Open 773: Masons and Mafia: RVS Awards (GAME OVER)

[Chemist1422]

VOTE: Chemist

this is my easy strat to clear myself as a VT is it working

[Chemist1422]

i dont remember /in to this game what

yeah you /outed lol

VOTE: Homura
because rebellion was a mistake

VOTE: Chemist

this is my easy strat to clear myself as a VT is it working

i dunno can a goon shoot him to check please?

bold of you to assume I’m not a goon

[Chemist1422]

Chemist what's your setup familiarity?

with this one?

I read the wiki page

[Chemist1422]

Chemist what's your setup familiarity?

with this one?

I read the wiki page

Did you read how to read 50 pages is less then 20 Mins.
Cause I’m still trying to figure that one out.

Yeah it’s called skimming

Well that’s how I would respond and I’m Town so this right he makes me want to hard Town read you.

cool, now you shall defend me until day 7 at which point i will gleefully reveal myself as serial killer (which absolutely nobody was expecting because i'm a hard town read)

hi creature

[Chemist1422]

one post reads are generally not a good idea in my experience

[Chemist1422]

I dunno he kinda did vote me out last survivor game (real theme doesn’t count since we never got to talk)

[Chemist1422]

Yeah I know, I’m just kidding around

For what it’s worth same goes for me

[Chemist1422]

not at all

okay maybe a little but mostly not

[Chemist1422]

Yeah I think there’s actually more value for VTs to inflate their townreads as a sort of mason cover

If you can justify a strong townread on someone and get the scum to believe you’re masons and shoot you, that outs a scum and clears a town

[Chemist1422]

VOTE: TSE

Mason hunting bad

[Chemist1422]

Yeah I think there’s actually more value for VTs to inflate their townreads as a sort of mason cover

If you can justify a strong townread on someone and get the scum to believe you’re masons and shoot you, that outs a scum and clears a town

VOTE: TSE

Mason hunting bad

Explain the progression here? I don't track this vote.

I don't see how you don't see the difference between theory on how masons/VTs should play and voting someone for pointing out a VT slip

[Chemist1422]

Egix, who do you scumread?

Auro, are you buddying me?

pedit: can I get in on this support group

No because I'm the capricious Duchess and I don't personally scumread your towntone.

CheekyTeeky is out too because I only scumread her towntactics.

Chemist1422 is invited to submit an application.

fun fact recently I’ve been getting scumread for having towny entrances

[Chemist1422]

Yo

I haven't really caught up and am not really in the best mood, which is part of why I'm forcing myself to post

what's going on

[Chemist1422]

It'll never be definitive evidence, especially if they're a good enough player to be aware of it

Of course, that depends on what it is, because if it's something absurd and they've been lynched for it in the past it's a towntell

[Chemist1422]

In that case it's probably more subconscious but not enough for definitive evidence

[Chemist1422]

Nothing really, to be fair

We're all just trying our best

[Chemist1422]

If it's a subconscious choice of wording I think it's a ~reasonably strong microread
If it's more of a conscious choice that shows scum motivation that's something that's a lot more solid to latch onto

[Chemist1422]

I think conscious behaviours are more likely to be manipulable by someone self-aware though, as you pointed out before

Exactly, but if it's pushing an agenda, sometimes it doesn't matter

Do you study chemistry? What's your read on Aldehyde?

My science class right now is actually physics

Do you mean Aldus?

[Chemist1422]

I'm pretty sure ML and Ceph were both in D&D mafia separately but I haven't fact checked that

[Chemist1422]

Yeah I checked and they were

So not Ceph

[Chemist1422]

isn't that literally the definition of angleshooting and illegal

[Chemist1422]

VOTE: Cat Scratch Fever

[Chemist1422]

Wait are player shots limited to one per goon?

[Chemist1422]

Wait are player shots limited to one per goon?

@Hectic

[Chemist1422]

Can someone read over Auro/CT interactions

Because on a macro level I wanna call it not s/s but there's not a lot of actual pushing between the two

[Chemist1422]

Yo

I've kinda been ignoring all my online obligations today

But I got an Absol plushie so it's okay

[Chemist1422]

What's an absol?

plushieeeeeee

@Pops/Chemist: would you vote Suji? If not, why not?

not yet since I haven't read

[Chemist1422]

I've read on and off until CT died

I'll probably read it tomorrow? I was at a convention for all of today so I couldn't

[Chemist1422]

VoteCount 1.6

RVS Award for

Huh, Fair Enough

goes to...

