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Post Post #26 (isolation #0) » Tue Feb 18, 2020 7:16 pm

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Post Post #27 (isolation #1) » Tue Feb 18, 2020 7:17 pm

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In post 6, Ame wrote:Hello! Everyone, please answer these very important questions. I've spent thousands of hours researching questions that are guaranteed to distinguish scum from town. If everyone answers, we should know the scum team within the first page!

1. What is the origin of your username?
2. Why is Compath so townie?
3. When is the last time you had a strawberry?
4. Which of these would you prefer to spend your time doing this weekend (order from most preferred to least): playing mafia, attending a concert, attending a sports game, watching a new episode of your favorite show.
5. On a scale of 0 to 10, how upset would you be if we lynched you today?
6. If Hectic has 5 strawberries and DrDolittle has 2, how many does Luca have?
7. Imagine that you are scum this game: would it be true or false that you are scum?

VOTE: DrDoLittle

for voting a townie
fun fact: last couple of times (or was it just once? not sure) i saw someone open with this it was scum who wanted to blend in.
Also do you think that voting for a townie is scum indicative?
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Post Post #28 (isolation #2) » Tue Feb 18, 2020 7:18 pm

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In post 16, Kanna wrote:Does anyone like coffee here, maybe?

VOTE: Luca Blight
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Post Post #29 (isolation #3) » Tue Feb 18, 2020 7:19 pm

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In post 4, Compath wrote:Things are going to be
hectic
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VOTE: Hectic
who are you?
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Post Post #33 (isolation #4) » Tue Feb 18, 2020 7:58 pm

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In post 32, Ame wrote:Voting a townie isn't scum indicative. Voting a townie that is playing towny is.
do you consider your vote on DDL an rvs vote or are you serious about it?
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Post Post #34 (isolation #5) » Tue Feb 18, 2020 7:59 pm

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This game should be renamed to Coffee Mafia
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Post Post #36 (isolation #6) » Tue Feb 18, 2020 8:04 pm

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In post 32, Ame wrote:This particular set has never failed to identify scum
You show me at least 1 game where this statement is proven and I'll work with you

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Post Post #37 (isolation #7) » Tue Feb 18, 2020 8:05 pm

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In post 35, DrDolittle wrote:Why is no one questioning my commitment to voting compath
it's being questioned?
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Post Post #38 (isolation #8) » Tue Feb 18, 2020 8:05 pm

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I'm questioning the questioner of your vote
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Post Post #40 (isolation #9) » Tue Feb 18, 2020 8:08 pm

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In post 33, Iconeum wrote:
In post 32, Ame wrote:Voting a townie isn't scum indicative. Voting a townie that is playing towny is.
do you consider your vote on DDL an rvs vote or are you serious about it?
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Post Post #42 (isolation #10) » Tue Feb 18, 2020 8:09 pm

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VOTE: ame
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Post Post #44 (isolation #11) » Tue Feb 18, 2020 8:11 pm

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Post Post #45 (isolation #12) » Tue Feb 18, 2020 8:13 pm

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In post 41, Ame wrote:
In post 32, Ame wrote: I like your avatar, please answer my questions!
how about you answer my question, which is actually gonna help move this game forward :)
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Post Post #47 (isolation #13) » Tue Feb 18, 2020 8:22 pm

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In post 46, Ame wrote:There's no reason for you not to help me here.

Are you afraid that I'll actually be able to solve the game?

If you care about moving the game forward, then answer my questions and I will reciprocate!
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Post Post #48 (isolation #14) » Tue Feb 18, 2020 8:24 pm

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In post 6, Ame wrote:1. What is the origin of your username?
It's a reference to a city in Turkey (Konya - Iconeum is the latin name)
This used to be the focal point of my attention in the early Total War games.

Your turn to answer my question, ame. I'm sure your list will be completed in no time like this :lol:
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Post Post #52 (isolation #15) » Tue Feb 18, 2020 8:32 pm

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In post 49, Ame wrote:That is neat.
In post 33, Iconeum wrote:
In post 32, Ame wrote:Voting a townie isn't scum indicative. Voting a townie that is playing towny is.
do you consider your vote on DDL an rvs vote or are you serious about it?
Yes
No cheating :)

Answer the question please (RVS vote or serious?)
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Post Post #54 (isolation #16) » Tue Feb 18, 2020 9:39 pm

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In post 4, Compath wrote:Things are going to be
hectic
with you around.

VOTE: Hectic
In post 5, DrDolittle wrote:VOTE: compath serious vote
In post 6, Ame wrote:Hello! Everyone, please answer these very important questions. I've spent thousands of hours researching questions that are guaranteed to distinguish scum from town. If everyone answers, we should know the scum team within the first page!

1. What is the origin of your username?
2. Why is Compath so townie?
3. When is the last time you had a strawberry?
4. Which of these would you prefer to spend your time doing this weekend (order from most preferred to least): playing mafia, attending a concert, attending a sports game, watching a new episode of your favorite show.
5. On a scale of 0 to 10, how upset would you be if we lynched you today?
6. If Hectic has 5 strawberries and DrDolittle has 2, how many does Luca have?
7. Imagine that you are scum this game: would it be true or false that you are scum?

