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I agree with the Hectic reads in the fact that he seems different then the other games I have played with him. I take that as an NAI read and I think I know what insomnia is talking about. Being in 4 games with him I can't really say anything meta
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This post from Flippy made me think that they are just trying to post stuff that sounds like it should come from town. Specifically pointing out that they are unsure about the idea and that they are "paranoid".In post 245, Emperor flippyNips wrote:
tho when i was catching up nothing she did really stood out as "oh maybe this could actually be town" if im saying that now its due to general paranoiaIn post 241, Emperor flippyNips wrote:let me double back. i'll re read the last few pages but im not voting them based on their wimpy progresion- dsjstr
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This looks like they are agreeing to trying to sound like townIn post 257, Emperor flippyNips wrote:In post 248, insomnia wrote:I don't know what you want out of me, to expound on my reads?
I am a free flowing transparent spirit conveying each and every thought of mine that pops through my head, you should be able to deduce my reads throughout my organic progressions, that's like the only thing I'm good at and that's why I'm obvtown and that's why my reads are shit for the most part
cuz i focus on being town read more than actually resorting to any critical thinking lol
there are like 50 posts of mine, me going through them again just clutters the thread with useless talk, they're all there.
most of this is just words to me. the only thing i can get behind is what i have bolded
idt think you're obvtown tho i still have you in the null area- dsjstr
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Again Fippy is saying they are playing how a town should play... unfortunately this does look bad and I'm completely on board with joining the flippy wagon. Still have a bad feeling they wanted to get town read because they are town, do the points I am making seem NAI?In post 271, Emperor flippyNips wrote:
& i'm pretty sure i have been commenting on stuff & quoting post that don't feel right to me. so i hardcore disagree there.In post 243, insomnia wrote:yeah you're doubling down on it while not really commenting on anything is my point, just stating blank reads list
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I agree that people shouldn't be read because of their v/la status but I don't see how they won't be able to help town. We need 5 votes to get someone lynched, I hope that this message doesn't get interpreted the wrong way because it seems like tensions are high. Lets all work together not against each other.In post 301, Wimpy wrote:So to better answer your question. No I don’t think she lied. I think she actually thought that was an acceptable strategy and it’s not.
I don’t care if she didn’t realize it was Sunday. Even if it had been Monday, that’s when I would have just been getting back.
It’s a low life despicable reason to vote for somebody and to me that means she’s scum or a low life despicable player who thinks that it’s ok to vote somebody who’s v/la.
Either way. I don’t give a damn. I am unable to look past it. I definitely will never be able to town read this slot so the best thing to do is to get rid of her. She’s shown poor judgement and is incapable of helping town win.- dsjstr
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Angry KamekIn post 324, Hectic wrote:
Lul, I wouldn't read into my typing style at all. I intentionally vary it game-to-game.In post 322, clidd wrote:So, Hectic, can i trust you or we'll probably or are we likely to collide ? we are in so many games together that your typing variation confuses me.
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Flippy has been trying to make himself look good.In post 407, Luca Blight wrote:
Scum!Flippy tries to look good. Town!Flippy does whatever. This is exactly the same as Town Flippy from my experience with him.In post 381, Hectic wrote:Luca, what does scum!Flippo look like? And why do you SR me?
Wimpo, am I right in assuming you think clidd is town despite pushing you?
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flippy/emporer scum team confIn post 510, Emperor flippyNips wrote:town
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I have to say I agree with this and I saw Luca as being town in the Luca/Aaron clash. Aaron was not fence sitting in his town game with me, but he did start the game slow and then quickly positioned players. Luca and Aaron can you share your thoughts on the flippy wagon. If you have already done so can you quote it for me.In post 571, Luca Blight wrote:And I think it's unreasonable that you're SR'ing me so strongly because I disagree on Frost.- dsjstr
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Still working on that but I am leaning towards Aaron as my second.In post 588, Hectic wrote:Doro, I'm assuming you're still good with your Flippo read? Who'd be your second guess for scum?
I still kinda like AaronFF based on the last couple of pages. I think his scumgame is a little different in that he has less interest for solving. Also, the uncertainty/fencesititng looking behaviour is actually a town trait for Aaron (I think), he has unusual confidence in reads as scum:
and other stuff in this ISOIn post 2213, AaronFrost wrote:I'm like 95% confident that davesaz is town.
I also believe that Garmr is telling the truth as dumb of a move as that was, so he is probably town.- dsjstr
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In post 402, clidd wrote:Current reads>
Locktown:Luca Blight, Insomnia, Wimpy.
Indicative town: Aaron Frost, Ame.
Unsure:Emperor flippyNips, Dsjstr, Hectic.
