Titus v. Alisae (endgame)

[Espeonage]

This thread is now about superheroes.

[Espeonage]

Vote: Bitmap

FOR JUSTICE!

and not posting about a superhero. My mum is a normal human.

[Espeonage]

Alisae smells worse than Venom.

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Alisae smells using their nose

Alisae sympathiser.

[Espeonage]

I think someone needs to replace out to make room for the worst's cat.

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I'm at work, I can't watch videos.

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Alisae smells using their nose

Alisae sympathiser.

of course

I wouldn’t be bold enough to do this as scum right

[Espeonage]

On one hand I'm offended Ali didn't want me and on the other hand I am relieved.

Like when someone doesn't sit next to you on the bus.

[Espeonage]

But I like Alisae and have never smelled them. Scum!Alisae though, that beezy probably smells heinous.

Also we are ascetic, love you all, and are here to remind you that if you have

NU and you do not claim that shit immediately

we will ensure you are lynched when that shit comes out.

-Cerb

fuck dude all the pedits.

This is incorrect.

[Espeonage]

ascetic scum claim tbh

I have reason to believe this might be the case.

[Espeonage]

Actually

Vote: Reasonably Rational

I think this would make a good early flash wagon.

[Espeonage]

Mods, can I target Alisae with a night action?

[Espeonage]

@Mods, are there any potential hidden parts of Titus and Alisae's roles

@Titus, I want protection n1 if you can make it happen. I believe I have a unique position to game solve with you. I got one of my favourite roles.

[Espeonage]

Dude I can tell right now worst is itching to see what happens with my slot. I am actually really excited for this game and I think a quick day 1 is net positive for town.

[Espeonage]

Esp, can u carry me this game?

Yeah lets lynch something before page 10
VOTE: Reasonably Rational

Q1. Yes

Q2. This smells of weak obfuscation. Ali you are better than this.

[Espeonage]

no ur not

Alisae wouldn’t call me out like this if I were eir scumbuddy

I should be considered conftown from this point forward

Conftown, yuck. I hate that word.

But... but...

[Espeonage]

I don't think I have ever incorrectly read you Titus.

I think you're town here.

[Espeonage]

Actually fast day 1 is fine when you have someone actively trying to fuck with everyone and when I need one night to start running the game.

[Espeonage]

titus, how would you play this setup as scum?

not the treestump, just a normal scum player

like I mean with nightkills, PR hunting, etc

This is dangerous when Ali is gonna be taking notes.

[Espeonage]

I am too keen for day 2 which is gonna make today torture.

[Espeonage]

dw Titus, I'm gonna carry us. I promise.

[Espeonage]

Carry me as well.

Jury's out.

[Espeonage]

I gut then find out why later.

[Espeonage]

I have good news everyone. Ali is already playing sub optimally which is actually brilliant news honestly.

[Espeonage]

wow this game is so content rich
probably solvable by now

If this is meant to be sarcastic I can know not to trust you with reading comprehension.

[Espeonage]

what's your page 8 solve?
i won't judge

Ali is scum.

All other reads are behind a pay gate of day 2.

[Espeonage]

Fun fact if I was Ali I would have picked Spif, FL, Ank, and Hectic.

[Espeonage]

Ok kids, we've had enough fun. Time to move on. Ali is getting too much sway in the thread. Lets get back to lynching whoever I was voting.

[Espeonage]

haha sniped

[Espeonage]

we might even be looking at Raichu soon enough

the pikachu line is not allowed to evolve in adventures

it's like plot armor, but it's a plot evolite

Everstone. Eviolite raises defences of NFEs

[Espeonage]

im on the wagon already don't @ me i cry when people @ me

Have you seen my signature?

[Espeonage]

So today in fun things I've ascertained about the game. Ali isn't wifom'ing but is actually bluffing in the singular and we should in fact push this Lynch through and Ali actually wants more time to fuck with everyone, so Choo Choo my friends.

[Espeonage]

Your waifu is Ichigo from Darling In the franx
Quite frankly, your opinion is irrelevant

I can't talk about ongoing games but you might end up being wrong. My real waifu is too obscure for most people to know.

[Espeonage]

yeah?
how'd you ascertain that?

I could go in to details but it would let Ali know and I don't want to do that yet. I would like to be proven right and provide my reasoning afterwards.