Ayy, i dont believe in Rv so i am going to vote mafia, since its towny to vote mafia

VOTE: CloudKicker

CheekyTeeky [4]

- Cat Scratch Fever, Auro, Yshtola Rhul, woodchuck321

TrueSoulEnergy [2]

- Alduskkel, Chemist1422

Auro [1]

- Egix96

woodchuck [1]

- CheekyTeeky

Klick [1]

- TrueSoulEnergy

Alduskkel [1]

- Miss Lynch

Not Voting [3]

- popsofctown, Homura, Klick

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Day will end when the timer hits zero:

(expired on 2020-03-04 17:42:53)

VoteCount 1.9

RVS Award for

Fair Randomness

goes to...

Vote: Usernamenotincluded

Um, i that's the forum code i learned from another forum, i hope that bolds alright. Points for trying?
Yeah, i don't have a random number generator, so i just punched random buttons in the calculator you can get off the start menu and used the last digit. Since there's 9 people, capricious was both 9 and 0....

Vote: popsofctown

for his biased, shameful, indignant voting system

crap... i realized right after i posted it... Capricious is gonna vote me. But you other 8 got the good end of the stick so you won't vote for me right?
Heh, i'm happy i got my voting right.

CheekyTeeky [3]

- Cat Scratch Fever, Yshtola Rhul, woodchuck321

Homura [2]

- Klick, Auro

TrueSoulEnergy [1]

- Chemist1422

Auro [1]

- Egix96

woodchuck [1]

- CheekyTeeky

Klick [1]

- TrueSoulEnergy

Alduskkel [1]

- Miss Lynch

Egix [1]

- Alduskkel

Not Voting [2]

- popsofctown, Homura

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Day will end when the timer hits zero:

(expired on 2020-03-04 17:42:53)

VoteCount 1.10

RVS Award for

Best Randomness

goes to...

The Dart Board gives me a

vote of MeMe

Hey, everyone!

Random Vote: Lemming

.

Hey, everyone!

Random Vote: Lemming

.

fix your randomizer it is broken

The Dart Board gives me a

vote of MeMe

Fix your dart board. It is broken.

Sujimichi [3]

- Klick, Auro, Yshtola Rhul

CheekyTeeky [2]

- Cat Scratch Fever, woodchuck321

Alduskkel [2]

- Miss Lynch, popsofctown

TrueSoulEnergy [1]

- Chemist1422

Auro [1]

- Egix96

woodchuck [1]

- CheekyTeeky

Klick [1]

- TrueSoulEnergy

Egix [1]

- Alduskkel

Not Voting [1]

- Sujimichi

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Day will end when the timer hits zero:

(expired on 2020-03-04 17:42:53)

let's talk about these votecounts

[Chemist1422]

see that's a level of thinking I'm incapable of at 7:30 AM

I was just thinking "suji was the counterwagon to cheeky so suji is town and klick/auro has a scum"

[Chemist1422]

VOTE: Cat Scratch Fever

When you return, Chemist why did you vote me here?

last post I saw before Rhul got shot was them pushing you

[Chemist1422]

Fun Fact.
I can single handily
Win games.

If there was a game where one players Mayor and they were the only player that can vote and I was that role.
It wouldn’t be a game.
It’d be a TSE Win.

do you ever shut up

[Chemist1422]

Fine you know what I'm not dealing with another TSE tunnel and I have to take myself out of the PoE somehow

I'm the last mason

[Chemist1422]

Because I’m the Last Mason.

VOTE: TSE

Cool

If you're VT this is essentially gamethrowing

Otherwise you just outed as scum

[Chemist1422]

TSE is probably fakeclaiming but I'm not unvoting until he rescinds

[Chemist1422]

Because I’m the Last Mason.

VOTE: TSE

Cool

If you're VT this is essentially gamethrowing

Otherwise you just outed as scum

Nah your scum trying to hide behind a Mason Claim.
If your really Mason you would have been shot.

In the one minute after I claimed, when two people have responded to my claim, and the mod probably hasn't even been online?

Yeah, go ahead, push me with that

[Chemist1422]

TSE if you're VT and you don't rescind I hope you know you've lost us the game

[Chemist1422]

Lynch me then, if you're so confident I'm scum

Just lynch TSE after, since he's forcing a thunderdome

[Chemist1422]

It has kind of been easy to tell that TSE is a mason for a while, Chemist

Then he'll get shot and you can lynch me, if scum are as confident as you

[Chemist1422]

TSE if you're VT and you don't rescind I hope you know you've lost us the game

I know a mafia when I see it.
I know hesitant to know if I’m truly the mason or not.

