Titus v. Alisae (endgame)

[gobbledygook]

But I like Alisae and have never smelled them. Scum!Alisae though, that beezy probably smells heinous.

Also we are ascetic, love you all, and are here to remind you that if you have NU and you do not claim that shit immediately we will ensure you are lynched when that shit comes out.

-Cerb

fuck dude all the pedits.

What is NU?

[gobbledygook]

Can someone Tl;dr the game for me.

[gobbledygook]

VOTE: Pine

[gobbledygook]

Oh that hydra is PP. The gifs make sense now.

I think Pine is scum for this ascetic enabling business.

[gobbledygook]

Is this a MariaR and Dunnstral hydra?

[gobbledygook]

Talking about who Ali would/wouldn’t draft is not going to hold water in this game as a defense or attack. Using it as one early is awful.

Talk to me on this, haven’t played with Espe that I remember. Is Espe a good scum player?

Que pasa?

[gobbledygook]

Who is who in the Sherlock and Watson hydra?

[gobbledygook]

VOTE: Reasonably Rational

I have a pet theory that there is an ascetic scum to pair with me as ascetic town.

Why?

[gobbledygook]

In my mind bitmap should be the day 1 lynch and I wanted to see if you'd reach that conclusion as well before meta was involved

-s

Why?

[gobbledygook]

I think anyone who votes for Pine needs to state whether they're voting because they think it's best to remove him ASAP given the expressed NU, OR if it's because you think he's scum.

-Cerb

What does NU mean?

[gobbledygook]

Titus, I think that Pine wouldn’t have claimed this if he had this role as town.

[gobbledygook]

VOTE: Reasonably Rational

[gobbledygook]

Amrun is town? Do we finally get to be town again Amrun?

[gobbledygook]

Ali why didn’t you recruit me?

[gobbledygook]

Oh nice. I like it when I’m nightkilled

[gobbledygook]

What makes you think any of your scum picks could get me lynched?

[gobbledygook]

I know. I’m really good at it.

[gobbledygook]

Spoiler: Scumteam

AND THIS NAME IS JOHN CENA, DODODODO DODODODO

I hope your drafting skills are better than your meme skills.

[gobbledygook]

gobble leaning town

Why?

[gobbledygook]

Hectic thinks his title of mother clucker makes him look hard, but all it does is make him look insecure.

[gobbledygook]

The best draft Ali could have made is not drafting Hectic Honorary Scum Mother Clucker Hectic.

[gobbledygook]

What does Endorses mean in this game? I don’t see it on the OP.

[gobbledygook]

Gobble, are you ascetic? I like joking around but this needs to be answered.

I will answer this if Pine can explain to me why it’s beneficial to answer this.

[gobbledygook]

I think I can read Oka well.

Not currently townreading him.

[gobbledygook]

Maki and Kaito, let’s get Reasonably Rational!

[gobbledygook]

Bitmap, why aren’t you voting Reasonably Rational?

[gobbledygook]

Ank why is Spiffeh your highest townread?

[gobbledygook]

Yeah lets kill Reasonably Rational!
VOTE: Reasonably Rational

Blood for the blood god!

TY 4 bus

[gobbledygook]

The naked vote by itself indicates less interest in looking town, which is indicative when you're in bussing territory on the wagon! =)

So you think if Spiffeh was scum, he wouldn’t do a naked vote?

[gobbledygook]

I’m actually surprised Ali didn’t take the bait about me calling eir scum being incapable of getting me lynched. Hmm. I wonder if Ali thinks that’s actually true.

[gobbledygook]

OkaPoka is my Town Read.

Why?

[gobbledygook]

Why did you feel the need to answer for him, Krazy?

[gobbledygook]

If I had real scum Reads RN id give em to Gobble, Chemist and Ank.

Why?

Why did you feel the need to answer for him, Krazy?

He didn’t answer anything.
And you damn well know I’m using the wheel LMAO.
IDK why you pretend you didn’t know.

My point is why are you using the wheel in the first place?

[gobbledygook]

Why did you feel the need to answer for him, Krazy?

Why are you asking questions that are answered in the post right before the one you were asking about?

-S

I didn’t actually see the wheel comment. I read about half of TSE’s posts whenever I play with him.

Do you think that’s scum indicative that I asked questions that have immediate answers?

[gobbledygook]

If I was actually playing I would be hard scum reading Chemist and Ank.
But Guess what.
The Wheel’s in charge.

so this game is a circus within a circus?

Is that why you have the clown nose avi? Are you role playing?