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Fuck I wish I was a mason.

[Espeonage]

fair enough
you probably shouldn't have mentioned anything in that case

Nah this is fine. If I get under Ali's skin then we can win. I get under Ali's skin by being right and not showing my working. I feel like I am respected enough that my statements like this hold weight.

[Espeonage]

See the thing is that Ali runs a distinct risk of slipping things. Everything Ali posts is information, it's just untrustworthy, but it's still information.

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Mods: How was drafting done on your end. Like was there an element of "secure Titus' picks" or was it done on a "In draft we want to set up town to win" or was it something else like "fuck with Ali"?

[Espeonage]

This is my wheel decide game.
Everything will be decided by Wheel Decide.Com

This includes the following:
Engagements
Voting
Reads (I’ll try and make them look as legit AF)

I swear to fucking god, do not make me replace out of the game I have been most excited for in a long time.

Like you already joined about four games I wanted to join that I avoided bc you signed up for them. Do not fuck with this one please.

[Espeonage]

Mods am I able to replace out of a game and then rejoin my old slot later?

[Espeonage]

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=79321

It can be added to the ruleset. Still feel it's worth asking bc fuck this game right off if this kind of bullshit is going to fly.

[Espeonage]

non-ascetic

[Espeonage]

Just throwing it out there. Maybe Pine doesn't have to die.

[Espeonage]

Just throwing it out there. Maybe Pine doesn't have to die.

+scumpoints

Yes I do

Wait until I claim.

You are currently actively fucking with my ability to carry this game. Which I get but am also super unhappy about.

[Espeonage]

Espe is a pretty strong candidate for Alisae's deepwolf, now that I think about it

I was surprised I wasn't drafted by Ali, ngl.

[Espeonage]

M&K and Pine are gonna wish they had both shut up when I inevitably flip n2.

[Espeonage]

OK KIDS. SERIOUS TIME. I ENCOURAGE PINE TO STOP TRYING TO SOLVE THE GAME BECAUSE I AM GOING TO AND NEED ONE NIGHT PHASE AFTER THAT CONTINUE THIS AND DETERMINE THE WEIGHTING REQUIRED TO DETERMINE IF PINE HAS TO DIE YADA YADA

Thanks

[Espeonage]

There is a world where it is in my best interested for pine to die today but it depends how good I am at picking targets tonight.

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I would go so far as to say I would be very surprised if I am not the strongest town PR in the game INCLUDING if a mason has a PR.

[Espeonage]

Real talk, I pushed because it was the quickest wagon I could get through and the sooner we get to day 2 the sooner I can carry the fuck out of this game.

Upon thinking more I am happy to just kill pine today because it may help me.

[Espeonage]

Oh shit suikoden.

[Espeonage]

I worried about the relative lack of content from a few slots that have been active.

[Espeonage]

I worried about the relative lack of content from a few slots that have been active.

Which ones?

Hectic is the biggest offender.

S and W as well.

[Espeonage]

unvote

[Espeonage]

Hey Bitmap, do you want to be in a voting bloc with me? I want to invite pine and Tse in to it.

[Espeonage]

Hey Titus, I am just curious, mostly bc I wasn't picked by either of you. But I have no idea if you rate me a player as either scum or town? I have a theory on why you both avoided me but I won't go in to it. I am just super curious.

[Espeonage]

I tell you who to vote and you vote there. You can talk about other people and try to convince me to move our votes elsewhere, but we all vote together. Maybe Pine also gets vote moving powers.

[Espeonage]

Are you RC level of scum hunting?

I have my moments. I can be as much of a massive egotistical dick as him if I want to be. Which is a shame bc I had to start adopting being a dickhead thanks to RC and Boon making that the strongest strategy.

I rate myself that highly. I'm definitely not as well respected though.

[Espeonage]

I tell you who to vote and you vote there. You can talk about other people and try to convince me to move our votes elsewhere, but we all vote together. Maybe Pine also gets vote moving powers.

Your name isn’t Wheel Decide.

Mate, I am trying to work with you here. If you want to cop out at least do it productively. This is me proposing an exercise where the game collectively can sort bitmap and myself while also helping you not be anti town.

