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7 votes is like < 1/3 of the lynch threshold. It was just an RVS wagon. If you started playing this game on pages 1-2, who do you think would've been a better wagon?In post 154, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:
Not that I “Do” want to be wagoned.In post 147, Pink Ball wrote:Wait so you DO want to be wagoned?
I just think people should be wagoned for something they did. How they did it. Why they did it.
Not wagoned with over 7 votes without even posting.
You all should know I’m not toxic anymore.
Heck even Chemist should know that.
But I don’t blame Chemist because he votes me every chance he gets. Regardless of alignment.- Cat Scratch Fever
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Why would he would fakeclaim Loud Bodyguard as scum though?In post 322, Nero Cain wrote:
shoulda used a better fakeclaim then.In post 320, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:
Not if I have anything to say about it.In post 318, Nero Cain wrote:fonz we are lynching TSE today, vote there- Cat Scratch Fever
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What is the contradiction hereIn post 350, bob3141 wrote:But your saying he is town. That doesnt match up with what you say your gut reaction is.- Cat Scratch Fever
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Also what is your read on TSE?In post 352, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:
What is the contradiction hereIn post 350, bob3141 wrote:But your saying he is town. That doesnt match up with what you say your gut reaction is.- Cat Scratch Fever
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eh I don't disagreeIn post 358, Nero Cain wrote:he prob DOES have a loud mod. BG is just a safe claim to make as scum. He wasn't even that close to a lynch. Why claim so early?
I just think in a game with this much death, claiming bg and living even to day 3 is like questionable lol- Cat Scratch Fever
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I actually don't really buy this.In post 364, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:I shouldn’t keep doing this but Nero is getting on my nerves.
“I didn’t even know I was being voted I just claimed it because the role suicides itself”
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Do you think what TSE described in 364 is truthful? Namely that he didn't realize there were votes on him before he claimed?In post 393, AaronFrost wrote:bob I've already answered why I think TSE is likely town. It's not a read I'm willing to die on, but it's one of the only reads I have right now.
If you want me to comment on his actual play, there's nothing AI. The scum motivated wagon on him is what points to him being town. I'm not gonna keep repeating myself.
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If you scumread TSE, it's not too difficult to see how Kirari came up with the reads she did, and I think her read lists demonstrate that she's been sorting.
Her reads are pretty close to mine.
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I'm town on insomnia, Nero, Kirari, Pink Ball, tictac.
Aside from TSE, I'd be willing to lynch profii, Elsa, Egix, Drixx.
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Hectic can you please be townier so I can claim masons with you?
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insomnia, Nero, and Kirari all feel town based on meta. I think they've all shown genuine efforts at solving this game, Nero in particular.In post 502, Drixx wrote:I'm town on insomnia, Nero, Kirari, Pink Ball, tictac.
Aside from TSE, I'd be willing to lynch profii, Elsa, Egix, Drixx.
Pink Ball and tictac are weaker town reads. Pink Ball feels carefree with his votes. I think I know why he scumreads TSE, and I agree with it. He would be a stronger townread if this weren't multiball. tictac is town because I think 57 is towny for him.
I also believe all of these players except maybe Pink Ball will also be easier to read as the game goes on, because I am generally more impressed with their town games than their scumgames. I'm not too worried about them because they will become easier to read over time.
I believe TSE slipped when he said he hadn't seen the votes on him when he claimed Loud Bodyguard; he obviously had just by looking at timestamps of the posts he's responding to. Also if you look at who he scumreads on his wagon, his reads aren't consistent there. He first thinks Jackal is scum on his wagon but then later forgets to list Jackal as scum on his wagon in 163 and then quickly covers it up later.
profii is scummy because his push on the naming of the two scum groups is kind of stupid.
Elsa is just a gut read. Egix has been diverting away from TSE scum and I've jotted down in my notes that he could be a partner with TSE.
Drixx, I think your entrance posts were kind of tonally awkward and now you're pushing Kirari because they ... don't want to explain their reads. They're clearly confident about their ability to read you, and their unwillingness to explain reads doesn't mean they don't have reasons to back them up. And having played with Kirari before (hi :3) I think her wheel of reads are town indicative for her.- Cat Scratch Fever
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I didn't understand this. What is your read on Kirari?In post 520, kagesong wrote:This early in the game it seems unlikely to have reads that strong. I'm in the same boat with KM. It looks exactly like you're saying, I have reads, look at me, I'm so town. Both of you. But I'm not sure I see you on the same team by any means.