[gobbledygook]

Ali what if I said I hate animus

[gobbledygook]

TSE, can you show me a picture of your wheel?

[gobbledygook]

Oh you should see Menalque’s mini normal if you want to see a new low for town play.

Why do you scumread Bitmap, Sherlock?

[gobbledygook]

TSE do you know what time it is?

It’s Bonus Round!

Spin the wheel, add 1000, and that’s what consonants are worth!

[gobbledygook]

VOTE: TrueSoulEnergy

---

Bad. Get back on the RR wagon.

[gobbledygook]

VOTE: TrueSoulEnergy

---

Bad. Get back on the RR wagon.

[gobbledygook]

Bad. Get back on the RR wagon.

What is the source of your confidence in RR wagon?

-S

I don’t understand their incongruent play. RR is touted as being good, to the point that Titus should first pick them as mason, and then outs that they were not first picked as mason.

Seems... deliberately ignorant of the implications that has on the game state. Unless it is all a ploy between Titus and RR.

Why do you scumread Bitmap?

[gobbledygook]

I don’t understand their incongruent play. RR is touted as being good, to the point that Titus should first pick them as mason, and then outs that they were not first picked as mason.

Seems... deliberately ignorant of the implications that has on the game state. Unless it is all a ploy between Titus and RR.

Why do you scumread Bitmap?

So your entire problem with RR is based on pick spec?

I think I dislike every position Bitmap has taken at every point this game and some of his posts seem to advance a scum agenda or to try to position himself as town in a scummy manner.

That being said I didn't hate every part of our conversation last night, but he still vibed me briefly in the way someone like nomnom plays scum so even if he occasionally feels tonally town the way he responded to push felt ~not great.

-S

What do you mean by pick spec? I’m scumreading them for their reaction.

[gobbledygook]

I would add these to the reasons I want to lynch bitmap, bringing the total number of posts I want to lynch him for up to 9 total.

-S

What are the 6 other posts?

Spoiler: posts

and irritated Titus didn't draft us

I'm irritated you keep saying this. I don't want to play wifom with Ali. Not winding up in my pool =/= not drafted and I would expect you both to pass that logic test.

As for why AF's argument is wrong, bad content is worse than no content.

Explain to me what I'm missing then. Seriously.

We're not on Alisae's team. We're not in your mason group. We significantly discount the idea that you didn't take any masons. I don't see how we end up in this position unless you just didn't want us. Your explanation that we'll clash but move beyond it is frustrating to me because of that one game that had multiple PTs. Space Dandy 2?

Like ... you're unimpeachable for obvious reasons. We kind of thought we would be also.

~D

Oof sorry Titus. I'm an idiot sometimes. The word "draft" made me think that you had a priority order on the people you submitted. But obviously (now that you explained and I carefully read the 2nd post) if it were that way you would know if someone was scum because your preference draft on them failed. Plz disregard earlier derpness.

~D

Oof sorry Titus. I'm an idiot sometimes. The word "draft" made me think that you had a priority order on the people you submitted. But obviously (now that you explained and I carefully read the 2nd post) if it were that way you would know if someone was scum because your preference draft on them failed. Plz disregard earlier derpness.

~D

Apology accepted. You'll still have to accept some side eye based on burden of proficiency though. You claimed you weren't a mason in the public thread after all, despite our years of playing together. You also claimed not to read for detail. Again, that's not you like.

I'll need you to tell me who is scum.

~Titus

I reject BoP. I frequently make (poor?) assumptions in games with mechanics new to me. This is demonstrable pretty much always.

Day one first 24 hours scum reads? From me? This should be hilariously good.

Alisae is totally scum this game. Have you SEEN the shitposting?

Scum in: {TSE, FL, FA, Espe, S&W} <--- they all have at least weak evidence in my thoughts so far. Generally takes more than that plus Cerb poking logic before I'm more certain though, and it's still pretty early his time.

~D

Scum in: {TSE, FL, FA, Espe, S&W} <--- they all have at least weak evidence in my thoughts so far. Generally takes more than that plus Cerb poking logic before I'm more certain though, and it's still pretty early his time.

~D

This is a horrible scum list.

FL is not scum. Espe is not scum. And TSE is just a village idiot with a high chance of being town but annoying.

You know, you're going to get zero pushback when you call any reads given by this hydra terrible on D1.

Like, we don't even give reads lists D1. I have no idea wtf Drixx is smoking thinking leaving the game for months suddenly gave him the ability to actually read people on D1.

