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Post Post #299 (isolation #0) » Sun Mar 08, 2020 9:22 am

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Post Post #313 (isolation #1) » Sun Mar 08, 2020 9:34 am

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In post 154, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:
In post 147, Pink Ball wrote:Wait so you DO want to be wagoned?
Not that I “Do” want to be wagoned.
I just think people should be wagoned for something they did. How they did it. Why they did it.

Not wagoned with over 7 votes without even posting.
You all should know I’m not toxic anymore.
Heck even Chemist should know that.

But I don’t blame Chemist because he votes me every chance he gets. Regardless of alignment.
7 votes is like < 1/3 of the lynch threshold. It was just an RVS wagon. If you started playing this game on pages 1-2, who do you think would've been a better wagon?
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Post Post #351 (isolation #2) » Sun Mar 08, 2020 10:23 am

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In post 322, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 320, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:
In post 318, Nero Cain wrote:fonz we are lynching TSE today, vote there
Not if I have anything to say about it.
shoulda used a better fakeclaim then.
Why would he would fakeclaim Loud Bodyguard as scum though?
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Post Post #352 (isolation #3) » Sun Mar 08, 2020 10:24 am

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In post 350, bob3141 wrote:But your saying he is town. That doesnt match up with what you say your gut reaction is.
What is the contradiction here
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Post Post #356 (isolation #4) » Sun Mar 08, 2020 10:26 am

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In post 352, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:
In post 350, bob3141 wrote:But your saying he is town. That doesnt match up with what you say your gut reaction is.
What is the contradiction here
Also what is your read on TSE?
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Post Post #360 (isolation #5) » Sun Mar 08, 2020 10:31 am

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In post 358, Nero Cain wrote:he prob DOES have a loud mod. BG is just a safe claim to make as scum. He wasn't even that close to a lynch. Why claim so early?
eh I don't disagree

I just think in a game with this much death, claiming bg and living even to day 3 is like questionable lol
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Post Post #377 (isolation #6) » Sun Mar 08, 2020 10:43 am

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In post 364, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:I shouldn’t keep doing this but Nero is getting on my nerves.
“I didn’t even know I was being voted I just claimed it because the role suicides itself”
I actually don't really buy this.

VOTE: TSE
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Post Post #382 (isolation #7) » Sun Mar 08, 2020 10:47 am

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bob do you have a read on TSE or nah
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Post Post #409 (isolation #8) » Sun Mar 08, 2020 11:41 am

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In post 393, AaronFrost wrote:bob I've already answered why I think TSE is likely town. It's not a read I'm willing to die on, but it's one of the only reads I have right now.

If you want me to comment on his actual play, there's nothing AI. The scum motivated wagon on him is what points to him being town. I'm not gonna keep repeating myself.
Do you think what TSE described in is truthful? Namely that he didn't realize there were votes on him before he claimed?

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Post Post #454 (isolation #9) » Sun Mar 08, 2020 12:47 pm

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Vote counter ate my vote :(

VOTE: TrueSoulEnergy
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Post Post #498 (isolation #10) » Sun Mar 08, 2020 1:44 pm

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If you scumread TSE, it's not too difficult to see how Kirari came up with the reads she did, and I think her read lists demonstrate that she's been sorting.

Her reads are pretty close to mine.

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I'm town on insomnia, Nero, Kirari, Pink Ball, tictac.

Aside from TSE, I'd be willing to lynch profii, Elsa, Egix, Drixx.

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Hectic can you please be townier so I can claim masons with you?

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tse is town for me
What caused you to re-evaluate TSE?
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Post Post #511 (isolation #11) » Sun Mar 08, 2020 2:02 pm

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In post 502, Drixx wrote:I'm town on insomnia, Nero, Kirari, Pink Ball, tictac.

Aside from TSE, I'd be willing to lynch profii, Elsa, Egix, Drixx.
insomnia, Nero, and Kirari all feel town based on meta. I think they've all shown genuine efforts at solving this game, Nero in particular.

Pink Ball and tictac are weaker town reads. Pink Ball feels carefree with his votes. I think I know why he scumreads TSE, and I agree with it. He would be a stronger townread if this weren't multiball. tictac is town because I think is towny for him.

I also believe all of these players except maybe Pink Ball will also be easier to read as the game goes on, because I am generally more impressed with their town games than their scumgames. I'm not too worried about them because they will become easier to read over time.

I believe TSE slipped when he said he hadn't seen the votes on him when he claimed Loud Bodyguard; he obviously had just by looking at timestamps of the posts he's responding to. Also if you look at who he scumreads on his wagon, his reads aren't consistent there. He first thinks Jackal is scum on his wagon but then later forgets to list Jackal as scum on his wagon in and then quickly covers it up later.

profii is scummy because his push on the naming of the two scum groups is kind of stupid.

Elsa is just a gut read. Egix has been diverting away from TSE scum and I've jotted down in my notes that he could be a partner with TSE.

Drixx, I think your entrance posts were kind of tonally awkward and now you're pushing Kirari because they ... don't want to explain their reads. They're clearly confident about their ability to read you, and their unwillingness to explain reads doesn't mean they don't have reasons to back them up. And having played with Kirari before (hi :3) I think her wheel of reads are town indicative for her.
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Post Post #514 (isolation #12) » Sun Mar 08, 2020 2:04 pm

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Yes he's memeing about hating Day 1.