The only way to find out Chemist is to shoot me.
If you look at my ISO you can see, that it’s Obvme.

So if you want to take out the best player. How’s your chance to raise your gun and shoot me.

You can take your ego and shove it thanks

[Chemist1422]

TSE isn't forcing anything. No one in the game was listening to him. Just ignore his spam.

The two of us are both claiming to be the last mason

[Chemist1422]

VOTE: Chemist

this is my easy strat to clear myself as a VT is it working

i dont remember /in to this game what

yeah you /outed lol

VOTE: Homura
because rebellion was a mistake

VOTE: Chemist

this is my easy strat to clear myself as a VT is it working

i dunno can a goon shoot him to check please?

bold of you to assume I’m not a goon

VOTE: TSE

Mason hunting bad

These are all softs

The first one is mostly just RVS shenanigans, but I didn't accuse Aldu of TMI in the second one since we both knew the other was town

And I got mad at TSE in the third one because I didn't want him lowering our PoE

[Chemist1422]

I also hardclaim Mason :V

you better be joking

[Chemist1422]

These are all softs

Why would you be softing Mason?

The first is mostly a joke and the third I could pretend would be something I'd do as VT (and tbh it probably is I just needed to quote something else to activate MQ)

But the second is because it's something I would be pushing Aldu for if I was a VT, and I didn't want to do that because I thought it would've gained more traction than I'd like

[Chemist1422]

If you really were Town you Reads wouldn’t have been shit.

Oh fuck off

[Chemist1422]

Alright now that I have said the f word in public I'm gonna go die in a hole now

Bye

[Chemist1422]

Chemist you have a cute Absol plushie

Thank you

I mean softing Mason as a Mason is a bad idea, like there's no universe where you'd want to confirm yourself as a Mason because of scum shots

I'd rather slightly increase the risk of getting shot than wagon a partner who's probably better at the game than me

[Chemist1422]

can you not obfuscate this any more

[Chemist1422]

HOW IS SAYING A PUN IS GOOD A MASON SOFT

[Chemist1422]

Chemist thinks he has a buddy left.

[Chemist1422]

VOTE: Chemist

Whatever

I claimed to get myself out of the PoE so I might as well just die

[Chemist1422]

VOTE: Chemist

Whatever

I claimed to get myself out of the PoE so I might as well just die

Or you can vote Pops or Suji.
Your scum buddies.

Oh fuck off

[Chemist1422]

The thing is that I think Chemist only does what he does as town. I have a difficult time seeing a scum player who thinks they have a chance at pulling a win this game doing what he did the way he did it. I think his actions are the ones of a player who feels as if they have no agency - the actions of someone who is alone, powerless, and feels left behind and targeted with no chance at help.

that's accurate but really kinda depressing when you think about it

[Chemist1422]

but yeah part of the reason for the lurking was me hoping to dodge shots

[Chemist1422]

UNVOTE:

fine

I have homework to do that I want to get done in like an hour and a half because I have other stuff going on but I'll get back to reading once I get a chance

[Chemist1422]

well that’s a fun wall to come back to

[Chemist1422]

Okay good morning

I’m in school but I have pops’s ISOs in their town and scum games open in another tab so I’m gonna get to reading pops shortly

[Chemist1422]

Egix, who do you scumread?

Auro, are you buddying me?

pedit: can I get in on this support group

No because I'm the capricious Duchess and I don't personally scumread your towntone.

CheekyTeeky is out too because I only scumread her towntactics.

Chemist1422 is invited to submit an application.

is it too late to apply to this

[Chemist1422]

I’ve read pops’s ISO in three different games and still don’t think I can read her

If I had to say I’d say she’s a little bit towny

[Chemist1422]

I assumed maybe ML has some familiarity with CT that made it seem less impossible.

For what it's worth, I think it's absolutely believable coming from ML. It doesn't look like the kind of thing someone would fake.

@Chemist: How come you were more interested in sorting Pops first over me?

I’ve played with pops more than you iirc

[Chemist1422]

@Chemist: Can you give me a scumteam solve?

Not an informed one

[Chemist1422]

i am working on it

[Chemist1422]

What comes to mind first. Go.

CSF/TSE/Suji?

[Chemist1422]

VOTE: TSE

So Hectic doesn’t have to fix his VC

[Chemist1422]

What comes to mind first. Go.

