wolfie]

i think both were pretty obviously jokes

idk that your jake vote was obviously a joke, I'm not sure it was 'serious' but it seemed like a normal push?

i was talking about both hectic votes because i kind of voted hectic twice?

my jake votes kinda serious tho

But why was it serious?

because your jokes felt forced/overly formal?

Is that good evidence for me being scum, or "look at the trees" evidence?

I don't like this question, asking whether there's "good evidence" is trying to lawyer against a scumread on him instead of sorting emps in return or helping emps resolve concerns about his play.

VOTE: Jake

If there is no good evidence, then why would you push for me being scum? All you're accusing me of is making a joke and questioning your reasons, and you respond with "You must be scum because how else could you explain this"

[Jake The Wolfie]

If there is no good evidence, then why would you push for me being scum?

what do you suggest we do instead to try to sort people, especially in the early game?

Talk about who our potential targets for protection are.

[Jake The Wolfie]

And just to point out, I am now at L-1, so back the fuck up, thanks.

[Jake The Wolfie]

Thoughts on nurse claiming and becoming IC?

Bad idea IMO. At best, we have a supposed IC who can be easily CCd by scum, and at worst we have someone that the Mafia do not want to attack in hopea of finding Quack and CPR Docs

[Jake The Wolfie]

Thoughts on nurse claiming and becoming IC?

Bad idea IMO. At best, we have a supposed IC who can be easily CCd by scum, and at worst we have someone that the Mafia do not want to attack in hopea of finding Quack and CPR Docs

Being CCed by scum is literally the best case scenario though?

A sprinkle of WIFOM says otherwise.

Would the nurse out, the mafia would most likely kill them.

[Jake The Wolfie]

And just to point out, I am now at L-1, so back the fuck up, thanks.

kind of aggressive and no ones gonna lolhammer pg 6 and like not expect to get lynched next day

The fact that someone just so happened to forget that they put me at L-1 and another hypoyhetical just "voting for pressure" to actually hammer me is more than beyond warrent for me to say "Yeah uh fuck off, thanks."

[Jake The Wolfie]

Is that all you gotta say, Jake?

Do you have thoughts on Amrun's early read on Obum, or his read on me for example?

What about this?

No comments at all, just "ok?"

[Jake The Wolfie]

more specifically I'm thinking there's probably at least one scum in the {Jake/George/Obvious Scum/Non Imh} bloc that I don't feel has seriously tried to solve or towntell at all yet, but I don't have things that stand out that I want to ask them about

and then either of Amrun/Hectic I'm not townreading yet because they strike me as competent players who could have faked their level of play so far, but I don't think either is scummy either

so I'm kinda at a loss. Hectic - do you think Jake refusing to give thoughts on these things moves the needle on his alignment?

I would love to give my thoughts, when I have them.

[Jake The Wolfie]

Hectic - do you think Jake refusing to give thoughts on these things moves the needle on his alignment?

I did meta-check him yesterday, and yeah, his play here does strike me as weird. Look here: https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p11412103
There's a lot of early pushing for reads, and open thoughts/solving.

But him continuing to give no thoughts in his last couple of posts after knowing I've caught onto that is interesting - not sure yet if he's just taking a different approach this game or is doubling down as scum.

How certain are you that if I were to die right now, I would flip scum?

[Jake The Wolfie]

I think you have the best odds of anyone here right now, but that isn't very high at this stage. Like 45% if you want an arbitrary percentage? Why do you ask?

Do you think that I would get to L-1 without anyone mentioning it?

[Jake The Wolfie]

Are you suggesting your scum buddy would mention scum!you was on L-1? Gion was the only one to post in the short space of time between George's vote and you pointing it out.

Why would I suggest something that literally incriminates me? Unless your goal is to throw shade.

[Jake The Wolfie]

@MrPunGuyManSir

I'm suggesting that Since George didn't announce their L-1 vote, it paves the way for a scum claiming a pressure vote on me, which would be a very easy thing to pull off because "well no one CLAIMED L-1 on Jake"

[Jake The Wolfie]

Why would you assume that only scum would hammer me?

[Jake The Wolfie]

Why would you assume that only scum would hammer me?

because it was page 6? if u announced "fyi im at l-1" i dont think any townies in this pl would be dumb enough to lynch u

Why do you assume idioticy would be the only reason to hammer me, or even anyone else?