Hectic, why are you voting for Nero?
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Post Post #521 (isolation #13) » Sun Mar 08, 2020 2:09 pm

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In post 520, kagesong wrote:
In post 508, Nero Cain wrote:Why is posting who i think is scummy LAMIST?

@ kage
This early in the game it seems unlikely to have reads that strong. I'm in the same boat with KM. It looks exactly like you're saying, I have reads, look at me, I'm so town. Both of you. But I'm not sure I see you on the same team by any means.
I didn't understand this. What is your read on Kirari?
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Post Post #983 (isolation #14) » Mon Mar 09, 2020 1:16 pm

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In post 607, Elsa Jay wrote:
In post 511, Cat Scratch Fever wrote: Elsa is just a gut read. Egix has been diverting away from TSE scum and I've jotted down in my notes that he could be a partner with TSE.
Honest question, dont gotta reveal your alt if true, but how can you gut read me if this is your first time playing with me? Or are you actually saying you don't trust me from this first impression?
It's not my first time playing with you.

Setting that aside, I don't think it's necessary to have past experience with someone to gut read someone, no?
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Post Post #986 (isolation #15) » Mon Mar 09, 2020 1:23 pm

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In post 647, The Fonz wrote:Anyway, I'm going LA now. Please give some scrutiny to Sausa when he reappears, one off entry post then vanished warrants attention. I also think CSF is probably the most likely scum of the CSF/Nero/Kirari troika.
Explain
In post 681, tictac wrote:
In post 511, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:towny for him.
ey. Do I know ya?
yeah
In post 697, kagesong wrote:I really dislike your constant insistence that you're just observing, but playing anyway.

However, I would like to note that I agree with this position. I don't see this as a slip at all. There were plenty of notices about the set up. This is either dumb, or attempting to mislead somehow I think. I'm not sure, how....
If you only had 5 partners in a 50-person game, it's pretty safe to assume there's another scum faction yeah? Hence fake townslip
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Post Post #987 (isolation #16) » Mon Mar 09, 2020 1:24 pm

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In post 984, Elsa Jay wrote:Well if someone is as easy to read as a picture book there's no problem. But I'm atleast Middle School Japanese reading comprehension levels needed to read. So you being able to read me is weird.
I have no idea how this relates to what I said tbh
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Post Post #1009 (isolation #17) » Mon Mar 09, 2020 1:50 pm

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In post 841, Elsa Jay wrote:
In post 819, Black Ranger wrote:The hood does not have a list of people with access to it. It actually says the opposite.

I can 100% say you are a liar, my friend. Or have you not checked recently?

VOTE: Black Ranger

Either a liar about being in a hood or just generally trying to hide info from town. I don't like either option.

Since we're Appearantly done with TSE this is the new one I'm okay with for now.
What is he lying about?
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Post Post #1016 (isolation #18) » Mon Mar 09, 2020 1:54 pm

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In post 854, AaronFrost wrote:
In post 666, tictac wrote:i'd unvote the energy-guy, but I don't buy the claim. at all.
pedit: lol
Why does scum claim loud bodyguard, a claim which will easily be disproven if he's still alive tomorrow and no one gets the loud message?
To buy them some time to live a few more days

Not all scum play to live until endgame
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Post Post #1017 (isolation #19) » Mon Mar 09, 2020 1:54 pm

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In post 1011, Elsa Jay wrote:About not knowing everyone in his hood. I thought that was obvious?
How would you know this unless you're also in the hood?
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Post Post #1023 (isolation #20) » Mon Mar 09, 2020 2:27 pm

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In post 1019, Elsa Jay wrote:This has also been established through my context talk with Almost.

Not reading me isn't good evidence of the gut read of yours working right.
Do you still think he was lying after reading these posts? Why is your vote still on him? and lol at the unnecessary discredit

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In post 824, davesaz wrote:
In post 819, Black Ranger wrote:The hood does not have a list of people with access to it. It actually says the opposite.
Please confirm you're saying the hood specifically says you don't know who all has access?
He may have by now, but yeah, I'm only aware of those that have posted myself.
In post 969, kagesong wrote:
In post 831, SausasaurusRex wrote:That’s interesting. I’m also in a neighbourhood, but mine lists all the people with access at the top.
That's really interesting. We don't. I'm not even sure we know how many are there.
In post 970, kagesong wrote:There... wasn't a list at least. There is now. Is my memory trapped?
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Post Post #1068 (isolation #21) » Mon Mar 09, 2020 4:16 pm

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Fonz, why do you think I'm scum?
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Post Post #1085 (isolation #22) » Mon Mar 09, 2020 4:43 pm

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In post 1074, The Fonz wrote:
In post 1068, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:Fonz, why do you think I'm scum?
I feel like you are trying to ingratiate yourself with a Nero/Kirari block, siding with them but showing much less conviction in your stances than they do, somewhat hiding behind them. Anyway as y'all know I'm LA so signing off for the rest of the day now.
What gave you this impression as opposed to me genuinely having a townread on the two of them?

