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torque is so mean

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torque is so mean

Oh hi, you exist.
Can you waifu claim.

is everyone doing it ?

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im sad cus the role i got basically needs to be claimed on d1
which is the opposite of how i like to play

if anyone needs their tier upgrading, im your girl
HOWEVER, there is a very niche scenario in which is works.
we BOTH must be targeting each other
even then, some abilities wont increase your tier. visitor, for example, i'm told wouldn't work.

this is obviously never going to happen if we dont talk about it
im sure theres a town role out there that i have synergy with
i expect theres a scum one too
so if your role sounds like the counterpart to mine, and you also dont mind revealing that, then reach out to me
otherwise i guess i'll just pick someone at random and state that i'm targeting you and that person can reciprocate if they want i guess

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i wanna fuckin meme but I just fucked up my arm real bad

Y is gonna have to handle our slot for a bit sorry

X when does your ability activate?

-K

at the end of the night like other abilities i'd expect - nothing in my role pm to indicate otherwise

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if shireen's slot reps out without posting, i want it gone
thats rand wolf sub out if ive ever seen it

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Spoiler: rejected pick

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Xtoxm, do you have any reads based on what happened so far?

yeah i have a few stealth alt reads

kirari - krazy
shireen - joan/yume
wonder - alisae maybe?

so who does that leave, yumeko and time? hmmmm
i should have stealth alted in this game too

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im not giving reads today outside of expressing who i support lynching
ive towned my slot sufficiently by claiming, there is no need for me to do more and im already at a >rand chance of being instakilled n1
since ive already fullclaimed, wagoning me does nothing. its either:
- busywork to look like you're doing something
- a direct attempt to delete a moderate to high threat to scum on d1
both are extremely scum motivated

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its a night action, so the decision doesnt need to be made now
but yes, you're the only one who reached out so my plan is to target you
if your action is a day action then i dont think its going to do anything, have you prodded the mod about it?
if you think it will resolve on n1 then yes target me.
if you think it will resolve during the day, then you probably have better things to do with it.

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I also don't think his claim is that townish to begin with since it seems like a way for scum to draw out visiting town roles

follow this logical train of thought for more than 2 seconds, schmuck
what happens when i cant prove the role exists?
as scum, i have precluded myself from endgaming, immediately at the start of d1
why do i do this as scum?

if the role ive claimed is real, and town aligned, hypothetically, then do you agree that it needs to be claimed to get any value out of it?
do you think pissing in the dark and hoping we hit each other is a better way to play my role?

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I also don't think his claim is that townish to begin with since it seems like a way for scum to draw out visiting town roles

follow this logical train of thought for more than 2 seconds, schmuck
what happens when i cant prove the role exists?
as scum, i have precluded myself from endgaming, immediately at the start of d1
why do i do this as scum?

if the role ive claimed is real, and town aligned, hypothetically, then do you agree that it needs to be claimed to get any value out of it?
do you think pissing in the dark and hoping we hit each other is a better way to play my role?

Hi, can you play the game?

i am playing i just havent gone in depth in reads.
mechanics is also a big part of games and the part that interest me more actually
but fine if you really want reads

1. Bitmap - since the shouting match with ali i leaning village idiot more than scum
2. Farkran - i feel like everything hes offered is 'safe' and hes also someone im expecting to have a wide scumrange based on reputation i cant tr this yet
3. shadowlesscloud - i dont tr
4. Amrun - i dont tr, there was a post about "choo choo" for a wagon that i felt was pretty out of the place at the time and pinged me but eh.
5. Wondertime - seems pretty in line with town ali from what ive seen ARE YOU HAPPY NOW YOU MADE ME GIVE READS ENJOY THE +CHANCE OF EARLY NK
7. NorwegianboyEE - leaning town
8. Espeonage - decent start but he seems to have faded quite hard, which could be concerning
9. Eragon - feels pretty townie tbh, liked his back and forth with YK
10. Yumeko and Kirari - i dont know really but he claimed what sounds like the other part of my puzzle piece and i want to put them together and now that he clarified his role is a night action i kinda this this is town on setup spec but would def need to wait for massclaim to be confident to see how many slots my role actually has synergy with
11. Adorable - i like how she reacted to pressure and didnt think her first 5 posts that got her wagoned were sus in the first place, fairly solid town tbh
12. Brian Skies - honestly if hes gonna be ignoring mechanics then i think hes a liability so id be happy to lynch this
13. Shireen Baratheon - this is the true poe lynch, if people have too many townreads i am never the choice here

overall this game seems to have a bunch of high presence wordy people but im not ~feeling~ like this is a game being led by town, i think there 1-2 scum in the high presence crew that would be hard to catch, possibly with someone like shireen as a third