[Espeonage]

What shits me most is I do not see a world where Ali picks known VI lynchbait.

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Hey bitmap, what part of he's fucking rolling his actions doesn't compute

[Espeonage]

No, he is literally that fucked.

[Espeonage]

Could be literally being coached through every post. Which tbh I would believe Ali would set up. So you know what.

Vote: TSE

[Espeonage]

Could be literally being coached through every post. Which tbh I would believe Ali would set up. So you know what.

Vote: TSE

Are you saying that TSE is being coached? Because his posting says otherwise

You saying that you really believe that Ali wouldn't pick a shitposter then coach a shitposter on how to most effectively shitpost?

Because I 100% believe Ali is capable of that.

[Espeonage]

But your town though.

Oh shit is this a slip.

[Espeonage]

But Ali and wheels have a lot in common.

For example both were invented by Stone Age idiots experiencing basic physics in real time.

[Espeonage]

uh ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooh

What? I called you an ancient demigod.

[Espeonage]

Nom me for a scummy bich

[Espeonage]

Yeah well I have the power of GOD and ANIME on my side.

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[Espeonage]

NU is Negative Utility

[Espeonage]

Can someone Tl;dr the game for me.

There's a bunch of ascetics. Multiple soft claims. TSE is either mafia being coaching in to being the absolute worst shitposter ever, or is town and the worst shitposter ever. So that's the lynch rn.

The will to continue leads me to lean scum when he has stated he's not going to be an idiot any more in completed games.

[Espeonage]

Hello everybody. Does anybody have an idea of where to start to get reads in this game?

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Uhhhhh, mostly mechanics discussion. Depends on if you think you can read that or not.

Not a heap of hunting. There's a bit of a 1v1 between the hydras but it's not much atm.

[Espeonage]

VC 1.1

OkaPoka(2) - Ankamius, Hectic
Flavor Leaf(2) - TrueSoulEnergy, Espeonage
Reasonably Rational(1) - Amrun
Sherlock and Watson(1) - Spiffeh
Bitmap(1) - Sherlock and Watson
Pine(1) - Maki and Kaito
TrueSoulEnergy(1) - Pine
gobbledygook(1) - OkaPoka


Not voting (7)- Flavor Leaf, Frozen Angel, Chemist1422, AaronFrost, gobbledygook, Reasonably Rational, Bitmap

With 17 alive it takes 9 to lynch.


Titus endorses:
Alisae endorses: Reasonably Rational

Deadline is in (expired on 2020-02-17 09:30:00)

Mod notes: Thank you for all confirming so fast!

I voted TSE not with him.

[Espeonage]

Talking about who Ali would/wouldn’t draft is not going to hold water in this game as a defense or attack. Using it as one early is awful.

Talk to me on this, haven’t played with Espe that I remember. Is Espe a good scum player?

Que pasa?

I asked if Espe is a good scum player for my own sake on how to read a slot given it's one of the players I don't think I've played with. Not because 'Oh ali would draft a good scum player' using that logic I'd be drafted first. It's one of those things so you can get a better understanding of someones range.

Yeah but I'd like you to put meta aside and just read bitmap's posts when you can, maki. I think I'm more interested in your non meta read than dunn's meta read atm

-s

Ugh, making me put in work how lame of you. I think Bitmap is being annoyingly scummy with the overreaction of 'STOP TALKING ABOUT MASON POSTSSS' saying it once is enough, saying it more than that seems like acting. Plus, I don't have hard regard for Bitmap so maybe I'm fine scumreading that easier than I would be someone like You/Ank/Spiffy. Why do you care more about my read on Bit than Kaito? (You can call us w/e between the 2 but I do pref you call us by the Hydra for the sake of clarity.)

My town range and scum range is a circle. The size of the circle is up for debate.

[Espeonage]

Vote: TSE

I am pretty certain I never voted for FL.

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I also don’t think Alisae thinks high enough of their own scum game to warrant them not picking one of the players I put in the 4.

The fact Ankamius pushes the idea that none of those 4 could be picked is extremely interesting to me.

Does Alisae have access to the Mafia PT and can talk in it?
In that scenario, If I had picked with this player list, I think I would go...