pedit: kage, take a break from this game. This game will be here when you're back; there's literally 50 people here.
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Post Post #1089 (isolation #23) » Mon Mar 09, 2020 4:50 pm

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Kirari, is Drixx's real time posting slightly out of his scum range?
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Post Post #1121 (isolation #24) » Mon Mar 09, 2020 5:58 pm

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In post 1092, Kirari Momobami wrote:
In post 1089, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:Kirari, is Drixx's real time posting slightly out of his scum range?
Not really, he's definitely posting more independently than he did in AvT but I haven't seen him separate from Cerb that often. Do you think he is outside his scumrange? What games are you thinking of?
There are some old scum games of his from like 2017 that suggest his scum style is to take the time to come up with a lot of fake analysis but to not post very often. His posts in AvT seem to fall into that general profile too. I wouldn't say completely outside his scumrange, but I think he's more town than not.

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Post Post #1128 (isolation #25) » Mon Mar 09, 2020 6:07 pm

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In post 1124, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:Because I don’t necessarily disagree with the Elsa push.
They were on my starting wagon after all.
Why do you scumread Elsa though? Aside from him being on your wagon
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Post Post #1132 (isolation #26) » Mon Mar 09, 2020 6:09 pm

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Kirari, I don't think Drixx's overall post count is ever high as either alignment, but he comes into the thread and comments on things currently happening in the thread as opposed to long catchup posts. I generally think this is towny, especially if someone doesn't really do this as scum.

yeah granted I haven't liked his tone either. I don't actually dislike this push; I'm just a little surprised the TSE wagon seems to be falling apart and we're all going off in our own directions.
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Post Post #1133 (isolation #27) » Mon Mar 09, 2020 6:09 pm

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In post 1125, Kirari Momobami wrote:I feel like you're saying "this is diff than his scum game" but my bigger concern is that this is really different from his towngame.
yeah this is pretty much what's happening I think
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Post Post #1138 (isolation #28) » Mon Mar 09, 2020 6:18 pm

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In post 1136, Kirari Momobami wrote:
In post 1132, Cat Scratch Fever wrote: I'm just a little surprised the TSE wagon seems to be falling apart and we're all going off in our own directions.
What did you think of the self-vote?
Not out of his scumrange imo
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Post Post #1139 (isolation #29) » Mon Mar 09, 2020 6:19 pm

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I feel like TSE is very LAMIST-y as scum when he gets run up
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Post Post #1705 (isolation #30) » Wed Mar 11, 2020 2:06 pm

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In post 1576, bob3141 wrote: You have cat scratch that first seem to push against the tse wagon but then flipped onto it. At first he was pushing against the lynch when he ask nero why would he fake claim loud bodyguard as scum. So clearly he started of in his progression not thinking that a scum tse woudl make such a claim. And then with nothing he flipps to not buying his claim. No thouughts as to why. That was when teh wagon really started to grow.
Nero's makes sense to me as to why scum would claim Loud BG and why you shouldn't let a Loud BG self-resolve. bruh you can't just read my ISO without reading the posts around it.
In post 377, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:
In post 364, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:I shouldn’t keep doing this but Nero is getting on my nerves.
“I didn’t even know I was being voted I just claimed it because the role suicides itself”
I actually don't really buy this.

VOTE: TSE
I doubt that TSE didn't see the wagon on him when he claimed Loud BG at XX:00. There were multiple votes on him on page 1.
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Post Post #1709 (isolation #31) » Wed Mar 11, 2020 2:16 pm

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dave, why aren't you voting? do you normally have trouble finding a home for your vote?
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Post Post #1711 (isolation #32) » Wed Mar 11, 2020 2:18 pm

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In post 1594, SausasaurusRex wrote:I just get a towny vibe from them.
They make insightful reads and arguments
, and they don’t appear to have done anything scummy. Whilst you can’t see it, me and Elsa Jay are in a neighbourhood together. None of us have put much in their, but Elsa asks useful questions and makes statements that may not be immediately obvious, it appears as though she’s looking for information, which is always a towny thing to do, as scum knows everyone else alignment anyway. They know who they cannot kill, whereas town is forced to search for information.
Examples?
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Post Post #1712 (isolation #33) » Wed Mar 11, 2020 2:18 pm

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In post 1710, dsjstr wrote:are you calling me dave?
no, that was a question at davesaz
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Post Post #1714 (isolation #34) » Wed Mar 11, 2020 2:38 pm

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Chemist, penny for your thoughts?
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Post Post #1715 (isolation #35) » Wed Mar 11, 2020 2:39 pm

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tictac and Titus/TSE slot in particular
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Post Post #1718 (isolation #36) » Wed Mar 11, 2020 2:50 pm

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Are you scumreading tictac, Hectic?
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Post Post #1726 (isolation #37) » Wed Mar 11, 2020 2:58 pm

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In post 1722, Hectic wrote:
In post 1718, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:Are you scumreading tictac, Hectic?
Kinda? The angles he's taken are strange this game but I'm not sure if they're scummy. His point on Misty regarding the Wake thing was good, but the vote and reasoning on Titus was bad.

I still think Titus/TrueSoulEnergy is scum for the record.