CSF/TSE/Suji?

What would the theory be behind TSE bussing Suji today (and Suji similarly gearing up for a CFS lynch)?

From what I read neither has the other as their preferred lynch today so in a situation where bussing is not necessary but hard to work around without doing, it's definitely plausible

[Chemist1422]

Well then it's a good thing the game isn't riding on what I read

[Chemist1422]

TSE's last two votes have been on me and pops

So

[Chemist1422]

TSE's last two votes have been on me and pops

So

Are you retracing the Mason Claim?

Not at all my dude

[Chemist1422]

Chemist at the very least can I get a reads list with one sentence on each player?

Chemist - Mason
Auro - Has a towny tone and I think he has towny conviction in his reads
Klick - Has been solidly in town meta with the questions he's been asking
pops - Counterclaimed mason

but

in the scenario where it's a fakeclaim there's a lot of town motivation behind it
ML - Have not read very deeply into this slot, could be scum by PoE probably
CSF - Nothing from the slot has really given me towny vibes, and they got pushed by a couple of the dead masons before they got shot
Suji - Don't remember much from this slot, but I didn't really like their catchup that much
TSE - CCed Mason, perspective slipped in 1583 when he said pops and I were "probably" scum, when he'd know we were both scum with 100% certainty if he was really Mason, since we've both claimed it, has no real town motivation behind the fakeclaim unlike pops

[Chemist1422]

Chemist at the very least can I get a reads list with one sentence on each player?

Chemist - Mason
Auro - Has a towny tone and I think he has towny conviction in his reads
Klick - Has been solidly in town meta with the questions he's been asking
pops - Counterclaimed mason

but

in the scenario where it's a fakeclaim there's a lot of town motivation behind it
ML - Have not read very deeply into this slot, could be scum by PoE probably
CSF - Nothing from the slot has really given me towny vibes, and they got pushed by a couple of the dead masons before they got shot
Suji - Don't remember much from this slot, but I didn't really like their catchup that much
TSE - CCed Mason, perspective slipped in 1583 when he said pops and I were "probably" scum, when he'd know we were both scum with 100% certainty if he was really Mason, since we've both claimed it, has no real town motivation behind the fakeclaim unlike pops

What’s the Town motivation.
And I said “probably” because I assume Pops doesn’t have THIS much of a troll Playstyle to fake claim Mason here as Town.
Which is why I think Pops is scum.

If your Mason, (which your not I am.) from your POV Me and Pops should BOTH be scum as from Pops POV they view Me and You BOTH scum.

I don't really wanna go into this much detail about this but they're making a reasonably believable mason claim in a scenario that from their point of view, them getting shot instead of the real mason is +++ev for town

Who knows if I had the same thought process uvu

[Chemist1422]

Chemist at the very least can I get a reads list with one sentence on each player?

Chemist - Mason
Auro - Has a towny tone and I think he has towny conviction in his reads
Klick - Has been solidly in town meta with the questions he's been asking
pops - Counterclaimed mason

but

in the scenario where it's a fakeclaim there's a lot of town motivation behind it
ML - Have not read very deeply into this slot, could be scum by PoE probably
CSF - Nothing from the slot has really given me towny vibes, and they got pushed by a couple of the dead masons before they got shot
Suji - Don't remember much from this slot, but I didn't really like their catchup that much
TSE - CCed Mason, perspective slipped in 1583 when he said pops and I were "probably" scum, when he'd know we were both scum with 100% certainty if he was really Mason, since we've both claimed it, has no real town motivation behind the fakeclaim unlike pops

What’s the Town motivation.
And I said “probably” because I assume Pops doesn’t have THIS much of a troll Playstyle to fake claim Mason here as Town.
Which is why I think Pops is scum.

If your Mason, (which your not I am.) from your POV Me and Pops should BOTH be scum as from Pops POV they view Me and You BOTH scum.

I don't really wanna go into this much detail about this but they're making a reasonably believable mason claim in a scenario that from their point of view, them getting shot instead of the real mason is +++ev for town

Who knows if I had the same thought process uvu

But my CC on you = Confirmed scum
Right?

But so help a later CC is Town Indicative.

Because you literally have no town motivation to do it, unless you want to be right so badly that you'd jeopardize the game for it

Which isn't out of your townrange in my experience, but I'd be happy to be proven wrong

Neither of you would have claimed unless you felt you were the disposable member of the scumteam and we have to win in straight lynches.

So I'll find your partners today.