[Jake The Wolfie]

Why would you assume that only scum would hammer me?

I thought that's the point you were making when you said "it paves the way for a scum claiming a pressure vote on me, which would be a very easy thing to pull off because "well no one CLAIMED L-1 on Jake"", but yeah, accidental town hammers also happen obviously.

Do you think my progression/read on you so far is genuine or fabricated?

Your reads on me feel as genuine as Faux News

[Jake The Wolfie]

Why would you assume that only scum would hammer me?

because it was page 6? if u announced "fyi im at l-1" i dont think any townies in this pl would be dumb enough to lynch u

Why do you assume idioticy would be the only reason to hammer me, or even anyone else?

there is no one with a non-negative amount of braincells is going to hammer someone page 6 even after l-1 has been declared

Suppose someone had an inkling of my alignment and hammered me because of how confident they were. Would that be a reason other than "They are an idiot or scum"?

[Jake The Wolfie]

Why would you assume that only scum would hammer me?

I thought that's the point you were making when you said "it paves the way for a scum claiming a pressure vote on me, which would be a very easy thing to pull off because "well no one CLAIMED L-1 on Jake"", but yeah, accidental town hammers also happen obviously.

Do you think my progression/read on you so far is genuine or fabricated?

Your reads on me feel as genuine as Faux News

his progression on u feels fine but ok

also if his progression feels fake

where is the vote

Now you have me in a bind. Either I vote and you call me scum for only voting after you asked me for it, or you push me for not voting.

[Jake The Wolfie]

Why would you assume that only scum would hammer me?

I thought that's the point you were making when you said "it paves the way for a scum claiming a pressure vote on me, which would be a very easy thing to pull off because "well no one CLAIMED L-1 on Jake"", but yeah, accidental town hammers also happen obviously.

Do you think my progression/read on you so far is genuine or fabricated?

Your reads on me feel as genuine as Faux News

his progression on u feels fine but ok

also if his progression feels fake

where is the vote

Now you have me in a bind. Either I vote and you call me scum for only voting after you asked me for it, or you push me for not voting.

i mean you clearly have a read on hectic but ur just sitting on amrun instead of like

using your vote

VOTE: Hectic

[Jake The Wolfie]

Why would you assume that only scum would hammer me?

because it was page 6? if u announced "fyi im at l-1" i dont think any townies in this pl would be dumb enough to lynch u

Why do you assume idioticy would be the only reason to hammer me, or even anyone else?

there is no one with a non-negative amount of braincells is going to hammer someone page 6 even after l-1 has been declared

Suppose someone had an inkling of my alignment and hammered me because of how confident they were. Would that be a reason other than "They are an idiot or scum"?

they are an idiot for hammering page 6.

Why? Everyone else that was on my wagon are voting me because they want me dead or they want to put pressure on me because they suspect me, which means that everyone on my wagon think I am scum.

[Jake The Wolfie]

Why would you assume that only scum would hammer me?

I thought that's the point you were making when you said "it paves the way for a scum claiming a pressure vote on me, which would be a very easy thing to pull off because "well no one CLAIMED L-1 on Jake"", but yeah, accidental town hammers also happen obviously.

Do you think my progression/read on you so far is genuine or fabricated?

Your reads on me feel as genuine as Faux News

Lul, why? Do you disagree that you've been acting differently to that newbie game I linked?

I didn't bother looking at it because I am an uncivilized heathen who has no need for silly things like "Meta"

[Jake The Wolfie]

Why would you assume that only scum would hammer me?

because it was page 6? if u announced "fyi im at l-1" i dont think any townies in this pl would be dumb enough to lynch u

Why do you assume idioticy would be the only reason to hammer me, or even anyone else?

there is no one with a non-negative amount of braincells is going to hammer someone page 6 even after l-1 has been declared

Suppose someone had an inkling of my alignment and hammered me because of how confident they were. Would that be a reason other than "They are an idiot or scum"?

they are an idiot for hammering page 6.

Why? Everyone else that was on my wagon are voting me because they want me dead or they want to put pressure on me because they suspect me, which means that everyone on my wagon think I am scum.

but... it was page 6? i dont think anyone wants anyone dead already that early...

Is information that is given faster a better idea than information that is given over a timespan of days, and can be often incorrect?

