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0) Are you town or scum? Town
1) Do you prefer playing town or scum? Scum
2) What is your experience with playing mafia? Played a few times in the last 4 years, but became an online player about a year or so ago.
3) If you could have a super power, what would you pick? persuasion
4) What is your ideal location to live in? Not the north
5) How excited are you to play this game? i enjoy every game of mafia regardless of the outcome or role
6) If you could ask other players another question, what would that question be? Why is lynching an unknown day 1 beneficial to town?- IMASPY
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In post 299, Natsu wrote:
The interplay between Hectic and Pikachu has been sending off alarms in my head. I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed it. I guess it's because all the SE's have played with each other before. Pikachu is really reaching in most of his scumreads, and seems to be crafting narratives out of nothing.In post 293, ROUND ONE wrote:
notice how his scumreads are the people hectic called out for absolutely no reasonIn post 265, Detective Pikachu wrote:
BIn post 105, Detective Pikachu wrote:
Because at least one of them rolled scum and possibly bothIn post 103, Hectic wrote:Why aren't you answering the RQS, Arthur and Luca?
This is not saying you're scum because you didn't answer rqs, it's saying you didn't answer rqs because you're scum. And it was also half joking
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@72offsuit, honestly look at Pikachu's iso and tell me how on earth you see it as being a townread? He looks like a sharper version of my scum partner from last game.
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Based on my previous game with him i would say his day 1 activity is NAI.. playing almost the same exact as they did as VTIn post 309, Luca Blight wrote:I have a slight SR on dsjstr - tonally he seems ok but he’s just floating through with no real content atm. Need to see more from him.- IMASPY
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This is the one post that made him my top town read. Take it under consideration that i have natsu in my current scum team.In post 306, Luca Blight wrote:
This feels like Natsu is allowing himself to be lead into a SR on Arthur.In post 202, Natsu wrote:
You have *several* problems with it? I'll say it looks feigned, but I can't think of too much else, especially when there isn't much else to go on with Arthur. I've actually read the game Mountain in full that he was a part of. I guess this one post in particular looks a bit out of character. His advice for last game was to trust his instincts and not to hide as a PR. Maybe you're just leading my thinking here, but he does seem overly sensitive to near-lynch wagons both here, 50, and 51. Says he's okay with policy lynching eventually (not a good sign). Speaks authoritatively about a "very common" mafia tactic even though it's his second game. Oh and he also never analyzed dkkoba who I believe was on that wagon. Shit, I guess I do have a lot of problems with it as well.In post 187, Hectic wrote: What do you think of 49, Natsu? After rereading it, I have several problems with it.
For the record, I wasn't worried about an early L-1 because a lol-hammer would basically be an admission of guilt. I can't fathom even a newbie town player being the one to hammer on day 1 of day 1.
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Along with this post which i see as very telling as well.In post 308, Luca Blight wrote:And he didn’t mention anything about me v Pikachu, which should have been of interest to him given it was scumread v scumread from his pov.- IMASPY
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I dont know if natsu purposely removed the post number/link or not, but if you are into spoilers check this out.In post 324, Natsu wrote:
When I saidIn post 308, Luca Blight wrote:And he didn’t mention anything about me v Pikachu, which should have been of interest to him given it was scumread v scumread from his pov.
I felt I was clearly taking your interaction into account, just not naming it specifically.I guess it's because all the SE's have played with each other before. Pikachu is really reaching in most of his scumreads, and seems to be crafting narratives out of nothing.
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I have already shown a couple things that would have some indications to why i believe you two could be a scum team.In post 466, Hectic wrote:Why are Natsu and I both scum, Spy?- IMASPY
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At the time of this post Arther had a total of 7 post, and had not posted in over 250 post. I Believe a quick skim of his iso search would show that this is flat out not true.In post 325, Hectic wrote:Natsu, Arthur's been criticising people for "bad play" a lot this game
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i think round 1 is pretty much just playing scummy day 1 because they are numb to caring about day 1.....i have them as my number 2 town read.In post 344, ROUND ONE wrote:i dont remember pog- IMASPY
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I dont see this as calling anyones play bad. I believe this is him stating that he believes that strat to be scummy and that he is not a fan of it as a town play.3. Normally a weird post like this would be considered scummy, listing everyone like you're so smart and not even giving justification? But then again I can't work out if you're scum or just making a bad play.- IMASPY
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i dont know why but i trust em BIn post 347, dsjstr wrote:Luca: Null - He was interactive in his scum game and distant in his town game, he is being a different kind of interactive this game... but he knows I know that(I know what you're trying to do)
Pikachu: Null - I don't see scum targeting each other like that
72o: Town - Was paranoid in his town game but I'd say it is more likely that he just feels more confident that his first game(I know I did)
Hectic/Natsu: Scum - Early on I saw them as a pair. I didn't see real attempts at trying to lynch each other, they then tried to distance themselves.
