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[Eragon]

Darkness blacker than black and darker than dark, I beseech thee, combine with my deep crimson. The time of awakening cometh. Justice, fallen upon the infallible boundary, appear now as an intangible distortion! Dance, Dance, Dance! I desire for my torrent of power a destructive force: a destructive force without equal! Return all creation to cinders, and come from the abyss!


It is I, the greatest Explosion Magic Magician in the World!

[Eragon]

Do you accept Crimson Demons?

[Eragon]

I also want to provide EVERY student the ability to thrive despite where they come from or their past.

@Eragon

You make a very compelling case :^)

[Eragon]

votes are only locked in at EoD right?

or is it whenever majority strikes for one of you

[Eragon]

120 x 100 avatar size limitations suk ;-;

[Eragon]

I guess that avi works

[Eragon]

But trash

Thats how you act as a study body president?

Calling waifus trash?

Your career :^)

[Eragon]

Look, I am just staying true to the game.

I might just need to show you the true power of explosion magic, and that's something only I would want to see.

[Eragon]

How is everyone not stupid excited for this game? I have been checking the thread every half hour to see how close it was getting.

Im excited to cast explosion

and thats all

[Eragon]

nope I'm too busy watching One Piece from The. Very. Goddamned. Start.

[Eragon]

nope I'm too busy watching One Piece from The. Very. Goddamned. Start.

also casting explosion*

those two things

[Eragon]

Been there done that lol. It took me literal years to get up to date and now I am like two arcs behind again.

Real talk though I put my waifu's name in to giphy and not a single gif of her comes up. :'(

im just an episode 53 scrub. started about a week and a half ago

and F for your waifu

[Eragon]

NOPE

[Eragon]

Oof

Yeah I’ve been really enjoying most of it
There’s some cheesy parts but like, it’s just great

[Eragon]

I’m waiting for that inevitable person who picked a JoJo’s character as their waifu through some Loophole

P-edit: nice

Hope to be there in a month or so lol

[Eragon]

better than 1000 + :3

[Eragon]

Oh yeah does anyone know what the tiers mean?

I believe its just how your waifu was picked

and has some relation to power scaling

higher tier waifus = better power

lower tier waifus = lesser power

but you can gain tiers I believe
which increases your power further

[Eragon]

im bored

[Eragon]

I didn't follow my golden u-pick rule and I'm regretting it.

what's the golden U-pick rule OwO

[Eragon]

I usually submit a pick designed specifically to make me one of the four roles I always want to get. Treestump/IC/FN/Mason

I mean we can still be masons :^)

I fucked up.

Should have sent in a ghost or a zombie. Tried to go for a tree stump. IC would have been too hard to target in a waifu game.

But idiot me sent in three girls I actually like.

good for you

[Eragon]

I was excited thinking someone else had posted

and then I realized it wasn't a player

Spoiler: image

[Eragon]

I was excited thinking someone else had posted

and then I realized it wasn't a player

Spoiler: image

Can I modkill him for feeling let down by an adorable backup mod? No?

Spoiler: another image

[Eragon]

F

have you checked Tenor?

[Eragon]

Can I go back to the thread when it was just me and Espeonage

[Eragon]

Is it fair for me to assume that Bitmap and Espeonage can't be scum together because of this mechanic?

-Y

Im not entirely sure but I believe this game is probably small-town meaning flavor and abilities are created before alignment rands.

But 'tis a good point

[Eragon]

interesting

[Eragon]

When youre in a neighborhood but not with your best friend

I guess your magic just wasn’t strong enough to challenge me, the Crimsin Demon!
My friend, I have transcended beyond your power!

Real talk though, the president gets to hand pick a hood. Bitmap might have cliques and be able to soul read some of the playlist but I don't think they need a hood to do that.

I think I have the ability to read strongly in a hood setting and hopefully set up a pseudo masonry. I am also extremely hard to pocket, which I think is probably the strongest difference between me and Bitty. No offence.

Promise to put Eragon and I in a neighborhood and you have my vote

~~but yes do this please :^)

[Eragon]

nope I'm too busy watching One Piece from The. Very. Goddamned. Start.

What the fuck is wrong with you

yes

[Eragon]

Bitmap can be scum too.
Both of them both suck.

I can see yume easily being scum

Whats up woth the bit read though, theyve barely talked

Thats the problem!

But there’s a lot of people that have barely talked! Why are you only accusing Bitmap of that!?!

[Eragon]

Ive got to leave back to work but era is in charge

Of course I’m in charge. I’m the strongest Explosion magic magician in the world!

I SWEAR TO DRUNK IM NOT GOD OK

I don’t believe you! > Chunnyibo face squench

Ahem

Greetings everyone! I am Time and you've already met my partner Wonder-chan. I look forward to playing this game with all of you. Let us do our best to take out the bad waifus from this wonderful place.

~Time

LETS KILL THEM ALL!

-Wonder

I have figured out this hydra
Time: “ok here’s my thing and this is what we do and why and how”
Wonder: “REEEEEEEEEEEEE MWHAAHAHHAAH” *stabs*

[Eragon]

Would people be okay with claiming tiers and tiers only?

I don’t think it’s a good idea

If I’m right and it’s a power situation it just gives scum focusing information

[Eragon]

Town doesnt need to know everyones tiers.

Scum would like to know to target high tiers.

Keep your tiers a secret you fools.

Jal knows what’s up :^)

[Eragon]

Also excuse you.

I got plenty magiks.

Just they only work once.

See? I am absolutely superior. All of demeanor, magical power, and likeability.

[Eragon]

For those wondering, this isnt the first waifu game. A few of us played in the last one and can bring knowledge of some of the mechanics from it

If torque kept the same mechanics
And I don’t really want to try to game the system

maybe if it’s important

[Eragon]

I guess that avi works

Your waifu is kawaii desu. You’ll gain 10 town points for that alone. Because cute girls can’t be scum.

Of course I’m town

I don’t know why there was ever discussion about this objective fact

:^)

[Eragon]

I am sorry to have broken expectations but Ichigo was number 2.

Nani

Whichever of Bitmap or Espeonage makes me the better avi gets my vote.

I reserve the right to retract, rescind, or revise this offer as new information, win condition, or personal whim dictates.

Whoever gave you that avi should deserve your vote :^)

cute

[Eragon]

For those wondering, this isnt the first waifu game. A few of us played in the last one and can bring knowledge of some of the mechanics from it

Can you explain? This is my first waifu game so I'm not too familiar.

I would just link the past game but.
It was a shitfest and showed the ugly side of some people at the end

Dear god

This is an understatement

[Eragon]

So post game are we all jumping on a discord and watching all the source materials?

Because I think my waifu is from a criminally underwatched anime.

I chose my waifu to induce nerd rage, personally.

$5 on sakura

Which Sakura

Naruto sakura ew
Other sakura’s not neccesarily ew

[Eragon]

I would just like to take a moment to share the glorious fact that my waifu is described as "Call the FBI" tier.

Howmst the fuck

I would just like to take a moment to share the glorious fact that my waifu is described as "Call the FBI" tier.

Is it fair for me to assume that Bitmap and Espeonage can't be scum together because of this mechanic?

-Y

Probably.

OK. I don't really care about that, you can have my vote.

Bitmap, do you have any objections to that?

-Y

If that's what you feel is the best choice then I have no objections to that.

I don't believe I'm easily pocketable and will my best to make the best mason neighborhood I can make. owo

Did you just copy what the other one said?

[Eragon]

Ahhhhh I forgot the quote system is wacky here

Although it’s actually better than homesite I just have my habits

Which make this site seem wacky

[Eragon]

[quote="In [url=https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p11606177]post 155[/url], NorwegianboyEE"]A game themed on lovable waifus turning into a shitfest. Sounds like fun. Bring out the madness.
[img]https://i.imgur.com/gvUmzf3.gif[/img][/quote]

Please don’t ask

I don’t wanna relive this

[Eragon]

Wow I’m actually a god I destroyed BBcode without having a messed up quote

[Eragon]

A game themed on lovable waifus turning into a shitfest. Sounds like fun. Bring out the madness.

Lets put it this way

I won in a 1v9

And then got permabanned for highly malicious gamethrowing by mods who were in the game

For winning

Then got unbanned Becuase people came to their senses after a couple days*

[Eragon]

pls fix ur bbcode i dont understand what ur trying to say

I don’t even know what’s wrong with it

[Eragon]

Howmst the fuck

Also known as loli tier.