VOTE: DrDoLittle

for voting a townie
this implies that ame is townreading compath for that opening, which is a stretch
at best

In post 32, Ame wrote:
In post 27, Iconeum wrote:
fun fact: last couple of times (or was it just once? not sure) i saw someone open with this it was scum who wanted to blend in.
Also do you think that voting for a townie is scum indicative?
I get that a lot! Something about it being LAMIST.

Voting a townie isn't scum indicative. Voting a townie that is playing towny is.

I like your avatar, please answer my questions! This particular set has never failed to identify scum. Once everyone answers, we should have this game solved in no time
the way ame says 'voting a townie that is playing townie' is scummy, strongly suggests ame is actually strong townreading compath because??
In post 49, Ame wrote:That is neat.
In post 33, Iconeum wrote:
In post 32, Ame wrote:Voting a townie isn't scum indicative. Voting a townie that is playing towny is.
do you consider your vote on DDL an rvs vote or are you serious about it?
Yes
The way ame is dodging around my questions strongly feels like he doesn't wanna be held accountable for this read, which really pings me.
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Post Post #55 (isolation #17) » Tue Feb 18, 2020 9:39 pm

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In post 53, Ame wrote:Thinking about it, if you don't answer the questions in one go, their validity is compromised.
backtracking because you don't wanna answer me huh?
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Post Post #130 (isolation #18) » Wed Feb 19, 2020 7:28 pm

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In post 62, Ame wrote:Every time someone's done this little game of avoiding my questions, they've been scum
Show me 1 game where you caught someone like this.

I'm serious.

Show it.
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Post Post #132 (isolation #19) » Wed Feb 19, 2020 7:31 pm

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In post 83, Kanna wrote:can I call you Ico?
Most people do, no problem
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Post Post #134 (isolation #20) » Wed Feb 19, 2020 7:34 pm

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In post 104, Compath wrote:Why is playing a character town-indicative for Hectic? In my opinion, it'd be scum-indicative because he gets to hide behind the character that he's playing.
I wanna answer this, too. I've never seen Hectic roleplay before. For that reason I consider it NAI.
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Post Post #135 (isolation #21) » Wed Feb 19, 2020 7:36 pm

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In post 129, Luca Blight wrote:Just skimmed through, this is how I roughly feel about everyone right now:

Hectic - SL
DrDolittle - TL
Compath - TL
Kanna - SL
Ame - TL
Slaxx - SL
clidd - TL
Iconeum - SL

I'll go into more detail shortly.
are we really going down this road again?
i'm here if you wanna engage about anything luca
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Post Post #153 (isolation #22) » Wed Feb 19, 2020 8:56 pm

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In post 144, Luca Blight wrote:Icon says he's here if I wanna engage.

I wanna engage but he doesn't engage :(
i'm here :lol:
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Post Post #154 (isolation #23) » Wed Feb 19, 2020 8:59 pm

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In post 6, Ame wrote: 1. What is the origin of your username?
Rome: Total War, city in what is now known as Turkey

2. Why is Compath so townie?
He's not

3. When is the last time you had a strawberry?
Last week. Multiple, actually.

4. Which of these would you prefer to spend your time doing this weekend (order from most preferred to least): playing mafia, attending a concert, attending a sports game, watching a new episode of your favorite show.
concert, fav show, sports game, playing mafia

5. On a scale of 0 to 10, how upset would you be if we lynched you today?
10+

6. If Hectic has 5 strawberries and DrDolittle has 2, how many does Luca have?
I don't know but I want
all
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7. Imagine that you are scum this game: would it be true or false that you are scum?
yes
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Post Post #155 (isolation #24) » Wed Feb 19, 2020 9:00 pm

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In post 137, Luca Blight wrote:I'm trying to stay open-minded after last time I have to ISO you again, but your opening seemed a bit more intense than what I'm used to from Town!Icon.
IIRC, last game we were both town? And we hard scumread each other right?
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Post Post #157 (isolation #25) » Wed Feb 19, 2020 9:01 pm

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In post 140, Luca Blight wrote:I agree that at this point it makes sense just to answer the questions and see what Ame has to say about it.
i answered because if this btw
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Post Post #158 (isolation #26) » Wed Feb 19, 2020 9:02 pm

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In post 156, Ame wrote:Thank you <3!
i want to see you link at least 1 game where you actually caught scum based off of it, like you said you had done multiple times in teh past
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Post Post #160 (isolation #27) » Wed Feb 19, 2020 9:07 pm

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I'm 'intense' because ame is pinging me like crazy

The holding on to RQS, how ame refuses to prove it has caught scum in the past, the refusal to talk about it, the refusing to engage with me upon it (exchange questions, withdrawing once ame realized it would have to actually answer my concerns)

And I have literally caught scum in the past for literally what ame is doing right now. I think it was in teh newbie queue. Would have to look it up if anyone's interested.
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In post 161, Luca Blight wrote:I believe that was me who caught that particular scum.
You don't happen to remember which game that was, do you?
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Post Post #165 (isolation #29) » Wed Feb 19, 2020 9:14 pm

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In post 162, Luca Blight wrote:Icon do you have any reads on anyone other than Ame?
kanna v hectic interaction feels like TvT having fun during rvs
you feel like your town opening compared to prev games

i don't have any other scumpings/reads other then ame right now
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Post Post #169 (isolation #30) » Wed Feb 19, 2020 9:20 pm

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In post 166, Luca Blight wrote:The difference though is that in that newbie game the player (Spangled) didn't hold onto the RQS, whereas Ame is.