You realize lynching right once earns us another day, right?

[Chemist1422]

Let's see, plug in my current assumptions:

- TSE town
- pops town
- One of Auro/Suji town

That leaves the final town in CSF/ML/Chem.

I think I'd prefer a lynch somewhere in that pile

I would lynch ML.
But Auro keeps saying they are Town sooooo.

aren’t you tunneled on a solve of Suji/me/pops?

[Chemist1422]

Does Chemist strike you as dumb?

bold post to make given that you’re essentially calling me “dumb or scum” and have been since I claimed

[Chemist1422]

I'll concede that Chemist knows what he's doing.

I what

[Chemist1422]

It’s primarily just a toneread but I think he has conviction in his push on me in a towny way

[Chemist1422]

mayhaps I will build some worlds

[Chemist1422]

no assumptions to be made:

Spoiler: all possible worlds

TSE/Suji/pops
TSE/Suji/ML
TSE/Suji/CSF
TSE/Suji/Klick
TSE/Suji/Auro
TSE/pops/ML
TSE/pops/CSF
TSE/pops/Klick
TSE/pops/Auro
TSE/ML/CSF
TSE/ML/Klick
TSE/ML/Auro
TSE/CSF/Klick
TSE/CSF/Auro
TSE/Klick/Auro
Suji/pops/ML
Suji/pops/CSF
Suji/pops/Klick
Suji/pops/Auro
Suji/ML/CSF
Suji/ML/Klick
Suji/ML/Auro
Suji/CSF/Klick
Suji/CSF/Auro
Suji/Klick/Auro
pops/ML/CSF
pops/ML/Klick
pops/ML/Auro
pops/CSF/Klick
pops/CSF/Auro
pops/Klick/Auro
ML/CSF/Klick
ML/CSF/Auro
ML/Klick/Auro
CSF/Klick/Auro

35 worlds isn't too many to work down from right

[Chemist1422]

aren't you dead

[Chemist1422]

ok this worldbuilding stuff is actually pretty daunting

so, AMA while I'm rereading today

[Chemist1422]

for reference: page 40 is when D6 starts

hoo boy

[Chemist1422]

Spoiler: all possible worlds

TSE/Suji/pops

TSE/Suji/ML
TSE/Suji/CSF
TSE/Suji/Klick
TSE/Suji/Auro

TSE/pops/ML
TSE/pops/CSF
TSE/pops/Klick
TSE/pops/Auro

TSE/ML/CSF
TSE/ML/Klick

TSE/ML/Auro

TSE/CSF/Klick
TSE/CSF/Auro
TSE/Klick/Auro
Suji/pops/ML
Suji/pops/CSF
Suji/pops/Klick
Suji/pops/Auro
Suji/ML/CSF
Suji/ML/Klick

Suji/ML/Auro

Suji/CSF/Klick
Suji/CSF/Auro
Suji/Klick/Auro
pops/ML/CSF
pops/ML/Klick

pops/ML/Auro

pops/CSF/Klick
pops/CSF/Auro
pops/Klick/Auro
ML/CSF/Klick

ML/CSF/Auro
ML/Klick/Auro

CSF/Klick/Auro

So, let's talk worldbuilding

I'm starting by striking out all the TSE/pops worlds because I don't think pops's post about TSE being an obvious mason comes from them if they're partnered, and TSE's hardpush on pops today backs that up

1002 is actually a potential townslip, this isn't relevant for worldbuilding, I just wanna bring this up

I think Auro/ML's interactions near daystart aren't s/s because like

it's harder to lock with no daytalk but I don't think scum!Auro townreads scum!ML in that situation

I've literally read 3 pages and TSE's posts already make me want to stop ugh

[Chemist1422]

I'm not (currently) saying your posts are scummy I just don't like your attitude towards the other players in the game

But if you want a full explanation, let's see

You have no reason to be claiming Mason as VT here, since your intent was clearly to get me lynched, and not to create WIFOM like pops's claim was

You also perspective slipped that I wasn't Mason by saying I was "probably" scum, and it doesn't make sense for you to say if you think I could be VT, or else you wouldn't counterclaim me

I also think you aren't actively evaluating your reads and are just spewing the same thing over and over again

[Chemist1422]

whynotboth.gif

[Chemist1422]

oh yeah auro is probably just not s/s with suji for presumably obvious reasons

[Chemist1422]

Spoiler:

see that's a level of thinking I'm incapable of at 7:30 AM

I was just thinking "suji was the counterwagon to cheeky so suji is town and klick/auro has a scum"

OK YEAH

I CALLED IT AND IM LAUGHING

POPS, SUJI and CHEMIST ARE OPEN WOLFING AND USING THEIR LAST HOPE AND DEFENDING EACH OTHER!

