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What if my plan was for you to have that plan?
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What do you think is town indicative out of FB?In post 69, Alchemist21 wrote:
I've played with you enough times to think you're Town here. I'll also be heartbroken if you're scum and we can't get our old trend of being the same alignment back again.In post 65, Firebringer wrote:
Hmmhmmm feels strange to townread me this early. Kind of suspicious if u ask meIn post 60, Alchemist21 wrote:
Town with you.In post 58, Firebringer wrote:Alchemist I think ur rushing into this game a bit fast for u
What up?
R u gonna be town with me or town against me?!?!
Krazy's game that just ended showed what happens when Town stays quiet and scum controls everything and since I'm usually one of the quiet ones I need to step up more.- RCEnigma
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Not ironically, to see who unvotes first. I think it's interesting that you're both the first unvote and subsequently pushing me for my vote.In post 114, Dannflor wrote:clidd is actually town
RCE, why did you choose to vote clidd when you did?
VOTE: RCE
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FB is always something I can fall back to and supplement a read with meta and I've never played with Clidd. The opportunity for reaction testing presented itself and I took it based on the wagon and not necessarily Clidd themselves.
I didn't mind his reaction to my vote but it's nai.
I think Clidd probably is town, and scum is more likely to be spooked off a town wagon than town would.- RCEnigma
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Don't take that literal. I just have more experience over no experience with Clidd lol.In post 134, OkaPoka wrote:YOU CAN META FIREBRINGER? TEACH ME YOUR WAYS- RCEnigma
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I don't have a partner read lol I just think you were the scum spooked off the wagon and voting me was to get ahead of that.In post 151, Dannflor wrote:
I sort of agree with thisIn post 132, RCEnigma wrote:I think Clidd probably is town, and scum is more likely to be spooked off a town wagon than town would.
but I'm curious why you find me *attacking* the votes on the wagon scum indicative, or interesting, as you put it
because that would indicate to me that you have a partner read
I'll say you weren't the slot I was expecting to jump.- RCEnigma
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Relatable.In post 182, Auro wrote:All my reads are bad reads since I suck at mafia- RCEnigma
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In post 273, PenguinPower wrote:I miss Vedith...- RCEnigma
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I read distinction as distraction and feel like that would have been a truer statement.
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That's comedyIn post 307, Comical wrote:For Vedith...
*Proceeds to chug entire glass of overpoured alcohol in a cocktail*- RCEnigma
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Dannflor's vote jump at wagon peak.In post 319, Comical wrote:In post 318, Comical wrote:Alright, let’s do something. I feel scum aren’t in a hurry to get this game going at all.
@RCEnigma - What’s stood out to you the most?
You’re allowed to say “When Comical questioned RCEnigma about what’s stood out the most.”
Or nobody questioning that Fire is open scumming, intentional or otherwise.- RCEnigma
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I don't think the Clidd vs comical stuff is all that interesting and Clidd is in this weird space where I'm reading the reactions around his wagon and not him per say.
Pine being caught up between the two is... Ok. He could be scum but he has precedent for town lurking that makes it unlikely he's today's lynch.- RCEnigma
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Dann being spooked is like my biggest reason for Clidd being town. Clidd being as abrasive as he was early makes an easy wagon to jump onto but it's low value to stick to as it's not a priority nk, cuts later mislynch opportunities, and yes scum can get a mislynch there but then they're stuck on a wagon that didn't have much going for it in terms of motive or motivation and nothing to show for it but some wagon Poe.
I expected scum to get out of Dodge when I threw my vote down and Dann did the dash.
Fire is just like tonal meta and I'm comparing him to jazz mafia. I usually scumread his early game though and I'm not confident I can articulate why he's scum here so I'm not pushing it aorn.- RCEnigma
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Too many slots ahead of them in post count.In post 341, Firebringer wrote:I wonder if comical is Nancy drew- RCEnigma
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Go through FB's iso
Specifically the early game which is content less from a gameplay standpoint. But he was partners with Krazy here and the early interactions remind a lot of his interactions here.
If I were making a direct 1 to 1 comparison Auro would be the scum theatre partner here.