What is the scum motivation behind insisting everyone answers the questions?
ngl, that game didn't happen like i remembered it happen

I didn't push that RQS like I thought I did, but the point still stands. I've been in at least 1 game where scum got caught on the RQS opening. Luca gets the credit on that one.

@Luca, this RQS is not pinging you like the game you quoted?
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Post Post #170 (isolation #31) » Wed Feb 19, 2020 9:21 pm

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In post 166, Luca Blight wrote:The difference though is that in that newbie game the player (Spangled) didn't hold onto the RQS, whereas Ame is.

What is the scum motivation behind insisting everyone answers the questions?
It's not that I doubt the insistance of the RQS, rather the (probable) lying about results ('having caught scum with it in the past') and reluctance to engage with me over it
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Post Post #173 (isolation #32) » Wed Feb 19, 2020 9:26 pm

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@ame do you always open a game with RQS?
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Post Post #174 (isolation #33) » Wed Feb 19, 2020 9:27 pm

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In post 142, Kanna wrote:Luca's latest takes were pretty interesting because they seem to be the opposite of most reads I've seen. I just want to say I wouldn't look into the coffee thing or the wow thing because ~reasons~. From my POV, it looks a bit opportunistic to push me on those things but I could be biased.
what do you mean by 'interesting'? what do you make of it?
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Post Post #176 (isolation #34) » Wed Feb 19, 2020 9:29 pm

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yeah it was that game

but mea culpa, i didn't catch that scum

luca did, i was just on the wagon for that and other reasons as well

so what I should have said was smt like: 'ive seen scum get caught for RQS in teh past' and not 'Ive caught scum for RQS in the past'
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Post Post #181 (isolation #35) » Wed Feb 19, 2020 9:35 pm

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In post 179, Kanna wrote:Alrighty, I'll look over that game tomorrow. I've also been in a game where the rqs poster was scum, but in that game, he used to try and grab the "town leader role," early (I think?) which is kinda different to what Ame is doing.
Disagree. Ame insisting on RQS being answered and saying, very clearly, that it has a HUGE success chance of catching the scum fees a lot like trying to be town leader?
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Post Post #183 (isolation #36) » Wed Feb 19, 2020 9:55 pm

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In post 32, Ame wrote:Voting a townie isn't scum indicative. Voting a townie that is playing towny is.
how was any of that play townie?
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Post Post #185 (isolation #37) » Wed Feb 19, 2020 10:02 pm

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In post 109, Compath wrote:Town the worst - My favorite duckling. Quack! :)
Kanna - Questioning others and actively generating content. They're participating in interactions that they don't really need to.
Hectic - Still a quality memer, like usual. Despite putting up an act as this Officer "Officer" Officer guy, he feels surprisingly natural.
Iconeum - Gut, and also sort of meta read. Asking questions and actively pressuring Ame. Ame - Doubles down on the "Answer my RQS" thing, and draws unnecessary attention to themselves. DDL - Feels very relaxed and natural, saying things as they come to his mind.
Null Luca Blight - He just hasn't done much yet.
Slaxx - Gut, and I also dislike post 66.
Clidd - He simply feels like he's trying too hard. He calls Ico's interactions with Ame "well-intentioned". Despite this, he still puts Ico as a nullish read. Some of his reads simply don't make much sense. He townreads Hectic for playing a character, and scumreads Kanna and I for something related to Ame's RQS, and doesn't elaborate on it at all. His post 88 also feels like he made it hard to read on purpose.
Scum Datisi - Gets too many pagetops. Leave some for the rest of us!
Oh this is a good readlist.
Slightly worried Compath has a meta read on me because God help me I don't know who Compath is.
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Post Post #186 (isolation #38) » Wed Feb 19, 2020 10:03 pm

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In post 184, Ame wrote:
In post 4, Compath wrote:Things are going to be
hectic
with you around.

VOTE: Hectic
In post 5, DrDolittle wrote:VOTE: compath serious vote
In particular, I read Compath's joke as forced because the hectic pun is obvious and seems like something that has probably been made many times. From this, I thought Compath was either,

A. Awkward scum
B. Someone who has played with hectic and was hinting at who he was

The latter was my interpretation after thinking about it, and if it were the case it was town indicative to me because it would be unnecessarily putting himself out there / providing information to hectic. I scum read DDL for his serious vote because I felt he also picked up on the awkwardness, but instead of thinking it through to the alternative option (B), he stopped at (A), which was scum indicative to me (pushing over sorting).
can we please get some votes on this please
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Post Post #188 (isolation #39) » Wed Feb 19, 2020 10:06 pm

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In post 184, Ame wrote:
In post 4, Compath wrote:Things are going to be
hectic
with you around.

