Titus v. Alisae (endgame)

[Spiffeh]

hi everyone let’s lynch all the scum!!!!

[Spiffeh]

VOTE: Amrun

[Spiffeh]

Hi Titus I am glad to know that you are town

I am also town in case you were wondering!

[Spiffeh]

no ur not

Alisae wouldn’t call me out like this if I were eir scumbuddy

I should be considered conftown from this point forward

[Spiffeh]

Aw I’m so honored that the namesakes of this game are clamoring to interact with me

[Spiffeh]

It's nice to see all of the scum jump at the opportunity to endear themselves to Titus!

[Spiffeh]

^ see

[Spiffeh]

Good mason theatre guys

It really provides us real mason(s) with some good cover

[Spiffeh]

Espe please don't I wanna play with you!

[Spiffeh]

Ok everyone page 15 is the cutoff for acknowledging Alisae in this game

E's already derailed the thread and artificially inflated the page count enough so let's stop humoring em!

TIA

[Spiffeh]

I would have claimed ascetic in my first post if I were ascetic

Therefore, I am not

Pine I am excited for you to try hard

Tell me who the scum are

[Spiffeh]

VOTE: Sherlock and Watson

[Spiffeh]

Wait MariaR is in this game?

[Spiffeh]

I would like more votes on Sherlock and Watson

Idk how many there are currently but I still want more

[Spiffeh]

@Ank, Can you tell me what you think of Sherlock and Watson? Your gut read players seem to be leaning that way.

As you can see our lord and savior Titus is also leaning this way if you read between the lines, in case that incentivizes any of you!

[Spiffeh]

Very good Bitmap

You can be our honorary mason

[Spiffeh]

I would like more votes on Sherlock and Watson

Idk how many there are currently but I still want more

Ok I know this comes directly after a vote count now but that vote count was NOT there when I posted this

I have been SWINDLED

[Spiffeh]

mason/drafting masons talk

[Spiffeh]

@Spiffeh, Welcome back. What was up with that Lord and Savior comment? That irked me. It's day one, which means I am weaker. Plus no one is that good.

Titus I am just leveraging your confirmed town status to further my agenda just let it happen

Hi RR I saw you said words to me I’ll get to them soon

[Spiffeh]

Anything important happen in these last 18 pages, because that'll effect how closely I read it.

We have 3+ ascetics. So, at least skim.

Claim whether you're ascetic as well please.

K so going back to this, I trust Pine's claim which, if true, likely means one of the other two ascetic claims is scum.

Uh, he's not claiming ascetic though, and this is worded like you believe he is claiming ascetic - he's claiming ascetic enabler. If you're not paying close attention to his claim, how can you say you believe it?

I know what he claimed. My wording was off, as it usually is, but basically my thought was that if he's a town ascetic enabler, then one of Amrun/RR (the ascetic claims) is likely scum.

I should probably put my vote somewhere huh

VOTE: RR

Walk me through why you think Pine being ascetic enabler leads you to believe that one of the ascetic claims is scum.

[Spiffeh]

Maria now that I know your hydra was you and Dunnstral is it ok if I don’t trust you as much as before?

[Spiffeh]

Uhhhhhhhh idr off the top of my head it’s been awhile, probably between 5-10?

But most of which took place like 2-3 years

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ago

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Who is Boon?

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See - you listed them both as scum without explanation, but in order for this to be pocketing they can't both be scum, and you seem to primarily be scumreading bitmap, but you're simultaneously pushing flavor leaf and using this as reasoning, which leaves me wondering where your head is really at.

This is a very poor reason to be suspicious of them.

[Spiffeh]

I don't think this sentiment is appropriate here, actually. I don't get why you trust us less based on what we've posted

Initially I was just ignoring your slot because your content seemed passable enough for players I had no experience with.

But I know Maria is a p. good scum player so "passable" isn't enough to just write you off.

Either way I didn't have strong feelings about you earlier, and nothing's really changed!

[Spiffeh]

Hi Ank I saw earlier you were having trouble gathering reads. Is that still the case?

[Spiffeh]

Why Reasonably Rational?