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It's not my first time playing with you.In post 607, Elsa Jay wrote:
Honest question, dont gotta reveal your alt if true, but how can you gut read me if this is your first time playing with me? Or are you actually saying you don't trust me from this first impression?In post 511, Cat Scratch Fever wrote: Elsa is just a gut read. Egix has been diverting away from TSE scum and I've jotted down in my notes that he could be a partner with TSE.
Setting that aside, I don't think it's necessary to have past experience with someone to gut read someone, no?- Cat Scratch Fever
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ExplainIn post 647, The Fonz wrote:Anyway, I'm going LA now. Please give some scrutiny to Sausa when he reappears, one off entry post then vanished warrants attention. I also think CSF is probably the most likely scum of the CSF/Nero/Kirari troika.
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If you only had 5 partners in a 50-person game, it's pretty safe to assume there's another scum faction yeah? Hence fake townslipIn post 697, kagesong wrote:I really dislike your constant insistence that you're just observing, but playing anyway.
However, I would like to note that I agree with this position. I don't see this as a slip at all. There were plenty of notices about the set up. This is either dumb, or attempting to mislead somehow I think. I'm not sure, how....- Cat Scratch Fever
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I have no idea how this relates to what I said tbhIn post 984, Elsa Jay wrote:Well if someone is as easy to read as a picture book there's no problem. But I'm atleast Middle School Japanese reading comprehension levels needed to read. So you being able to read me is weird.- Cat Scratch Fever
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What is he lying about?In post 841, Elsa Jay wrote:In post 819, Black Ranger wrote:The hood does not have a list of people with access to it. It actually says the opposite.
I can 100% say you are a liar, my friend. Or have you not checked recently?
VOTE: Black Ranger
Either a liar about being in a hood or just generally trying to hide info from town. I don't like either option.
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To buy them some time to live a few more daysIn post 854, AaronFrost wrote:Why does scum claim loud bodyguard, a claim which will easily be disproven if he's still alive tomorrow and no one gets the loud message?
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How would you know this unless you're also in the hood?In post 1011, Elsa Jay wrote:About not knowing everyone in his hood. I thought that was obvious?- Cat Scratch Fever
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Do you still think he was lying after reading these posts? Why is your vote still on him? and lol at the unnecessary discreditIn post 1019, Elsa Jay wrote:This has also been established through my context talk with Almost.
Not reading me isn't good evidence of the gut read of yours working right.
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What gave you this impression as opposed to me genuinely having a townread on the two of them?In post 1074, The Fonz wrote:
I feel like you are trying to ingratiate yourself with a Nero/Kirari block, siding with them but showing much less conviction in your stances than they do, somewhat hiding behind them. Anyway as y'all know I'm LA so signing off for the rest of the day now.In post 1068, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:Fonz, why do you think I'm scum?
pedit: kage, take a break from this game. This game will be here when you're back; there's literally 50 people here.- Cat Scratch Fever
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There are some old scum games of his from like 2017 that suggest his scum style is to take the time to come up with a lot of fake analysis but to not post very often. His posts in AvT seem to fall into that general profile too. I wouldn't say completely outside his scumrange, but I think he's more town than not.In post 1092, Kirari Momobami wrote:
Not really, he's definitely posting more independently than he did in AvT but I haven't seen him separate from Cerb that often. Do you think he is outside his scumrange? What games are you thinking of?In post 1089, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:Kirari, is Drixx's real time posting slightly out of his scum range?
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Why do you scumread Elsa though? Aside from him being on your wagonIn post 1124, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:Because I don’t necessarily disagree with the Elsa push.
