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woo

VOTE: TrueSoulEnergy

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I mean I wouldn't exactly be broken up about the prospect of mislynching today; even if the wagon we end up getting together is shitty, it still gives more information than a policy lynch does.

This is not true.
A policy lynch can give just as much info as a regular one.

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+ info lynching is way shittier than policy lynching.

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how a wagon moves, what the counterwagons are. who gets on and who doesn't.
none of this is different for a policy lynch than a regular lynch.

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how a wagon moves, what the counterwagons are. who gets on and who doesn't.
none of this is different for a policy lynch than a regular lynch.

They still exist, true, but with a policy lynch, people's reasons for joining or not joining it are generally not related to their alignment.

I mean u going hard defense on TSE, and that's info that's gonna be useful tomorrow. More useful if we know what TSEs align is.
So yer 'no info from policy lynches' stance is kinda nonsensisical.

what do ya think of me pushing for a info lynch, yet calling info lynching crappy?

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Faction Ratio is 37:6:6:1.

There is a 26% chance we'll lynch an anti-town player. Assuming a completely unbiased lynch.
74% chance we lynch town.

could be we get loads of mislynches, eh?
so chance to hit town is whatevers.

no more than 7 pages got it.

lol

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I'll need to go see if hectic plays every d1 like this but for someone who claims to be lurking/observing he is posting a lot of nothing

He's doing a Wake impersonation.
Have u never played with Wake?

@Egix: u too

there was someone i meantto ask this of, butI don't remember who.

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i'd unvote the energy-guy, but I don't buy the claim. at all.
pedit: lol

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I didn't suggest info lynching? I suggested just playing the game normally, which is probably going to result in a scramble to find a wagon amenable to 26 people and the result is probably going to be a pretty bad lynch... but the events that led to it will still be more useful than a policy lynch.

As of this post, I agree with this position. I'm clearly behind. Taking notes, etc.

I didn't suggest info lynching? I suggested just playing the game normally, which is probably going to result in a scramble to find a wagon amenable to 26 people and the result is probably going to be a pretty bad lynch... but the events that led to it will still be more useful than a policy lynch.

Going to agree with this too.

ŵould lynch these, Egix or SS and be happy.
would lynch A50, and do a little dance, always.

would lynch, and go 'meh' if ya flip town: maybe not

all

of the rest of yall?

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Here's a game where Hectic was way different D1.

I disapprove equally of hyperposting and hyperghosting.
VOTE: gobble
to generate some discussion

ur Hectic thing is null.
i approve of gobble vote tho

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Here's a game where Hectic was way different D1.

he was town that game, doesn't that mean he is somewhat likely to be scum here?

@Hectic: do u have meta w Nero?

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There's no rational basis for this. The progression of your posts is really bad up through this post TSE. Get better please.

U don't believe he actually repped out?

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but there are plenty of town that post reasonless read list. Mastina for instance.

and not gonna lie, I'm still a bit salty.

What do u think of profii?

Go look at the lists KM posted. See if you can spot WHY I pushed them to explain.

At this point their follow up posts trying to dodge explaining are actually far more damning than the problem with the supposed reads.

I've got about 45 minutes till I have to go to work. I'll try and do another pass specifically on profii and see what I see.

Drix would be a goood lunch also.

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noblisse oblige.

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In terms of scum pings... I dont think it's ever going to be possible to track 6/6/1 or whatever the setup is all at once so if we are lynching scummy dudes then the game will start to resolve itself over time

<3

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Hey all.

There's nothing I hate more than Day 1. If you gave me the option of playing a neutral hated survivor, or Day 1, I'd pick the survivor every single time. I'll be taking notes in the background for now. Someone should let me know when we enter Day 2.

Observing for now.

Honestly I think Hectic is scummy because this is the second time he's brought this up and now it feels like he's covering for lack of content

yeeah. supes hard to believe ya wouldn't know 'wake on day 1' post when ya see one.

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towny for him.

ey. Do I know ya?

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Since when is there more then 1 Mafia Team?

is this a fake town slip?

yeh

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why are you shading chem for it?

chem recently co-modded a game w wake in it is why.

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noblisse oblige.

You've fallen straight into my trap.

Lol.
I win. Twice.

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If this is important to solving Hectic, can you explain 'Wake on day 1'?

I don't think it is, but it's relevant to solving people around Hectic.
'Wake on day 1' is that 'i hate day1 and am not gonna do anything'-thing.