I think anyone who votes for Pine needs to state whether they're voting because they think it's best to remove him ASAP given the expressed NU, OR if it's because you think he's scum.

-Cerb

What does NU mean?

Negative utility; abilities that hurt town.

-Cerb

I don’t like these posts, Sherlock.

[gobbledygook]

Someone else asked if my suspicion on Pine is role related or claim related. For me, it is both.

Kill Pine to make people not ascetic. We have already had one ascetic claim that he was a powerful role, so to allow a protective to cover that role, Pine needs to go.

Moreover, so other roles can investigate them.

I also have claim related reason to think what Pine did is bad. I think it narrows the pool down for who can be a power role or not. Pine said his role requires him to die for towns benefit. And as such he’s going to try hard. He shouldn’t need to claim and get all of that info in order to try and get killed. Claiming he is an enabler IF there is a scum ascetic just means scum are NOT going to kill him.

[gobbledygook]

I don’t have an issue with the readlist itself. I have an issue with the qualifications both heads put on the readslist after Titus wanted one. I think they were trying to placate Titus with humor and doing what she wanted to diffuse a situation they potentially saw going very poorly for them if Titus is able to mind meld so effectively with them.

I really didn’t like Cerb calling out Drixx’s readlist with the joke about being away for so long. Everyone knows that readslists this early are usually very wrong. Why draw so much attention to that fact?

[gobbledygook]

Kill Pine to make people not ascetic. We have already had one ascetic claim that he was a powerful role, so to allow a protective to cover that role, Pine needs to go.

Moreover, so other roles can investigate them.

I mean, perhaps, but we don't know if the town even has direct investigatives

maybe it's ALL MASONS and then 3 vigs!

I mean probably not but saying we should lynch a slot off day 1 setup spec seems weaksauce

for all we know scum have 3 different roleblockers and people are ascetic so that they can have night action results

like we can't just presume that the ascetic enabler is exclusively pro-scum based on day 1 setup info

-S

There’s also the fact that I saw Pine scum do a day 1 partial massclaim, so I have reason to doubt his intentions here.

I mean, maybe, but setups aren’t likely to be like the type you said. The last few Pine v. Camn and Alisae v. Pine did not feature setups as bimodal as you’re suggesting.

[gobbledygook]

What are the 6 other Bitmap posts, Krazy?

[gobbledygook]

So your vote from page 4 came from a single post that Bitmap made, and you’ve barely advocated for more support for his lynch. I don’t like the looks of that.

[gobbledygook]

I do agree that Pine should die at some point as his role strongly points to there being a scum ascetic but what reasons does scum!Pine have to claim that? If he's scum and all ascetic claims are town, then that strongly helps out town if he dies and it's even worse if there's a scum ascetic on his side. Pine is also hinting that there's more to his role than just being ascetic enabler.

If all town ascetics, getting to know who you can freely nightkill is pretty big.
If mostly all town ascetics, that premise is amplified as you have the scum ascetic kill the town ascetics.
Not to mention, you’ll be able to know who is worth roleblocking or not.

That’s in addition to the fact that people view truth more positively than withholding that information. His claim has already garnered him a lot of good will. Now people are primed to *not* want to lynch him because he is apparently being truthful.

[gobbledygook]

So your vote from page 4 came from a single post that Bitmap made, and you’ve barely advocated for more support for his lynch. I don’t like the looks of that.

So you're just not reading the thread at all then?

-S

Where have you asked for people to vote Bitmap with you?

[gobbledygook]

One post to MariaR and Funnstral.

Gottt it

[gobbledygook]

Why not ask for people to commit to reads on Bitmap or comment on your Bitmap case if you think he’s strongly likely to be scum?

[gobbledygook]

Asking for people to commit to reads on a scum is highly determinative, in my opinion. I don’t see why that necessarily leads to a rushed end of day.

[gobbledygook]

I think those are all reasons why scum!Pine would be more likely to keep that hidden as opposed to claiming it right away.

Can you walk me through those reasons?

[gobbledygook]

Oh okay so now we're just complaining about playstyle

okay I'll be back when there's a conversation worth having in this thread

-S

Hmm..

[gobbledygook]

If all town ascetics, getting to know who you can freely nightkill is pretty big.

If mostly all town ascetics, that premise is amplified as you have the scum ascetic kill the town ascetics.

Not to mention, you’ll be able to know who is worth roleblocking or not.

These reasons are why I don't think Pine would do this if he was a scum!Ascetic Enabler. It's just objectively better for scum that it stays hidden.