@ML: I'm not saying that one scum is likely on the wagon is fallacious, but implying that you hunt in the wagon while not lynching outside is.

More and More reason why Auro is Town.

The proof just keeps on coming.

@Mafia (3 out of Chemist, Pops, Suji, ML)
Maybe if you all defend each other you could have a chance.
LOL no, your all fucked.
I just want a laugh.

So Chemist, Suji and Pops are the Team.
Good to know.
We need some Villian Names.

What’s you thinking Swift Deity?

I agree that most energy can be faked by a competent enough player. The problem I'm trying to overcome is whether or not you'd have the motivation to fake it.

All you have to do is believe in the SUPERSQUAD.
If you believe in it your answers simple.

The Villans are Suji, Pops and Chemist.

All you have to do Blood Wiplasher is Vote with us and get rid of these filthy Villains.

You're ok with Suji, pops, or Chemist today, Auro?

Why wouldn’t he be?
It’s the Villain team.

Do you want to lynch Pops first (even though I know you probably wanna lynch Chemist first)
Because I really wanna lynch Pops first.

Fine you know what I'm not dealing with another TSE tunnel and I have to take myself out of the PoE somehow

I'm the last mason

I doubt this.

Because I’m the Last Mason.

Because I’m the Last Mason.

VOTE: TSE

Cool

If you're VT this is essentially gamethrowing

Otherwise you just outed as scum

Nah your scum trying to hide behind a Mason Claim.
If your really Mason you would have been shot.

yep guys TSE totally didn't wanna lynch me

[Chemist1422]

btw pops remind me to talk pokemon with you sometime not during this game

[Chemist1422]

oh yeah auro is probably just not s/s with suji for presumably obvious reasons

And yet, Pops thought this was a legitimate possibility, and when I contested her on it she said she isn't good at pre-flip associatives or whatever.
Do you think it's a genuine town!Pops belief?

ask me again when it's not 10:30

[Chemist1422]

Very cool!

[Chemist1422]

Spoiler: all possible worlds

TSE/Suji/pops
TSE/Suji/ML
TSE/Suji/CSF

TSE/Suji/Klick

TSE/Suji/Auro
TSE/pops/ML
TSE/pops/CSF
TSE/pops/Klick
TSE/pops/Auro
TSE/ML/CSF

TSE/ML/Klick

TSE/ML/Auro

TSE/CSF/Klick

TSE/CSF/Auro

TSE/Klick/Auro

Suji/pops/ML
Suji/pops/CSF

Suji/pops/Klick

Suji/pops/Auro
Suji/ML/CSF

Suji/ML/Klick

Suji/ML/Auro

Suji/CSF/Klick

Suji/CSF/Auro
Suji/Klick/Auro
pops/ML/CSF

pops/ML/Klick

pops/ML/Auro

pops/CSF/Klick

pops/CSF/Auro

pops/Klick/Auro
ML/CSF/Klick

ML/CSF/Auro
ML/Klick/Auro

CSF/Klick/Auro

Revised for Klick flip

TSE/Suji
TSE/ML
TSE/CSF
TSE/Auro
Suji/pops
Suji/ML
Suji/CSF
pops/ML
pops/CSF
pops/Auro
ML/CSF
CSF/Auro

[Chemist1422]

Of note is that CSF is in 5 worlds and Auro is only in 3

[Chemist1422]

Yeah sure Klick hard-disagrees with all my opinions making me state I lost my townread, tries wagoning CSF and spends considerable effort trying to convince us that she's scum, and keeps driving a "Auro/ML are SvS lol" point when he just accused us of SvT earlier...

I haven’t read Klick for associations yet tbh

[Chemist1422]

This definitely was a game

[Chemist1422]

game was fun except the parts that weren’t

I should probably apologize for my part in those parts except there’s other factors that should probably go unsaid

[Chemist1422]

I think mechanically the reason it was so close was that it might actually be better to avoid shooting masons in the PoE

[Chemist1422]

My plan was to get shot for info but then TSE happened and I got annoyed enough to create WIFOM

[Chemist1422]

Isn't getting shot for info identical to selfvoting and asking people to vote you and flipping mason? Which would not seem like a good play.

which I also did