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im sad cus the role i got basically needs to be claimed on d1
which is the opposite of how i like to play

if anyone needs their tier upgrading, im your girl
HOWEVER, there is a very niche scenario in which is works.
we BOTH must be targeting each other
even then, some abilities wont increase your tier. visitor, for example, i'm told wouldn't work.

this is obviously never going to happen if we dont talk about it
im sure theres a town role out there that i have synergy with
i expect theres a scum one too
so if your role sounds like the counterpart to mine, and you also dont mind revealing that, then reach out to me
otherwise i guess i'll just pick someone at random and state that i'm targeting you and that person can reciprocate if they want i guess

10. Yumeko and Kirari - i dont know really but he claimed what sounds like the other part of my puzzle piece and i want to put them together and now that he clarified his role is a night action i kinda this this is town on setup spec but would def need to wait for massclaim to be confident to see how many slots my role actually has synergy with

This sounds like a very weird reason to have confidence in Yumeko

Like, are you expecting that slot is the only one with a targeted night action, or is their claim more fitting to your role than you would averagely expect? I don't care about specifics, just tell me if there's anything from yumeko that pinged you MORE than a standard targeted night action role would have. If it is about tiers, a lot of waifus have tiers. It was implied in the mod sample role PM that they would, and waifus that cannot be upgrade are an exception, not the norm.

like how its an action that he doesnt know what it does until he gets tier upgraded

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It was implied in the mod sample role PM that they would, and waifus that cannot be upgrade are an exception, not the norm.

well idk about that
i cant be upgraded (presumably because i AM the/a upgrader)
norwee said he cant
amrun said something about being a trash role that made me think she cant
im expecting the 2 pres nominees to have that as their main ~thing~

so ive mentally ruled out all of those for targeting
that leaves me with 8 candidates, and YK is claiming something that fits

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they are the only one that has reached out to me, so they are the only slot i can expect it to work on.
with others i have no knowledge of:
-whether they even have an action
-whether they intend to target me
-whether they are a role that can be upgraded

we BOTH need to target each other for this to work.
this is an extremely low probability event, unless we talk about, like i have with YK

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they are the only one that has reached out to me, so they are the only slot i can expect it to work on.

Well i'm just worried you're upgrading a scum role and making them unlynchable or something.

well thats a risk with using my power at all, on anyone.
*usually* its better EV for town to use their abilities, than not use them.

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It was implied in the mod sample role PM that they would, and waifus that cannot be upgrade are an exception, not the norm.

well idk about that
i cant be upgraded (presumably because i AM the/a upgrader)
norwee said he cant
amrun said something about being a trash role that made me think she cant
im expecting the 2 pres nominees to have that as their main ~thing~

so ive mentally ruled out all of those for targeting
that leaves me with 8 candidates, and YK is claiming something that fits

I actually prob could/should upgrade p sure I can

acknowledged; putting you back in the target pool, going forward.
sticking to YK for now, assuming they are alive n1, since i've made the agreement with them.

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yes, you should. mechanics are more important than reads 100% of the time. without roles, town would be losing the vast majority of games.

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well if you guys are insistent on this lynch, then i'll target one of these 5 players:
shadowlesscloud
Amrun
Wondertime
Eragon
Adorable

i'll roll a dice or something

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its her meta
we told you this

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shireen - joan/yume

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her one post in this game is consistent with how she posts
her post complaining about being rejected from jingles game in the queue also strongly points to it being her

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we actually got a downgrade from shireen
unfortunate

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@YK
whats up?
ive never known you to go limp like this
do you have words for the vote?

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this game is so boring
plist sucks tbh
and we're lynching the player i wanna play with the most so idc enough
y'all can lynch me next
lets go down together krazy <3
VOTE: yumeko

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I'll comment on his hammer depending on what Yumeko flips.

hes town

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*ahem*

if i could have a moment of everyones time, i've prepared a eulogy for yumeko and kirari.

theres no earthly way of knowing
what was in your head when you posted 910
the whole of waifuland shook
the storm was blowing up you

waiting for master
to stop this
im too young,
and darkness
everyone around me is corrupted
say nothing

theres no dignity in death
to sell the game your last wolf breath
we're still fighting over the wifom you left
ohh

i saw you standing at the gates
when kirari momobami passed away
you had that look upon your face
openwolfing scum

and no one learned form your mistakes
we let our wolf pelt go to waste
all thats left in any case
is openwolfing scum

VOTE: brian

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ok since it looks like im obvtown with the flips and was the counter wagon to scum yday i'll not lolcat today
but anyone even suggesting that i could be scum is going to be autovoted by me

i VERY STRONGLY considered using my thing on norwee, since none of you deserved an upgrade with how unbearable you've all made the game
however, i talked myself down and used it on adorable.