One of Krazy hydra/Ankamius, but exactly one of them.
AaronFrost
Hectic
One of Gobbledygook/RR

I’m too lazy to check if it’s 4 or 5 scum, but I think this is a 21 player?

wow such townslip, very unintention, many townpoint, wow.

[Espeonage]

Boon, I forgot how much I hated you. Thanks for reminding me.

I don't know if you thinking your vocal mech analysis (Which is super contradictory to my own) is actually good is town indicative and you're just an idiot which would check out, or if it's you trying to steer the game away from actual analysis.

I am leaning towards the latter bc you have been soft defending slots I think have high scum equity.

That said, I'd like you to trust me bc that would make my entire life easier so I am going to try really hard to set aside emotions. For that to work, I'm gonna need you to accept you may be wrong at time and compromise, and it also required you to stop defending yourself without any pressure on you bc it's scummy af but probbaly not alignment indicative, just super fucking unhelpful.

[Espeonage]

Like the fact that you are such a dick of a player that you would set up "fake townslipping as town so people will just listen to me" fitting your character is super unhelpful. And being mad at you has coloured a lot of my recent reading.

[Espeonage]

You wouldn't call me a qt if I were your buddy.

[Espeonage]

I am so excited. I know who I am gonna target tonight.

[Espeonage]

Note to game, if Ank or FL flips scum FL's voting pattern just got weird ditching top wagon with momentum bc he has hurt feelings.

And Boon, pretty sure I yelled at you multiple times when you and your harem were trying and consistently failing to carry games. I understand why you would want to forget me.

[Espeonage]

Maybe I am terrible at reading comprehension

[Espeonage]

Okay, I'm not posting in the middle of night while freaking out about possible flooding of my apartment any more.

[Espeonage]

Hey, what do you guys think of the MariaR/Dunn hydra?

Happy to be buddied for a day or two so idc if they are scum rn.

[Espeonage]

Okay, I'm not posting in the middle of night while freaking out about possible flooding of my apartment any more.

Glad your apartment is ok.

Yeah it flooded last time we had serious rain. That issue was fine this time, but our balcony doors on both ends of the apartment have some leaks and there's a small amount of water coming through the roof. But our balcony drain in small so if there was a blockage I'd have a flooded lounge room. Everything looks k for the moment. But we can't catch a break, worst bushfires in history in to worst flooding in 20 years. Parts of Sydney had over half a year's worth of rainfall in 48 hours, so yeah I'm a bit freaked in general.

[Espeonage]

For the record Hectic is in my scum pool for posting in a similar style to Ali with far too much trolling and non serious reads.

[Espeonage]

CHESSKID

I miss chesskid.

Urge to PL TSE rising.

Sadly kinda think this is behavior is less likely to be done as scum, unless coached.

Do you have any reason why you think it isn't coached? Because I still feel that there is enough chance that Ali is coaching TSE through this that it's a great Lynch. Lynching TSE now saves wasting a day at some stage to quell the what if.

I think second guessing that Ali wouldn't pick such a visible rogue element is pure wifom. Therefore the argument is moot, so have to take it at face value, and I think town TSE at least tries to work with town. I specifically look poorly on the slap away of the bloc idea.

[Espeonage]

something something monkey Shakespeare

[Espeonage]

hey espeonage

wanna party

what do you have in mind?

Oh shit, btw you are perfectly placed to understand why I am so excited about my role I just realised. You can stick around.

[Espeonage]

Note to game, if Ank or FL flips scum FL's voting pattern just got weird ditching top wagon with momentum bc he has hurt feelings.

And Boon, pretty sure I yelled at you multiple times when you and your harem were trying and consistently failing to carry games. I understand why you would want to forget me.

Which harem?

Those players that used to follow you around like a bad smell that all had a hard time scum reading each other. I'll try and find a game.

[Espeonage]

I don’t have FL blacklisted so no lol

Rookie error

[Espeonage]

ngl, Oka seems p town to me from the whole exchange.

[Espeonage]

Well, I get hard BoP’d because of my record as scum over the past 6 years, so scum always feel like they can play the FL is scum card because of it

Buddy, not gonna rate you. This player list is full of great players, you aren't as hot shit here. No one has BoP'd you here. And all I have seen from you is worrying logic in mech analysis, and defending yourself under next to no pressure.

Sit down and shut up.