I bought into the carelessness and general disregard for how he's read as pretty townie and wouldn't have switched that read if he hadn't repped out. Probably.- RCEnigma
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Done and done.In post 703, Pine wrote:
Nah.In post 695, Dannflor wrote:Pine, quick, what was the most important thing you gleaned from the last 20 pages
You lynch me in absentia, you don't get to beg me to read 20 pages of trash that culminate in a lolmislynch.
Bandit bro! Do me a favor, and eviscerate this wagon. Traditional positions on the wagon are probably predatory. Comical and Auro look the most suspicious, but don't give Dann the benefit of the doubt.In post 698, PenguinPower wrote:In post 693, Pine wrote:This is *exactly* what is driving people away from Mafia games.
A pox on both your houses. I hope you're happy.
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Mathematically there is scum on the wagon. Outside of that I can't make assumptions. Could be two, could be three. Who knows.In post 769, Auro wrote:You're really going to go for "this is a scum-driven wagon" etc logic for the Pine wagon?- RCEnigma
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I still don't have Eddie cane related opinions. Someone else will have to figure it out.
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Can corroborate I've read this article.In post 792, Alchemist21 wrote:
I don't know how exactly he figures out who's scum, but once he has a suspect he says so and then aggressively pursues that lynch. Nobody can really steer him away from the wagon which cuts out the chance for scum interference.In post 789, Auro wrote:Specifically what?
There's an old article on the wiki by Albert B. Rampage discussing a similar thing, about focusing on scum and getting them lynched.- RCEnigma
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Same boat. Stay safe out there.In post 779, PenguinPower wrote:
I'm considered "essential" so I'm still at work...cut me some slack.In post 777, Alchemist21 wrote:Penguin that's another pagetop. Quit slacking.- RCEnigma
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Can't be. Also, I don't care about your 1v1. You can continue it by all means but it doesn't matter to me either way.In post 787, Auro wrote:
Even if so, trying to dismantle my 1v1 with Alch implies he's likely partners with him.In post 786, Comical wrote:RCE is likely scum.- RCEnigma
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It was a shit flash wagon. I'm not going to hold Eddie more accountable than the sheep.In post 801, OkaPoka wrote:
I mean then it sounds like Pine wagon isn't really the deciding factor of why you picked your pool, your just using it as a vehicle to push your pool? whats the real reason hereIn post 795, RCEnigma wrote:I still don't have Eddie cane related opinions. Someone else will have to figure it out.
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In post 575, schadd_ wrote:errantparabola is the only person able to kill. she has not yet done so
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vote count 1.3
Dannflor (5):RCEnigma, Auro, Firebringer, Eddie Cane, Luna Fox
Comical (2):clidd, Dannflor
Pine (1):Alchemist21
clidd (1):Pine
not voting (4):OkaPoka, Zulfy, PenguinPower, Comical
with 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. day 1ends march 31st at 12:50 central US time; in (expired on 2020-03-31 11:50:00)
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For the whole pine wagon to be town. Fmpov. There would be 3 scum in PP, Luna, Zulfy, Clidd.In post 708, schadd_ wrote:errantparabola has three parents
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Pine (7):Alchemist21, Firebringer, OkaPoka, Dannflor, Auro, Comical, Eddie Cane
clidd (2):Pine, PenguinPower
Dannflor (1):RCEnigma
PenguinPower (1):Luna Fox
not voting (2):Zulfy, clidd
with 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.
That would also mean scum had 0 presence on the Dann wagon and prioritized pine over a Dann lynch.
Well why prioritize a lurker lynch? Possible late game accuracy sure. But .ore likely to pocket someone advocating the wagon. I'd say FB or someone but FB died- RCEnigma
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It was mostly how vocal comical was about pine being scum and specifically with Clidd but not taking action until the flash wagon.In post 806, Alchemist21 wrote:
Do you hold Comical more accountable for it? Or is there another reason you have Comical in your pool?In post 804, RCEnigma wrote:
It was a shit flash wagon. I'm not going to hold Eddie more accountable than the sheep.In post 801, OkaPoka wrote:
I mean then it sounds like Pine wagon isn't really the deciding factor of why you picked your pool, your just using it as a vehicle to push your pool? whats the real reason hereIn post 795, RCEnigma wrote:I still don't have Eddie cane related opinions. Someone else will have to figure it out.