VOTE: Hectic
In post 5, DrDolittle wrote:VOTE: compath serious vote
In particular,
I read Compath's joke as forced
because the hectic pun is obvious and seems like something that has probably been made many times. From this, I thought Compath was either,

A. Awkward scum

B. Someone who has played with hectic and was hinting at who he was

The latter was my interpretation
after thinking about it, and if it were the case it was town indicative to me because it would be unnecessarily putting himself out there / providing information to hectic. I scum read DDL for his serious vote because I felt he also picked up on the awkwardness, but instead of thinking it through to the alternative option (B), he stopped at (A), which was scum indicative to me (pushing over sorting).
'yeah compath joke is forced, this reads like akward scum but i'll interpret it like it's just a hard townread' <-- this is how i read this
Furthermore, you go 'oh DDL is voting this scummy slot that I should be scumreading but am actually hard townreading because lolwhynot, so DDL must be scum'?

what's the logic here?
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Post Post #189 (isolation #40) » Wed Feb 19, 2020 10:06 pm

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it's such a bad faked scumread
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Post Post #190 (isolation #41) » Wed Feb 19, 2020 10:09 pm

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Let me rephrase that

You read compath like he's awkward scum
But you somehow go to a hard townread on it

and you then proceed to scumread someone who's scumreading and voting someone YOU read like awkward scum?
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Post Post #191 (isolation #42) » Wed Feb 19, 2020 10:10 pm

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i don't know how to phrase this properly but i hope ya'll understand lol
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Post Post #192 (isolation #43) » Wed Feb 19, 2020 10:11 pm

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clidd is hard to read
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Post Post #194 (isolation #44) » Wed Feb 19, 2020 10:12 pm

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In post 193, Ame wrote:Compath being solid townie was hyperbole / RVS shenanegans.
well no

you just said it was a serious read?
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Post Post #195 (isolation #45) » Wed Feb 19, 2020 10:14 pm

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Though i'm not sure what your scum plan is by doing any of this

It's not a position you wanna be in if ur scum, and you could have easily just gone with the flow once heat turned up

ehhhhhh
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Post Post #202 (isolation #46) » Wed Feb 19, 2020 11:12 pm

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In post 78, Slaxx wrote:I’ll die on this hill
rip
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Post Post #312 (isolation #47) » Thu Feb 20, 2020 7:35 pm

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In post 209, Hectic wrote:trainee "trainee" trainee again!

Knight Luca's suspicious on Conniver Kanna actually have good grounds with what he can see, and is a good look for him! but Luca, the coffee questions and "Wow" are almost definitely NAI in this context

Wyvern Icon! what do you think of Demon Slayer Ame's ? i'm surprised you had nothing to say it about it considering your earlier push and suspicion on Ame regarding her Compath read (◕ﬦ ◕✿)

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I'm coming around on that scumread on Ame. What pinged me earlier still pings me, but I don't see *why* mafia would play this out like this? I'm still curious to the results of said RQS and the link to previous games where ame finally proves the statement tho.
In post 237, clidd wrote:
In post 231, Slaxx wrote:Also can't really describe it but Icon is giving me decent town feelz. I think my list is probably

(Ame, Compath, DDL, Icon)-Slight Town
(Luca, Kanna)-Null
(Hectic)- Slight Scum
(Clidd)- Scum
You remind me a lot of a player called Espeonage from a past game (he was
scum
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This is yuck. Shading, no content.
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In post 104, Compath wrote:Clidd feels like he's trying too hard to be honest.

@Clidd - How is your Iconeum read different from the null reads you have on Luca and DDL?

Why did you basically completely ignore slaxx?

Why do you need something to "radically" change your opinion in order to not scumread Ame, despite stating that you only find them to be slightly suspicious?

Why is playing a character town-indicative for Hectic? In my opinion, it'd be scum-indicative because he gets to hide behind the character that he's playing.

What specifically did you find scummy in Kanna/my RQS answers? Did you find the fact that we quickly complied with RQS to be scummy, or something else?
1. It depends on whether I can differentiate the questioning between
Iconeum
and
Ame
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Joker
'', as it can take both sides depending on the interpretation of a specific attitude, post or action.

2. There is no specific reason, considering that I forgot about him during the reasoning. I have been overloading myself recently, so it's not uncommon for this to happen. As I saw that it had happened, I thought about directing a question to him, so that I didn't have to rewrite my post and read his ISO.

3. Because it is a progressive sensation, that starts small and intensifies as the interactions happen. Already predicting this, I used the term to justify if, later, I changed my mind, through some significant post or event.

4. Well, that would mean talking about games in progress, which is forbidden, but basically it's not something normal coming from
scum!Hectic
that I expect. And, also, it seems like an activity that he is enjoying doing and demands editing time, so I believe that, in this context, it would not be used in bad faith. But, of course, it would make sense if he sought to switch to narration in order to disrupt the behavioral read of his posts, in that case, it would be up to you to judge it as bad or not.