[Spiffeh]

VOTE: Reasonably Rational

[Spiffeh]

I read the last 10 pages and feel I have accomplished nothing

[Spiffeh]

Making my way up that readslist

Hard work really does pay off

[Spiffeh]

Anyone want to vote Ankamius with me?

[Spiffeh]

I would also vote for Amrun

[Spiffeh]

I don’t think it makes sense for town!Ankamius to have me as her highest town read at this point.

I have a history of reading Ank well in the past (to be fair this was like a few years ago) and her putting me at the top of her readslist makes me anxious that she’s cozying up to me, and her stated reasoning doesn’t really cut it.

VOTE: Ankamius

[Spiffeh]

Didn’t someone say that Amrun lurking means she’s scum?

What is the basis for that?

[Spiffeh]

Didn’t someone say that Amrun lurking means she’s scum?

What is the basis for that?

I’m assuming you aren’t referring to the above post that’s right in front of your eyes.

That is correct it was early in the game

[Spiffeh]

cuz the scum need something to talk about to seem productive

[Spiffeh]

Hi Titus are you town reading me?

I am the one that started the Ankamius wagon after all!

[Spiffeh]

I thought they were scum

That still remains to be seen

[Spiffeh]

I thought they were scum

That still remains to be seen

how come?

just a ~vibe~ I got

[Spiffeh]

Titus, have you gotten what you needed from this wagon yet?

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Why don’t you address the votes and reasons for the wagon rather than try to get Titus to call it off?

Titus’ desire for a wagon has no bearing on why I’m voting for you.

[Spiffeh]

OH AND SPIFFEH
SPIFFEH MY FRIEND
MY OTHER HEAD ASKED YOU A QUESTION AND YOU NOTED THE QUESTION AND FAILED TO RESPOND TO THE QUESTION.

PLZ RESPOND.

(I legitimately have no idea what Drixx asked you, but he complained to me yesterday morning about you not hopping on our wagon without even bothering to answer his question.)

-Cerb

Hi yeah I didn’t respond to Drixx explicitly but I did notice that AF’s conclusion about Pine’s role was flawed and asked him about it.

And he basically said it was his own setup spec which is a pretty poor reason but I didn’t care enough to pursue any further.

[Spiffeh]

Ali tell your scumbuddies to stop addressing you in the thread, it’s not going to trick us or make them look townier.

[Spiffeh]

Can we start a wagon on someone? I am no longer passionate about the Ank one.

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VOTE: Spiffeh

You’re underwhelming for a paragon.

That’s why I’m a ParaGONE

[Spiffeh]

VOTE: Pine

Hooray for wagons!

[Spiffeh]

Most of the early posting wasn't made by maria, so judging my posts by saying maria is a good scum player doesn't really cut it for me

More importantly, as I've pointed out, it makes your read here feel fake - you're not really thinking about it, you're just saying things

I read your (as in, your hydra’s) early posts, thought they were fine.
I realized Maria is in your hydra, and figured I should hold your slot to a higher standard as Maria is well known as a good scum player.
This is the extent of my effort in sorting you. I didn’t go back to see which head posted what, nor did I provide a read on you because I don’t have one.
So I don’t know how you can really call a nonexistent read “fake”, but it looks like you misrepresented this situation pretty hard and are making an unproportional amount of noise about a throwaway post.

[Spiffeh]

scum flavor wouldnt have derped here because scum flavor accounts for time travel

[Spiffeh]

No don’t

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VOTE: Kaito and Maki

[Spiffeh]

Oh

VOTE: Maki and Kaito

[Spiffeh]

If it helps just write me off as town now and in every game we play together.

That should narrow down your PoE pool!

[Spiffeh]

Hmmmm maybe I’ll try-hard soon

[Spiffeh]

PoF:
Leafy
AaronFF
Sherlock
Gobsie
Pine (?)

FoS:
Bitmap
Okapoka
Spiffeh

Hi Hectic, it looks like I joined your FoS list shortly after you asked me a few questions. Can you explain your reasoning behind this?

[Spiffeh]

Spiffeh what's your read on sherlock

After their more recent posts, particularly with their push on Maki and interactions with you, they are a strong townread of mine.

[Spiffeh]

Not really sure what is contradictory about that post regardless of how I’m reading them and it was p. obviously a joke

What are your thoughts on Maki/Kaito?