PEDIT: Every time I try to make a post I get pedited like three times lol

Why is it objectively better?

Scum don’t know who they can free kill
Scum don’t know who to not roleblock/investigate
Pine doesn’t get good Will from the town

[gobbledygook]

You cannot use your conclusion as your premise for your conclusion. That’s circular. That’s what I think you’re saying right now, Aaron.

A bird cannot be a bird because it is a bird. A bird can be a bird because it has feathers, wings, and a beak.

[gobbledygook]

That post didn’t show up in my pedit, ok, I see what you’re saying, Aaron.

[gobbledygook]

I would like to be last to announce ascetic/not ascetic.

[gobbledygook]

Spin the Wheel is going to be the new mechanic in an Ali game

[gobbledygook]

lol ali

[gobbledygook]

What is the archetype of your ideal scum player?

[gobbledygook]

That was directed at Ali

[gobbledygook]

Sherlock and Watson are town. AaronFrost is town.

[gobbledygook]

Ank, you seem stilted.

[gobbledygook]

You seem like you’re not trying to really get involved with the game. Like you’re keeping everyone at an arm’s length away.

[gobbledygook]

VOTE: Ank

[gobbledygook]

I think FL is town. That said, FL, if you shoot me I will find you in the Bay.

FL why do you have a high opinion of my scum game?

[gobbledygook]

What scum qualities does The Thing have?

Preen my feathers

Stroke my ego.

I think I’m abysmal at scum.

[gobbledygook]

FL I think Esp is town. Help me PoE the game. Who are your strong townreads other than Hectic/Aaron?
But also, why is Hectic a strong town read?

[gobbledygook]

I am familiar with the comics and not even I know what you're getting at FL.

Gobble, if you're ever legit in the area, lmk. We'll all get together.

I have neither the free time nor the money to fly cross country right now. when I have those things I’ll let you know!

[gobbledygook]

But is Ali Chris Evans human torch or Michael B Jordan human torch... hmm

[gobbledygook]

Ank who is on your do not want to lynch today list?

[gobbledygook]

Hectic is making sense. Is this scum indicative... hmm

[gobbledygook]

Hectic, who is your strongest town read?

[gobbledygook]

Oh I hope I get nightkilled night 1. I rarely get nightkilled and it would be an honor over people like Ank, FL, Spiffeh, etc

[gobbledygook]

VOTE: OkaPoka

[gobbledygook]

Ali, you should say “Dad, when you said X, it hurt me because Y. Please do not say X.”

Then you should say “Dad, what did you think of the 49ers losing in the Super Bowl”

[gobbledygook]

Ali, you should say “Dad, when you said X, it hurt me because Y. Please do not say X.”

Then you should say “Dad, what did you think of the 49ers losing in the Super Bowl”

he doesn't watch the Super Bowl

Insert any question about anything he likes to do, enjoys, etc

If you like to hear him talk, ask him about something he likes. People will naturally talk a lot about things they like. You should always say my first sentence though. It establishes a boundary with your dad, which is important as people age into adulthood. It is hard to establish boundaries with our parents, but they are needed for a healthy relationship.

[gobbledygook]

Let’s wagon Oka. There can only be one bird in this game.

[gobbledygook]

I had to learn to set boundaries with my own dad. While the relationship dynamic changed as a result, I am much happier with it. My mental health issues stemming from him also improved. I suggest you try

[gobbledygook]

Who are you scumreading Oka?

[gobbledygook]

Who are you scumreading Oka?

flavor > ank > amrun > gobble

Pour quoi

[gobbledygook]

Your scum reads and your reasoning behind them, Oka.

[gobbledygook]

Your scum reads and your reasoning behind them, Oka.

which of the reads are you curious about because i have posted about all of them

Can you list which posts you have talked about them

[gobbledygook]

UNVOTE:

[gobbledygook]

Amrun is regularly VLA on weekends. She primarily plays from her work computer. Her not being here is currently not alignment indicative.

This is the second game I’ve had to say this about Amrun.

[gobbledygook]

Is Temtem Pokémon but for weebs

[gobbledygook]

Ali what is your honest evaluation of my scumplay

[gobbledygook]

VOTE: Spiffeh

You’re underwhelming for a paragon.

[gobbledygook]

Okay what about lying about the history to create a false gamestate premise

No, you’re the one lying. I split your push into pre flavor being here and after. You’re one after i showed up is fake

How is his push after you showed up fake? What is fake about it?

[gobbledygook]

I think Espeonage is pretty town. What is scum indicative to you about his play?