5. In a simple way, it would be the parallel that I drew with one of my two games as scum. It was not conclusive, but intigative to promote an interaction between us, like the one that is happening right now.
The same trend in most of Clidds posts: many words, not a lot of content and most certainly not any conclusions.
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In post 231, Slaxx wrote:Also can't really describe it but Icon is giving me decent town feelz. I think my list is probably

(Ame, Compath, DDL, Icon)-Slight Town
(Luca, Kanna)-Null
(Hectic)- Slight Scum
(Clidd)- Scum
It's interesting how Slaxx ignores mine and Kanna's suspicion of him and just plants us both as 'null'.

I think it's very unlikely Clidd is scum this game btw based on meta.
Independently from meta, I don't townread Clidd.
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In post 264, Luca Blight wrote:I played against scum!Clidd twice and he replaced out both times right at the start
Yikes...
Well. As long as we don't enter trust tell territory, this is pretty convincing lol.
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Post Post #314 (isolation #48) » Thu Feb 20, 2020 8:02 pm

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I think he's town actually. And I think Clidd is scum. I know your meta defence of him, but the dude is literally not providing any reads unless I missed them. He's spewing large posts that actually have little to no content in them, and they sure don't make a point.

Literally trying to look active without having to commit to anything.
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Post Post #315 (isolation #49) » Thu Feb 20, 2020 8:03 pm

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Slaxx is sorting, making reads. I don't scumread him at all, but it's not like I have him as hard town either.

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Post Post #317 (isolation #50) » Thu Feb 20, 2020 8:30 pm

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In post 316, Luca Blight wrote:It seems a little odd how I ask you a question about Slaxx and you turn the attention onto Clidd lol

Why aren’t you voting Clidd?
I'm not sure that's entirely true, I gave you my opinion on Slaxx. I am also saying I don't agree with Clidd being town. Not sure why you don't want me to talk about that?
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Post Post #318 (isolation #51) » Thu Feb 20, 2020 8:31 pm

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In post 316, Luca Blight wrote:Why aren’t you voting Clidd?
I'm unsure about what I wanna do right now.

We will have to have a talk about ame later in this day, depending on what it provides on the RQS.
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Post Post #320 (isolation #52) » Thu Feb 20, 2020 8:42 pm

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In post 319, Luca Blight wrote:I’m fine talking about anything, it just seemed an abrupt change in direction.

Did you look at Clidd’s meta? What do you think?
You see abrubt change, I see relevant opinion on a slot that's being talked about.

I didn't validate his meta if that's what you mean. Using something like 'player x always reps out if he's scum' is bad for a myriad of reasons:

-trust tell (explicitely against the rules)
-it ignores actual play
-it goes against what I consider to be the spirit of the game
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Post Post #321 (isolation #53) » Thu Feb 20, 2020 8:43 pm

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all of you (luca), compath and kanna are giving me town vibes when i read you
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Post Post #322 (isolation #54) » Thu Feb 20, 2020 8:44 pm

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i'm not sure about hectic and it's roleplay

i've literally never seen hectic do that so i don't know what it means

it's funny and great, but i can't really read him based off of that
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Post Post #324 (isolation #55) » Thu Feb 20, 2020 8:51 pm

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i haven't
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Post Post #326 (isolation #56) » Thu Feb 20, 2020 8:55 pm

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In post 117, DrDolittle wrote:I thought post 8 was all right, and can justify the stupid pun entrance
why does a pun entrance *have* to be justified?
In post 128, DrDolittle wrote:VOTE: luca blight
this is the way to go
why
In post 74, DrDolittle wrote:VOTE: slaxxx
feelin decent about compath rn actually
why
In post 203, DrDolittle wrote:VOTE: slaxx
why
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Post Post #327 (isolation #57) » Thu Feb 20, 2020 8:55 pm

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DrWhy
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Post Post #340 (isolation #58) » Fri Feb 21, 2020 2:20 am

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In post 333, clidd wrote:
In post 314, Iconeum wrote:I think he's town actually. And I think Clidd is scum. I know your meta defence of him, but the dude is literally not providing any reads unless I missed them. He's spewing large posts that actually have little to no content in them, and they sure don't make a point.

Literally trying to look active without having to commit to anything.
Parable of the ''safe'' lynch,
scum detected
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explain?
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Post Post #341 (isolation #59) » Fri Feb 21, 2020 2:21 am

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In post 335, clidd wrote:
In post 315, Iconeum wrote:Slaxx is sorting, making reads. I don't scumread him at all, but it's not like I have him as hard town either.

If you give me a gun and make me choose between slaxx and clidd, i shoot clidd.
''Give me a buddy''
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Post Post #342 (isolation #60) » Fri Feb 21, 2020 2:23 am

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In post 339, clidd wrote:I will look for some meta on
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to discriminate accuracy on my part.
please do and tell me what you come up with
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Post Post #343 (isolation #61) » Fri Feb 21, 2020 2:39 am

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In post 338, clidd wrote:The interaction between Luca and Slaxx seems to be TvT, considering that there are signs of discomfort and possible frustration due to the accusations, displayed by Slaxx
You think frustration and discomfort are town traits?
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Post Post #350 (isolation #62) » Fri Feb 21, 2020 2:59 am

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In post 344, clidd wrote:
In post 340, Iconeum wrote:
In post 333, clidd wrote:
In post 314, Iconeum wrote:I think he's town actually. And I think Clidd is scum. I know your meta defence of him, but the dude is literally not providing any reads unless I missed them. He's spewing large posts that actually have little to no content in them, and they sure don't make a point.