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why are you shading chem for it?

chem recently co-modded a game w wake in it is why.

ok what does that tell w/r/t chemist's alignment?

chem was like *lynch Hec cause no contrib on day is bad* which is disingenuous if chem sees hec-post as memeing.
also *shrugs*

Checkmate.

curses on yer house

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yeah but you didn't ask chem if he knew wake, you shaded him for it. was there a question that I missed?

if it was such a concern that chemist would be an opportunistic scum, why brush it off instead of interrogating?

i'd unvote the energy-guy, but I don't buy the claim. at all.

chemis not who i currently prefer to lynch, which is why no hardpush.

would he care so much to prove a point if it wasn't to look cool.

I do like to look cool tho

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Titus is a shorter name than TSE's so is easier to vote.

eyy. coolio.
VOTE: Titus

to be clear: loud-foo not gonna exist in 50p game cause it's annoying to mod and mechanically too uninteresting to bother.
Also, it's easy as pie to claim roleblocked tomorrow, so why

not

claim it as scum.

Chemist read is also a read and not sarcasm (@dave, tho u used the word 'sarcasm' correctly! so concrats.)
Also never claimed i was trying to 'figure him out', so nyah at insomnia.

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Also, it's easy as pie to claim roleblocked tomorrow, so why not claim it as scum.

Imagine forcing a scum roleblocker to stay on Titus every night.

That kinda sounds amazing, don't you think?

Even better, we might be forcing a scum roleblocker to stay on Titus... who is also scum, and we can lynch her on like D5 or D6 or something. Sounds like a win-win to me.

see, scum have this esoteric ability, where they are sometimes able to say things that are not always 100% true.
They don't actually have to be roleblocked to say they have been.

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He should probs explain why he felt the need to vote Titus when already voting her.

1. 'Titus' was easy to type.
2. It became clear to me that my reasoning to not believe the claim in the first place was not as trivially commonsense as I had originally thought, and needed to be spelled out. I wanted people to read the reasoning and a post with a vote in it has more visibility than one without.

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Tictac

Just to confirm, your read on chemist is a serious one? Can you explain it?

yes. push on Hectic for reasonig that I believe to be fake. (the Wake thing, which I believe Chem would recognize having co modded a game in which wakes day1 behaviour was a point of contention).

Also, do you have history (the negative kind, not meta) with A50?

i mean those two things are the same.
A50 has extensive meta as lying town, which makes him my preferred policy. I mentioned the fact as a joke, cause I don't actually believe such a policy is in any way achievable here.

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You're honestly sitting on a policy lynch and someone STRAIGHT UP LYING (fypov) is not better of a vote / chase??????

u know who else is lying?
Titus is.

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There's a inertia pile on me, a few folks figured u were scummiest of the lurkers and Black Ranger being the first to mention scum-neighbors in a neighborhood is apparently scummy.

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Perhaps I have played with wake, ever and have a reading comprehension level above a 6th grader?

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Perhaps I have played with wake, ever and have a reading comprehension level above a 6th grader?

Perhaps we should add jackass to your list of offenses.

tbh this is probably accurate.
no personal offense is meant, and my apologies if it is taken.

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The thing with tictac pointing out Wake's meta felt weird to me, generally weird = scummy. Wake, who is modding the game btw not playing it, is someone who is known to say "I hate Day 1" and then proceeds to lurk for the entire day. Hectic's doing the same thing here, the difference being that Hectic is actually playing the game whereas if he wanted to imitate Wake's playstyle he would just continue to lurk, which he's not. There's no correlation between their play here.

alas, for all my affectations of intellectual superiority i have sadly yet to unlock the elusive secrets of acausal mafia-playing. It is therefore tragically always the case that every single post of mine must be based on those posts that come

earlier

in the cosmic order and

not

on those posts that arrive

later

.

Also, why does the specific focus on 'Wake' matter, since you agree that Hectic was obviously memeing in 862?

Town hunts is overestimating town, especially on D1, especially on a 50p game. Look how people reacts to posts thinking "gotcha" (

tictac's post about Titus

, you talking about Aaron)

ouch.

also, i can see it's not gonna happen today, so.

VOTE: NotAJumbleOfNumbers

jumble come back pls

UNVOTE: NotAJumbleOfNumbers

jumble if you're around let's talk

hi i'm around

why are you only interacting with stuff directly relating to you

I find this portion of Chemist ISO hilarious.

VOTE: Chemist1422

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So I wonder if there are scum in the naked vote sheeple?