[Espeonage]

Mate, I haven't even voted you.

I have frankly more worrying shit and better players to deal with in the thread first. Stop defending and just play the fucking game.

[Espeonage]

But I’m always gonna reply to the people who come at me

Then why are you coming at me for calling someone town?

[Espeonage]

Ok.

I am currently most interested in lynching TSE as I feel this has reached a point of stubbornness that people are just purely discounting because of wifom related reasons.

I fully believe that coaching a shitposter is within Ali's scum range which I think is enough to move it from policy to positive scum equity. So I see a TSE Lynch as a win/win.

[Espeonage]

Internal Jury is out. Everything is soft reads. I have reservations about the Maria hydra but nothing major. S&W and Hectic are both on my list of likelies, but I doubt they are scum together. I am flip flopping between my read on FL a lot. It comes down to how horny he really is for his own self importance that he would actually ignore the basics of the game, which I think is in his personality range.

I don't really have an Ank read. My approach at the moment is to swing a whole bunch of weight around in later days to brute force reads day by day.

Actually Titus, idk if you remember the game, but I think you should re-read the game we played where the SK was stupid OP and I would have single handedly won the game for town if not for them being effectively night immune. That will explain the entirety of my play this game and be insurance for me if it takes me a while to get an action through.

[Espeonage]

I am hard claiming to you specifically bc I think I want to take a different approach to what I was going to do originally and I need days.

[Espeonage]

Not Borderlands. Multiple years ago. You were scum.

If I give you game here I claim to everyone which is bad. Was the game I realised I could peg you super reliably as scum.

I basically asked for the role I got in the pick phase.

[Espeonage]

Yeah sorry, don't really want to make it easy.

[Espeonage]

np

[Espeonage]

Hey Titus: A thought occurs and I can't really do it because I mostly play at work. Might be an idea to separate the thread in to page ranges where certain discussions have happened. Like FL v Oka/Esp is X page to Y page. Just with such a high page count, and you have a range of PTs to keep records in.

[Espeonage]

If we are gonna snap wagon can we please just make it TSE?

[Espeonage]

Explain to me, please, why TSE as town; decides to purposefully engage with Ali repeatedly, doesn't listen to Titus, refuses to work with town, rejects options presented logically to mitigate his play style and give him an out that is helpful to town, and lastly, why does he even begin the game with randomness in a game where the entire scum premise is obfuscation and building artificial density in the thread.

[Espeonage]

Honestly, I just want an easy lynch, protection and to move on to day 2.

[Espeonage]

Does that mean you're gonna vote yourself?

[Espeonage]

Because it fits the aim of scum early in this game to make the game a fkn drag.

[Espeonage]

Bitmap, join me on TSE. Scum equity is dece.

[Espeonage]

If we are going to wagon. Anyone down to bring Pine close to Lynch and see what happens?

[Espeonage]

Vote: Pine

[Espeonage]

I would bet money FL isn't a vig.

[Espeonage]

you're all completely worthless

i know you're joking around but this was like the last thing i needed to hear rn

Hey Chemist, I reckon you've been great. You listened and agreed with me on TSE.

Can you vote Pine so we can see if he squirms when we call him on his I'm happy to die claim.

[Espeonage]

Also, before it matters, I am

not

solely an Enabler. I have a power role that is paired very nicely with that feature. I don't want to specify, but it gives me some power to detect lies on this account. I should probably be lynched day 3 or 4. Early enough so LYLO isn't a worry, late enough that I can use it a few times and give scum a chance to panic-waste their kill on me.

Hey Espe

How does this change the perspective of your push on Pine

Still want to test him. I think he explained it was a mechanic to check ascetic claims.

[Espeonage]

Can we have less pyramids please.

[Espeonage]

I'm at that point of the game where people are referring to cases that I didn't know existed despite reading the thread. Which is usually a sign that people are treating dumb shit as indicative.

[Espeonage]

I don't see why that's a thought process that would be weird for him

because Dunn is one of the players MOST capable of discriminating between town shitposts and scum agendas?

Like BoP here makes him scum most of the time

-S

And you are scum reading someone based on this fallacy BEFORE you can check anything. What if all the scum are shitposters? What if none of them are?

I was right, not a case just dumb shit.