[gobbledygook]

Vote Spiffeh with me, FL!

[gobbledygook]

VOTE: spiffeh

The wheels on the bus go round and round, round and round, round and round

[gobbledygook]

Gobble, you're up. Ascetic or no?

I think I want Pine to answer my questions before I answer this question.

[gobbledygook]

Yeah and we let you go to lylo for a reason

Dude, trust me and stop the spam.

Not like anyone else is doing much tbh

I’m ok with the current level of activity. I was worried this would turn into AvP where Ali diarrhead all over the game but e hasnt, so it’s been really nice!

[gobbledygook]

If what I think about Pine’s role is true, then he can probably answer for me.

[gobbledygook]

To be honest, TSE is fully capable of playing well as scum without any coaching. Look at his play before he was force replaced due to site rules violations in Big Four Mafia.

[gobbledygook]

It's weird how Sherlock and Watson apparently scumreads Bitmap the most yet every few posts they'll try to drum up support for our lynch and then start talking about something else when it doesn't work.

Town Dunn does not write this post LOL

-S

Why not?

[gobbledygook]

honestly I probably should just hood FL

If you value either your life or your sanity, you will not do this

[gobbledygook]

Bitmap who have I been fencesitting on?

pedit:

I think you misunderstand the life comment. FL will paranoia vig his neighbors. I've been one of his victims.

[gobbledygook]

Bitmap who have I been fencesitting on?

pedit:

I think you misunderstand the life comment. FL will paranoia vig his neighbors. I've been one of his victims.

Ank, Spiff, Oka

ok and if he vigs me u can then lynch him????

Can you explain how I have fencesitted on those people as I have voted for them?

[gobbledygook]

Bitmap who have I been fencesitting on?

pedit:

I think you misunderstand the life comment. FL will paranoia vig his neighbors. I've been one of his victims.

Ank, Spiff, Oka

ok and if he vigs me u can then lynch him????

Can you explain how I have fencesitted on those people as I have voted for them?

Didn't you hard scum read RR and it just all dissolved?

Yes and no. I still do scumread RR, but no one was really supporting that lynch.

[gobbledygook]

Bitmap who have I been fencesitting on?

pedit:

I think you misunderstand the life comment. FL will paranoia vig his neighbors. I've been one of his victims.

Ank, Spiff, Oka

ok and if he vigs me u can then lynch him????

Can you explain how I have fencesitted on those people as I have voted for them?

Didn't you hard scum read RR and it just all dissolved?

That still doesn't answer how I am fencesitting on the three people you've mentioned? I'm not sure how a scumread on another player means a fencesit on those three.
Yes and no. I still do scumread RR, but no one was really supporting that lynch.

[gobbledygook]

Where is all of this animosity towards my slot coming from...?

[gobbledygook]

Bitmap who have I been fencesitting on?

pedit:

I think you misunderstand the life comment. FL will paranoia vig his neighbors. I've been one of his victims.

Ank, Spiff, Oka

ok and if he vigs me u can then lynch him????

Can you explain how I have fencesitted on those people as I have voted for them?

Didn't you hard scum read RR and it just all dissolved?

That still doesn't answer how I am fencesitting on the three people you've mentioned? I'm not sure how a scumread on another player means a fencesit on those three.
Yes and no. I still do scumread RR, but no one was really supporting that lynch.

[gobbledygook]

Bitmap can you answer my question to you?

how does me wanting an RR lynch mean I'm fencesitting on Oka, Spiffeh, Ank?

[gobbledygook]

That's not really fencesitting, but... uh ok

[gobbledygook]

This is worse than when RC yelled at me because I confused ninja with strongman and didn't know strongman bypasses bodyguard.

But what did you confuse fence sitting for...? I’m not even sure there’s a buzzword for what you’re accusing me of

[gobbledygook]

VOTE: Bitmap

[gobbledygook]

VOTE: Maki and Kaito

[gobbledygook]

TSE my wheel says you should vote MK.

[gobbledygook]

On Bitmap everyone!

VOTE: Bitmap

[gobbledygook]

Gonna take a risk here bc I feel like I have done enough work to potentially be a target anyway.

I'm also Ascetic and a PR.

That's two people. You and RR. Maybe TSE if you accept his trolling. Maybe Gobble. That's 4 slots. Doctors useless. I don't think so.

I’m also ascetic, remember. And Sherlock probably is.

Why do you think Sherlock probably is?

[gobbledygook]

The composition of the SW wagon is all I need to see to know it’s a terrible wagon.