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^ @Hectic

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Can someone explain why they’re scumreading Sherlock? They are one of my only confident town reads.

Like I don’t get how someone can compare Maiko/Kaito’s ISO w/ Sherlock’s and choose Sherlock as the one more worthy of being lynched.

[Spiffeh]

Titus I’m down for wagons and all but I know you love your VCA and doesn’t forcing people on wagons rather than letting them grow naturally kind of diminish the point of it?

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AF I know you don’t agree with the reasons stated for the Maki/Kaito wagon, but what is your read on them at this point?

[Spiffeh]

The reason I’m cool with Maki/Kaito getting lynched has nothing to do with Dunn’s activity.

I think Dunn has been really nit picky and snipes at anyone really questioning their slot (Espy, Sherlock, myself), and I’m not really seeing him presenting reads or pressuring anyone in a way that looks like genuine gamesolving. There’s a lot of one off comments that aren’t translating to solid opinions and it looks more like busy work than anything else. I have only played with Dunn a few times but I don’t remember it being so hard to understand where his head is at.

[Spiffeh]

So yeah if anyone is townreading M/K slot please convince me.

[Spiffeh]

I’m sad I didn’t really get an explanation for your read on me

[Spiffeh]

The reason I’m cool with Maki/Kaito getting lynched has nothing to do with Dunn’s activity.

I think Dunn has been really nit picky and snipes at anyone really questioning their slot (Espy, Sherlock, myself), and I’m not really seeing him presenting reads or pressuring anyone in a way that looks like genuine gamesolving. There’s a lot of one off comments that aren’t translating to solid opinions and it looks more like busy work than anything else. I have only played with Dunn a few times but I don’t remember it being so hard to understand where his head is at.

Hi Maria this is why I am currently ok w/ lynching you

I'm hoping you're back and can contribute and I can get a better feel for your slot!

[Spiffeh]

The whole angle of him learning who we are and suddenly getting worried about my slot into a vote just doesn't sit well with me considering our history.

What about our history makes my behavior here not sit well with you?

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Maria I'm hoping more than anyone that you or Dunn can drop some hot content that will convince me your town because you're both players I've enjoyed playing with in the past. But rn I'm kinda at a loss for anyone scummier so have no reason to go elsewhere.

Although Hectic was a pretty good vote so maybe you're on the right track!

[Spiffeh]

you're* omg I'm so sorry

[Spiffeh]

Me being more worried about you because it's you was not what translated into a scum read.

I actually even explained to Dunnstral that I still didn't really have much of an opinion on your slot for the longest time. Only after Sherlock's case and doing some ISO'ing have I ended up here.

And even now you're null scum because I don't think you guys have contributed enough to get a confident enough read either way.

[Spiffeh]

If a Hectic wagon takes off I'll happily join that

Oka and Pine probs wouldn't support right now

Bitmap I'd have to ISO because I've mostly been writing him off

[Spiffeh]

Omg Espy why would you willing to lynch me? I am insulted.

[Spiffeh]

But my posts are trendy and fun

[Spiffeh]

Oka that was a pretty transparent reaction test js

[Spiffeh]

Literally everything about the way Maria claimed, as well as the claim itself, and the fake “town” response to a transparent hammer reaction test, make it very clear to me that Maki/Kaito need to be lynched today. I will not accept a lynch elsewhere, even if Titus tries to save them.

[Spiffeh]

I have been avenged

[Spiffeh]

I’m grateful to Titus for picking me as a mason. Gobble and Titus were great partners and a good outlet for all of my feelings I didn’t feel comfortable sharing in the thread.

I tried to be kinda useless in the thread to avoid a NK but clearly that didn’t work...

I joined this game because I thought Ali might draft me as scum, so I’m curious to see why e chose the players e did.

Thanks for modding, I had a lot of fun for the brief time I was alive. Good job Town for keeping the momentum!

[Spiffeh]

Did scum use Discord as their chat? Is so can we have a link to that or is that not a thing? (Never used Discord in my life)

PEdit: Oh

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I wanted to see the scum discord cuz I wanted to know why I was killed n1

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Alisae I love playing as scum lol

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Ali can you link the scum discord?

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Hi Sakura!