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In post 6, Micc wrote:The following cards have been discarded:
Player Name Discard TemporalLich Werewolf TrackerTitus Alien Bulletproof LoverTrueSoulEnergy Town Compulsive BodyguardEspressoPatronum Mafia NinjaGlowingOvineChimes Vanilla TownieBBmolla Tentacled TownieKerset Serial Killer Alien-ImmuneNon lmh Vanilla TownieSujimichi Mafia GoonUntrod Tripod Hirsute GoonYshtola Rhul Town CopSirCakez Werewolf CopCat Scratch Fever Alpha Werewolf
Fuck CSF.
You would have been a great Alpha Werewolf.
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My choices were 2 other Town roles.In post 17, TemporalLich wrote:TSE's discard worries me - it's a role that's godawful as scum but not that bad as town
1 being VT which I used as my Alignment.
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If your Town you Must have gotten Town Vigilante or something.In post 22, Yshtola Rhul wrote:If you saw my three cards, you would understand why.In post 20, TemporalLich wrote:I hope you're some overpowered town role because you discarded Town Cop of all things.In post 19, Yshtola Rhul wrote:Good morning! I am Y'shtola Rhul, a scholar and observer of the art of mafia.
I hope to learn a lot from this game, so feel free to go all out!
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So VT doesn’t hide it?In post 24, TemporalLich wrote:VOTE: TrueSoleEnergy
I feel confident here. I know cBG is negative utility, but that makes it worse inhindsight as it hides the value of your cards.
Kerset, I don't think you realize how much worse cBG is for you if you are scum, especially SK. It's also outright terrible for Survivor and Lyncher as well. Needless to say, cBG is the least bad for Town.
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Do you want to be a sacrificing Town Role?In post 21, TemporalLich wrote:I still think TSE's discard was worse though, Town Cop is only a bad discard because it's good town utility but also useful for non-Mafia scum
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What did you discard from your other setup’s?In post 29, TemporalLich wrote:VT makes you look a little scummy but it is a banal discard, at least VT isn't a townsided roleIn post 27, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:So VT doesn’t hide it?In post 24, TemporalLich wrote:VOTE: TrueSoleEnergy
I feel confident here. I know cBG is negative utility, but that makes it worse inhindsight as it hides the value of your cards.
Kerset, I don't think you realize how much worse cBG is for you if you are scum, especially SK. It's also outright terrible for Survivor and Lyncher as well. Needless to say, cBG is the least bad for Town.
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Did you only have 1 VT?In post 31, TemporalLich wrote:VT, Alien Sympathiser
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In all Setups.In post 33, TemporalLich wrote:in that setup where I discarded VT? No.In post 32, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:Did you only have 1 VT?In post 31, TemporalLich wrote:VT, Alien Sympathiser
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In post 35, TemporalLich wrote:If you can't gather that I got more than one VT across all setups by me saying I got more than one setup in the setup I discarded VT...your thought streamer isn't workingIn post 34, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:In all Setups.In post 33, TemporalLich wrote:in that setup where I discarded VT? No.In post 32, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:Did you only have 1 VT?In post 31, TemporalLich wrote:VT, Alien Sympathiser
I don’t understand this.In post 36, TemporalLich wrote:ebwop: I got more than one VT in the setup I discarded VT
I don’t see where you mentioned getting more then 1 VT.
And I think your bullshitting because I only gotten 1 VT card and it was in this setup.
VOTE: TL
I don’t like your entrance here.
It’s bad.
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Just for the future.In post 49, EspressoPatronum wrote:Upon further reflection, the Alpha WW discard by CSE isn't as good as I initially thought it was. It's only good as a role if you pair it with a WW alignment card. WW Alpha is redundant in every other case bcz non-WWs don't appear guilty to seers.
I don't think it's a bad discard, but I no longer think it's a +town discard. I'd lump it in with the other scum discards.
It’s CSF.
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Oh.In post 61, EspressoPatronum wrote:I read up on lovers in Greatest Idea on the maf wiki... if my understanding is correct, ALL people with the lover modifier get matched together.In post 56, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:Oh @Espresso
I think Titus had a interesting discard too.
But at the same time it’s questionable.
They discarded Alien Bulletproof Lover.
I’m wondering why exactly they chose to discard it.
Like Town Bulletproof Lover. Is like really good.
I'm any case, I had a lover draw in I think setup A + I chose to discard it. Imo, with so many potential kills every night, lovers become even worse that normal games.