[gobbledygook]

I ~cordially~ invite birdbro and his friend to kill Bitmap we me

[gobbledygook]

VOTE: Kaito and Maki

[gobbledygook]

SW talk to me about Chemist and RR town reads?

[gobbledygook]

I am DYING at work of that meme about your read on me, Sherlock.

[gobbledygook]

What movie is that from? The Toni Collette one

[gobbledygook]

Probably Knives Out. I need to watch that.

[gobbledygook]

Bye, FA!

Take care

[gobbledygook]

Do I make you roll your eyes, Sherlock?

[gobbledygook]

Oh I did not know that.

[gobbledygook]

The composition of the SW wagon is all I need to see to know it’s a terrible wagon.

Besides Bitmap, who bothers you?

Pine and Oka.

[gobbledygook]

here's an idea

lets lynch not either of them!

great idea
who do you propose?
is it Spiffeh?

idfk

gun to head I'd say gobble but I'm not exactly enthused by that one either

You have been holding onto this nagging scumread of me. Please substantiate it.

[gobbledygook]

@Titus
Who do you scum read most out of Pine, Ank, Frozen Angel and Amrun?

Who do you scum read?

[gobbledygook]

Fuck my life.

Okay, can someone explain to me why we're doing essentially nothing about the multiple people who have lied and/or danced around the whole ascetic thing(okay okay I guess we're wagoning S&W without conviction)? That would be gobbles, espe, and S&W. Low on time, but I'll ISO them all respectively shortly, but I"m pretty damn sure there's a buncha "these slots are fucking liars" things in all of their ISO's.

If there's some compelling reason why I shouldn't waste my time researching any of them in particular, please let me know before I do so.

-Cerb

Why does it matter again..? Pine still hasn’t answered me.

[gobbledygook]

Probably bc I have like four modifiers in my role that made my asceticism not neg utility.

That’s hilarious

[gobbledygook]

Wait when did this game get to 112 pages. I feel like I’m missing some..

[gobbledygook]

RR, do you have any scum reads?

[gobbledygook]

Hi I'm not dead

I've had a day without internet, a couple of sad days, influenza A rampant at work, and a tired day. I should have declared V/LA

What did I miss?

Why did you want everyone to claim ascetic/not ascetic?

[gobbledygook]

Pine - Ascetic Enabler
Amrun - Ascetic
RR - Ascetic
Chemist - not ascetic
oka - not ascetic
bitmap - not ascetic
ank - not ascetic
hectic motherfucking hectic - not ascetic
spiff - not ascetic
espeonage - not ascetic
sherlock - not ascetic
maki - not ascetic
AF - not ascetic
FA - not ascetic
gobbles - has not claimed
Fl - has not claimed/ignored the ascetic stuff so assuming not ascetic until proven otherwise
TSE - implied not ascetic

If I missed any or got anything wrong let me know and I'll fix it

~W

FL and TSE claimed not ascetic. I am also not ascetic.

The three ascetics claimed are {Amrun, RR, Espeonage}

[gobbledygook]

Man, does this mean I gotta stop lurking? Why the fuck are we even at L-2?

Sherlock decided to hard push you, no one else was. No one else supported. Ignore the rest of the wagon.

Krazy is being fucking stupid for no reason because he hasn't seen Dunn when he tryhards. Like, are we just sheeping Sherlock because he's pissy that Dunn was countering his points? I can't believe i srsly have to put time into this game rn

There’s also the fact that your slot was objectively doing nothing with it’s vote and seemingly not scumhunting. But yes, let’s go with Sherlock not seeing try hard Dunn.

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Gobby and FL votes on us are wildcard but I don't really care for their opinions at the moment.

Why don’t you care about my opinion?

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Gobby and FL votes on us are wildcard but I don't really care for their opinions at the moment.

Why don’t you care about my opinion?

I can't go into details why.

Oh I see

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And peace be with you

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VOTE: Bitmap

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Who did you neighborize

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Wait no I don't. I forgot how my role worked for a sec.

Ignore me.

VOTE: OkaPoka

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L-5

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L-4

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FA’s town cuz in the numerous posts where she was asking why people thought she was scum, not once has she mentioned that “What makes you think I was picked by Alisae?” , “Why would Alisae choose me?” whereas a scum would’ve had that aspect acknowledged most likely in their PT.

Why would a scum say that to begin with

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L-2

UNVOTE:

Now L-3

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Pine is probably town

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I think Bitmap + RR has scum in it

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VOTE: RR

I have a headache

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Wait

VOTE: Bitmap

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SW, I will vote insomnia if you promise to kill Bitmap?