Literally trying to look active without having to commit to anything.
Parable of the ''safe'' lynch,
scum detected
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explain?
There was no interest on your part in the case, and apathy about the possibility of me being a town. Unconsciously, you are willing to find a target to lynch without arousing suspicion.
Did you see me go after ame? Trying to target a lynch without arousing suspicion is hardly what I would call myself this game. But if you wanna cherrypick certain stuff, sure.
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Post Post #351 (isolation #63) » Fri Feb 21, 2020 3:02 am

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In post 347, clidd wrote:
In post 341, Iconeum wrote:
In post 335, clidd wrote:
In post 315, Iconeum wrote:Slaxx is sorting, making reads. I don't scumread him at all, but it's not like I have him as hard town either.

If you give me a gun and make me choose between slaxx and clidd, i shoot clidd.
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Why would I choose to fight Luca over his reads, when I could agree with them and make 2 buddies in the process?
How did you come at this reasoning ?
You say I'm trying to buddy. I'm saying that your thoughts make little sense because if that is in fact my goal I am deliberately choosing a much harder path in accomplishing that then what I am actually doing.

I'm bumping heads with Luca over reads, which is what i'm referring to. You can hardly call that buddying. Unless you specifically mean I'm buddying up to Slaxx and that's crazy because I've barely interacted with him.

So yeah, what ur doing here feels a bit OMGUS'y.
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Post Post #352 (isolation #64) » Fri Feb 21, 2020 3:03 am

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In post 345, clidd wrote:
In post 343, Iconeum wrote:
In post 338, clidd wrote:The interaction between Luca and Slaxx seems to be TvT, considering that there are signs of discomfort and possible frustration due to the accusations, displayed by Slaxx
You think frustration and discomfort are town traits?
It depends, but in this context, yes.
This feels fake and evasive

What context?
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Post Post #556 (isolation #65) » Sun Feb 23, 2020 7:33 pm

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i'm about 8 pages behind catching up during the coming hours
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Post Post #557 (isolation #66) » Sun Feb 23, 2020 7:40 pm

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In post 425, Compath wrote:
In post 355, clidd wrote:What I saw in your interaction with Ame was a possible approach to a death tunnel, which did not materialize due to external interaction. Evidently, considering that you're scum. In the town!Ico scenario, I believe that post 27 would become an assimilation with an individual experience, which was not well worked out, but provided an initial horizon to develop a premature dialogue between both. I still think about both possibilities, but I'm considering scum!Ico trying to architect something here.
Town!Ico never does that?
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Post Post #558 (isolation #67) » Sun Feb 23, 2020 7:40 pm

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Post Post #561 (isolation #68) » Sun Feb 23, 2020 7:50 pm

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In post 450, Kanna wrote:I think Ame sounded really genuine in #415, like she was pouring her heart out. I think Clidd might be town cause he seems really invested in solving; don't know if scum goes this far.
kanna is town this game, the way he formulates this is how town tries to sort i think
In post 551, Ame wrote:If the wording didn't have a degree of ambiguity, the question would be meaningless as you wouldn't have to think about it further.

Vote: Luca's Pride

I think it's Compath/Ico as well.
what is this supposed to mean? You wanna vote luca but think it's compath + me? After you just 'towncased' me based on that RQS?
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Post Post #562 (isolation #69) » Sun Feb 23, 2020 7:51 pm

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In post 560, Luca Blight wrote:Oh, Icon is online while I'm casing him.

This could mean war.
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Post Post #563 (isolation #70) » Sun Feb 23, 2020 7:52 pm

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I'ma reply as I see it coming luca

The first part 'risk free shading' I don't get. That was the post where I started pushing Ame. There was no actual shading, I was full blown pushing that slot starting there.
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Post Post #564 (isolation #71) » Sun Feb 23, 2020 7:53 pm

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Now that I see it again, I STILL scumread that. There's no townie reason for ame to have such a strong townread at that time, based on a single (NAI) post. And later ame confirmed it was in fact a serious townread.
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Post Post #567 (isolation #72) » Sun Feb 23, 2020 7:55 pm

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My 'overreaction' to you SL'ing me is an overreaction? I asked you to interact with me, and reminded you we did this exaxt same thing last game and reminded you about our allignments that game.

Not gonna deny that 'I'm trying to get you on my side', but I call that building a town block.

Not sure what you see there tbh
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Post Post #568 (isolation #73) » Sun Feb 23, 2020 7:58 pm

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In post 559, Luca Blight wrote:This is scummy because Icon was attacking Ame, I defended her in 166 and then Icon later backs out of the SR by using the same reasoning, without referencing where it came from. He wants to look like he's reconsidering, but I forced him to reconsider and he's making it look as though he had that thought-process himself, if that makes sense.
My dude. Are you doing this on purpose? The misreppping?
Are you actually scumpushing me?