[Espeonage]

P sure I explained that I have issues with the fact that Maria might be trying to pocket people but overall I think they are fine and positive for the game. Unlike another hydra in this thread.

[Espeonage]

And I sag if you ask me for a read on one head and not another I will lose all faith in you actually caring about trying to solve slots.

Unless you think hydras get to role pms.

[Espeonage]

And I sag if you ask me for a read on one head and not another I will lose all faith in you actually caring about trying to solve slots.

Unless you think hydras get to role pms.

I mean, do you think Maria has posted enough content for her to be readable? It's mostly Dunn's slot imo?

-S

I think I don't have a scum read on the slot. Which is enough given this is uninformed majority v informed minority

[Espeonage]

P sure I explained that I have issues with the fact that Maria might be trying to pocket people but overall I think they are fine and positive for the game. Unlike another hydra in this thread.

Wow fiesty

Like if you want to insult me just do so, don't beat around the bush :3

-S

I wasn't aware scum reading people for posting without contributing for half a day phase was insulting.

[Espeonage]

I think I don't have a scum read on the slot. Which is enough given this is uninformed majority v informed minority

How many games have you played with Dunn?

-S

I can think of multiple times but idk.

This line is not going to sway me though. I am regularly outspoken that meta is unreliable at best and against the core rules of how to play the game at worst.

[Espeonage]

Plus maybe if i help espeonage lynch tse he'll help me lynch flavor in the future

Likely

Vote: TSE

[Espeonage]

I wasn't aware scum reading people for posting without contributing for half a day phase was insulting.

Since when is "positive for the game" a comment on alignment?

-S

It isn't

[Espeonage]

Okay well you seem conflicted, Esp. What posts leave you uncertain on his alignment?

-S

????????
all of them?

[Espeonage]

I wasn't aware scum reading people for posting without contributing for half a day phase was insulting.

Since when is "positive for the game" a comment on alignment?

-S

It isn't

Okay then why are you acting like you didn't just insult me?

-S

Because I didn't?

PEDIT: P much. But that's how I read the game. I tend to be a bigger picture player. If I see something particularly indicative I'll single it out, but that is less common.

[Espeonage]

I read a lot on tone and mentality v words.

That's not an individual post thing.

[Espeonage]

Well considering I was scum reading you for being unhelpful to the thread for a long period of time, fairly sure it means I think you're scum.

[Espeonage]

Well considering I was scum reading you for being unhelpful to the thread for a long period of time, fairly sure it means I think you're scum.

I wasn't aware scum reading people for posting without contributing for half a day phase was insulting.

Since when is "positive for the game" a comment on alignment?

-S

It isn't

Then why did you say this? Get confused by negatives?

-S

Being helpful isn't alignment indicative.
Being unhelpful however is indicative.

[Espeonage]

Well I've just reiterated that positive for the game isn't alignment indicative. I'm not the one that assumed because one action is scummy the opposite action is townie.

[Espeonage]

I did not realise that was what was giving you confusion until 2158. Like I don't understand in what world the opposite of a scum move is a town move. There's null in the middle. You even asked me about how much I was seeing as null.

This is an insult: Learn your mafia fundamentals.

[Espeonage]

I may absolute detest meta, but I feel the need to reiterate that the opposite of not town is NULL not scum. So if you have someone who has done a thing a lot as town and isn't doing it, that means it is NULL not scum.

BoP is a well known logical fallacy.

If you want to push the slot, focus on the fence-sitty stuff. That's at least got some amount of substance.

[Espeonage]

Like by what measure do you NOT scumread him? He's literally the scummiest player in the game regardless of what he actually flips. Obviously I have concerns with merely being "off meta" but he seems scummy for the way he's passively pushing me and attacking my townblock without actually getting in the shit with the rest of the game?

-S

Have you met TSE?

[Espeonage]

You gotta break a few eggs to make an omelette.

[Espeonage]

Oka, you are doing good work. Patience. Lets see this wagon out.

[Espeonage]

I would have made unvoting illegal.

[Espeonage]

Does anyone have the full ascetic / not ascetic list.

I need to use my NIHGT ACTOIN!

[Espeonage]

OH FUCK!

Ali you fucking evil piece of actual shit.

Guys I think Pine is mafia.