Observation continues.
Join the Titus wagon!
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Post Post #1728 (isolation #38) » Wed Mar 11, 2020 3:00 pm

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Hectic is just joking around
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Post Post #1733 (isolation #39) » Wed Mar 11, 2020 3:06 pm

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I'm still town on tictac, so not voting there. I'm down to try this on for a size though

VOTE: SausasaurusRex
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Post Post #1737 (isolation #40) » Wed Mar 11, 2020 3:11 pm

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In post 1734, Hectic wrote:I've got this one, Pink Ball.

*knocks Cat Scrach Fever's squeaky toy to the ground*

Why did you still want to lynch Titus; isn't it sub-optimal?
Hey give that back!

Titus is still my strongest scumread.
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Post Post #1739 (isolation #41) » Wed Mar 11, 2020 3:14 pm

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I would also lynch Elsa Jay, bob, or NK15 today
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Post Post #2024 (isolation #42) » Thu Mar 12, 2020 1:27 pm

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In post 1827, Egix96 wrote:
In post 1739, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:I would also lynch Elsa Jay, bob, or NK15 today
I agree on NK15, but why for the first two?
Elsa - is a bad post. There were already discussions around Black Ranger and his contributions in his hood, yet she votes Black Ranger for lying about having a list of people in the hood? Why would scum lie about something so easily corroborated/refuted by their hoodmates and what would even be the motive for lying about something like that.

bob - For someone who's written a lot of text, none of the content seems to come from someone reading the game at more than a very shallow level, and I get the general vibe that he's posting for the sake of it. And then there's that's basically a load of waffle and was written only after I asked him about his read on TSE twice. is like the best content he's put forth to date, but I'm confused why he's only commenting on it now.
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Post Post #2030 (isolation #43) » Thu Mar 12, 2020 1:53 pm

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In post 1996, bob3141 wrote:As i see it his strong scum read is just based on him pushign a belief that tse made a slip. When i have seen those sort of comments come from town before. So alone it seems quite weak. As garmr pushed it could easily come from flustered tse that sees him beign wagoned. And mistakes the fact that he knows his alignment and thus assumes only scum would push him as he knows he is town. Now this arguement also realises on atleast of the wagon at that point to be scum.
But we have not see him really mention who he thinks it is.
What are you trying to say in the bolded? Who is "he"?

TSE was scummy before his claim; his reaction to his wagon was bad in a vacuum and bad when you take into account TSE's own meta. I was willing to give TSE the benefit of the doubt because of his claim. I revoted because I didn't believe he claimed without seeing the votes on his wagon <--
this is not the only reason I scumread TSE
.

Also explain why I would even bother speaking out against the TSE wagon only to walk back my stance a couple pages later as scum.
The only otehr player he has voted is rex. And he hasnt really mentioned why other than a few questiosn he put to fonz who is pushign that wagon. But not what he thought of the answers
If you want me to explain my reads, you can always just ask. I'm not going to post unprompted thought dumps in a 50-player game, especially when most of the thoughts I have on Sausa have been repeated by other players. What do you think of the other players who didn't "mention why" they voted Sausa?
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Post Post #2031 (isolation #44) » Thu Mar 12, 2020 2:08 pm

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In post 2028, Hectic wrote:
In post 2025, dsjstr wrote:See I like Mr. Turkey but since baby harambe is not pocketing me I will sway over to your side, maybe a trio?
Sounds good.

I'd throw in Pink Ball, Somni, Cat Scratch Fever, Rex, and Aaron Fucking Frost while we were at it.

Anyone you think we should quarantine?
Are you suggesting I... jump into a box?

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Post Post #2074 (isolation #45) » Thu Mar 12, 2020 6:56 pm

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VOTE: Elsa Jay
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Post Post #2221 (isolation #46) » Fri Mar 13, 2020 12:39 pm

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In post 2077, Elsa Jay wrote:
In post 2074, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:VOTE: Elsa Jay
The 3 votes for me so far havent had their explanations along with the vote. Everyone goes "yeah we can do Elsa" like a consolation prize.

It makes me sad. If you wanna murder me you can atleast give me your full attention and ire.
In post 1023, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:
In post 1019, Elsa Jay wrote:This has also been established through my context talk with Almost.

Not reading me isn’t good evidence of the gut read of yours working right.
Do you still think he was lying after reading these posts? Why is your vote still on him? and lol at the unnecessary discredit

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In post 824, davesaz wrote:
In post 819, Black Ranger wrote:The hood does not have a list of people with access to it. It actually says the opposite.
Please confirm you're saying the hood specifically says you don't know who all has access?
He may have by now, but yeah, I'm only aware of those that have posted myself.
In post 969, kagesong wrote:
In post 831, SausasaurusRex wrote:That’s interesting. I’m also in a neighbourhood, but mine lists all the people with access at the top.
That's really interesting. We don't. I'm not even sure we know how many are there.
In post 970, kagesong wrote:There... wasn't a list at least. There is now. Is my memory trapped?
In post 2024, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:Elsa - is a bad post. There were already discussions around Black Ranger and his contributions in his hood, yet she votes Black Ranger for lying about having a list of people in the hood? Why would scum lie about something so easily corroborated/refuted by their hoodmates and what would even be the motive for lying about something like that.
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Post Post #2299 (isolation #47) » Sat Mar 14, 2020 4:45 am