Is this a real question? I'd be real surprised if all the scumz were among the active growd.
How ya feel about lynching chemist?
dude has meta for getting paralyed as scum, and the little content that he does have is scummy.
I mean if we just wanna get

something

to the noose, then sure, let's listen to a second-hand report from drizz, it's not like the most horrible of all options.
if we wanna lynch scum however, we should:
VOTE: Chemist1422

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This is twice you've voted the person you're already voting. your justification for the initial vote was that a portion of his ISO is funny. This post contains no argument. Do you care about convincing anyone else?

Kinda? It's never really been my experience that people sheep arguments, so I guess I care more about directing attention to people I find scummy, and people can find their own reasoning from there.
I could repeat the thing about his Hec-push, but I doubt it'll convince people who didn't get convinced the first time.

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I mean, it's not untrue.
atm things look like BR gonna get lynched, and it'snot like I have a TR there.
I'll give intent and hammer if it get's to that point, but intil then I'd rather push a scumread than a null, and maybe it'll take wind? One never knows.

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Sawcon fallacy only applies to food-item choices.
I think insomnia is mixing up lynching and lunching.

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VOTE: Not Known 15
I'll consolidate in 24 h, but wanna see if this takes wind first.
Would also do Jackal711 (i assume he's still part of this)

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I mean Stranger Things is past it's third season already.

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Honestly I probably chose jamelia first because they were someone I had to read the games of a couple months back

Which Jamelia-games did ya read?

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So probs the one where he was scum against RC, and not the one where he was useless on day1 and flipped town.
He doesn't have a huge amount of meta, but activity/engagement level is NAI for him, at least on day 1.

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yet u quoted (i think) his entire ISO, and not just the part where he jokes w hectic
so the uselessness is implicitly a part of the push.

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jokes w hectic

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VOTE: Jackal711

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Black Ranger is the lynch regardless of this late day shit he's doing. Should've played the fucking game earlier. You are the weakest link, goodbye.

I mean, let's be honest with ourselves.
He's most definitely not the weakest link, or the scummiest link.
He just happens to have a wagon on, and w 50 players not many care a whole lot of dayplay.
VOTE: Black Ranger
consolidation time.

L-???

also: I wanted to use the phrase "be the chain you wish to see upon the world" in this post, but I could not make it fit naturally.

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I think he's hammered tbh, but haven't actually counted.
VOTE: Chemist1422

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VOTE: Jackal711
chill, we have 6 days. we not gonna no-lynch.

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Come on now folks.
There is a wagon that is not on Black Ranger!
That is all the needs to be known!
For too long have the lurky oppressed the active with their distasteful presense!
Vote for Jackal711 is a vote for Freedom!

+ he like totes posted in scum-pt and that's why no prod. that super sounds like a real thing.

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Hey Ranger, can u go read that Jackal post in context, and vote for him after?
That one read he expressed is faketastic.

+it's a way to maybe survive and what u doing now isn't working. I like get not wanting to be survivalistic, but there's a limit to how long that actually makes sense.

pedit: oh come on now

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If it takes my lynch to get people to play seriously,

u think u can make people play seriously by getting lynched?
where u get that idea from?

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I believe there was a general fatigue close to 100 pages. The tendency is for people to become more frustrated and tired with the dispersion of votes.

I mean people could always choose to

not

disperse the votes.
2 wagons is not dispersion of votes. 4 is.

There is no reason why 50p game

must

be tiring and high effort. Not every case must be a 3 page dissertation of some minute detail or a pattern of meta from multiple games.
There's a perfectly good counterwagon for Ranger and that's Jackal at the mo.

Aspersions of quoted "Heroism" are thrown yet there are nine slots not voting anything rn. Maybe that's a drag we are more familiar with, but it's no less deserving of ire.

In the end however, the defeatism is pointless. In time, the deadline will come, and with it will come deadline-pressure.

Something

will be lynched this day. Would I like the day to end sooner? sure. do I think trying to get a non-ranger lynch is pointless? no.

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VOTE: SausasaurusRex[/v}

vote naked gang

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VOTE: SausasaurusRex

lol

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He was at l-1 by my count.
very on the ball, much high effort from bob.

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Time to put my pants back on?
I think it is.
VOTE: Jackal711

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I don't think 1578 comes from groupscum, so town or sk.

He's unsure enough about himself to have definitely shown that to his mates, and his mates would have vetoed that post so hard.

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I don't hate the Tictac wagon enough to prefer no lynch, but I get "Bad playstyle lynchbait" vibes off the vanity wagon with no explanation stuff.