I’m not loli tier and She’s literally 13

[Eragon]

I mean Eras waifu is also loli

This came out wrong, i apologize

Is it wrong

[Eragon]

After seeing some of aquas gifs, i really hope shes older then 13

Literally konosuba in a nutshell

[Eragon]

Howmst the fuck

Also known as loli tier.

I’m not loli tier and She’s literally 13

13 is loli tier

Too bad

[Eragon]

Is on bus and I’m trying to watch One Piece

[Eragon]

Spoiler:

If I get force replaced, you'll know why.

IF I GET FORCE REPLACED, IT WAS FOR THE WAIFUS!

no. This is no. This is not good waifu. This is bad. Only villains do this.

Oh right, this is supposed to be a game of mafia. So right now i've got some light scumpings on Espeonage and Amrun. Tentative townread on Bitmap and Eragon.

Why do you have light scum pings on Esp and Amrum?

Amrun popping in just to immediately claim he has a low tier waifu gave me a bad taste in the mouth.
Espeonage i might just be a bit salty from the way he scumread me as a scum player in a earlier game we played. Also i'm wondering if one of the two student council president nominees might be scum, and his entry seemed way too POLITICAL. While yours was more natural and human. So that's why i'm wary of him.

Did you not see the clear parody I was making with my speech which happened to be even more political?

@norwegian I'm interested in your thoughts on this now, because your towered on bit was because his felt natural/human but bitmap himself is saying it Was supposed to be overtly political (as a joke)

Oh right, this is supposed to be a game of mafia. So right now i've got some light scumpings on Espeonage and Amrun. Tentative townread on Bitmap and Eragon.

Why do you have light scum pings on Esp and Amrum?

Amrun popping in just to immediately claim he has a low tier waifu gave me a bad taste in the mouth.
Espeonage i might just be a bit salty from the way he scumread me as a scum player in a earlier game we played. Also i'm wondering if one of the two student council president nominees might be scum, and his entry seemed way too POLITICAL. While yours was more natural and human. So that's why i'm wary of him.

I think this is outside of norwegian’s scumrange. He is most likely town.


My point was I kind of expected to roll scum with my pick and I did not, so I don’t think alignment is related to waifu.

What do you mean your point?

And i coulda told you that. Last game, Era and I were Ram and Rem, Ram being town and Rem being scum

SISTER! Wait, wrong game
FRIEND!

But i’m CURIOUS!
I’m going to ponder which character he uses as a body pillow for the rest of the game now.

I might have skewed priorities.

False, these are the real important questions. Everything else is pretty much irrelevant compared to this.

[Eragon]

HELLO EVERYBODY LETS PLAY SOME MAFIA WOOOOOOOOOOOT
-WONDER

My interpretation of this Hydra still stands.

VOTE: BITMAP
TO THE GUILLOTINE!

is this an actual scum read or a meme?

im sad cus the role i got basically needs to be claimed on d1
which is the opposite of how i like to play

if anyone needs their tier upgrading, im your girl
HOWEVER, there is a very niche scenario in which is works.
we BOTH must be targeting each other
even then, some abilities wont increase your tier. visitor, for example, i'm told wouldn't work.

this is obviously never going to happen if we dont talk about it
im sure theres a town role out there that i have synergy with
i expect theres a scum one too
so if your role sounds like the counterpart to mine, and you also dont mind revealing that, then reach out to me
otherwise i guess i'll just pick someone at random and state that i'm targeting you and that person can reciprocate if they want i guess

This is sort of the reason why I suggested tier claiming but now I don't know if it's a good idea.

I'd say its definitely not a good idea to mass tier claim. If there's some specific/essential reason to, yes? but other than that its useless to the majority but can be used by the mafia.

OOOOOK

Catching up begins now. I'll try to keep it short. I want to be nice in this game!

are you normally not nice

[Eragon]

Spoiler:

Oh right, this is supposed to be a game of mafia. So right now i've got some light scumpings on Espeonage and Amrun. Tentative townread on Bitmap and Eragon.

Why do you have light scum pings on Esp and Amrum?

Amrun popping in just to immediately claim he has a low tier waifu gave me a bad taste in the mouth.
Espeonage i might just be a bit salty from the way he scumread me as a scum player in a earlier game we played. Also i'm wondering if one of the two student council president nominees might be scum, and his entry seemed way too POLITICAL. While yours was more natural and human. So that's why i'm wary of him.

I think this is outside of norwegian’s scumrange. He is most likely town.


My point was I kind of expected to roll scum with my pick and I did not, so I don’t think alignment is related to waifu.

Oh, interesting. I guess this means you picked a waifu who is associated with evil/darkness/treason? I didn't expect this from you, and i didn't expect that a evil girl would be low-tier. They are usually more powerful than average, i find it weird that the mods would give a powerful girl a low tier, unless she comes from a source i know nothing about.

I don't think actual Waifu POWER is relative to the tier you get, more like the actual Waifu-ness of the Waifu you picked. A good Waifu has better tier, a bad Waifu is lower tier.

A furry Waifu gets furry tier. Trust me. dont be this person

Somewhere in my pm, the phrase “worst girl” appears. That’s all I have to say.

LMFAOO

I have a soft town read on cloud. Hard town read on xtoxm, with the caveat that disloyal is a strong modifier to protect that kind of pr in mass claim.

explain that hard town on Xtoxm please

Esp, what did you think of my speech? I was trying to be very in character.

I liked your speech btw and have no problems if you won the nomination for president. It'll mean I just got screwed over in 2016 and now 2020.

Yeah look there's worse players to have it. But I think you know how strongly I rate myself. You speech was fine. Idk who you are tho.

I've been considering the idea that we could hood each other.

Farks reasoning for picking you bc they know you is exactly what I think is most dangerous.

I have a soft town read on cloud. Hard town read on xtoxm, with the caveat that disloyal is a strong modifier to protect that kind of pr in mass claim.

Uhm... if you read my post on shadowless, how wrong do you think i am from 1 (wrong like 2+2=12e9^x) to 10 (absolutely correct)?

definitely an e^(e^(e^(e)))

[Eragon]

VOTE: shadowlesscloud i will start from here.

Why not. Wagons are good for town.
VOTE: Shadowlesscloud
Post 136 is the type of post scum can make to look pro-town.

what about my post 2 posts later that was on the exact same topic being posted at the same exact time? Is there a difference? Are we both possibly scum making that post to look pro-town?
or is it NAI being that we are the two people who know what Waifu tier actually stands for.

How are people reconciling cloud providing insight in to their deep wolf game willingly with them being scum here. Bc that seems like a hella alpha move and way cocky.

well Jalandh is a cocky little bastard :^) ilu shadow you are a great zoom zoom main

It means it's a town specific role. Don't rolefish.

or a mafia-specific role if Jalandh is mafia and not town*

[Eragon]

Spoiler:

Norway, my argument was that people generally wouldn't willingly go "hey look how great I was deep wolfing this game recently" unless they are town.

I would think you are wrong, that kind of thing is exactly what a deepwolf would do. Deepwolfing is all about twisting your meta, fakeclaiming, etc - it's the pure art of lying with words and actions.

And there's the epeen factor too, which is also part of being a deepwolf tbh. This does not imply a higher scum equity, it just isn't a valid reason to lower it either

edgy speech :^)

Norway, my argument was that people generally wouldn't willingly go "hey look how great I was deep wolfing this game recently" unless they are town.

I would think you are wrong, that kind of thing is exactly what a deepwolf would do. Deepwolfing is all about twisting your meta, fakeclaiming, etc - it's the pure art of lying with words and actions.

And there's the epeen factor too, which is also part of being a deepwolf tbh. This does not imply a higher scum equity, it just isn't a valid reason to lower it either

Ooooo You are not going to like me at all.

Why not? I do not dislike deepwolves. I would describe myself as a prideful powerwolf, when playing scum. Being paired with a deepwolf is the dream of my life.

I like you more already

Yeah small town is a style where the game is balanced in a way that the powers are all relatively equal so it's less swingy. At least with uPick. We have no info if it is one way or another, so I am pretty keen to go you can read in to me and bitty.

I am town reading bitty on some things I probably can't go in to but tonally I like bitty's approach to limelight right now.

btw you down to make Eragon and I a neighborhood plz?

FRIEND! PLEASE!

Korosensei

I don't think it would apply as a waifu

Andwhodecidedthat.png

Korosensei

I don't think it would apply as a waifu

Thats the one you had issue with of the three?

aight.

Why wouldnt they? No gender so you cant say its a male.