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VOTE: Black Ranger
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Post Post #3021 (isolation #48) » Tue Mar 17, 2020 5:55 am

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Busy. Will post tomorrow
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Post Post #3126 (isolation #49) » Tue Mar 17, 2020 4:51 pm

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So what's happening
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Post Post #3128 (isolation #50) » Tue Mar 17, 2020 5:14 pm

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In post 2372, Black Ranger wrote:Reminder that NK15 started the Saus wagon and this guy never commented on their NK15 read. Elsa could be scum but lazy reads like this piss me off.
No one should be deterred from joining a wagon because another scumread voted for it in a multiball game
In post 2372, Black Ranger wrote:
In post 2024, Cat Scratch Fever wrote: Elsa - is a bad post. There were already discussions around Black Ranger and his contributions in his hood, yet she votes Black Ranger for lying about having a list of people in the hood? Why would scum lie about something so easily corroborated/refuted by their hoodmates and what would even be the motive for lying about something like that.

bob - For someone who's written a lot of text, none of the content seems to come from someone reading the game at more than a very shallow level, and I get the general vibe that he's posting for the sake of it. And then there's that's basically a load of waffle and was written only after I asked him about his read on TSE twice. is like the best content he's put forth to date, but I'm confused why he's only commenting on it now.
No kidding. I think more than one person called out how bizarre it would be to call me out for something that could be immediately counterclaimed by a hood member. I hate to say "it's so bad that it's good," it's more like "
it's so bad that if this is the best you have it basically shows that you don't care about the read
". Also, NK15 where?
How do you figure the bolded? The Elsa thing I pointed out was by far the scummiest trajectory in his ISO. If you want an holistic case on Elsa, it's that the dude is obviously not even trying to scumhunt.

And I only commented on Elsa and bob, because the Egix post I was responding to was
literally asking for elaborations on those two
, and I missed your question at me because I started massively skimming the game like 50 pages ago.
In post 2133, Black Ranger wrote:CSF, what was your reason for suspecting NK15?
:?:
His extreme disengagement with this game
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Post Post #3129 (isolation #51) » Tue Mar 17, 2020 5:16 pm

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Not impressed with BR's other posts on pg. 95 either
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Post Post #3131 (isolation #52) » Tue Mar 17, 2020 5:28 pm

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Why?
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Post Post #3135 (isolation #53) » Tue Mar 17, 2020 5:34 pm

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In post 3132, BBmolla wrote:
Why me = Fry me

scum
I'm asking why to see what your thought process is and to sort you

I asked why, not why me.
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Post Post #3140 (isolation #54) » Tue Mar 17, 2020 6:28 pm

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In post 2709, bob3141 wrote:Im still not feeling what the 23 players still voting black ranger are seeing in him. Even more so with his attempt to hammer solve when he looks to have genuinely believed to have actualy been hammered. Rather than just the l-1 he looks to have been on.

It very much looks like a geuine attempt to leave us with what he thought would help us find who some of the 13 scum players arrayed against us. If he was scum i would of thought he would of kept quite as if it was an act he would have known that he actual wasnt hammered. But it doesnt look like he did know that he was only upto l-1.
Why are you still voting Garmr my dude??

It seemed like you were reconsidering your read there in
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Post Post #3141 (isolation #55) » Tue Mar 17, 2020 6:29 pm

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^ bob's vote on Garmr was from RVS lol
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Post Post #3142 (isolation #56) » Tue Mar 17, 2020 6:53 pm

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I wish I was in a hood
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Post Post #3147 (isolation #57) » Tue Mar 17, 2020 7:34 pm

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In post 2995, Something_Smart wrote:My meme vote has become serious. Insomnia committed a henway.
A what?
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Post Post #3148 (isolation #58) » Tue Mar 17, 2020 7:53 pm

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In post 3101, Hectic wrote:Rex is supreme lynchbait and the way's he's playing now doesn't really differ far from what I've seen from him as town.
I disagree; I think he is low activity as town but capable of doing analysis.
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Post Post #3150 (isolation #59) » Tue Mar 17, 2020 7:57 pm

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SausasaurusRex has a few completed games on site, both town and scum

but if you don't want to go metadiving people in a 50-player game, I won't hold it against you lol
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Post Post #3151 (isolation #60) » Tue Mar 17, 2020 8:01 pm

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VOTE: SausasaurusRex
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Post Post #3287 (isolation #61) » Wed Mar 18, 2020 7:42 pm

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In post 3165, Rhinox wrote:
In post 3147, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:
In post 2995, Something_Smart wrote:My meme vote has become serious. Insomnia committed a henway.
A what?
Please please please phrase your question as "what's a henway?"
What's a henway?
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Post Post #3289 (isolation #62) » Wed Mar 18, 2020 7:57 pm