Clidd is more engaged but it looks like this game is not as simple as the last so I won't SR him for playing differently. Do you have a reason to SR him because I can't think of one. He did list his unsure as red which can be interpreted as PoE scum. But there are a lot of lock TR from him, and if clidd is town then I would feel good about his lock town reads. If he is scum then I could see him putting his buddy as lock town. I was going to place my vote on clidd so we could get that intel.In post 709, Hectic wrote:Entertaining the possibility of a Clidd+Luca team. Luca "scumreads" clidd early for not being active enough. Clidd locktowns him for it and Luca backs off because Clidd's playing the game which is town-indicative. Distances them early and gives them a reason to townread each other later. Tinfoil theory for now.- dsjstr
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If you were planning to move me up to joker can I suggest putting me at jester.In post 718, clidd wrote:These voting distributions are a mess. Dsjstr voting Flippy ? Ame and Insomnia in a wagon ? something is wrong here.- dsjstr
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I will sure not be lynching them thanks for the tipIn post 740, Karnage wrote:Sorry replaced in and some IRL stuff came up. Will try to be around tomorrow
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In post 956, Hectic wrote:
How is this selfish of you? You're voting someone to prove to us they're locktown?In post 940, clidd wrote:It is selfish of me, but I would like to be right about Insomnia and Karnage being towns, as I defined in my initial read.
VOTE: Insomnia
Why is no one considering clidd here?
I wanted to do it to get conf townIn post 729, dsjstr wrote:In post 402, clidd wrote:Current reads>
Locktown:Luca Blight, Insomnia, Wimpy.
Indicative town: Aaron Frost, Ame.
Unsure:Emperor flippyNips, Dsjstr, Hectic.
Clidd is more engaged but it looks like this game is not as simple as the last so I won't SR him for playing differently. Do you have a reason to SR him because I can't think of one. He did list his unsure as red which can be interpreted as PoE scum. But there are a lot of lock TR from him, and if clidd is town then I would feel good about his lock town reads. If he is scum then I could see him putting his buddy as lock town. I was going to place my vote on clidd so we could get that intel.In post 709, Hectic wrote:Entertaining the possibility of a Clidd+Luca team. Luca "scumreads" clidd early for not being active enough. Clidd locktowns him for it and Luca backs off because Clidd's playing the game which is town-indicative. Distances them early and gives them a reason to townread each other later. Tinfoil theory for now.- dsjstr
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No I thought it was you/LucaIn post 983, Emperor flippyNips wrote:In post 976, dsjstr wrote:It could be clidd/Insomnnia Hectic/Insomnia, I think we just have to lynch Insomnia
Did you suspect insomnia before Luca claimed?- dsjstr
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I am guessing you have not played with clidd before, I wouldn't be surprised if all of his locktown are correct... unless he is scum. Like I said earlier I bet he would place is scumbuddy in that section knowing that there is no way he would ever get lynched.In post 989, Ame wrote:
You wanted to lynch Clidd so we could follow his reads if he flipped town?In post 975, dsjstr wrote:In post 956, Hectic wrote:
How is this selfish of you? You're voting someone to prove to us they're locktown?In post 940, clidd wrote:It is selfish of me, but I would like to be right about Insomnia and Karnage being towns, as I defined in my initial read.
VOTE: Insomnia
Why is no one considering clidd here?
I wanted to do it to get conf townIn post 729, dsjstr wrote:In post 402, clidd wrote:Current reads>
Locktown:Luca Blight, Insomnia, Wimpy.
Indicative town: Aaron Frost, Ame.
Unsure:Emperor flippyNips, Dsjstr, Hectic.