You don’t choose your lover.
I understand now.
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I don’t like the way your going about all this.In post 65, TemporalLich wrote:TSE: I got two VT's in the setup where VT was my discard. 33 should tell you I didn't only have one VT on that setup, and it can't be 0 otherwise I wouldn't be able to discard a VT
If you're scumreading me because logic eludes you then you're most likelyeither scum or won't help in LyLo anyway.
pedit: the alignment card push seems towny
And what if I said
“Bolded”
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Elaborate on those reads.In post 67, GlowingOvineChimes wrote:So far in my town pile are EP and TL
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I’m assuming when your saying Setup A your referring to yourself correct?In post 70, TemporalLich wrote:You do realize there areIn post 68, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:I don’t like the way your going about all this.In post 65, TemporalLich wrote:TSE: I got two VT's in the setup where VT was my discard. 33 should tell you I didn't only have one VT on that setup, and it can't be 0 otherwise I wouldn't be able to discard a VT
If you're scumreading me because logic eludes you then you're most likelyeither scum or won't help in LyLo anyway.
pedit: the alignment card push seems towny
And what if I said“Bolded”actually applies to you.13VT cards in this setup right? It is definitely possible I got two VTs and you got a VT in Setup A (which isn't this setup, otherwise you'd see me having a VT discard).
You trying to "no u" me feels pseudo-OMGUSy because of that
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WRONG.In post 77, GlowingOvineChimes wrote:EP has been game solving- something I consider town sidedIn post 69, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:Elaborate on those reads.In post 67, GlowingOvineChimes wrote:So far in my town pile are EP and TL
TL has done so to a lesser extent and was the first to do so
I was the first to do so.
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In post 12, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:In post 6, Micc wrote:The following cards have been discarded:
Player Name Discard TemporalLich Werewolf TrackerTitus Alien Bulletproof LoverTrueSoulEnergy Town Compulsive BodyguardEspressoPatronum Mafia NinjaGlowingOvineChimes Vanilla TownieBBmolla Tentacled TownieKerset Serial Killer Alien-ImmuneNon lmh Vanilla TownieSujimichi Mafia GoonUntrod Tripod Hirsute GoonYshtola Rhul Town CopSirCakez Werewolf CopCat Scratch Fever Alpha Werewolf
Fuck CSF.
You would have been a great Alpha Werewolf.
In post 13, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:Just looking at this.
There is a chance for majority to be scum.
Which is just awful.
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I don’t think scum!you says this.In post 81, Yshtola Rhul wrote:You can believe what you like, but that is exactly what happened.In post 47, EspressoPatronum wrote:Can you tell me what cards you rolled in the other two setups?In post 38, Yshtola Rhul wrote:[...]
If I had the choice of a scum role, I would have picked it.
Sadly, I did not roll a single alignment other than town in all three setups. It's quite distressing, actually.
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As it stands, I do not believe that you didn't roll scum in any setup.
My Setup A cards were Town Conspiracy Theorist, Vanilla Townie, and Town Seer.
My Setup B cards were Town Roleblocker, Town Lynchbait, and Town One-Shot Vigilante.
If it helps, the Alignment card I chose was Town Gravedigger. My role card was something I knew I would want to pick up, so the Town Cop was discarded.
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They could have chosen Cop but something better showed up.
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^In post 90, SirCakez wrote:Also Titus why not just ask me why I discarded Cop rather than indirectly asking via UT
I also wonder this.
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Yes and I got it In this setup.In post 93, TemporalLich wrote:I got two VTs in setup A, I don't discount the possibility that you drew a VT as well
Along with 2 other Town Roles.
In my Setup A I had 0 Town.
My options were SK Maf Immune, Werewolf Paranoid 1 Shot Gun Owner (I think that’s how it’s said)
And a Mafia role I don’t remember.
Did you get all Town in Setup A?
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And this setup is my triple Town setup.In post 99, TemporalLich wrote:Setup A was a triple town setup for me, my role there was Seer Lover
And Setup A was my triple scum setup.
Did you have a triple scum setup?