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In post 3184, Black Ranger wrote:which ones do you have problems with
Your Garmr case was ok in the sense that I didn't see anything wrong with it but the arguments didn't sway me either
In post 2364, Black Ranger wrote:A50 at this point was a bad choice and really only makes sense if you push him... Which he didn't do. I explained my reason for why the A50 read was bad in the hood: A50 literally runs off a scoring sheet to find scum. If you squint at A50's posts now, you'll see it doesn't look like he's doing anything like his usual townplay. So, this read would be a good one if he actually pushed it, but he didn't, and would actually be justified in suspecting him right now.
tictac wasn't scumreading A50; tictac had A50 in his lynchpool because he doesn't like A50. I vaguely recall tictac even elaborating on this in a later post.
In post 2364, Black Ranger wrote:I called this chemist read an asspull in the hood. I'm just going to recycle the reasoning because it was pretty poetic n shit. He basically accused chemist of snorting boogers in his sleep and voted him for being a booger eater. Not once did he really point out something scummy here. It's just an excuse to justify a read that was an obvious shit meme read that was challenged twice over (once by Pink Ball and twice over from myself). Yes I'm suggesting he took a read that wasn't real and tried to make it into a real read. It's just pure shitplay.
His reading for scumreading Chemist was that Chemist gets paralyzed when he has to play scum, and his play looks paralyzed here. I think that's fine reasoning for voting someone. I'm not exactly sure why you think his reads are memes; you're possibly conflating a lot of that with playstyle.

I'm kind of amazed by how you think tictac is scum because his reads suck, but you have repeatedly said that you don't have high confidence in your own reads. From where do you get the confidence to say that tictac's reads suck...?

Your read on sauce was fine, and I broadly agree with it.
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Post Post #3290 (isolation #63) » Wed Mar 18, 2020 8:01 pm

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In post 3185, Black Ranger wrote:
In post 3128, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:How do you figure the bolded? The Elsa thing I pointed out was by far the scummiest trajectory in his ISO. If you want an holistic case on Elsa, it's that the dude is obviously not even trying to scumhunt.
If that's the scummiest post in Elsa's iso you should consider them clueless town

Elsa's scumminess is just from making dumb posts see this vote, pl so our investigatives don't get shot, masonry, etc. I called them scumsiding because it's off the wall content that doesn't stick and I'm sure they don't really care either. I'm not convinced they're scumhunting either but I don't think that's much of a problem.
In post 1495, Elsa Jay wrote:That was frankly a semi meme vote to show my exasperation of knowing this game will get tedious later. I'm still trying to get an imformative lynch, believe it or not.
They're just trying to get people to play the game and not trying to look good while doing it. Back the fuck off.
Elsa isn't clueless. I think we should just leave it at that because I doubt we're going to convince each other. and it's a tangential conversation when Elsa isn't even a lynch candidate today.
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Post Post #3291 (isolation #64) » Wed Mar 18, 2020 8:04 pm

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In post 3199, bob3141 wrote:Never stopped scum reading them. My intial vote on him was rvs being of the variety gamblers fallacy. But since then my vote on garmr has become a proper vote. At times he looks more like his town game but at others nothing like it. There is just soemthing about his push on br that inst right. All 2002 did was make me think the odds were not as strongly aligned with garmr being scum but still more likely scum than town.

His later posts just looked like how he pushs against those pushing him when he is scum. As scum his pushs are more focused on discrediting than actualy trying to solve that player. Even when he is tunnelign a player as town there is always an element of solving even during confirmation bias. How he is pushing br just looks like shade.

Although i do beleive that garmr does think br is scum. Just that he is scum himself. You can see it in his wording of his push on br being scum huntign scum. As it at times appears worded as althogh its from his pov. Just like how in prior game a player i was pushing used a her own reasoning as if it was her targets reasoning. And it showed that it was her thought process projected onto teh player rather than her view of that players thought process
Ok

why are you still voting for Garmr? That wagon hasn't taken off and multiple people are ready for the day to end, and it looks like you're just parking there
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Post Post #3292 (isolation #65) » Wed Mar 18, 2020 8:05 pm

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In post 3202, Titus wrote:
In post 3195, Black Ranger wrote:Scum Titus may not lurk but she does coast
Not sure who you are but that's fairer. I sometimes coast if I don't have an ability to hunt.

That would be incorrect in this setup because I would hypothetically be able to hunt other scum.

I'm not coasting here. I just don't have the ability to pin a lot of people yet. I am pretty sure you, nero, and tictac are scum.

Drixx and insomnia are probably town.

KM needs flips.
This is still scum lol
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Post Post #3294 (isolation #66) » Wed Mar 18, 2020 8:12 pm

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In post 3261, Kirari Momobami wrote:VOTE: Black Ranger

#Wagons
I don't think he's a good lynch because of the vig claim, and there are too many inactive slots that need culling
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Post Post #3295 (isolation #67) » Wed Mar 18, 2020 8:13 pm

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In post 3264, Not Known 15 wrote:
In post 3261, Kirari Momobami wrote:VOTE: Black Ranger

#Wagons
Vote tictac instead. Opportunistic wagon-hopping plus scummy posts.
How are you differentiating between opportunistic wagon hopping and people who are voting the top wagon for the sake of getting a lynch through?
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Post Post #3405 (isolation #68) » Thu Mar 19, 2020 12:54 pm

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Did someone say hammer? I thought this day would never end

VOTE: tictac
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Post Post #3409 (isolation #69) » Thu Mar 19, 2020 12:59 pm