And name me someone who cares about others more then koro, even protecting them and nuturing them as much as he has

He also trains his students to have them attempt to assassinate them. Although yes he defends himself without killing them, but still ._.

btw i think bitmap and esp either have to be t/t or s/s.

them being t/s would offset the balance of their roles, and im assuming this is their only ability which would mean the scum gain the advantage here while the town one of them would be pretty weak considering.

that being said i like both to a certain degree so far so t/t is where im sitting

I don't think s/s would make any sense at all

I could see Town/Town or Town/Scum competition, but Scum having a "duel" between each other just seems... kinda weird to me?

So I dont really vibe with that

[Eragon]

Spoiler:

A common question people ask me in mafiascum, life, and just everywhere is "Bitmap why are you like this?".

Bitmap why are you like this?

My waifu is Bernie Sanders.

Not a girl, so it wouldn't have been accepted

-Y

Last game had Bill Clinton

Please don't remind me ;-;

btw i think bitmap and esp either have to be t/t or s/s.

them being t/s would offset the balance of their roles, and im assuming this is their only ability which would mean the scum gain the advantage here while the town one of them would be pretty weak considering.

that being said i like both to a certain degree so far so t/t is where im sitting

I don’t agree with this and think it would be really weird for it to be S/S and don’t see why it has to be T/T.

However, I’m independently TR them.

Farkran, you can ignore my previous question about the small town thing. You answered it later.

S/S is that they are straight up just lying about this all

??? Literally mod announcement in the first post???

I think it will be pretty obvious if its a straight up lie?

[Eragon]

If there is a majority for the student council election before there is a majority for the day's Lynch does the hood happen straight away and is it locked in or still changable?

Does the Student Council have day talk?

If the answer is the election happens whenever that hits majority first and there is day talk, I think it's likely better to do that first as I feel like whoever wins it out of me and bitty likely gets a target on their back.

Student council election votes are finalized at the end of the day.

Doesn’t seem like a lie.

Fake mod announcers are not new to upicks

No...

but no!

Unvote, Vote: Eragon

reasoning?

VOTE: Eragon

They talk a lot but say nothing

-Y

woah its not like I was one of the two people posting for the first 75 posts where there was nothing going on /s /s /s /s

or perhaps I should phrase it like this: What do you expect me to have said during the times that I was here and posting?

VOTE: Eragon

I support this. The first few pages were just fluff posting from Eragon.

reiterate above
and also thats just my playstyle

I focus on having a good time rather than being just hardcore
I meme/laugh/joke/etc... throughout the game
while still playing mafia.
this is as all alignments, and if anything im actually more serious as mafia.}
I don't like meta arguments because I really don't HAVE a meta, especially having not played in a while
but my play style is just really fluid and changing, but one thing that constantly stays is memes

I would just like to question why fluff posting in the first few pages where no one else was talking other than Espeonage is scummy?

[Eragon]

That was an oddly quick succession of votes.

I have no opinion on this wagon.

Who do you think we should vote?

-Y

Did you only vote because Espeonage did?

I almost voted Eragon around post 75, but didn't - Espeonage voting is what prompted me to vote, though.

-Y

what at post 75 "almost" prompted you to vote me?

[Eragon]

As amused as I am by Eragon's recent posting,

I'm fine with the wagon on him. I'm suspicious of this slot for personal reasons and the filler walls aren't helping him for me.

I like my vote. 217 felt very forced and unnecessary from Adorable and the vote was mostly just OMGUS anyway. 356 feels very empty to me. The Xtoxm, Norway, and Bitmap townreads just feel too easy as well. I feel like these players were/are already gaining traction from other players as townreads and the lack of any real suspicion from this slot is concerning.

I'm fine with Bitmap + Espeonage neighborhood. I would like one of Shadow or myself to be included though (preferably me).

<3


what are the "personal reasons" though

[Eragon]

Spoiler:

is this an actual scum read or a meme?

WHAT KIND OF QUESTION IS THIS?

Its me wondering if you were serious or not. the all caps is somewhat difficult to discern the tone of the post

Because everything just looks like screaming. Also im not telling you to stop cuz it actually amuses me.

You didn't give any reasoning to your vote and I saw it odd you voted a player who didn't say anything at the time.

When you vote someone, you need to at least explain why rather than saying nothing.

Normally I tend to scum read a player who doesn't give any reasoning to their votes. Also, I couldn't even tell if this was a serious vote or not.

Fair.

However, your vote on me is the least of my reasons for keeping my vote on you. And my votes are always serious, they just aren't always substantiated by something.

Your avatar is absolutely godtier.

I think the candidates situation is TvS (55%), TvT (44%), SvS (1%), with Espeonage being the S where it applies. At the very least, the decision on a compromise should be held back until later.

Maybe not 1% SvS for me. But i definitely agree the most likely possibilities are TvS and TvT at this point.

Do you think there's a ~moderate chance of SvS? If so, what do you think the reasoning/logic behind an SvS would be, and what would come out of it?

I think the candidates situation is TvS (55%), TvT (44%), SvS (1%), with Espeonage being the S where it applies. At the very least, the decision on a compromise should be held back until later.

Maybe not 1% SvS for me. But i definitely agree the most likely possibilities are TvS and TvT at this point.

RANDOM QUESTION: ARE YOU A VIKING?

this is the realest question lol

@norwegian I'm interested in your thoughts on this now, because your towered on bit was because his felt natural/human but bitmap himself is saying it Was supposed to be overtly political (as a joke)

That's precisely why i said it was more natural/human. Being intentionally political in a joking manner isn't the same ballpark as posting a political comment.

fair enough

what about my post 2 posts later that was on the exact same topic being posted at the same exact time? Is there a difference? Are we both possibly scum making that post to look pro-town?

I sensed a tonal difference at that moment. Your reaction seemed more relaxed and natural.

noted.

Also i think im in a neighborhood by my self?

this is why no one likes Aqua as a character

Seems like a backward justification of a sheep on Eragon.

Well that's what you asked us for, so...

-Y

No, I didn’t ask you to make a poor vote and then half ass a reason to sheep.

Sheeping is fine, or can be. I don’t like how you went about it.

Bitmap’s similar vote didn’t bother me - it’s all in the execution.

I didn’t mind the vote; I was just curious at first. I didn’t like their answer to my question.

I think bitmap sheeping you contextually makes sense and bitmap gave Norwegian a TR for being the only one to not flufflpost in that same timeframe so it’s internally consistent. Even if it’s just a random fluff poster to choochoo - works for now (for me).

This makes no sense to me. I think my vote was obviously much more scummier than YK.

???
Amrun is saying that at least you have consistency behind your vote. Your votes are basically for the same exact reason, so I don't think there's a big discrepancy between the two votes themselves.

Im curious to know why you think your OWN vote was "OBVIOUSLY" more scummy than YK's???

[Eragon]

Spoiler:

YK isn't a bad wagon but it seems the premise for that wagon was their vote on Eragon as the second vote and being scummy while I basically got a free pass for being the third vote seemed pretty bad reasoning overall.

@YK:

Who are you townreading and scumreading atm?

why does third vote/second vote matter as being specifically scummy or not? I don't really think it matters when you get on the wagon.

Yumeko hydra can you engage with us.
That goes for Adorable as well tbh.

who is this US you mention. HRMMMMM /s

I HAVE MY READS BUT HONESTLY, I DON'T THINK THEY EVEN LIKE, ADD ANYTHING.
LIKE ITS NOTHING REALLY NEW
I WANT TO KILL ADORABLE, BITMAP, AND Y & K HYDRA
I LEGIT HAVE NO OPINION ON ESPE OR SHADOWLESS ATM. I THINK GIVING A READ ON THESE PEOPLE WOULD BE DISHONEST

AMRUN AND BRAIN SKIES ARE SUPER TOWN
FAKRAN IS SUPER TOWN
NORWEGAIN IS PROBABLY TOWN
XTOXM IS MAYBE TOWN PROBABLY WHO FUCKING KNOWS HONESTLY HE SEEMS TOWN BUT I SHOULD PROBABLY GIVE HIM MORE CREDIT

ALSO I'M KIND OF HAVING TROUBLE PARSING THROUGH ERAGON'S POSTS. LUCKILY, TIME IS BETTER THEN ME AT THAT (AND ACTUALLY EVERYTHING)

VOTE: ADORABLE
-WONDER

Can you elaborate on your reads here? You asked me to elaborate on my town read during my absence and over here you're also not elaborating on your reads.