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Ank, when do you rise to the level of good scum hunter that I’ve heard so much about but have not witnessed with my own two eyes

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dont kill me im cute

hi cute, I’m dad

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but you’re also scum so :c

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I never know why people with abilities don’t target people no one can read but with big presences (FL, Ank, etc) but I will let people make their own mistakes

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Ank, when do you rise to the level of good scum hunter that I’ve heard so much about but have not witnessed with my own two eyes

I feel like there’s a big possibility of AnkScum here. Not giant, but big.

Agreed. I’m not sure I want her though? I have so many fish to fry right now. I wish I had a vig

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Thinking my priorities today are {TSE, Bitmap, Espeonage, RR}

I do think one of the ascetics is scum... just don’t know if it’s Espeonage or RR.

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For real though I don’t think TSE is playing to his town meta rn

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VOTE: Insomnia

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TSE’s town

Why do you say so?

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Amrun

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Ank, when do you rise to the level of good scum hunter that I’ve heard so much about but have not witnessed with my own two eyes

because catching scum isn't my strongest point

it's catching town

Do you still scumread me?

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Amrun, to answer your message, yes, I do think that is a possibility. That said, I think you should try to target someone with your ability and say something very specific in the message that only the person who receives it could recite in the thread. This might help us find any hidden ascetics in the game.

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TrueSoulEnergy
Espeonage
Bitmap
insomnia
Chemist1422
AaronFrost
Ankamius
Reasonably Rational

I am pretty sure these 8 names contain 3 scum which is pretty good odds I think. I really think that TSE has high scum equity. Especially with the BS role he claimed. He would be trying to kill scum as hard as possible knowing he could kill them when they killed him. His play is different from the Masquerade Dance I saw and his play in Mainstream Mafia II where I felt he was town siding.

I think I am most upset about not having a town read on Reasonably Rational and my reads on Espeonage and AaronFrost weakening.

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Ank, when do you rise to the level of good scum hunter that I’ve heard so much about but have not witnessed with my own two eyes

because catching scum isn't my strongest point

it's catching town

Do you still scumread me?

my reads reset after d1

I have given you a list of 8 people. At least 5 are town. Please find them for me.

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Titus, did you and Spiffeh discuss any one in particular

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What makes you think scum ascetic(s) claimed? You seem to be readily accepting 3 ascetic claims with an enabler and at least two other crumbs of ascetic, but also seem to be excluding the probability that scum would avoid claiming it. This seems bad, particularly because of how quickly Pine outed what he does.

Because not claiming ascetic and getting hit by an ability = turbolynch

What are the other crumbs of ascetic? All I remember is Esp claiming ascetic, Amrun, and you

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insomnia/bitmap are probably town slots

These are spicy.

Why?

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I just modded town insomnia. I should probably read that game lel

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Alisae if you’re able to please call 1-800-273-8255 or visit https://suicidepreventionlifeline.org/

You’re too young to be thinking like this. I know life seems bleak when your love interest just showed they do not love you back. It is hard. Everyone has gone through that. It’s gut wrenching. You begin to call into question your identity. Your purpose. If you’re good enough. No one will ever love you. All these terrible thoughts.

But they aren’t true. You are good enough. You will find someone who actually loves you as much as you love them. You do have purpose. If you can, please start physically exercising. Even if it is just a mile walk around the block or your neighborhood. The chemicals that get released will help you overcome the grief you’re feeling now.

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I'm hard-vetoing an insomnia lynch for d2

Why should we care what you think when you did this with a scum JoAT?

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Titus, did you and Spiffeh discuss any one in particular

I don't think I can answer this without revealing who is not a mason. Why did you ask this?

I mean, I don’t think it will reveal who is not a mason. I don’t want like an entire reads list but if there were 2-3 people that could be a good starting point. Clearly the scum killed Spiffeh for how he looked after that wagon on MK. I think he might have been right on another.

I never know why people with abilities don’t target people no one can read but with big presences (FL, Ank, etc) but I will let people make their own mistakes

Why are you making strategy requests like this? It feels like rolefishing.

It isn’t. But from my perspective if I have the ability to check a persons alignment, I am definitely using it on a big name that’s notoriously difficult to actually read for the majority of the players. FL and Ank would be my choices in that case.

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I'm unaware of us having any historical connection, so I don't quite see why you should be especially invested in having a town read on our slot.