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Wait why can’t I answer?
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Post Post #3414 (isolation #70) » Thu Mar 19, 2020 1:02 pm

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Spoiler:
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Post Post #3419 (isolation #71) » Thu Mar 19, 2020 1:05 pm

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Aw I'm kind of disappointed that I was wrong about tictac now.
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Post Post #3652 (isolation #72) » Thu Mar 26, 2020 5:48 am

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VOTE: Black Ranger

Also hi bob, I see you’ve paid me a visit last night
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Post Post #3653 (isolation #73) » Thu Mar 26, 2020 5:48 am

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What else would you like to do today, Elsa?
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Post Post #3755 (isolation #74) » Thu Mar 26, 2020 7:33 am

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In post 3746, gobbledygook wrote:Just the person I wanted.
Hectic, what do you think of pisskop’s claim now that it is revealed he is a neighbor miller fruit vendor?
Where did he claim fruit vendor?
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Post Post #3757 (isolation #75) » Thu Mar 26, 2020 7:35 am

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In post 3724, Egix96 wrote:
In post 3652, Cat Scratch Fever wrote: Also hi bob, I see you’ve paid me a visit last night
:wink: :wink:
oh get your head out of the gutter
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Post Post #3761 (isolation #76) » Thu Mar 26, 2020 7:38 am

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Elsa are you going to explain why you demanded protection or nah
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Post Post #4562 (isolation #77) » Tue Mar 31, 2020 3:30 pm

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I don't have time to read this game right now, but I feel ok sheeping Nero.

VOTE: Titus
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Post Post #4568 (isolation #78) » Tue Mar 31, 2020 3:34 pm

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In post 4566, Elsa Jay wrote:If anyone cares to know, Rex claims to have tracked me last night. So use that however you will.
Did he say why he picked you to track????
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Post Post #4569 (isolation #79) » Tue Mar 31, 2020 3:35 pm

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In post 4565, AaronFrost wrote:
In post 4337, insomnia wrote:actually fuck it AF is probscum this game

he's been scum in every single game of mine, therefore he's scum in this one

VOTE: AaronFrost
Oh hey here comes insomnia's inevitable tunnel on me. Knew something was missing from this game.
Does he tend to tunnel you when you're town?
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Post Post #4573 (isolation #80) » Tue Mar 31, 2020 3:46 pm

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In post 4571, Elsa Jay wrote:
In post 4568, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:
In post 4566, Elsa Jay wrote:If anyone cares to know, Rex claims to have tracked me last night. So use that however you will.
Did he say why he picked you to track????
Wanted to know why my role was important enough to want to be protected, appearantly. Basically Almost and Bob said it best. Digging for info on me.
I just skimmed bob and A50's ISO, I don't see anything related to Sauce.

But that's pretty scummy. Weren't you his top townread on day 1?
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Post Post #4577 (isolation #81) » Tue Mar 31, 2020 3:51 pm

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Which lynch is bad? Titus?
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Post Post #4579 (isolation #82) » Tue Mar 31, 2020 3:53 pm

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In post 4575, pisskop wrote:This lynch is bad, and I think its the blind sheepers who are bad. Even if titus flips red/pink/blue, we still have half the scum in the game voting it.
If this is talking about Titus, I remember thinking the Titus/TSE wagon disbanded pretty quickly with the Loud BG claim, so scum jumping on that early doesn't make her town.
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Post Post #4585 (isolation #83) » Tue Mar 31, 2020 3:59 pm

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Where would you prefer to go, pk?
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Post Post #4626 (isolation #84) » Tue Mar 31, 2020 8:50 pm

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What? Where did you hear that I was an NSG alt?
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Post Post #4627 (isolation #85) » Tue Mar 31, 2020 8:50 pm

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Also do you and Aaron have any games together where you’re both town?
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Post Post #4631 (isolation #86) » Tue Mar 31, 2020 9:08 pm

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In post 4565, AaronFrost wrote:
In post 4337, insomnia wrote:actually fuck it AF is probscum this game

he's been scum in every single game of mine, therefore he's scum in this one

VOTE: AaronFrost
Oh hey here comes insomnia's inevitable tunnel on me. Knew something was missing from this game.
This is a weird thing to say if Aaron and insomnia have never been Town together
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Post Post #4632 (isolation #87) » Tue Mar 31, 2020 9:11 pm

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Aaron, sauce, Titus are all good lynches
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Post Post #4638 (isolation #88) » Tue Mar 31, 2020 9:20 pm

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In post 4635, insomnia wrote:Why would it? In my first game I lynched him day one after tunneling him, on my second game I replaced in and nailed his scum team and pushed him for most of Day 2.

Doesn't seem that out of place. Although I can see it being used to maybe redirect me onto someone else.
But wasn’t he scum in those games?

