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VOTE: Phi Kappa Phi

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VOTE: Tapiocaphobe

Because how am I supposed to shorten that. Tapio?

most say tapio or tapioca but tbh i think tap is better

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Never had tapioca before. Is it any good?

VOTE: Phi

Gut.

Strong enough gut ping for you to move off the rvs wagon prior to reaction from Tapi. Hmm.

I mean I don't really have any reactions other than 'it's weird titus started my wagon then immediately left it' but i'm getting a nullread from that

Never had tapioca before. Is it any good?

VOTE: Phi

Gut.

Strong enough gut ping for you to move off the rvs wagon prior to reaction from Tapi. Hmm.

I can see a newbie mafia trying to cover up another mafia that way. But a SE player likely wouldn't be doing that, right?

yeah, there were better ways for her to leave the wagon if she wanted to avoid suspicion on me

@titus & cheeky: what made you guys vote for me in particular?
@titus: why did you switch off of me so quickly?

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I get this.
But you also have to consider they made an actual vote on a post they didn’t see to fond off. Or at least it looks that way to me. Thus they said “gut” and voted it.
They voted you randomly and voted the other player based on their post.
I don’t want this to be something it’s not.
It’s in no way scum motivated nor is it Town motivated.

true
maybe, but I'm not certain of that, which is why I asked
so it'd be null/NAI, yeah? would it be bad to use the two interchangably?

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WDYM by

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nvm I thought there was a difference
I figured maybe I used the wrong term because you said titus's switch comes from neither town/scum mindset and I agree, which is why I said I nullread that switch in my other post

pedit: hmm

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TSE is v townie, not liking lunar's posts

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TSE is v townie, not liking lunar's posts

Why?

the way TSE approached my post screamed townie to me + I was already disliking that mafioso post when they pushed it
lunar's mafioso post and how they approached the idea of s/s; i think after their last two posts they're pretty solidly null for me though, maybe a little itsy bitsy townie
these are very early reads so they'll probably change but this is where my head is at

Okay, I read what I had missed.

Titus changing her vote is NAI.
LunarRest using the word "mafioso" in that one post is NAI as well.

@Titus: What's your opinion on the reaction some people have to your change of vote?

I'm ok tentatively placing you as town based on the top post.

The discussion around me and my vote change is awkward and stilted. A few slots say the same thing and get nowhere but NAI, essentially repeating what came before.

What's absent is more telling. Everyone wants to know why my gut was strong enough, yet no one looked at Phi's behavior. It's not enough to make a strong case out of, but it's still interesting. Phil comes across artificial and fake in the opening sequence.

Mod: I voted Phi not Phoenix.

Fixed, thank you --P

what were people saying that's the same besides 'it's null'?
only cheeky mentioned the gut ping thing
I would like phi to come and speak, which is why I'm still voting for them, but I think most people would rather focus on the actual content that's been generated
like, I see wym with that phi post, but it's one rvs post, it's not exactly a lot to look

at

yeah, there were better ways for her to leave the wagon if she wanted to avoid suspicion on me

I like this.

VOTE: Titus

this is a weird basis to vote titus on

Phil comes across artificial and fake in the opening sequence.

I mean, given that your statement is based on 2 random filler RVS posts with no substance to them, as one could expect from very early posts, of course, isn't it a little far-fetched to say that?

No. It's farfetched to lock him as scum based off of that. To feel the ignorance of the wagon and discussion of food is an artificial distraction is not. Scum love to distract. It's a good place to start none the less. Plus, the sooner we escape RVS the better.

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I mean I don't really have any reactions other than 'it's weird titus started my wagon then immediately left it' but i'm getting a nullread from that

I don't like you answering a question for Titus. I don't like how it's weird but its a null read.

yeah, there were better ways for her to leave the wagon if she wanted to avoid suspicion on me

Why should Titus be concerned with avoiding suspicion on YOU?

the way TSE approached my post screamed townie to me + I was already disliking that mafioso post when they pushed it
lunar's mafioso post and how they approached the idea of s/s; i think after their last two posts they're pretty solidly null for me though, maybe a little itsy bitsy townie
these are very early reads so they'll probably change but this is where my head is at

You disliked the "mafioso" post but not enough to move your RVS vote.

yeah that was probably the worst way I could've gone about this, but cheeky implied I should have a reaction and I figured I should put my thoughts out
specifically in the context of s/s that lunar was thinking about the post before, she would be concerned with that
voting him to l-2 for something that I didn't really scumread felt bad, although you're right I could've been better-utilizing my vote

this is a weird basis to vote titus on

I think you're going to find a lot of what I do weird, try to see beyond the surface of people's words and look for the intent. Votes can be used as tools for sorting prior to an actual lynch. Although the effectiveness is reduced once you spell it out.

yeah you're right, I think I see what you're going for

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sorry still around, I need to reread

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alright I reread but I'm tired and need to think more so I'll post stuff tomorrow

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hello homura

so I reread 'cause I realized I wasn't analyzing everything as well as I could be

i'm not strongly TRing TSE for 31 anymore but I think the mafioso discussion was TvT

LR looked like they were genuinely trying to work out the titus vote-switch in their mind

karnage looks like genuine scumhunting town

QQ is wacky but prob town

phoenix has been asking a lot of questions and advancing the game which is pro-town, and I've read his QQ reactions as genuine, but idk

I think titus/cheeky is SvT (or very unlikely SvS)

I think titus has been generally more pro-town, and I'm townleaning her after rereading 55 and understanding the thought process, + cheeky has been lowkey tunneling titus all day like she's known who she's wanted to lynch since before the game began

BUT it's looking very likely at least one of my TRs is wrong, so I wouldn't be surprised if my titus TL is wrong too + I do like some of cheeky's posts

although cheeky is more likely scum here imo

so rn i'm thinking it's probably cheeky/?? (karnage?) or maybe titus/?? (tse?)

idk VOTE: cheeky

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VOTE: Titus

why?

Cheeky's been voting me since RVS and had a pretty static read there. He's the "bad cop". He accuses me of being evil, no matter what. You meanwhile are saying that everything I do is ok, making you the "good cop".

Yeah that makes sense except why would we try to lynch you? If I were scum I'd be going for the noobs. This is just straight up reaching.

I've felt you were off since RVS and your reactions towards my push on you have been omgus and trying to justify said omgus. Like please, we both know you're much better than this.

I would imagine it's easier to pocket the newbtowns for lylo

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oh yeah I forgot to mention

I could kinda see titus/tse if cheeky flipped town but idk

I don't really see cheeky/karnage I'm just relying on the titus read for that one