~noting this incase I want to go back to it at some point. I have a thought or two but I don't really have it fleshed out yet. ignore.~

I think our vote is in a wonderful spot at the moment! I also feel good calling Adorable a good waifu. Our reads are coming together well. Keep going team!

~Time

can you expand on the adorable read

I advise that Brian and Espeonage move to another wagon! While Adorable certainly is focused on one target I can't help but tell they're two good waifus going after each other. Poor things. With our powers combined, we can defeat the evil that lurks within our group!

pedit: I agree! I must admit I do not townread Amrun quite as hard as the others, but they're still towny regardless!

~Time

Im unsure whether its simply the tonal flavor or not, I dislike the initial spot of simply "advising" other people to move to another wagon because they townread adorable (which afaik has not been explained)

Also what makes you think that Brian and adorable are "two good waifs (town) going after each other?"

This is gonna look terrible for me if YandK flips scum. But I really don't see their vote as an issue.

Like, I spent a good half hour debating who to vote after Eragon bc Adorable felt too convenient while Norway is annoyed at me already and I didn't want to fan the flames, and I have an agenda to be town read with the election.

It may bc I lie more as town than as scum and care more about being town read as town than as scum, but I legit feel like the one liner added to the 'case' and was a fine vote, especially for the game state.

Is it bad that I think this is towny for basically just expressing that they do literally have an agenda right now.
I ?think? scum would be slightly more careful about saying something similar to this

This is gonna look terrible for me if YandK flips scum. But I really don't see their vote as an issue.

Like, I spent a good half hour debating who to vote after Eragon bc Adorable felt too convenient while Norway is annoyed at me already and I didn't want to fan the flames, and I have an agenda to be town read with the election.

It may bc I lie more as town than as scum and care more about being town read as town than as scum, but I legit feel like the one liner added to the 'case' and was a fine vote, especially for the game state.

It’s not about the vote. The one liner was fine (and accurate).

I don’t know how to say in many more creative ways that I don’t mind the vote.

That’s why I don’t scumread Bitmap for it. Starting a wagon just to start one is actually 100% fine for this gamestate. It’s not about the vote! It’s about me realizing that they’re appearance concerned.

I like Amrun's consistency and, while I wouldn't really call it confidence, like their commitment to their read on the votes strikes me as + town

[Eragon]

Your avi amuses me much more than it should

-K

Rin is the best character in Kakegurui

[Eragon]

Sure, I might be thrown off because I feel like their play here is a lot fluffier here than in the newbie where I was just reading their iso. But I also just wasn't particularly townpinged by their posts which in 58 is a little surprising. Sometimes people just get townier as they go on though so you may be right but I'm not seeing it rn

I kinda feel like the slot I actually like least might be Shireen given I forgot she was in the game, but that's not really a slot I want to vote unless I'm ready to end day on it

-K

???
The last newbie I played in was like over a year ago minimum

also what about Shireen not being here because of thread issues make you dislike the slot?

I'm actually not a huge fan of Shadow. He posts a lot but it's mostly just noise.

Espeonage, why was/is this slot your main candidate for neighboring?

Still feel good about the slot overall. There is an element of potentially trying to bend my hood partners to my will in a pseudo town bloc to alleviate any issues with potentially having scum in the hood.

My two trains of thought atm is either cloud/eragon or you/bitmap. One for bloc-ness and the other for mass game solve.

Yes please neighborhood me and Shadow I want to meme on him as the superior waifu lordess.

lol radiologist changed their mind, apparently I did manage to break a bone

rip

anyway here's the newbie game --
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... er_sort=Go

-K

Yeah there's multiple problems with this game.
1) It was literally over a year and a half ago.
2) I replaced in either late D1 or D2 (I forget?) and during a time when the focus of people was on my slot
3) yeah ok thats pretty much it the game is like, 1.0% representative of my meta
4) also it appears you didnt read my post where I said that meta reading me is lol because I kinda just do whatever I want when I want as any alignment. I could show you a scum game that looks almost exactly like the game you pulled up. I could show you a town game I just slanked out of. I could show you a scum game I slanked out of. I could show you a scum game where I tryharded, same as town. Same goes for a meme game/trolls.

How did you even find this game? And why do you think the "meta" from that game is in any way representative of my current play???

[Eragon]

Seems like a backward justification of a sheep on Eragon.

Well that's what you asked us for, so...

-Y

No, I didn’t ask you to make a poor vote and then half ass a reason to sheep.

Sheeping is fine, or can be. I don’t like how you went about it.

Bitmap’s similar vote didn’t bother me - it’s all in the execution.

I didn’t mind the vote; I was just curious at first. I didn’t like their answer to my question.

I think bitmap sheeping you contextually makes sense and bitmap gave Norwegian a TR for being the only one to not flufflpost in that same timeframe so it’s internally consistent. Even if it’s just a random fluff poster to choochoo - works for now (for me).

This makes no sense to me. I think my vote was obviously much more scummier than YK.

???
Amrun is saying that at least you have consistency behind your vote. Your votes are basically for the same exact reason, so I don't think there's a big discrepancy between the two votes themselves.

Im curious to know why you think your OWN vote was "OBVIOUSLY" more scummy than YK's???

Because I didn't understand Amrun's position towards YK and my vote was a later piggyback. As far as I saw it, it was just another vote on a new wagon starting which is why I kept asking Amrun for clarification and I had to re-ISO YK to understand where Amrun was coming from.

why is another vote on a new wagon thats just starting to grow bad? It puts pressure on the person being wagoned (in this case me) and could possibly cause a telling reaction if the pressure continues long enough.

Each vote adds more pressure to the wagon, even if its still early game.

So I just dont really understand why you think your vote was scummy/ier

[Eragon]

That's just the game I most remember from you, we played in some marathons too but I think those reflect real games less

Anyway meta isn't really my main concern, more just don't see town yet

-K

I don't really care how much you are using the meta

I just don't understand why you think its even remotely viable to be used to look at my current play
with very few similar circumstances with that game

[Eragon]

what

[Eragon]

You're saying the only game I have read of yours isn't applicable so I'm wondering what you think relevant games would be?

-K

personally? I'd say no games.

logically, if you want to read games look for something more recent like maximum of 6 months previously. People's meta change greatly over time and there are so many things different about that game than this game that specifically are not representative of normal play. I've already mentioned multiple reasons why.

if you really want to look for meta, I can go pull some up that are more likely to actually symbolize my gameplay now, even if I do disagree with meta on a personal basis

[Eragon]

Maybe but if so why is he arguing that game specifically is unrepresentative? I don't usually see a game under 2 years old as 'outdated' tbh so it feels off to pushback on that so much if you're gonna argue 'no meta at all'

I was only saying it was concerning his solving hadn't townpinged yet when it has in the past, so him acting like I'm making a more serious push, and spinning my concern as meta-based, seems kinda scummy

-K

Overall I don't think meta is great. But even more than regular games that one is just
1) outdated
2) under separate circumstances

and just others things that make it completely different from this game

and the fact that you are even bringing up that my current game is "different" from that other game feels reachy because, how can you compare a game of someone REPLACING IN to a slot that has been receiving pressure to a slot that starts the game from post 1? Theres really no comparison here at all.

The idea itself just feels underdeveloped and ill thought

you can't really say that you are not using the game as an argument either

I might be thrown off because I feel like their play here is a lot fluffier here than in the newbie where I was just reading their iso

directly comparing it to that game

I understand that its not a major point in your ?argument? but even so the POINT is there

I also dont understand how you think im overblowing this and making it seem like your push is SERIOUS

I don't really care how much you are using the meta

and if your concern isnt meta-based, then what is the concern? That I haven't been posting towny content? Is that a concern? Or is that something that means im not a townread. Not posting townily /=/ posting scumilly

[Eragon]

Maybe but if so why is he arguing that game specifically is unrepresentative? I don't usually see a game under 2 years old as 'outdated' tbh so it feels off to pushback on that so much if you're gonna argue 'no meta at all'

I was only saying it was concerning his solving hadn't townpinged yet when it has in the past,

so him acting like I'm making a more serious push, and spinning my concern as meta-based, seems kinda scummy

-K

btw this is a direct reference to meta

so

your concern literally is meta based lmfao

[Eragon]

My concern now is you seem more like high wim scum than town

I referenced meta insofar as I know you are capable, as town, of being townie

Which so far this game I wasn't seeing, and now see a reactionary overreaction and selective interpretation of my point rather than showcasing some townie solving

-K

woah I posted Townily in a game that I replaced into late Day 1 or Day 2 so that means I always post Townily as town. AMAZING OBSERVATION!