Could be town excited their scumread is getting pressure but I can also see scum motivation there as opposed to off wagon hunting slots with no take on pine one way or the other.- RCEnigma
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Well, he's lynched.In post 808, OkaPoka wrote:stop implying that the people who voted pine had the intent to lynch pine
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Poor analogy, you aren't helping yourself.In post 815, OkaPoka wrote:I intended to threaten to lynch him, but loading a gun doesn't mean I want to fire it like I really really doubt you don't understand the concept of pressure wagons and pressure votes- RCEnigma
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Your pinning everything on the hammer and nothing on the people that made the hammer possibly cause "oops" we didn't mean to kill him, it just happened on its own.In post 828, OkaPoka wrote:
RCengimas argument is that the pine voters simply just wanted pine dead before he got to play therefore scum has to be on the wagonIn post 824, Alchemist21 wrote:
...In post 822, OkaPoka wrote:When did I argue scum is or is not on the wagon. lol wtf
Then why are you taking so much issue with RCE's line of logic?
except it was a lolhammer by Eddie and RCEngima decides that the blame for the pine flashwagon can be equally dispersed when it obviously can't be, it was a lolhammer so there wasn't even time for the wagoners to react by unvoting- RCEnigma
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He's right so Lynch him. LolIn post 835, Comical wrote:The way he’s focusing on what “should have scum” is evident of knowing where scum actually is, and using it as a solid push for scum to make to get a mislynch on top of not seeming incorrect still.- RCEnigma
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This. I literally just don't care.In post 845, Alchemist21 wrote:
I've been thinking this too but idk what purpose that would really serve. It could just be genuine laziness.In post 841, Comical wrote:RCE is faking not knowing- RCEnigma
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Probably next in line after Dann/comical/autoIn post 847, OkaPoka wrote:Rce where is eddie in ur pool
He's null plus a lol hammer, I just have tangible/weak/stronger reasons to scumread the other 3.- RCEnigma
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Err it could be Fogport FL but that's still a weird stance to take because I haven't been angling to set up a role here.In post 848, RCEnigma wrote:Is it FL? If it is, that's scum.- RCEnigma
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Pls confirm before I make an ass of myself.In post 850, Alchemist21 wrote:
Spicy take. Can you elaborate?In post 848, RCEnigma wrote:Is it FL? If it is, that's scum.- RCEnigma
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I haven't said it was scum driven. I said there was scum on the wagon. Purely by the numbers. I fully believe the wagon was scum advantaged not scum driven. I give the cr sit to FB for starting the wagon up and he's the first nk so.In post 852, Dannflor wrote:I’d prefer some individual scum reads than sweeping statements about the D1 wagon.
RCE, your analysis thus far has come entirely with wagon analysis being your crutch. Which is like, fine if you’re using that to form reads, but I want more. And it’s hard for me to take it as too damning when I know I’m town and I don’t generally think a wagon on lurking town is more likely to be scum motivated than not. In fact, you made this same point with clidd earlier in the game, where you said scum would be more averse to easy mislynches. Yet, now, with the easiest mislynch in the world, it’s supposed to be a scum *driven* wagon?
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You trying to absolve yourself of any blame doesn't make me scumread Eddie any more. I recognize he lol hammered and outside of that I don't lean either way. He lurked and he hammered pine that's it.In post 855, OkaPoka wrote:The issue with rce is that his wagon analysis most clearly should lead to eddie but he isnt going that route which makes me feel like he has other reasons to have his pool be his pool that isnt 'they voted pine'
You haven't t even given an argument as to why he would do that as scum.- RCEnigma
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I'm an even night role.In post 869, Comical wrote:
Claim.In post 865, RCEnigma wrote:He's gambiting or scumclaiming. I went nowhere last night. - RCEnigma
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