Can people wagoning him at least promise if he claims a weak to middling PR they won't just move on to another fresh wagon?

ya, don't worry. I don't think I'll bother claiming

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Hectic town for not being another apathetic player but actually working to engage the town into voting on a wagon.

nah. I figure he should have known better.
pedit: oh ye RCE also scum, but one of those hard to explain reads, just keep that of

impact

vs apparent content

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Don't forget that Titus slot claimed LOUD bodyguard. she has kinda tried to downplay that part.
that way youll lynch her eventually

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Jackal slot is kinda absurdly hard to lynch. I'm betting that there's a reason for that. Probs same team as hectic.

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Why do you think I should've known better, bud? Have I played with you before?

it's just a personality read, but i think it's a good one.
the things u push me for feel too

conventional

for u to actually believe what u saying.

If someone's gonna actually bother with meta I recommend checking yer stance on info-lynches, cause I bet u are against them usually, and I don't think that's a standard part of the Wake-persona.

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oh garm a townread btw, from earlygame stuff i don't remember exactly.

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it's just a personality read, but i think it's a good one.

Basically: I don't believe u this basic.

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Sure, I would rather lynch NotAJumbleOfNumbers, but you're a scumlean and I gotta push people to lynch you over no-lynching.

lol no. u would still be on jackal or u would have cased jumble if that was the case. u wanted this, and probs got it, so congrats

Could we get a claim? <3

nah

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how many fee hours

deadline is the 22nd

Woah, no need to inform everyone of that.

u think u gonna pull a second fakehammer? lol

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I mean yeah I wanted it, I'm not denying that. I wanted Jumble more

No u did not. yer Jumble push was 100% informed, using the "informed ability" meaning of informed. As in ya basically said "i am pushing Jumble" but no actual pushing occurred.

Jackal was a garbage lynch.

again: i don't believe u think what is now happening is actually better.

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tictac even if you're VT you should claim a PR

it probably gets you out of a lynch

try claiming idk...neighbourizer or something

my money's on some cop claim, perhaps a modifier or something with it

ech, fine.
even night vig

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^that's l-1 btw.

last advise to the no doubt countless vigs: town does not win if the game dies of inactivity. Shoot a lurker.

I'd say shoot titus for that inane suggestion to shoot at failed wagons, but she's gonna get hung anyway if this game even has a second day..

pedit: fukkit, i'm trying to have a cool goodbye scene here!!

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aww.
et tu scratchy?
(don't answer)

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I have no idea

Maybe, maybe not

:3

I'm Shrödinger lynched
lol

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so kinda fitting that it was u Scratch

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yes, that's the reason.

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what do ya think?

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indeed

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...

yes

Who do you think is scum from the other team?

again: lolno.
there's like 3 people who actually play the wifom game, and u know them all by name.

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+RC that's all i know of

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wake plays wifom? not in my experience.
be sure to link that for the nice folks tomorrow.

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LOL Wake is sucky as scum. I doubt you'd copy

that

.

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^that's l-1 btw.

last advise to the no doubt countless vigs: town does not win if the game dies of inactivity. Shoot a lurker.

I'd say shoot titus for that inane suggestion to shoot at failed wagons, but she's gonna get hung anyway if this game even has a second day..

pedit: fukkit, i'm trying to have a cool goodbye scene here!!

in case this twi

doesn't

last for days.

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I thought 798 by kagesong was hilarious.
1678 by Norway also made me short water from my nose.
Definitely a night-action weighted game, but that's not necessarily bad.
I don't think achieving a lynch was ever in question, it just couldn't be on scum ever
the vigs need backups, and backups of backups. tbh I was surprised there weren't like 10 of us.

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so who killed who?

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It was surprising to me that so many players who were alive have apparently never encountered tunneling in their mafia career? It is in fact a thing that happens with some regularity to most players.
If nero has a vendetta, what is the thing he was trying to avenge? Because "he tunnels me every game" is a phenomenon I think everyone encounters at some point from someone. It's called "playstyle clash", and there's not a malicious reason for it.
The first post I read as genuinely toxic, the first post that seemed intended to hurt the person, and not just attack someones play was the one where you compared nero to yer ex.
imma borrow some wisdon from daves sig: "Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity"
These are trying times, and this game does get heated on occasion, so lets all try to keep in mind that this is a game, and it's not nice to take out-of-game frustrations and take them out on people who are on this site just to play with us and escape their own troubles.

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I thought he killed Kirari tho, so Psychologist should give a negative?
But he was ascetic, so, eh?

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ALL PTs will be revealed post-game.

grumblemumble
guh
git