Also as a matter of fact I wasn't posting as townily as you make it out to be during that game, given by the fact I was literally the secondary scum candidate in ?F-4? was it?
and had to continuously defend myself in that game.


what part of my response is SELECTIVE INTERPRETATION of your point?

[Eragon]

Also i think im in a neighborhood by my self?

this is why no one likes Aqua as a character

Yes please neighborhood me and Shadow I want to meme on him as the superior waifu lordess.

Why aren't

you

in that neighborhood?

hell if I know tbh

[Eragon]

Also i think im in a neighborhood by my self?

this is why no one likes Aqua as a character

Yes please neighborhood me and Shadow I want to meme on him as the superior waifu lordess.

Why aren't

you

in that neighborhood?

hell if I know tbh

actually I probably know why but its not relevant to this game

[Eragon]

Also i think im in a neighborhood by my self?

this is why no one likes Aqua as a character

Yes please neighborhood me and Shadow I want to meme on him as the superior waifu lordess.

Why aren't

you

in that neighborhood?

hell if I know tbh

actually I probably know why but its not relevant to this game

???

lets uh
not get into this

please

[Eragon]

Maybe but if so why is he arguing that game specifically is unrepresentative? I don't usually see a game under 2 years old as 'outdated' tbh so it feels off to pushback on that so much if you're gonna argue 'no meta at all'

I was only saying it was concerning his solving hadn't townpinged yet when it has in the past

, so him acting like I'm making a more serious push, and spinning my concern as meta-based, seems kinda scummy

-K

what part of my response is SELECTIVE INTERPRETATION of your point?

you've basically exclusively focused on meta when my baseline point was "you seem to be posting a lot but not making a lot of content readable as town" and now I feel like you're making some content that is at least slightly scummy. I don't see you writing the posts in the last two pages in the way that you do as town tbh

-K

so you're saying that the bolded and enlarged isnt your baseline point?

then why is that what you're saying "I was only saying... and him spinning my concern as meta-based is scummy"

the "baseline" concern that I saw from you IS the meta base

WHEN IT HAS IN THE PAST

^This is literally a direct representation of meta. You are referencing previous games and comparing how you see my posts in this game to how you saw my posts in the other games.

which is inconsistent with what you are NOW saying, that you never really cared about meta and its the fact that im not making content. Which also isnt even a baseline point for a good scum read because the time I was making 0 content was literally posts 0-75, but ive already gone over that.

Is your push based on meta or not?
If not: Your push is inconsistent with what you have been putting in thread, and there is really no logical backing that you have in the push, as the only point before now would be me not posting content from posts 0-75

If it is: Your push is consistent, but the logic behind it is fallible because the sole game you are basing it off of is not truly representative of the posts.

additionally, even in your most recent point
"I don't see you writing the posts... in the way that you do as town tbh"

THIS IS META. YOU HAVE A BASELINE PLAYSTYLE THAT YOU ARE BASING CURRENT POSTS OFF OF.

THIS ISNT MAKING A READ IN A VACUUM

Are you saying that your read on me isn't based on meta? I'd like to see your evidence and what you have that you think makes me look scummy outside of ANYTHING relating to previous games or interpretations of playstyle.

focus simply on the posts IN THIS GAME, do not relate the posts to PREVIOUS INTEPRETATIONS.

thats what not using meta is.

the only thing that you have had before this most recent thing about me is that I didn't post content between 0-75
yes, this isn't meta. But its also irrelevant.

So if you aren't basing my read on meta, WHAT are you basing it on?

[Eragon]

VOTE: Eragon

They talk a lot but say nothing

-Y

not meta, but also irrelevant at the point

That was an oddly quick succession of votes.

I have no opinion on this wagon.

Who do you think we should vote?

-Y

Did you only vote because Espeonage did?

I almost voted Eragon around post 75, but didn't - Espeonage voting is what prompted me to vote, though.

-Y

above

Sure, I might be thrown off because I feel like their play here is a lot fluffier here than in the newbie where I was just reading their iso. But I also just wasn't particularly townpinged by their posts which in 58 is a little surprising. Sometimes people just get townier as they go on though so you may be right but I'm not seeing it rn

I kinda feel like the slot I actually like least might be Shireen given I forgot she was in the game, but that's not really a slot I want to vote unless I'm ready to end day on it

-K

meta-based

Maybe but if so why is he arguing that game specifically is unrepresentative? I don't usually see a game under 2 years old as 'outdated' tbh so it feels off to pushback on that so much if you're gonna argue 'no meta at all'

I was only saying it was concerning his solving hadn't townpinged yet when it has in the past, so him acting like I'm making a more serious push, and spinning my concern as meta-based, seems kinda scummy

-K

meta based

That's just the game I most remember from you, we played in some marathons too but I think those reflect real games less

Anyway meta isn't really my main concern, more just don't see town yet

-K

doesn't contribute to a scum read at all. not seeing town /=/ scum.

so im interested where you think im overreacting to you saying that your read isnt metabased.

because quite frankly. nothing here is actually scum!indicative except for the meta part, if you take the meta as valid and logical.

[Eragon]

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... er_sort=Go

were you wind or chaos in this game?

-K

chaos

[Eragon]

and case in point

that game is 0.0% like the newbie game that you previously quoted.

Meta's CHANGE and EVOLVE over time.

so do PEOPLE, and HABITS

[Eragon]

and case in point

that game is 0.0% like the newbie game that you previously quoted.

Meta's CHANGE and EVOLVE over time.

so do PEOPLE, and HABITS

oh wait

I just realized I was mafia that game

lmfaooo

[Eragon]

I knew I had some other games with you just couldn't remember where they were

I remember your iso there feeling kinda blah but active which is kinda how I was feeling about you here

so yeah meta does shape my basic expectations for your play; marathon games play a part, that newbie from a year ago that I read pretty closely, and then the scum game where I didn't really remember that well because that game sucked butt but I was feeling like I felt you were kinda spicier as town and here you've been lacking spice

I also was considering moving to Shireen or thinking about reassessing so you blowing up this meta point just seems overly concerned with how my slot is perceiving you. But now that I think about it I do think this is closer to your scumgame than your towngame, although it seems like you don't care about meta which doesn't make it clear to me why you're flipping out over me having you as null-scum in a game with a fair number of townie slots

-K

thats literally the opposite take of my posting in that game
???
I had like a total of 10 posts or something throughout all of my lifespan
10 of which were memes :^)

meta as expectation for play only works if its recent and valid. And even then meta just isnt good on some people unless there is a history of being consistent.


Frankly, I don't care what you're considering scum reading/townreading/moving votes
Im just trying to shut down meta reads that have no realistic value to reading my slot.

it doesn't matter the strength of the read or the read itself, just meta in itself is bad unless its proven consistent imo

[Eragon]

and I still dont understand you thinking I was active that game

nani

[Eragon]

you want to see a strong scum game of mine?
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=78246
how about another?
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=79138
town?
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=54&t=78486

im doing this to prove a point
that my meta is unreliable and is rarely the same game to game
2 of these are older games, but are games where I was in the game early Day 1

[Eragon]

I have more

but these should be enough to prove my point

[Eragon]

Would you say you don't like playing scum?

-K

I would say that I like the challenge and the glory of winning

I would also say that I get stressed out, which causes me to revert to lots of memes

I would also say that I get stressed out as town when things happen, but im generally more relaxed as town if I feel the game state can sustain it.

If I had to make a direct choice, I would choose town simply because there is less pressure, and I can relax slightly more.
But really im fine with either

[Eragon]

gambling on the master of gambling...

please Kirari.

Just step down already

[Eragon]

Meanwhile it has somehow reached 11:00 PM without me realizing it

Fun times

[Eragon]

Be around more tomorrow


busy couple of days

[Eragon]

Spoiler:

Adorable, you have only elaborated your scumread of brian skies. What about your other reads? I see we agree about some of our reads, perhaps including brian himself, but i'd like to hear your perspective on the other names you mentioned.

Xtoxm - He said the role he got basically needs to be claimed saying if anyone needs their tier upgrading are to visit him and he also said even then, some abilities won't increase tier visitor for example, he's told wouldn't work. The claim looks really ballsy and I doubt scum would make a claim like this on day 1.

Norway - I liked his early scum hunting and this was when most of the pages were fluff at the time. He said he had early scum pings on Espeonage and Amrun. A few posts later he said maybe Espeonage is town and that looked like town who was trying to figure out Espeonage's alignment.