It doesn’t make sense for town!Aaron to complain about you tunneling him in the past if you correctly tunneled him. If anything, wouldn’t he expect you to be able to read him?
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Post Post #4639 (isolation #89) » Tue Mar 31, 2020 9:21 pm

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VOTE: SausasaurusRex

I can get down with this
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Post Post #4642 (isolation #90) » Tue Mar 31, 2020 9:23 pm

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In post 4625, insomnia wrote:VOTE: Cat Scratch Fever

I retained that someone thought this was an nsg alt (probably because of their sick town game)

Fuck is it at tho
In post 4626, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:What? Where did you hear that I was an NSG alt?
In post 4629, insomnia wrote:some game idk i forgot cuz i didn't pay attention
A lot of people in Pollock’s Flag speculated I was an NSG alt, so if insomnia is scum, he’s probably scum with one of them

Though it wouldn’t narrow it down by much; a lot of people in that game are here now that I look at the player lists lol
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Post Post #4646 (isolation #91) » Tue Mar 31, 2020 9:29 pm

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I only have like two completed games on this account
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Post Post #4651 (isolation #92) » Tue Mar 31, 2020 9:34 pm

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In post 4648, insomnia wrote:I think it was actually nsg herself that brought you up somewhere and denied that CSF was actually nsg ; in response to the people bringing this up in that game or whatever, and she said that you were a good town player herself.

I'm still trying to make sense of that thought process tho

First of all, I didn't say you were nsg, I said people tying you up to her raised some level of expectation to me that I am not witnessing right now, and that's why the vote is where it is.
I misread your post. I thought you thought I was NSG
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Post Post #4654 (isolation #93) » Tue Mar 31, 2020 9:37 pm

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In post 4653, insomnia wrote:Even if that were the case, how does me speculating about your identity make me scum?
It doesn’t. I said if you were to ever flip scum, I thought there was a possible association
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Post Post #4656 (isolation #94) » Tue Mar 31, 2020 9:46 pm

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Town to scum

Chk, Nero, Hectic, bob, fonz, Alyssa, Pink Ball, gobble
A50, Amrun, egix, clidd, drixx, dave, insomnia
Null
RCEnigma, pk, nk15, Quantum
Sauce, AF, Titus

I completely forgot Rce was even in this game so he’s probably scum

Everyone else null
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Post Post #4657 (isolation #95) » Tue Mar 31, 2020 9:48 pm

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I still haven’t read large swaths of this game but that’s probably a good jumping ground

Why AF over Sauce?
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Post Post #4658 (isolation #96) » Tue Mar 31, 2020 9:50 pm

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Jumping ground? Jumping point
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Post Post #4662 (isolation #97) » Tue Mar 31, 2020 9:55 pm

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Clidd has a bad habit of flaking out of scum games last time I meta’d him, and he’s still here

Egix I think he made a good post about nk15 ages ago and also because I liked his vote just now lol
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Post Post #4664 (isolation #98) » Tue Mar 31, 2020 10:11 pm

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In post 497, The Fonz wrote:
In post 494, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 492, The Fonz wrote:VOTE: Black Ranger
if you scum read kirari why not join Drixx there?
Did you read the post above? I scum read Black Ranger much harder than Kirari, where the case is basically links to you and some stuff that's just weird. Kirari is the kind of "Basically slightly better than random lynch I might go for at deadline." I think BR is scum. Why the hell would anyone vote the former over the latter?
This? I can kinda see what you’re getting at. Kirari never really went hard on fonz either now that I’m rereading her ISO and actually comes around to a tr on him.
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Post Post #4667 (isolation #99) » Tue Mar 31, 2020 10:42 pm

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In post 4665, The Fonz wrote:Off to work. Briefly, a plea.

I get it's unsatisfying to lynch an inactive. I get that you get more info off lynching a scummy active. Sausa is SCREAMING scum to me. But unless you wish to gamble the game on no scum inactives, you have to lynch them sometime. And the delta between how informative the lurker lynch is and the active lynch is will only grow. We can examine interactions with the lurkers to increase our odds. Worse, inactive town PR can't act, but scum can usually submit for buddies in PTs. We need to hunker down and lynch only inactives and mech guilties for a few days until the game is more manageable.
There were two lurker kills last night. Assuming Garmr shot one of them, there's still another person out there making lurker shots, so I'm not understanding the urgency to lynch all lurkers. Am I missing something really obvious...?

And Jesus the site's taking forever to load
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Post Post #4757 (isolation #100) » Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:49 am

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In post 4699, Gamma Emerald wrote:Please call SausausaurusRex Rex instead of Sauce, there’s another account out the called sauce and this confused me
Welcome back Gamma :D
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Post Post #4765 (isolation #101) » Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:57 am

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bob you're in Rex's hood right? can you corroborate what Elsa said about Rex's action last night?
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Post Post #4767 (isolation #102) » Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:59 am

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In post 4753, Pink Ball wrote:
In post 4751, Pink Ball wrote:
In post 4750, Titus wrote: Do you think AF fits this category?
Yes. Let me do a quick check and I'll give you names
BBmolla
profii
RCEnigma
Creature
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Almost50
AaronFrost
Something Smart
Chemist
Egix96

If I wanted to shoot random, like some people are proposing to do with lurkers, I'd rather shoot at this list.

And actually, funny enough, Creature????? Why are we not lynching Creature??
I somehow forgot Creature was in the game too

He can also go
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Post Post #5070 (isolation #103) » Sat Apr 11, 2020 12:22 pm

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oh hey, I saved Nero N1 :)
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