[Espeonage]

Does anyone have the full ascetic / not ascetic list.

I need to use my NIHGT ACTOIN!

shut up your vanilla townie

OMG I'M RIGHT AREN'T I!

Did I just solve the game.

[Espeonage]

Hmmm Pine may have been put in to fix Ali being a fucking dick.

[Espeonage]

Guys I think the rule is all power roles must be ascetic.

[Espeonage]

So now Ali has a list of all the power roles in the game. And we can't protect any of them.

[Espeonage]

TSE was excited about the mafia role pm not a pr.

[Espeonage]

GUYS I SOLVED THE GAME!

[Espeonage]

You slipped.

[Espeonage]

Does anyone have the full ascetic / not ascetic list.

I need to use my NIHGT ACTOIN!

shut up your vanilla townie

[Espeonage]

Vote: Pine

Either this is scum OR fixes this fucked up game state.

[Espeonage]

She wouldn't, sorry I didn't mention. I've decided Pine is town but needs to die.

[Espeonage]

Oka was talking about the fact that Ali also got to pick all the scum roles.

[Espeonage]

Titus I solved the game. Do you agree Pine should die?

[Espeonage]

why everyone bully me?

Bitmap, I solved the game. Vote Pine with me.

[Espeonage]

This is worse than when RC yelled at me because I confused ninja with strongman and didn't know strongman bypasses bodyguard.

But what did you confuse fence sitting for...? I’m not even sure there’s a buzzword for what you’re accusing me of

If Ali packs scum with power, the mods pack town with just as much. So Ali has been clever and secured a way to find out all the PRs on day 1 like a huge but clever dickhead.

no offence, I'm honestly impressed. It's very clever.

[Espeonage]

wait that's the wrong quote

[Espeonage]

So Ali can say "Scum #1 is informed about every TPR in the game"?

Like I don't see how you balance around that if there's no limitations?

-S

I can also give my scumteam powers like they're that one kid who was like "yeah, I wanna be that superhero with all of the super powers"
that doesn't mean I'm going to do that

[Espeonage]

Vote: TSE

Back to this I guess then.

[Espeonage]

I have a thing:

Do you guys think Alisae would have pretend voted someone on their team by now?

I do.

Let’s lynch within those people.

I think this is dumb to read in to.

[Espeonage]

Vote: TSE

Back to this I guess then.

Do you agree with my theory or does it conflict with your solve? What is your solve?

?

[Espeonage]

This is worse than when RC yelled at me because I confused ninja with strongman and didn't know strongman bypasses bodyguard.

But what did you confuse fence sitting for...? I’m not even sure there’s a buzzword for what you’re accusing me of

If Ali packs scum with power, the mods pack town with just as much. So Ali has been clever and secured a way to find out all the PRs on day 1 like a huge but clever dickhead.

no offence, I'm honestly impressed. It's very clever.

The mods would veto all PRs are ascetic or the enabler. This would leave us with like 3 PRs.

Is this based on anything or speculation. bc I disagree if it is speculation.

[Espeonage]

What do you do if the VI is also the vig?

[Espeonage]

oh you meant vote.

[Espeonage]

Still unsure Titus.

Pine has softed positive utility while alive with regards to ascetics. So that's a thing.

Neighbourizer makes a lot of sense in a ascetic game.

I'm not sure it's that nuts honestly.

[Espeonage]

I gtg, and probs won't be back in any large capacity until tomorrow. Might pop in on my phone.

[Espeonage]

I think your counts aren't equating that people will lie about their roles.

Boon comes to mind as someone that does it a lot. And I think it is in a lot of the list's range that they would lie about their roles as town.

[Espeonage]

Gonna take a risk here bc I feel like I have done enough work to potentially be a target anyway.

I'm also Ascetic and a PR.

[Espeonage]

Entirely possible it's a no protective setup.

[Espeonage]

non-ascetic

I would go so far as to say I would be very surprised if I am not the strongest town PR in the game INCLUDING if a mason has a PR.

Guys I think the rule is all power roles must be ascetic.

So now Ali has a list of all the power roles in the game. And we can't protect any of them.

---

Ya

[Espeonage]

I thought FL was main which is why I was calling him an idiot but refusing top vote there. So I believe it.

[Espeonage]

Mason*

[Espeonage]

Omgus is still stupid even from a mason.