Bitmap - When I read through his iso his play looked town. I liked how he was interacting with players and #252 the reads looked genuine.

This is a good post from Adorable.

I don't really see why this is a great post? Its just standard baseline reads, and pretty safe at that.

Xtoxm, do you have any reads based on what happened so far?

yeah i have a few stealth alt reads

kirari - krazy
shireen - joan/yume
wonder - alisae maybe?

so who does that leave, yumeko and time? hmmmm
i should have stealth alted in this game too

this should die tbh
I don't like a troll response to an actual question especially one that is just bitchy tbh

im not giving reads today outside of expressing who i support lynching
ive towned my slot sufficiently by claiming, there is no need for me to do more and im already at a >rand chance of being instakilled n1
since ive already fullclaimed, wagoning me does nothing. its either:
- busywork to look like you're doing something
- a direct attempt to delete a moderate to high threat to scum on d1
both are extremely scum motivated

Literally thinking a claim will get you locktown...
you claimed a very circumstantial role that simply upgrades waifu tier if you and the person you target visit each other.

this isnt "a moderate to high threat to scum"

and pushing you without regards to your claim is really not scum motivated if you are scum

Eeeek! L-let's calm down everyone. I'm sure we can get along j-just fine. Now I'm gonna go back and answer some questions that were directed at me. Let us be polite and courteous. Bickering between each other shall not solve our quarrel

~Time

This doesn't feel natural to me, im really torn on the slot because I like the Wonder part but a lot of Time's posts have felt weird.

I WANNA SHOUT TOO!!!!

CAN WE GET A WAGON GOING? LYNCH SCUM! LYNCH SCUM!

I ALSO WANNA SHOUT LOUD AND CAST EXPLOSION!!!

hav u played with scum shireen?

who is better lunch?

-k

Which one tastes better?

The best lunch is a nice meal at the guild tavern

Gee, i sure love me some DEAD slots in a mafia game.

God is dead and we have killed him

Your push on Shireen looks bad in timing considering where we’re at. It’s a really easy and boring vote. "Hey let’s lynch the random lurker guys!" (Said the person scumread and voted by 4 different people.)
And how you kinda gave up on Eragon too was bleh.

i read the games he linked

he could be scum but he doesn't favor real time interaction as scum

and I have almost everyone else either as town or yumeko does

so its probably shireen + 2

shireen is not a 'random' lurker, she is the lurker I have flipped as scum more than any other lurker

-k

IF you read the 9:12 game I linked, I actually was involved in a fair amount of RTI after my initial catchup, specifically with slaxx

Brian, why are you voting xtoxm?

I have too many townreads. If Adorable isn't scum, and I'm to trust Espy on Eragon (I do think he might be town off of play, I just suspect him based on flavor), then I don't have enough space in my reads to be giving free towncred to Xtoxm for his claim (I don't subscribe to that school of thought anyway). I also don't think his claim is that townish to begin with since it seems like a way for scum to draw out visiting town roles and so far the only thing resembling an fos from that slot is the lazy shoutout against Shireen for not having posted yet (to which we already know the major reason that hasn't happened yet and nothing new has come from this slot except stating he should be townread for having fullclaimed and yet I don't see a flavor or really anything and I wouldn't townread him for that anyway; like he felt the need to claim a rejected flavor pick and not his real one, what?). Even if he has the role he's claiming to have, there are only two roles I'd treat as town based on claim and they're mod-confirmed.

I'm not really interested in a Shireen lynch right now. It's a toss-up and gives me almost no information either way. It's possible she just hasn't gotten around to catching up in this game (it's still early and we're already up to page 31). Like even I'm really only here right now because I just got back from work and I'm too cold to sleep.

Are you in a hood with shadowless? Otherwise, what makes you think that being in a hood gives you higher qualifications to join the student council hood over other players who already claimed being in a hood?

Yes, I'm Shadow's neighbor. At first I ignored the neighborhood because I just wanted to post in the game and sleep (athough there's no guarantee I would have posted in there today anyway).

It's not like I have anything I'd share with Shadow today that I wouldn't just post in the main game thread.

I was curious to see if Eragon was in my neighborhood and wanted to see how Eragon+Shadow played out, and to see if Shadow could pick up that I was his neighbor without posting in there.

Who else already claimed to be in a hood? As far as I see it, neighborizing me or Shadow is a good way to link both hoods and I'd obviously rather it be me than him, especially since he's already admitted to having fed town false information as scum before.

Nani falvor read

also im not in ur neighborhood


the bolded is towny imo

I SMOKE
WAY TOO MUCH WEED
YES
I MEAN SCUM
THANK YOU

Hi alisae

So what, is it just
Farkran, Norway, Bitmap, Adorable
Amrun Eragon
Espe, Shadowless
Xtoxm
Shireen
Yumeko, Brain Skies

I think that is very possibly game unless Brain Skies flips town.

I think I mostly agree with this take except I might move shadow and Brian up and adorable slightly down

why do you townread Adorable so highly?

I also don't think his claim is that townish to begin with since it seems like a way for scum to draw out visiting town roles

follow this logical train of thought for more than 2 seconds, schmuck
what happens when i cant prove the role exists?
as scum, i have precluded myself from endgaming, immediately at the start of d1
why do i do this as scum?

if the role ive claimed is real, and town aligned, hypothetically, then do you agree that it needs to be claimed to get any value out of it?
do you think pissing in the dark and hoping we hit each other is a better way to play my role?

Hi, can you play the game?

i am playing i just havent gone in depth in reads.
mechanics is also a big part of games and the part that interest me more actually
but fine if you really want reads

1. Bitmap - since the shouting match with ali i leaning village idiot more than scum
2. Farkran - i feel like everything hes offered is 'safe' and hes also someone im expecting to have a wide scumrange based on reputation i cant tr this yet
3. shadowlesscloud - i dont tr
4. Amrun - i dont tr, there was a post about "choo choo" for a wagon that i felt was pretty out of the place at the time and pinged me but eh.
5. Wondertime - seems pretty in line with town ali from what ive seen ARE YOU HAPPY NOW YOU MADE ME GIVE READS ENJOY THE +CHANCE OF EARLY NK
7. NorwegianboyEE - leaning town
8. Espeonage - decent start but he seems to have faded quite hard, which could be concerning
9. Eragon - feels pretty townie tbh, liked his back and forth with YK
10. Yumeko and Kirari - i dont know really but he claimed what sounds like the other part of my puzzle piece and i want to put them together and now that he clarified his role is a night action i kinda this this is town on setup spec but would def need to wait for massclaim to be confident to see how many slots my role actually has synergy with
11. Adorable - i like how she reacted to pressure and didnt think her first 5 posts that got her wagoned were sus in the first place, fairly solid town tbh
12. Brian Skies - honestly if hes gonna be ignoring mechanics then i think hes a liability so id be happy to lynch this
13. Shireen Baratheon - this is the true poe lynch, if people have too many townreads i am never the choice here

overall this game seems to have a bunch of high presence wordy people but im not ~feeling~ like this is a game being led by town, i think there 1-2 scum in the high presence crew that would be hard to catch, possibly with someone like shireen as a third

You don't have a single scum read except saying you'd be happy to Lynch Brian because he scum reads you

[Eragon]

VOTE: Xtoxm

[Eragon]

Spoiler:

{Bitmap, Farkran, Norway, Adorable} Me + Time agree on these being town
{Amrun, Brain Skiies} I townread, Time's townread isn't as strong as mine
{Eragon} Time townreads, I have no read
{Shadowlesscloud, Espe, xtoxm} no read, probably town, but no thought was put into getting reads here.
{Shireen} No opinion
{Yume} Scum

Thanks

Why did you place Amrun and Brian high there? What does Time have to say about them? More specifically, i know we have already talked a about them, but i guess it's time to elaborate things better.

Amrun isn't particularly disagreeing with my reads, but is doing so for the wrong reasons. This could be just a playstyle clash, or indicative of something fishy. Do you agree on the reasons why Amrun has been pushing yumeko? Do you think that Yumeko vote on Eragon was scummy? What would you say about post 367 compared to the future Amrun ISO (i.e. 597 mostly)?

About Brian, do you think it was good practice for him to join a xtoxm counterwagon instead of yumeko? Especially as a followup to 532?

Besides the 2nd tier, most other reads match mine. What does Time have to say about Eragon?