'Luca gets the credit for this one' or smt.
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Post Post #570 (isolation #74) » Sun Feb 23, 2020 7:59 pm

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In post 566, Luca Blight wrote:it felt like you were dipping your toe in the water there.
Well yeah? This isn't wrong...
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Post Post #572 (isolation #75) » Sun Feb 23, 2020 8:02 pm

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the 'rip slaxx' post was literally a joke
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Post Post #575 (isolation #76) » Sun Feb 23, 2020 8:04 pm

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In post 571, Luca Blight wrote:
In post 568, Iconeum wrote:
In post 559, Luca Blight wrote:This is scummy because Icon was attacking Ame, I defended her in 166 and then Icon later backs out of the SR by using the same reasoning, without referencing where it came from. He wants to look like he's reconsidering, but I forced him to reconsider and he's making it look as though he had that thought-process himself, if that makes sense.
My dude. Are you doing this on purpose? The misreppping?
Are you actually scumpushing me?

'Luca gets the credit for this one' or smt.
I wasn't referring to that.

That post was regarding who caught Spangled in that game, nothing to do with your change in read on Ame.
Oh I see.

Well if you want clarification: yes it was you who made me reconsider ame
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Post Post #577 (isolation #77) » Sun Feb 23, 2020 8:06 pm

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In post 573, Luca Blight wrote:In general I SR you for similar reasons I SR Compath - a lack of solving. You went after Ame early on, which petered out after I pointed out 'what is the scum motivation'. You've since then sat on a Clidd SR despite strong meta evidence he is Town. You're loosely TR'ing most of the other players in the game and not really putting your best foot forward like I know 'Town Icon' can ;)
i'm gonna case Clidd later today and we can talk about it then :)

my Clidd scumread is exactly his lack of sorting interest

Other then these 2 I have no scumreads so far. I would have come out with them if I did. There's a bunch of townreads tho and I called them out as soon as I saw it
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Post Post #579 (isolation #78) » Sun Feb 23, 2020 8:21 pm

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In post 578, Luca Blight wrote:Icon, I know you said you had Town vibes from Compath but could you review that slot for me?

I initially had the same vibes, but ISO them and get back to me.
I'm going to reread it yes, because I have a strong hunch and a half about who he is

not gonna blow my gun before I'm sure tho :mrgreen:
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Post Post #582 (isolation #79) » Sun Feb 23, 2020 10:52 pm

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Why Clidd is scum

has up to 4! scumreads and myself as joker. The way this post is formulated isn't intended to sort anyone, it's conclusions being drawn. In post 88.

says that his previous scumleans are meant to instigate interaction, but doesn't engage with them. He's literally trying to appear scumhunting while not.

'i don't vote early', but Clidd also isn't pressuring
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of his scumreads. I feel he's trying to lay low and not draw too much attention by this.

is pure shade on Slaxx, the slot who is scumreading Clidd at that time

sooooo many words but what do they say? Close to nothing?

only
after
I call Clidd out does he turn his attention to me. He had me as a 'joker' with absolutely no intent or interaction in sorting me.

shades me. Same in

'let me go enforce my Ico scumcase by meta, because I don't have anything concrete to fake here'. 'Actually I'm not gonna do that because sorting you, my scumread, is at the absolute bottom of my priorities'.

new readlist, while after all of this I am still considered the 'joker'. This doesn't match his previous posts where he was certain I'm scum.

So. Many. Words. To say what? I still don't know.

mentions kanna liking Clidd 'because he's solving'. I don't know how kanna comes to that conclusion. If Clidd scum then + scum equity to Kanna.

How is Ame trying to solve this game? Because RQS? I came out as very likely town and i'm still in Ame's solve. How is that genuine?

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If this is literally Clidd's town meta, I'm willing to concede my read. But I don't townread him based on play. I feel it's made to look like a lot, while actually not doing anything at all.
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Post Post #583 (isolation #80) » Sun Feb 23, 2020 10:55 pm

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In post 104, Compath wrote:Clidd feels like he's trying too hard to be honest.

@Clidd - How is your Iconeum read different from the null reads you have on Luca and DDL?


Why did you basically completely ignore slaxx?

Why do you need something to "radically" change your opinion in order to not scumread Ame, despite stating that you only find them to be slightly suspicious?


Why is playing a character town-indicative for Hectic? In my opinion, it'd be scum-indicative because he gets to hide behind the character that he's playing
.

What specifically did you find scummy in Kanna/my RQS answers? Did you find the fact that we quickly complied with RQS to be scummy, or something else
?
The bolded part was very close to mindmelting at that time
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Post Post #584 (isolation #81) » Sun Feb 23, 2020 11:00 pm

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In post 445, Compath wrote:He's contradicting himself as well as shading others. He backs off too easily as well.

When questioned he either dodges the question, or answers the question in a way where it seems like he answers the question but the answer doesn't actually have any real substance.