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LMAO.In post 105, BBmolla wrote:I used Survivor for alignmentIn post 50, EspressoPatronum wrote:@GlowingOvineChimes, @BBmolla, @Non Imh, @Yshtola RhulIn post 6, Micc wrote:The following cards have been discarded:
Player Name Discard TemporalLich Werewolf TrackerTitus Alien Bulletproof LoverTrueSoulEnergy Town Compulsive BodyguardEspressoPatronum Mafia NinjaGlowingOvineChimes Vanilla TownieBBmolla Tentacled TownieKerset Serial Killer Alien-ImmuneNon lmh Vanilla TownieSujimichi Mafia GoonUntrod Tripod Hirsute GoonYshtola Rhul Town CopSirCakez Werewolf CopCat Scratch Fever Alpha Werewolf
You all discarded town. What card did you use for alignment?
No need to go into roles yet.
Nb - thank you @TSE for claiming your alignment card already. I'll put you down as VT alignment.
Way to stay neutral.
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I would defend molla on this and say Survivor alignment Claiming could be scummy.In post 106, SirCakez wrote:Why would you not claim that in your first post?
But they claimed it. Just not in their first post.
So it is rather odd they decided that right then and there would be the right time to claim it rather then their first post.
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Not even you?In post 108, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:How did you come up with these tiers?In post 59, EspressoPatronum wrote:In post 51, Titus wrote:Espresso, why no comment on Cakes discard?I've been looking at most of the scum discards as roughly the same - etter than a town discard but not necessarily AI. Kerset's jumped out as +town though because it would be an amazing scum ability for maf/WW/SK but less useful for town.In post 49, EspressoPatronum wrote:[...]
I don't think [CSF'd discard is] a bad discard, but I no longer think it's a +town discard. I'd lump it in with theother scum discards.
If I had to rank the others in terms of how much I like them, I'd say:
Great:
Kerset - SK alien immune
Good:
TL - WW tracker
Cake - WW cop
Null:
Suji - maf goon
CSF - alpha WW
Bad/not useful for our info:
Titus - alien BP lover
UT - hirsute maf goon
SK alien immune is a whatever discard. I've played this game like three times on this site andno one has ever picked alien alignment
WW tracker seems like a pretty bad discard
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What’s your reason for this vote?
What inspired you to vote this?
Choose an option.
A) Top Wagon
B) Random Fuckin Voting
C) You agree with a player’s opinion on TL
D) You have your own opinion you decided not to share
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So you can legit be anything?In post 112, Non lmh wrote:chose the wild card for alignment
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Alright.In post 117, TemporalLich wrote:I did not roll triple scum for any setup.In post 114, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:And this setup is my triple Town setup.In post 99, TemporalLich wrote:Setup A was a triple town setup for me, my role there was Seer Lover
And Setup A was my triple scum setup.
Did you have a triple scum setup?
What card did you use as your alignment.
Like discarded to be your alignment.
What card was it?
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In post 118, SirCakez wrote:What's the wild card?
Knowing Molla he would just not care and claim whenever. So I could buy it.
In post 106, SirCakez wrote:Why would you not claim that in your first post?
Then why would you say
this
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So did I don’t you remember?In post 124, TemporalLich wrote:I used a VT for alignment this setup
So why didn’t you say that sooner?
TBH when I said I used VT wouldn’t it make more sense for you to say you also use VT?
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Alright. Fair.In post 125, SirCakez wrote:B/c after the question I realized who I was asking lolIn post 123, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:In post 118, SirCakez wrote:What's the wild card?
Knowing Molla he would just not care and claim whenever. So I could buy it.In post 106, SirCakez wrote:Why would you not claim that in your first post?
Then why would you sayin the first place?this
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So you get Survivor Vigilante by any chance?In post 131, BBmolla wrote:I'm pro-town in spirit but obv believe that as you will
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Not my intention but ok.In post 135, BBmolla wrote:Stop PR fishing me tyIn post 132, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:So you get Survivor Vigilante by any chance?In post 131, BBmolla wrote:I'm pro-town in spirit but obv believe that as you will
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VOTE: non Imh
@TL
So you like Town over Scum yeah?
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Yes.In post 158, Yshtola Rhul wrote:Does anybody have any questions? It appears this game has stalled out.
Why has it stalled out?
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Then here’s your chance to be the town leader and show everyone how to proceed beyond this point.In post 160, Yshtola Rhul wrote:It appears to me that the primary engagements causing the game to move forward have resolved without incident, and people are not quite certain how to proceed beyond this point.In post 159, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:Yes.In post 158, Yshtola Rhul wrote:Does anybody have any questions? It appears this game has stalled out.
Why has it stalled out?
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Their a sneaky cat this game.In post 204, Kerset wrote:Cat Scratch are you trying to fool us?
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What’s your thoughts on Non again?