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well, she only gets the upgrade if she also targeted me last night.

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i VERY STRONGLY considered using my thing on norwee, since none of you deserved an upgrade with how unbearable you've all made the game

What was unbearable?
And why did you consider targeting me, i told you it was pointless.

because my action is compulsive, and i was so annoyed at y'all

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I forgot to mention on day 1 I don't need to be upgraded.

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I was either redirected, roleblocked or Farkran is Immune to attacks.

VOTE: Farkran

I hard Claim 1-Shot Vigilante.
I was going for the hero shot.

theres a flipped scum protective so i dont really expect another
looking at the flips, wonder probably elite bodyguarded the scum kill which took out bitmap and wonder
that leaves espe as an unknown kill. if no one claims it, perhaps you were redirected there?
ive already confirmed with mod that there are no 3p roles in the game

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Elite bodyguard dies in place of the person they protect and also kills the player performing that kill.

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I think we should massclaim today btw.
Only 1 scum left, decent chance we can set up a mech solve.
Plus, multiple claims are already on the board.

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Eh idk if pre crumbling a protect is really a thing but norwee is pretty town anyway

{Norwee, amrun, tse}
{Fark, eragon}
{Brian, shadow}

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Go ahead and activate your ic then.
If your "conftown" is anything less than that, not interested.
Not into the soft claim either.

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3 scum is standard for 13p
I've asked the mod and he said there are no 3p roles
If you were reading the game you'd already know the answers to these surface level questions

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@Fark, wonder had bitmap in his locktown core so I dont believe he would be nk. Elite bg thing seems more likely.

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From memory you weren't that widely tr and I dont think you were nk.

What he said earlier isn't so important when, at the end of the day he called bitmap locktown. Scum dont typically kill their pockets.

It could make sense IF tse is scum, since it looked like he was wonders next plannes lynch.

If tse is town tho, I dont see any chance wonder was nk really.

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I do agree that wonder was widely tr, yes.

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so we have 2 premade hoods?
{fark, eragon}
{brian, shadow}
and a voted hood that could have been all town if espe was elected.
thats a LOT of masonrys, and a lot on scum locked out of info if those 5 names are town.

setup spec says theres scum those first 4 names.
eragon/fark - sounds like eragon claimed vig to fark fairly early and it seems reasonable, explains the espe kill. if im fark there, im going straight to my scum put and saying "yo eragon claimed vig in the hood lets kill him tonight". so fark is probably town.
leaves {brian, shadow} to contain the scum, who are also the 2 scummiest players by play

im feeling really confident final scum is in that pair.
fark i think you're just salty tse tried to vig you, hes not actually scum.

im wondering is brian is some kind of conditional lynchproof scum like this role that we have to work out how to kill

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Thot tier.
cant be upgraded.

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i think its just brian and you need to work out the condition on which its possible to kill him, since i probably do believe the conditional immortal claim.
lynch through me and TSE first to confirm that if you must.
{norwee, amrun, adorable} are all town and should never be touched

what if the counterbalance to a town aligned reviver, is that brian is immortal while the reviver is alive?

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we cant confirm me, i cant change target, im stuck on adorable all game now, in a master-servant contract.
she says she can't be upgraded so im functionally vanilla.
i tried my best to set up use of my role yesterday and the only person who reached out to me was scum.
i will never be confirmable so feel free to lynch me today.

after me and tse flip town you will have to start looking at the possibility that brian is scum.

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VOTE: unvote
sure, adorable.

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brian isnt saying anything about flipping him
he wants to have his conditional unlynchable tested and then be allowed to live to endgame

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that was pretty subtle tbh, and i felt like amrun was scumreading me after she called my hammer bad so i thought adorable would be the most likely person out of the list of 5 that i gave to target me.

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VOTE: xtoxm
not dealing with your paranoia
get it out of the way today so you can focus on working how to kill brian

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no u

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@1338

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that made me smile ngl

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we can probably check if its even possible he was roleblocked
no one has claimed to target him so far
the remaining players could say "i did/did not target tse"
bitmap wouldnt be targeting town!tse, other dead cant/wouldnt have

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something something mechanical argument
If this flips town and it later emerges someone has a reason to explain this I'll take a dim view of it
VOTE: tse

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WHY STILL ALIVE GDI

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VOTE: brian

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Spoiler:

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Theres some full garbo towns in this game
Theres a mountain of evidence that I'm town

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What's the worst that I can say?
Things are better if I stay
So long and goodnight
So long not good night

VOTE: xtoxm

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>year non town win streak over RIP:c
This setup was pretty bullshit tbh

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