R1: Town - good boy
Arthur: Town - Just playing the odds; he seemed like he really wanted to be able to solve the game but we were too silly for him
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all while trying to say DP is a scumread of mineIn post 478, IMASPY wrote:
I dont see this as calling anyones play bad. I believe this is him stating that he believes that strat to be scummy and that he is not a fan of it as a town play.3. Normally a weird post like this would be considered scummy, listing everyone like you're so smart and not even giving justification? But then again I can't work out if you're scum or just making a bad play.- IMASPY
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I respect your choice for using previous games, but i dont see that as reliable. We have a long game here so i would not like to mucky my view of a person in this game based on another. Especially when i dont plan on reading a whole game. Just an iso dive on a game in which i know nothing about doesnt seem like it will be great info.In post 480, Hectic wrote:Show we where you see that in his other game.- IMASPY
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this furthered my town read on round oneIn post 364, ROUND ONE wrote:
ok thats better in one way but not in the other wayIn post 363, dsjstr wrote:
R1: Town - Good girlIn post 361, ROUND ONE wrote:
"R1: Town - good boy"In post 347, dsjstr wrote:Luca: Null - He was interactive in his scum game and distant in his town game, he is being a different kind of interactive this game... but he knows I know that(I know what you're trying to do)
Pikachu: Null - I don't see scum targeting each other like that
72o: Town - Was paranoid in his town game but I'd say it is more likely that he just feels more confident that his first game(I know I did)
Hectic/Natsu: Scum - Early on I saw them as a pair. I didn't see real attempts at trying to lynch each other, they then tried to distance themselves.
R1: Town - good boy
Arthur: Town - Just playing the odds; he seemed like he really wanted to be able to solve the game but we were too silly for him
Koba: Null - Sure
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At first i seen this as scummy, but then i checked by bias against this game and remembered you posted that you have only 4 games of forum type mafia. In my games here so far tell me that is NAI.In post 372, Hectic wrote:Btw, I think the replace-out is pretty scum-indicative in this case.- IMASPY
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In post 487, Hectic wrote:Lul, in what way does that warrant a townread?
It's strictly tone and confidence I'm talking about regarding Arthur. Skimming his ISO in that other game to see that took me less than 5 min.
I have already posted i think round one is playing scummy on purpose as town. I could be wrong but that is just my read as of now. So this is townreading their tone, and i have already posted about townreading their actions. Hence town read.In post 387, Hectic wrote:I get what you mean. I'm townreading their tone and scumreading their actions.
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From lucas perspective it was not 9 minutes. These post are 7 hours apart. You posted many times throughout those 7 hours without bringing it up. So it was really over 7 hours to respond. Im not saying that is bad since based on your post during this time it makes since it would be from a phone at work. I think you two are likely TvT for this 1v1. Im not sold on PD as town yet though.
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Nice dude +1 to town for that reaction to an obvious trap.In post 490, Hectic wrote:I have more like 20 completed forum games. I disagree it's not scummy in that context, but Jaiden's probably right in that it's angleshooty so I'll avoid talking more about it.
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I am kinda avoiding this question. Id rather not answer this if its okay? I mean if someone else was pressing me on it i may reconsider, but since it is you in question id rather not debate with you on reasons i scumread you.In post 527, Hectic wrote:I'm still pretty happy with a SPy lynch.
You avoiding this question, Spy?In post 501, Hectic wrote:Try and address:
-What you found scummy between Natsu and I. I know you quoted some posts, but I wanna hear your reasoning for those posts.- IMASPY
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I mean Natsu happens to be the only player below DP on my scum list..... so i dont think its that interesting. Also, I wouldnt put DP much below Hectic. Im still seeing a possible team between them.In post 518, 72offsuit wrote:Interestingly, sees DP as his #2 scum target, yet happy to vote with him for Natsu.- IMASPY
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It is only a couple days into day 1..You werent exactly brimming with post... I posted about 11 times more than your total for the game on my first session, but to be fair i sat here reading and posting for about 4 hours on and off. Post number is NAI. I just didnt feel confident calling you anything thing. Pretty similar to DkKoba. Dsjstr hasnt been active, however, this is the only person in the game that i feel confident about lack of posting being more likely AI of town. But let me say this again Post number is NAI.In post 518, 72offsuit wrote:Completely ignores myself and DK.. just randomly shoves us 2 in the middle of his scale- IMASPY
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Im not sure what this will accomplish. Im also not sure if you meant for that last part to be worded like that.In post 544, Hectic wrote:Why? For town!you, in the case that I am town, you can convince me your thought process is genuine, and hopefully get me to stop scumreading me.- IMASPY
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Hey if you never think im town this game its alright. I doubt any town will ever be able to town read every other town. Like i said ill be here trying to solve it for town till the day i die. If you never end up being a town read for me i doubt ill ever debate why i am scum reading you with you. Perhaps if i come to the conclusion that i believe you are town ill make sure you know where i was getting my scum reads from.- IMASPY
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I cant really be concerned with if one of my top scum reads believing if im genuine when i am already skeptical of you to begin with. There is nothing to be gained by discussing reads with a person when im doubting they will be truthful. You could easily go into how im misrepresenting you in some way or another, and i really wouldnt have anyway to prove i wasnt misrepresenting you aside from posting the quotes for everyone to look at and choose for themselves. But since the post are already there for everyone to look at i can wait till one of them are skeptical of my reads and want to know more. I can atleast have a conversation with them without worrying so much about their intentions.- IMASPY
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I wonder if I might already addressed this. Perhaps you missed it?In post 554, Hectic wrote:
Also, you were fine answering a question I had about a different read of yours. So it feels like you're intentionally dodging this one.In post 489, IMASPY wrote:In post 487, Hectic wrote:Lul, in what way does that warrant a townread?