Plus, his posts have a forced formal tone to them, and they seem hard to read on purpose.
I think my townread of Compath mainly comes from sharing thoughts about Clidd.

This player mostly starts shining later in the game and it can become quite the phenomena.

Yeah I townread him.
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Post Post #590 (isolation #82) » Mon Feb 24, 2020 1:48 am

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go for it

also i'll be honest here

there's a part of me that thinks I'm scumreading you because of *style*

like maybe i'm just not understanding what you are actually typing

(not a jab at you, just my thoughts)
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Post Post #591 (isolation #83) » Mon Feb 24, 2020 1:51 am

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but I really feel ur not actually trying to solve rather then trying to *be here*
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Post Post #593 (isolation #84) » Mon Feb 24, 2020 2:32 am

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In post 592, clidd wrote:Considering the peculiarities of your lifestyle, needs and financial / family situation, do you enjoy the job you are at the moment, even if you had an opportunity to work in another area ?
My financial and family situation is very stable

I love my job, and it leaves me with a good bit of free time to be on forum here during work hours.
There's not a whole lot of other jobs I can see myself doing that I would enjoy, barring 1. And that would involve me dedicating my life to a job, which probably isn't suited for me anyway.

Also I have no clue what you are trying to accomplish with this question so please, what do you make of this? :)
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Post Post #596 (isolation #85) » Mon Feb 24, 2020 2:37 am

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In post 594, DrDolittle wrote:mfw 36 hours is 1 daytime and 2 nights
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these 36-hour prods are devastating lol
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Post Post #597 (isolation #86) » Mon Feb 24, 2020 2:38 am

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In post 595, DrDolittle wrote:i didn't post yesterday because i wanted to wait until slaxx to check in. He still hasnt
what's the actual scumread you have on me again?
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Post Post #600 (isolation #87) » Mon Feb 24, 2020 2:42 am

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In post 237, clidd wrote:
In post 231, Slaxx wrote:Also can't really describe it but Icon is giving me decent town feelz. I think my list is probably

(Ame, Compath, DDL, Icon)-Slight Town
(Luca, Kanna)-Null
(Hectic)- Slight Scum
(Clidd)- Scum
You remind me a lot of a player called Espeonage from a past game (he was
scum
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@Luca, you used of mine in your case against me. How do these posts compare to each other according to you?
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Post Post #602 (isolation #88) » Mon Feb 24, 2020 2:45 am

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In post 599, DrDolittle wrote:except this time you're setting up a long tunnel on clidd that I don't aggree with. + maybe it's just me but you're largely ignoring other slots that could provide more fruitful discussions?
I've cased 2 slots so far. And both of them I've been called out because 'setting up a tunnel'. I really don't see it. I've engaged with Ame over a lot of stuff.

I'm engaging with Clidd over everything that needs talking about.

I've talked and am talking to Luca wrt to reads.

I'm reaching out to you right now.

I've provided my Compath read after being menaced by Luca.

Kanna I've talked about.

That's like most slots? Not all slots, sure.
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Post Post #605 (isolation #89) » Mon Feb 24, 2020 2:49 am

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In post 604, Hectic wrote:trainee "trainee" trainee wide eyed at all this loot!

wow, lot of cases suddenly going out, The Force is saving this game for tonight, but for now:
-Wyvern Icon, could you please read or at least skim through Professor Clidd's last 1 or 2 civilian games, and see if you are indeed lawbreaker-reading him for NAI/style reasons?
-What is your read on Dark Knight Luca now?

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If anyone can provide the link (again?), i can skim sure.
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Post Post #606 (isolation #90) » Mon Feb 24, 2020 2:49 am

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In post 604, Hectic wrote:-What is your read on Dark Knight Luca now?
Up in the air. I'm awaiting his responses.
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Post Post #607 (isolation #91) » Mon Feb 24, 2020 2:53 am

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In post 599, DrDolittle wrote:except this time you're setting up a long tunnel on clidd
This is seriously rubbing me in the wrong way, especially considering I did make this post:
In post 590, Iconeum wrote:go for it

also i'll be honest here

there's a part of me that thinks I'm scumreading you because of *style*

like maybe i'm just not understanding what you are actually typing

(not a jab at you, just my thoughts)
How is this me setting up a tunnel, DDL? Like, if I'm scum and I wanted to tunnel I'd just do that and not make that post?
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Post Post #609 (isolation #92) » Mon Feb 24, 2020 3:19 am

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VOTE: DDL
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Post Post #613 (isolation #93) » Mon Feb 24, 2020 3:32 am

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In post 611, Luca Blight wrote:
In post 606, Iconeum wrote:
In post 604, Hectic wrote:-What is your read on Dark Knight Luca now?
Up in the air. I'm awaiting his responses.
What caused your read on me to be ‘up in the air’?
Your insistence on scum!Ico despite us just having played a town game together. I also feel ur using something of a double standard when it comes to casing me vs your read on Clidd.
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Post Post #1384 (isolation #94) » Wed Mar 18, 2020 4:15 am

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GG EZ

Tactical day 1 scum lynch ftw

That's totally what happened
Yeah

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