They were on my starting wagon after all.- Cat Scratch Fever
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Kirari, I don't think Drixx's overall post count is ever high as either alignment, but he comes into the thread and comments on things currently happening in the thread as opposed to long catchup posts. I generally think this is towny, especially if someone doesn't really do this as scum.
yeah granted I haven't liked his tone either. I don't actually dislike this push; I'm just a little surprised the TSE wagon seems to be falling apart and we're all going off in our own directions.- Cat Scratch Fever
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yeah this is pretty much what's happening I thinkIn post 1125, Kirari Momobami wrote:I feel like you're saying "this is diff than his scum game" but my bigger concern is that this is really different from his towngame.- Cat Scratch Fever
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Not out of his scumrange imoIn post 1136, Kirari Momobami wrote:
What did you think of the self-vote?In post 1132, Cat Scratch Fever wrote: I'm just a little surprised the TSE wagon seems to be falling apart and we're all going off in our own directions.- Cat Scratch Fever
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Nero's 369 makes sense to me as to why scum would claim Loud BG and why you shouldn't let a Loud BG self-resolve. bruh you can't just read my ISO without reading the posts around it.In post 1576, bob3141 wrote: You have cat scratch that first seem to push against the tse wagon but then flipped onto it. At first he was pushing against the lynch when he ask nero why would he fake claim loud bodyguard as scum. So clearly he started of in his progression not thinking that a scum tse woudl make such a claim. And then with nothing he flipps to not buying his claim. No thouughts as to why. That was when teh wagon really started to grow.
I doubt that TSE didn't see the wagon on him when he claimed Loud BG at XX:00. There were multiple votes on him on page 1.In post 377, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:
I actually don't really buy this.In post 364, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:I shouldn’t keep doing this but Nero is getting on my nerves.
“I didn’t even know I was being voted I just claimed it because the role suicides itself”
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Examples?In post 1594, SausasaurusRex wrote:I just get a towny vibe from them.They make insightful reads and arguments, and they don’t appear to have done anything scummy. Whilst you can’t see it, me and Elsa Jay are in a neighbourhood together. None of us have put much in their, but Elsa asks useful questions and makes statements that may not be immediately obvious, it appears as though she’s looking for information, which is always a towny thing to do, as scum knows everyone else alignment anyway. They know who they cannot kill, whereas town is forced to search for information.- Cat Scratch Fever
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no, that was a question at davesazIn post 1710, dsjstr wrote:are you calling me dave?- Cat Scratch Fever
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Join the Titus wagon!In post 1722, Hectic wrote:
Kinda? The angles he's taken are strange this game but I'm not sure if they're scummy. His point on Misty regarding the Wake thing was good, but the vote and reasoning on Titus was bad.In post 1718, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:Are you scumreading tictac, Hectic?
I still think Titus/TrueSoulEnergy is scum for the record.
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Hey give that back!In post 1734, Hectic wrote:I've got this one, Pink Ball.
*knocks Cat Scrach Fever's squeaky toy to the ground*
Why did you still want to lynch Titus; isn't it sub-optimal?
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Elsa - 841 is a bad post. There were already discussions around Black Ranger and his contributions in his hood, yet she votes Black Ranger for lying about having a list of people in the hood? Why would scum lie about something so easily corroborated/refuted by their hoodmates and what would even be the motive for lying about something like that.In post 1827, Egix96 wrote:
I agree on NK15, but why for the first two?In post 1739, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:I would also lynch Elsa Jay, bob, or NK15 today
bob - For someone who's written a lot of text, none of the content seems to come from someone reading the game at more than a very shallow level, and I get the general vibe that he's posting for the sake of it. And then there's 397 that's basically a load of waffle and was written only after I asked him about his read on TSE twice. 2002 is like the best content he's put forth to date, but I'm confused why he's only commenting on it now.- Cat Scratch Fever
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What are you trying to say in the bolded? Who is "he"?In post 1996, bob3141 wrote:As i see it his strong scum read is just based on him pushign a belief that tse made a slip. When i have seen those sort of comments come from town before. So alone it seems quite weak. As garmr pushed it could easily come from flustered tse that sees him beign wagoned. And mistakes the fact that he knows his alignment and thus assumes only scum would push him as he knows he is town. Now this arguement also realises on atleast of the wagon at that point to be scum.But we have not see him really mention who he thinks it is.
TSE was scummy before his claim; his reaction to his wagon was bad in a vacuum and bad when you take into account TSE's own meta. I was willing to give TSE the benefit of the doubt because of his claim. I revoted because I didn't believe he claimed without seeing the votes on his wagon <--this is not the only reason I scumread TSE.