We don’t have a historical connection. But given Titus’s reaction to your slot Day 1 you seem like a potent player. But right now your play doesn’t show potency. :\

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Why does the stacked playerlist make BoP irrelevant?

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Ank you always threaten that.

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Insomnia, I think Aaron is town.

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VOTE: Chemist

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Why send such a friendly strategy comment? That seems unlike you.

Also how did you eliminate everyone on your list to reach your PoE?

Amrun is a mailman and asked me a question concerning a potential MK buddy. I don’t want to reveal until later (and with Amrun’s permission). I think we can use her ability to find any hidden ascetics if there are any. Since Amrun is herself an ascetic, the only reason her message will fail is if she targets another ascetic or her target dies.

Based on the claims I removed Pine, Hectic, Oka, and Amrun. Based on play I removed SW and FL. I removed myself because I know I am town.

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VOTE: Chemist

aren't you buying my case on aaron or why are you town reading him?

I think that Aaron has other townie posts, but I don’t really see those in Chemist’s iso.
In particular I think Aaron is town for his back and forth with me about saying Pine’s claim is more likely to come from town than scum.

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Aaron self admits he is bad as scum

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As for Chemist he’s scum because of his first push that was ever serious was on TSE and that’s enough to conclude a scum read on him, he’s been on MU and knows how goofy towns act, this is not town chemist.

wait when was my TSE push serious

That means you haven’t been scumhunting at all. So vote confirmed?

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As for Chemist he’s scum because of his first push that was ever serious was on TSE and that’s enough to conclude a scum read on him, he’s been on MU and knows how goofy towns act, this is not town chemist.

wait when was my TSE push serious

That means you haven’t been scumhunting at all. So vote confirmed?

I literally said halfway through D1 my primary objective was to have fun

so vote confirmed then

Even when you have fun you still try though. You don’t seem to be trying

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Amrun, to answer your message, yes, I do think that is a possibility. That said, I think you should try to target someone with your ability and say something very specific in the message that only the person who receives it could recite in the thread. This might help us find any hidden ascetics in the game.

I also can’t control what it says I am not OP lol. But I’m working with what I got. I’m actually kinda confused by this and need to ask the mod a question

Yeah subtext and all that

I get what you’re saying though

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As for Chemist he’s scum because of his first push that was ever serious was on TSE and that’s enough to conclude a scum read on him, he’s been on MU and knows how goofy towns act, this is not town chemist.

wait when was my TSE push serious

That means you haven’t been scumhunting at all. So vote confirmed?

I literally said halfway through D1 my primary objective was to have fun

so vote confirmed then

Even when you have fun you still try though. You don’t seem to be trying

No one’s been expecting me to

That’s the issue. Your trying should be the result of internal motivation. Scum have no internal motivation.

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Not really feeling the Mako wagon tbh. I'll explain more when I have time.

Great, now you have time, explain.

What’s your read on Bitmap

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He did the same thing Aaron did.

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He said we shouldn’t lynch MK because he would neighborize them.

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Actually. An Ali team that doesn’t have Ank on it is exactly the Ali team that neighborizers Ank. Hm

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what scum ever does that

How is that different than what Aaron did

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what scum ever does that

How is that different than what Aaron did

I still don't understand what you're trying to say.

You are scumreading Aaron for a post that said he didn’t prefer the MK lynch.
You’re not scumreading Bitmap who said the same thing.

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Titus you would me

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I’m also vetoing amrun.

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Titus, there are 4 total scum players in addition to Ali as a scum treestump.

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TrueSoulEnergy
Espeonage
Bitmap
insomnia
Chemist1422
AaronFrost
Ankamius
Reasonably Rational

Maki and Kaito (9) - Sherlock and Watson, Spiffeh, gobbledygook, Flavor Leaf, Hectic, Pine, Espeonage, OkaPoka, AaronFrost

I find it interesting that the majority of the people on my list are off the MK wagon. That makes me feel better about the list.

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he doesn't know pepelaugh

What is that?

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RIGHT. Alright Titus, prospects noted, I'm not a huge fan of gobble within that group(as in I've actually looked at their ISO and have suspect posting I'll present in a bit for peer review to make sure I'm not being biased because of their irrational focus on us).

Irrational focus on you? I would like this explained.

I don’t think I’ve been focusing on you and I don’t think I’ve been irrational in constructing my opinions about you.

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VOTE: TSE

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Vote S&W it's on the agenda today.

Why? I thought their day yesterday was pretty town.

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If they are scum, Ank will catch them.

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Oh is Ank scum too

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How did the mods let you pick SW, Ank, MK??