It's strictly tone and confidence I'm talking about regarding Arthur. Skimming his ISO in that other game to see that took me less than 5 min.
I have already posted i think round one is playing scummy on purpose as town. I could be wrong but that is just my read as of now. So this is townreading their tone, and i have already posted about townreading their actions. Hence town read.In post 387, Hectic wrote:I get what you mean. I'm townreading their tone and scumreading their actions.
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However this post makes me think you did not. Why did you ask me againIn post 556, Hectic wrote:Hey, Jaiden, mind asking Spy about that thing?IFI was ignoring the question?- IMASPY
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Have no fear. If you are town I'll get there or die trying. But until then no soup for you.In post 561, Hectic wrote:Because I want to hear the reason, my friend. Btw, is that Aang?- IMASPY
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I'm definitely not caught up on today's post but the first one I seen was dp saying theybv havent misrepresented luca.In post 406, Detective Pikachu wrote:Pikachu: "Why is Luca posting everywhere on site except here? Why doesn't he care about this game?"
Luca: "WHY ARE YOU SCUMREADING ME FOR NOT ANSWERING RQS QUESTIONS????????"
Pikachu: "Actually I just don't really see you interacting here, but if you've been busy then I'm curious about your solve."
Luca: "YOU'RE MISREPPING ME! YOU SHOULD TOWNREAD ME FOR NOT GIVING A SHIT ABOUT THIS GAME!!!!"
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If you're town you're never endgame material for me at this point so what's the difference
The post I quoted jumped into my mind when i seen that.
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Well when I was posting that plan my top 3 scum reads were you DP and hectic. I figured we lynch you, and if you ended up being town I would die in the night and people could maybe see that DP and hectic are scum team. I didnt want to declare that for hectic and dp to see because then they could easily just not kill me to throw that off.In post 658, Natsu wrote:I really don't like this "I have a plan, just go along with this guys" thing. I'm guessing it involves lynching me and then Pikachu. No idea what he's on about with "what happens tonight."
Can you explain your scum reads on both me and Pikachu?
I am less sure you are scum now. I have liked the last couple post you have made. Especially since you brought up reasons I am a also reading DP as scummy. This could be you protecting yourself, but I am not sure about that yet.
I was seeing hectic kinda protect you throughout the thread, while you were also town reading him. I percieved y'alls post as teaming. It's rare I see two scum just straight up town read each other so I became less confident about the pair when neither even attempted to turn on each other. Perhaps neither of you were pushed hard enough for the other to forsake their partner.
As of right now I have no solid scum team because DP has kinda become my number 1 scum read. Which is weird because I was seeing DP and Lucas arguement as TvT. I am kinda confused now.
My scum list hasnt changed much. I now have Luca as my top town read. I admit round 1 has been playing scummy but I dont really see it as scummy play that benefits scum if that makes any sense. No attempts to convince anyone that anyone is scum. No attempts at town clearing anyone. I still see them as town.- IMASPY
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72offsuit and dkkoba are both kinda0 unknown to me atm.
I am leaning town on both, alittle less on 72offsuit, but that's probably due to them not trusting me for some reason. I felt I have done enough already to make myself known as town by the group. I was ready to hammer someone and take the death night 1 from a hectic/dp scum team.- IMASPY
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I can understand the hectic/dp/natsu groups distrust of me because I have put them all as my scum read.
I suppose because I had a null read on 72offsuit they could see me as ignoring their slot out of fear or something. But the truth is their post arent very AI as of yet to me.
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Actually I just said I am less sure about the hectic and natsu being a scum team because of their constant town reading of each other. So no that's not my opinion.In post 671, Detective Pikachu wrote:Waitwaitwait I get it, you scumread me + hectic because we were the only people being pleasant to each other and you scumread anything other than outright hostility?- IMASPY
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In post 683, IMASPY wrote:I dont think ill be spending much time posting today. DP is controlling too much of the conversation in ways that i dont like. Yall can lynch me today if you want. I wont be explaining anything more today. I wont be moving off DP.
This is what you do. You take a post in which did not have a quote to any post, and contribute 1 post you made recently to the entire reasoning behind me saying something.In post 685, Detective Pikachu wrote:How is asking what you like about the readslist you just said you liked controlling too much of the conversation?
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