Also explain why I would even bother speaking out against the TSE wagon only to walk back my stance a couple pages later as scum.
If you want me to explain my reads, you can always just ask. I'm not going to post unprompted thought dumps in a 50-player game, especially when most of the thoughts I have on Sausa have been repeated by other players. What do you think of the other players who didn't "mention why" they voted Sausa?The only otehr player he has voted is rex. And he hasnt really mentioned why other than a few questiosn he put to fonz who is pushign that wagon. But not what he thought of the answers- Cat Scratch Fever
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Are you suggesting I... jump into a box?In post 2028, Hectic wrote:
Sounds good.In post 2025, dsjstr wrote:See I like Mr. Turkey but since baby harambe is not pocketing me I will sway over to your side, maybe a trio?
I'd throw in Pink Ball, Somni, Cat Scratch Fever, Rex, and Aaron Fucking Frost while we were at it.
Anyone you think we should quarantine?
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In post 2077, Elsa Jay wrote:The 3 votes for me so far havent had their explanations along with the vote. Everyone goes "yeah we can do Elsa" like a consolation prize.
It makes me sad. If you wanna murder me you can atleast give me your full attention and ire.In post 1023, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:
Do you still think he was lying after reading these posts? Why is your vote still on him? and lol at the unnecessary discreditIn post 1019, Elsa Jay wrote:This has also been established through my context talk with Almost.
Not reading me isn’t good evidence of the gut read of yours working right.
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No one should be deterred from joining a wagon because another scumread voted for it in a multiball gameIn post 2372, Black Ranger wrote:Reminder that NK15 started the Saus wagon and this guy never commented on their NK15 read. Elsa could be scum but lazy reads like this piss me off.
How do you figure the bolded? The Elsa thing I pointed out was by far the scummiest trajectory in his ISO. If you want an holistic case on Elsa, it's that the dude is obviously not even trying to scumhunt.In post 2372, Black Ranger wrote:
No kidding. I think more than one person called out how bizarre it would be to call me out for something that could be immediately counterclaimed by a hood member. I hate to say "it's so bad that it's good," it's more like "In post 2024, Cat Scratch Fever wrote: Elsa - 841 is a bad post. There were already discussions around Black Ranger and his contributions in his hood, yet she votes Black Ranger for lying about having a list of people in the hood? Why would scum lie about something so easily corroborated/refuted by their hoodmates and what would even be the motive for lying about something like that.
bob - For someone who's written a lot of text, none of the content seems to come from someone reading the game at more than a very shallow level, and I get the general vibe that he's posting for the sake of it. And then there's 397 that's basically a load of waffle and was written only after I asked him about his read on TSE twice. 2002 is like the best content he's put forth to date, but I'm confused why he's only commenting on it now.it's so bad that if this is the best you have it basically shows that you don't care about the read". Also, NK15 where?
And I only commented on Elsa and bob, because the Egix post I was responding to wasliterally asking for elaborations on those two, and I missed your question at me because I started massively skimming the game like 50 pages ago.
His extreme disengagement with this gameIn post 2133, Black Ranger wrote:CSF, what was your reason for suspecting NK15?- Cat Scratch Fever
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I'm asking why to see what your thought process is and to sort you
I asked why, not why me.- Cat Scratch Fever
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Why are you still voting Garmr my dude??In post 2709, bob3141 wrote:Im still not feeling what the 23 players still voting black ranger are seeing in him. Even more so with his attempt to hammer solve when he looks to have genuinely believed to have actualy been hammered. Rather than just the l-1 he looks to have been on.
It very much looks like a geuine attempt to leave us with what he thought would help us find who some of the 13 scum players arrayed against us. If he was scum i would of thought he would of kept quite as if it was an act he would have known that he actual wasnt hammered. But it doesnt look like he did know that he was only upto l-1.
It seemed like you were reconsidering your read there in 2002- Cat Scratch Fever
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A what?In post 2995, Something_Smart wrote:My meme vote has become serious. Insomnia committed a henway.- Cat Scratch Fever
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I disagree; I think he is low activity as town but capable of doing analysis.In post 3101, Hectic wrote:Rex is supreme lynchbait and the way's he's playing now doesn't really differ far from what I've seen from him as town.- Cat Scratch Fever
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