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh


I don’t think the Yumeko vote on Eragon was scummy either!


AhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhghhghhsuqowolNxbaka

*pets*

follow this logical train of thought for more than 2 seconds, schmuck
what happens when i cant prove the role exists?
as scum, i have precluded myself from endgaming, immediately at the start of d1
why do i do this as scum?

if the role ive claimed is real, and town aligned, hypothetically, then do you agree that it needs to be claimed to get any value out of it?
do you think pissing in the dark and hoping we hit each other is a better way to play my role?

Is it valid if i townread someone just for the genuine irritation that can be read from this quote?

I don't think so because Xtoxm hasn't really done anything except try to clear himself as town from his own claim

its like

"oh wow I claimed this role and now im lock town"

... no

"13. Shireen Baratheon - this is the true poe lynch, if people have too many townreads i am never the choice here"

Who reckons this is a slip and he forgot to edit his personal scumdoc?

I don't see this as a slip at all and I think this is hella reachy but I also think Xtoxm is scum so idk

Eh.
That’s weak.


I don’t think scum claims that role when/how Xtoxm does.

????????????

Eh.
That’s weak.


I don’t think scum claims that role when/how Xtoxm does.

is it bad I don't care about xtoxm's role?
becuase I rly could not care about it

mood

I concur that this game sounds too easy.

At this point in time i'd ship a Brian/Yumeko/Espeonage solve. Longing to see how wrong i am. I really dislike the interactions of all those three slots. Espeonage in particular i don't understand why he chose to backup his vote on xtoxm with weak reasoning. Once again it strikes me as a wild need to give momentum to a counterwagon to yumeko. This may point to Brian either being town or playing tandem with espeonage. I agree that Brian is never the first lynch among the suspicious people today, but he should also stay away from any future hood and i don't see how he could ask to join one when he isn't making use of his

current

hood.

what's ur take on Brian?

"13. Shireen Baratheon - this is the true poe lynch, if people have too many townreads i am never the choice here"

Who reckons this is a slip and he forgot to edit his personal scumdoc?

Not me.

Explain?

Why is town talking about their ability to not be lynch based on someone being around?

Like what town says if people are townreading a lot, that means I am safe from being lynched. What town thinks like that?

The answer is town don't. But scum sure do.

Do you think scum!xtoxm really produces a complete readlist from his scum pov, which is fully consistent with a town pov except for the last line? If you produce a fake readlist as scum, you don't use your scum pov to create reads. If you have independent notes as to who to lynch/kill/bring to lylo, you don't copy them in your fake readlist. It's counterintuitive to begin with, and it would be extremely stupid not to check your post before submitting if you do anything of the sort.

It would be way more plausible that xtoxm was commenting on people who claimed to have too many townreads and reacting to the wagon forming against himself, there's pretty much no world where this is a true scumslip.

This push doesn't make sense and it still seems to me that this comes from a wild need to create confusion/push a counterwagon that already had enough momentum to be viable.

People who have meta experience with espeonage, does he do this as town?

Bro the realist literally didn't have a single scumread
unless im horribly misreading Xtoxm hasn't done anything and is just coasting along while trying to get lock town from his claim

well if you guys are insistent on this lynch, then i'll target one of these 5 players:
shadowlesscloud
Amrun
Wondertime
Eragon
Adorable

i'll roll a dice or something

don't target me

VOTE: Wondertime

-K

???
explain this take

[Eragon]

is it bad I think TSE might be town because I dont think scum!TSE would sheep Scum!Yumeko in such a way immediately following a replace in and having not read the thread at all

[Eragon]

oh but then the Y&K vote

meh


idk

[Eragon]

Spoiler:

If Y&K Flip Scum.
I can tell you one of Farkan - Amrun bussed them.

TVS.

setting up for a possible town Lynch, while also getting mild cred for being on a wagon if Y&K flip scum

No, wait for a claim. Please don’t be so antitown.

look, if im only gonna half participate in this

let me have some fun atleast

No.

oof

WAIT

WHAT IF I NEED TO BE UPGRADED TO GET A NEIGHBORHOOD PARTNER

doubtful

Yeah I think there's at most one scum on us right now and it could be an all town wagon pretty easily

-K

Hot take, if this is scum then they are being bussed hard

I mean maybe but I like the wagon mostly uwu

Those were the reasons I scum read Brian. I saw some players town reading him and can anyone walk me through the town read? Am I going the wrong direction?

I don't think you are going in the wrong direction, but do you accept other people's previous scumread of you based on their reasoning? Is it just Brian that pinged you?

Brian's read on me looked wolfy and I've pretty much explained. Bitmap and Espeonage's vote on me were also strange. Espeonage said I didn't vote Brian and I voted him on page 9 and I start to wonder does he not remember I voted?

???
People can forgot things. Both town and scum. Its fully NAI imo

WAIT BRIAN IS MY NEIGHBOR

yes

[Eragon]

apparently all the useless Konosuba scrubs got placed in a neighborhood, while I, the great Megumin, will not be associated with those weaklings!

[Eragon]

apparently all the useless Konosuba scrubs got placed in a neighborhood, while I, the great Megumin, will not be associated with those weaklings!

Join the club brother. We have higher standards you and i.

Quite so!

[Eragon]

welp

[Eragon]

can I leave the thread again please

[Eragon]

Inb4 eragon exploded on xtorm last night, amrun was checking them and xtorm is immune to nks or something

I would not be in game thread again

Baka

[Eragon]

Yeah I’m pretty sure night 1 I killed bitmap while they are visiting Espeonage to neoghborize them

What makes me think this specifically is that Bitmap said they would neighborize wondertime and Espeonage,but Farkran ended up being neighborized instead of wondertime


This makes me think mafia was planning on nightkilling Wondertime all along

This also means that wonder probably chose doctor thing and protected Farkran from TSE’s shot

[Eragon]

OMFG I CLOSED THE TAB AND REALIZED

BY USING MY ABILITY
.IM NOW USELESS

IVE BEEN MEMED ON AND DIDNT EVEN PIECE IT TOGETHER

There weren’t Even 2 kills now that we know your ability doesn’t actually let wondertime live past nightphase if I’m understanding correctly


Also if I’m making a tinfoil I’d assume mafia either
1) checked Amrun with like a mafia rolecop or something,
2) Had amrun as really strong town

I’d assume #1

Which quite honestly fits with Xtoxm’s possible claim

so

[Eragon]

oh I c what you mean now lel

damn now its confusing again

[Eragon]

VOTE: Xtoxm

I don't think I can move past this being scum for now

[Eragon]

imo we go Xtoxm and then one of adorable/Brian/Shadow (I feel Brian -> adorable -> shadow)

[Eragon]

Are you a konosuba hood?

Wrt the bolded, Espeonage wanted Shadowless in the student council hood. What's your read of espeonage?

Yes, I'm in a Konosuba hood. It's not confirmed to me who has access, so it doesn't surprise me that Shadow didn't know I was his neighbor (I only knew because he's been posting in there).

I think Espeonage is town. I have other stronger townreads, but I'm not really that concerned about him right now.

Eragon do you have any thoughts on the last day where you were mute?

[Eragon]

/oh yeah reason I was quoting that

at first I liked Brian's idea about a hood, he saw "no reason" to be posting in a hood
I view this to be towny because he's basically saying, "nothing I say needs to be hidden"
it just views as really really towny

however, what Farkran brought up and made me change my thoughts:
Brian was ASKING to be neighbored by Bitmap/espeo.

So at the same time of not using his current hood, and finding no reason to type in the hood, he is also asking to be in another, different hood.

I just think the overall progression doesn't make sense

[Eragon]

UNVOTE: Xtoxm

think L-1 is pretty high for this early

[Eragon]

think L-1 is pretty high for this early

Spoiler:

[Eragon]

VOTE: Xtoxm

oops my finger slipped

[Eragon]

honestly that works out

Im like

pretty confident that Brian is town as of Farkran's death

[Eragon]

actually day 1 ended up being useless information. Farkran learned that the role list was full of anime girls, which turned out to be a lie.

Day 2 Farkran learned that the scum has tiers of S, A, C, but this is a lie as well, so I don't think there's much to go from here (although I do believe it confirms a 3-man mafia team)


HOWEVER

Day 3, Farkran learned that there is NO TOWN WAIFU that can survive death
BUT, as this MUST be a lie

then there WOULD be a town waifu who can survive death

as Brian can survive death, and no one else has claimed so

then I believe Brian to be town.