[Jake The Wolfie]

Why would you assume that only scum would hammer me?

because it was page 6? if u announced "fyi im at l-1" i dont think any townies in this pl would be dumb enough to lynch u

Why do you assume idioticy would be the only reason to hammer me, or even anyone else?

there is no one with a non-negative amount of braincells is going to hammer someone page 6 even after l-1 has been declared

Suppose someone had an inkling of my alignment and hammered me because of how confident they were. Would that be a reason other than "They are an idiot or scum"?

they are an idiot for hammering page 6.

Why? Everyone else that was on my wagon are voting me because they want me dead or they want to put pressure on me because they suspect me, which means that everyone on my wagon think I am scum.

but... it was page 6? i dont think anyone wants anyone dead already that early...

Is information that is given faster a better idea than information that is given over a timespan of days, and can be often incorrect?

this statement makes it sound like the only information you ever get is from lynching

which is false

we get reads on people other than you throughout the day, yknow that right?

Is information that is given faster a better idea than information that is given over a timespan of days,

and can be often incorrect?

[Jake The Wolfie]

Is information that is given faster a better idea than information that is given over a timespan of days,

and can be often incorrect?

oh yeah ok instead of trying to read anyone at all we should just randomly lynch people and pray they flip scum got it

holy fuck i tried to post this but theres a 10 quotes within each other limit

i didnt know that was a thing

Stop intentionally misrepresenting me.

[Jake The Wolfie]

Is information that is given faster a better idea than information that is given over a timespan of days,

and can be often incorrect?

oh yeah ok instead of trying to read anyone at all we should just randomly lynch people and pray they flip scum got it

holy fuck i tried to post this but theres a 10 quotes within each other limit

i didnt know that was a thing

Stop intentionally misrepresenting me.

what is this supposed to mean then?

the only ways i can interpret it are:
1. dont even try to have reads leave it in the hands of rngesus lul
2. lynching 1 day in is a really good idea

If your goal is to win the game as town, then not having reads would be a worse move than having bad reads.

What does #2 even mean

[Jake The Wolfie]

(emps/hec/lion)townblock for me rn
(amrun/icon/obum)null
(jake,george)scum, maybe

VOTE: george

I would like an explanation

[Jake The Wolfie]

intend to hammer

no pls dont hammer my scumbud i want dem 2 liev /s

[Jake The Wolfie]

Jake do you have anything useful to say about your thoughts on George? I just noticed here that you implied that you think he's town

@MrPunGuyManSir

I'm suggesting that Since George didn't announce their L-1 vote, it paves the way for a scum claiming a pressure vote on me, which would be a very easy thing to pull off because "well no one CLAIMED L-1 on Jake"

I find it interesting that we had not 1, but 2 quickie L-1s in this game.

[Jake The Wolfie]

my English teacher in tenth grade taught me that "interesting" is one of the most meaningless words in writing.

What do the "quickie L-1s" tell you about the game state or the alignments of players involved with the wagons?

It's quite declaring that anyone on the wagons are most likely scum, unless George is scum. I doubt an impure wagon on scum on D1 is possible, unless the other scum is very good at the game.

[Jake The Wolfie]

Hectic, emps, GuiltyLion, and George were on my wagon

Amrun, Non lmh, GuiltyLion, ObviousScum are on the George wagon

[Jake The Wolfie]

Hectic, emps, GuiltyLion, and George were on my wagon

Amrun, Non lmh, GuiltyLion, ObviousScum are on the George wagon

Lion, you seem to be the common voter here. The person who in tends to hammer isn't even on the first 4 names. I feel scum vibes from this.

[Jake The Wolfie]

alright yeah lets scumread gl because of d1 vca and lets ignore the fact that hes like the towniest out of everyone here

You're acting like "Oh they're townread, they must be town and anyone who attacks them is scum"

Stop White Knighting them.

VOTE: Jake

You are also White Knighting someone who you're confident is a good townie, not a good bullshitter.

[Jake The Wolfie]

idgaf about GL, I'm just voting someone talking about wagon purity, wagons don't have bloodlines man.

#AllWagonsMatter

Do I have to put my quacking needle through your head to understand?

you have put almost 0 effort into sorting people

im not gonna accept any wagon with such weak reasoning

I'm not going to accept someone who just says "Don't scumread GL!!! THEY'RE TOWN!!!1!!11!1!"

[Jake The Wolfie]

idgaf about GL, I'm just voting someone talking about wagon purity, wagons don't have bloodlines man.