[Espeonage]

i think Espeonage is town based on the "elitell"
i was playing a micro with him while this game was running in which he was extremely inactive (as scum)
and his posts were a lot less fiery there

I would have dumped that game for this one regardless of alignment here. Just fyi. Not gonna shit in the hand gifting the horse's mouth, but I 100% focus on this game over that one.

I only joined that game to have a game I could join that didn't have boon or Tse in it. But I was not going to miss this game for anything.

[Espeonage]

Vote: S and W

[Espeonage]

whats really weird is if flavor and i are tvt

why the fuck did everyone just basically ignore it and go to sherlock v kaito

bc FL was scum but not mafia.

[Espeonage]

Nah son, I shut it down.

[Espeonage]

We can always go back to lynching TSE

[Espeonage]

Vote: Amrun

[Espeonage]

Id like the ascetic list if anyone has it handy

[Espeonage]

Probably bc I have like four modifiers in my role that made my asceticism not neg utility.

[Espeonage]

The worst one

[Espeonage]

Btw Gobble's refusing to claim ascetic or not until you explain it.

I've explained it as much as I'm going to.

FL's endorsement also makes me excited about this wagon.

Big fat Ew from me.

[Espeonage]

0_0

[Espeonage]

Guys my boss is only on lunch break for so long people. Chop Chop.

[Espeonage]

However someone really needs to post the ascetic list.

[Espeonage]

Wait who did Oka used to be?

[Espeonage]

Hectic is on the no Lynch list afaik

[Espeonage]

There's a soft mason claim.

[Espeonage]

Titus care to catch me up on stuff I missed while you're here so I don't have to listen to FL or Ali

HI MARIO KARTO:

Today in things that happened recently.

OKA and BOON LEAF also known as BEEF started a BEEF. It ended with BEEF claiming mason and getting yelled at by JESUS in the mason PT.

Then there were three were three wagons all on even votes: MARIO KARTO, SUPERWHOLOCK, and AMEN. I think they're all shit wagons but think AMEN has the highest scum equity given it's close to neutral.

I also solved the game but also probably not, you're welcome.

Moral of the story.

AMEN

[Espeonage]

Gobby

Just fyi, probs don't use this. The worst is probably laughing bc this is the most common term for a blowjob in Australia.

[Espeonage]

imagine reading my posts and getting angry from them

Imagine reading mine and thinking I was fake claiming all game.

[Espeonage]

I'd vote Bitmap.

[Espeonage]

Hey Oka, wat was your old main?

[Espeonage]

People I'd lynch: AMEN / SPLIFF / BEETMEEP / OAK P / HECCERS

But I'd hammer anyone.

I do agree with Spiff that scum reads are hard to find atm which is why my null pile is my Lynch pile.

[Espeonage]

My issue with this portion of day 1 is that we had three wagons that didn't shake momentum off one another.

It was basically the thinks Mario kart is the scum in the argument, the thinks it's superwholock, and those that think it's tvt.

So there's jack shit to be gained from looking at any of the wagons.

@MAZZA: I think examining your wagon won't net a lot seeing as there is a strong push to end the day with something and the momentum swing was pretty meh. Like Heccers is the tipping point I think so I guess you can look there but other than that I think day 1 wagons have very very little juice to be gained until there have been flips.

[Espeonage]

Just got Kaito's consent to claim:

We're a JOAT.

No, I won't be claiming our shots yet.

Vote: Mario Kart

Won't be moving.

[Espeonage]

Omg Espy why would you willing to lynch me? I am insulted.

Man I've read like none of your posts. That is obviously your fault and a lynchable offence.

[Espeonage]

But my posts are trendy and fun

Well you ended up actually voting scum so that's something.

[Espeonage]

Oka vote Mario Kart immediately.

[Espeonage]

Ok yeah defs hammer. Sooner the better.

[Espeonage]

I do not think I can think of a thing you could have claimed that would have sounded scummier given everything we know about the setup.

[Espeonage]

ty

[Espeonage]

I do not think I can think of a thing you could have claimed that would have sounded scummier given everything we know about the setup.

Literally what the fuck are you on about?

I'll explain later in the game, possibly post game. Especially if you flip scum. I'll want to brag.