This leaves the last scum to be either adorable or Shadowless imo

[Eragon]

I don't believe Norwee flips scum here

you can yell at me if im wrong

Farkran agreed with me mostly, and believed the solve to be Brian -> Shadowless with a backup of Adorable

Shadow!scum also explains the nightkill issues, as this is how every night so far would have gone

N1: Mafia kills wondertime, I kill Espeonage and bitmap b/c bitmap visited Espeonage - confirmed by Farkran not dying to TSE's vigilante shot, both of them flipping town, so Wonder had to have protected Farkran.
N2: Shadow so-called "revived" Wondertime, but his ability killed wonder as well, or Shadow never had a revive in the first place, then mafia killed Amrun regularly
N3: Mafia kills Farkran

[Eragon]

I don't think there's a way we lose this as long as we Lynch either Shadow -> Adorable or Adorable -> shadow

we have 2 lynches left for scum
Brian is confirmed town at this point IME
so its just between shadow, adorable, and norwee for the last, being able to kill 2 of them

and from me and Farkran together, our reads definitely lean towards Norwee as being the clear town there
Fark scum read shadow more and I scum read adorable more

[Eragon]

If i was scum, why would i risk reviving the bodyguard over claiming a different ability that cant be confirmed easily and just letting bernie upgrade me?

...

because it wasn't a real revive???

[Eragon]

and because generally revives are seen as "towny"

and it was a good way to soft your role

and gain "towncred"

even if they did end up dying

[Eragon]

also bernie was ded

[Eragon]

I don't think there's a way we lose this as long as we Lynch either Shadow -> Adorable or Adorable -> shadow

we have 2 lynches left for scum
Brian is confirmed town at this point IME
so its just between shadow, adorable, and norwee for the last, being able to kill 2 of them

and from me and Farkran together, our reads definitely lean towards Norwee as being the clear town there
Fark scum read shadow more and I scum read adorable more

On one hand you have a good point but this is gonna end up being like the one tos game and then im gonna feel shitty for not being around d1 posting more *again*

???

why do you think you dying is literally the end of the game?

who do you think is scum here then?

You can't convince me on Brian
I sure hope you can't convince me on me.

So why is Norwee scum over you?
Or is it ONLY adorable?

[Eragon]

But..it was a real revive is what im saying

Ig you have a point but if my ability was a "fake" revive, then the scum woulda got fucked on abilities no?

not neccesarily
Town had a lot of self-harming roles, while at the same time having protectives

If I didn't kill bitmap in collateral, what would have happened in the long run?
I would have killed 1 town, and there would be more scum still alive.

If TSE killed Fark like he tried to for some reason, instead of Fark getting protected?


anyways, in this scenario
Your ability WOULDN'T be the revive. It would be sending fake mod messages, + anything else you might have

It wouldn't be just a random fake flavor revive

[Eragon]

but do you think norwee is scum?

Cuz im gonna be honest. I don't see it.

[Eragon]

Votecount Day 1 Final

Wondertime [1] - Yumeko and Kirari
Brian Skies [1] - Adorable

Yumeko and Kirari [Lynch] - Amrun, Wondertime, Farkran, NorwegianboyEE, Brian Skies, TrueSoulEnergy, Xtoxm

Xtoxm [2] - Bitmap, Espeonage

Not voting [2] - Shadowlesscloud, Eragon

Yumeko and Kirari will be lynched!

y&K pure wagon question mark?
I think its very possible, given the fact that it ended up getting quick hammered fairly early in the day, mafia was likely to still be trying to protect Y&K, instead of going in for the bus.
Norwee could be bussing, but I think im looking more at the off-wagon people.

Votecount 2.Final

Brian Skies [1] - Adorable
Farkran [1] - TrueSoulEnergy

TrueSoulEnergy [lynch] - Farkran, NorwegianboyEE, Amrun, Brian Skies, Xtoxm

Not voting [1] - shadowlesscloud

TrueSoulEnergy will be lynched!

Another pure wagon. Wowee look at that? Although lbr there's only 1 scum left at this point so :shrug:

Shadow not having any voting presence for EITHER day is NAGL though

Votecount 3.Final

Xtoxm [Lynch] - Brian Skies, NorwegianboyEE, Eragon, Xtoxm

Not Voting: Farkran, shadowlesscloud, Adorable

Xtoxm will be lynched!.

literally the same as above


...
yeah that was kinda fruitless

[Eragon]

but do you think norwee is scum?

Cuz im gonna be honest. I don't see it.

I dont even know who all is still alive, im just sorta trusting that the last three alive not "confirmed" is the three of us

Me.
You.
Norwee.
Brian.
Adorable.

We are in F-5
Assuming I correctly interpreted the mod's lying response to Farkran, there should still be only 3 scum
meaning 1 left

Meaning no matter what happens today, we Lynch either Shadow or adorable, if they flip town I die during the night b/c Brian is immune to kills
so F-3 is
Norwee
Brian
Adorable/Shadow

and then we can blame it on Brian if anything goes wrong uwu

[Eragon]

Oh, blackness shrouded in light Frenzied blaze clad in night In the name of the crimson demons, let the collapse of thine origin manifest. Summon before me the root of thy power hidden within the lands of the kingdom of demise!

[Eragon]

Embrace.

Reading.

[Eragon]

Also lbr, the best use of my role if i *was* a fake modposter would be to post fake rolecards woth everyone being different alignments as they flip

I think that would be more illegal bastard than bastard bastard

[Eragon]

VOTE: Adorable

Generally weak reads and their town reads have no real effort behind it and seems like they just ripped them from Farkran. Their interactions with Brian was bad as well.

VOTE: Adorable

Generally weak reads and their town reads have no real effort behind it and seems like they just ripped them from Farkran. Their interactions with Brian was bad as well.

No one asked me to elaborate on my reads at the time and there is nothing scummy about giving weak reads on day 1 in less than 24 hours.

In another game I was getting scum read for not giving town reads and now I'm getting scum read for giving town reads. I don't understand what the players want now? Should I give town reads or should I not?

I think the main concern was that it seemed like you were sheeping Farkran's reads mindlessly and not really formulating your own reads.

On #358 I only said Xtoxm and Norway and when I read through your posts I added you on #359. Your thought on me sheeping Farkran's reads looks strange because it would have been Xtoxm, Norway, and Bitmap in one post all together instead of being in 2 separate posts.

Hmm. Ok I see where you're getting from but I think having post to post back to back is the same thing as a single post.

However, I like your other posts so far so...

UNVOTE:

Unless I missed something while ISO skimming

Y&K didn't ONCE mention Adorable

and these 2 posts are the only posts on Adorable, one voting and the other unvoting and giving a tentative town lean (at least that's the implication)

so NAGL

[Eragon]

Wasn't it Brian, Shadow, and Eragon who said they are in a hood? I think one of the players in the hood is scum.

Farkran and I were in a hood
Farkran is confirmed town
and so am I

Shadow and Brian are in a hood
I am determinably confident in Brian!town
and not confident in Shadow!town

[Eragon]

Embrace.

Reading.

[Eragon]

Gg shadow

Why are you always scum when I play with you

[Eragon]

But in true Aqua fashion, all those fancy words and magical spell chanting had nothing to back it up. And ultimately did nothing.

Ye aqua is useless or something, especially compared to the MAGIC OF THE CRIMSON DEMONS

[Eragon]

Farkran did

Although I kept arguing with the read because of a (now) stupid tinfoil

[Eragon]

Farkran was in 2 neighborhoods with a combined population of 2 unique people


Poggers

[Eragon]

also I had like 15 spells I could learn but the only one I could actually use is explosion

[Eragon]

also I had like 15 spells I could learn but the only one I could actually use is explosion

What a waste of writing, why would you use anything other than explosion.

I know right

EXPLOSUSIAOSOSUDHSGAUDHDUAOMSDHEBEHDBSKWHSLS SJEION

[Eragon]

But we had to policy lynch TSE. Remember that.

And Xtoxm

[Eragon]

I think my biggest concern with the set up was Farkran able to pass along their info along with the redacted part being revealed on death

I agree about the redacted part being revealed

[Eragon]

Soooo... i am now free of games, i am willing to join a normal/open or something with friends to spice things up. I already bribed kerset and dongempire to join with me, anyone interested? We should be able to fill up a queue pretty quickly

OwO

[Eragon]

I wish I could of played this more and not have died due to a lol shot.

I mean I shot Espeo for a reason
It wasn’t just random

You died Becuase you neighborized them(which I admit I didn’t expect)