#AllWagonsMatter

Do I have to put my quacking needle through your head to understand?

you have put almost 0 effort into sorting people

im not gonna accept any wagon with such weak reasoning

I'm not going to accept someone who just says "Don't scumread GL!!! THEY'RE TOWN!!!1!!11!1!"

thats not what im saying. have you even bothered to read my posts? im saying d1 vca is bullshit reasoning and is just about as good as using a random number generator to decide who to vote.

If you haven't noticed, I am not voting them. But the fact that 2 people just came up and said to stop scumreading GL pushed my slight scumlean of them into a scumread. VOTE: GuiltyLion

[Jake The Wolfie]

There's probably 1 scum in George/Jake, but feeling better about flipping Jake right now. He just seems to be focusing on all the wrong things in the questions he asks and his attempts to solve. Maybe you should hammer George, this might be your only chance to not be lynched today, Jake.

I'm only hammering if you get other people to back you.

[Jake The Wolfie]

What's your read on George then? How would you rate the quality of his puns?

Scummy and awful.

[Jake The Wolfie]

So you scumread me, George and GuiltyLion, correct?

That is my PoE as of now, yes.

Analyzing the game more will provide more information.

[Jake The Wolfie]

What's your read on George then? How would you rate the quality of his puns?

Scummy and awful.

things are going to get

hectic

between you and i because you just insulted the hectic puns.

Please go quack yourself.

[Jake The Wolfie]

What's your read on George then? How would you rate the quality of his puns?

Scummy and awful.

things are going to get

hectic

between you and i because you just insulted the hectic puns.

Please go quack yourself.

things are going to get hecticer if you insult me or my puns one more time.

You are a Duck with how quack you are.

[Jake The Wolfie]

UNVOTE: GuiltyLion

[Jake The Wolfie]

UNVOTE: GuiltyLion

sooooo

you gonna explain anything or answer any of the questions we asked?

or just unvote gl and pretend nothing ever happened

So I'm scum no matter what the fuck I do.

Nice.

[Jake The Wolfie]

UNVOTE: GuiltyLion

sooooo

you gonna explain anything or answer any of the questions we asked?

or just unvote gl and pretend nothing ever happened

So I'm scum no matter what the fuck I do.

Nice.

answer our questions?

I decided that my logic was faulty and full of holes, so I admitted that I was wrong by unvoting.
Are you going to continue indirectly calling me scum?

[Jake The Wolfie]

so i dont think hes just bad town tbh

So, am I town, or am I scum?

[Jake The Wolfie]

intend to hammer

you had never mentioned george before this right?

..what the hell does this mean

[Jake The Wolfie]

VC

Welcome to Budget hospital. We're too poor to afford an actual vote count.

[Jake The Wolfie]

VC

Welcome to Budget hospital. We're too poor to afford an actual vote count.

hmm, this slot must be day-bp vs my dayvig, seems like a scum ability to me

No, we're on a budget. We cannot financially afford people dying.

[Jake The Wolfie]

VOTE: Iconeum

Explain this vote, please.

[Jake The Wolfie]

VOTE: GeorgeBailey

Now that there's no real threat for a hammer, I'll vote George

[Jake The Wolfie]

VOTE: GeorgeBailey

Now that there's no real threat for a hammer, I'll vote George

do you actually scumread george or are u just trying to avoid being lynched

be honest here

I would've totally hammered George before because I scumread them. However, that would be silly as my confidence levels weren't high, and no one would've probably supported me anyway.

[Jake The Wolfie]

Do you scumread George for any reason other than the fact you don't like his puns and he voted you at one point?

I just don't like that slot in general and want to see them flipped.

[Jake The Wolfie]

VOTE: JakeTheWolfie

I am now at L-1. Which of you will flip me as town?

[Jake The Wolfie]

Like, really. All your using is bad logic and "Oh Jake must be scum because they must play identically to their towngames or else they must be scum!!!!!!!"

[Jake The Wolfie]

Is that good evidence for me being scum, or "look at the trees" evidence?

j/w but what is "look at the trees" evidence?

Dead men tell no tales.

[Jake The Wolfie]

before you self-voted you were at l-2 tied with an opposing wagon that you support so this AtE seems kinda ?

Hammer me and flip me as town. Do it. I dare you.

[Jake The Wolfie]

I will purposefully vote myself to make a point.