Clidd is more engaged but it looks like this game is not as simple as the last so I won't SR him for playing differently. Do you have a reason to SR him because I can't think of one. He did list his unsure as red which can be interpreted as PoE scum. But there are a lot of lock TR from him, and if clidd is town then I would feel good about his lock town reads. If he is scum then I could see him putting his buddy as lock town. I was going to place my vote on clidd so we could get that intel.In post 709, Hectic wrote:Entertaining the possibility of a Clidd+Luca team. Luca "scumreads" clidd early for not being active enough. Clidd locktowns him for it and Luca backs off because Clidd's playing the game which is town-indicative. Distances them early and gives them a reason to townread each other later. Tinfoil theory for now.- dsjstr
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True, and the fact it was my first scum game and it was as the most informed role didn't helpIn post 1002, clidd wrote:
He's probably talking about '' Micro 918 ''. But the context was totally different, I'm not taking the same approach here.In post 997, dsjstr wrote:One game, he knew the three mafia on page 7 out of 21.- dsjstr
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I was also questioning the legitimacy of the mason claim, but I figured it would only hurt town to lynch them.In post 1009, AaronFrost wrote:If both masons live to see lylo then I'll be really concerned about the claim but for now there's no reason not to believe it- dsjstr
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Did you think that because he hammered himself?In post 1035, Emperor flippyNips wrote:luca thought it was someone off of the insom wagon & i can agree. as for narrowing it down i don't have anything rn. i should of done more work in nf but i didn't nothing i can do about that now- dsjstr
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Who was he trying to rid suspicion of?In post 1064, clidd wrote:
I completely disagree. Insomnia was, in part, falsifying his reactions, but there were still traces of real anger in his typing. The time he invested heavily in arguing against Aaron may have overshadowed the development of a strategy to "rid" his partner of suspicion, which I can perfectly theorize if Karnage is town.In post 1057, Ame wrote:Clidd > Hectic > Aaron
I think it's more likely his partner was already on his wagon. Otherwise, why not give his partner a chance to come around and hammer. If his partner is Aaron or Hectic they just look bad. It doesn't make sense to leave them in that position.- dsjstr
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1. I put Hectic because of his voting pattern, at the time it made sense to have clidd as a partner don't remember exactly what I was thinking.In post 1091, Ame wrote:@dsjstr
(1) Can you explain how you came to the conclusion that it was Insomnia here? Why was Karnage and Aaron out of the running for you? You had previously stated suspicions on Aaron.In post 976, dsjstr wrote:It could be clidd/Insomnnia Hectic/Insomnia, I think we just have to lynch Insomnia
(2) Why didn't you vote Insomnia?
(3) Why would Luca not dying warrant neighbors claiming?
(4) Why doyouthink Somni self-hammered?
2. I was willing to place a vote on clidd at the time
3. Then it would be 4-3 conftown and an unavoidable town win.
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When I self hammered as scum it was an attempt to make everyone think that I wanted the person off the wagon to get lynched and so the focus would be placed on everyone else. This is the complete opposite situation in terms of numbers. But that does not change the fact that insomnia most likely wanted to get the potential lynch off his scum buddy and on to clidd.In post 1110, Hectic wrote:Basically, having everyone else think clidd is town does not = him actually being town if you scumread him. So the unavoidable town win thing based on the logic is Doroish in a bad way (there are good Doroisms too, dw).- dsjstr
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Do you think I'm the scum D:In post 1123, Hectic wrote:
Wait, what do you mean?In post 1118, dsjstr wrote:But that does not change the fact that insomnia most likely wanted to get the potential lynch off his scum buddy and on to clidd.
Is Somni trying to frame someone on or off his wagon? I thought you just implied the opposite.
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Please don't, I'm the jester and I've been trying to get lynched all game.In post 1124, Hectic wrote:
Don't tell anyone else but I'm mason recruiter. I'll be targeting you tonight. Keep this on the down low.In post 1122, dsjstr wrote:Sorry guys I'm pocketed now, whats the plan Hectic- dsjstr
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In post 1118, dsjstr wrote:
When I self hammered as scum it was an attempt to make everyone think that I wanted the person off the wagon to get lynched and so the focus would be placed on everyone else. This is the complete opposite situation in terms of numbers. But that does not change the fact that insomnia most likely wanted to get the potential lynch off his scum buddy and on to clidd.In post 1110, Hectic wrote:Basically, having everyone else think clidd is town does not = him actually being town if you scumread him. So the unavoidable town win thing based on the logic is Doroish in a bad way (there are good Doroisms too, dw).
But being serious, do you think insomnia would have been thinking the same way I was when I performed my final act. Trying to make people want to lynch clidd/ame rather than the people off the wagon?In post 1120, dsjstr wrote:Although I think I tend to think opposite in terms of how other players think. I'm curious about people still have the same opinion about what insomnia was thinking after hearing this.- dsjstr
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In post 1096, Karnage wrote: if the lynch is inevitable self hammer is the right move. it denies town the chance to learn more about who else could be scum
You think Insomnia was trying to prevent us from learning that his partner was actually on his wagon already?In post 1151, Karnage wrote: I still don't like ame but maybe its confirmation bias? idk
I have trouble seeing any sort of logical progression in their voting- dsjstr
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Well Hectic avoided going for Insomnia and opted to vote for clidd, with the little vocal support that had it could have been an attempt to get as many people off the insomnia wagon. I had said that clidd could have put his partner in the conftown if clidd was mafia, that was the whole argument for it. I felt insomnia had shown pockety behavior towards me, and based on the interaction between him and Luca he was caught red handed. At the time I had no reason to think it was not another team.
If I did I would not have had a reason other than a gut feeling. Was not a reason, which is why I never placed that vote on clidd. I was also not 100% sure it was insomnia and if I had chosen to switch to insomnia that would have made me seem like I was being opportunistic.
If Luca/Flippy was alive then the game would have been solved. Do you think I would kill Luca because I told you this?
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In post 1105, Ame wrote: 3a. You stated something along the lines of "should we out if Luca doesn't die."- dsjstr
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