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winning will make me feel betterIn post 12, PenguinPower wrote:
Dancing will make you feel better.In post 11, clidd wrote:sucks, low money, shit job
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your posts are outside of what i see from scum!penguim there
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i don't like this guy, seems a robot on his reactionsIn post 30, Alchemist21 wrote:If you ain't first you're last.- clidd
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yes, and your posts don't have an expressive reaction tooIn post 42, Alchemist21 wrote:
Is it because I already called you scum on Page 1?In post 37, clidd wrote:
i don't like this guy, seems a robot on his reactionsIn post 30, Alchemist21 wrote:If you ain't first you're last.- clidd
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maybe alchemist is bad town, but the way these votes happened suggests two scum votingIn post 59, OkaPoka wrote:
at least two of alchemist, pine, dann, and penguin are scum?In post 56, clidd wrote:at least two voting me are scum
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comical second scum, any normal town wouldn't change his vote on me
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why would you vote pine ?In post 92, Comical wrote:Foolish of you to assume that I am what they call a normal town.
I also didn't vote you in the first place, so what do you mean by change their vote?
1. you are trying to gain towncred because you know i will flip town
2. you didn't explain why are you sheeping me
3. if we change to Pine, and he's your partner, it would be a hard buss to gain towncred by doing it
4. im a easy misslynch later, which is also a reason why you are trying to keep me alive- clidd
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and these reasonsIn post 98, clidd wrote:
why would you vote pine ?In post 92, Comical wrote:Foolish of you to assume that I am what they call a normal town.
I also didn't vote you in the first place, so what do you mean by change their vote?
1. you are trying to gain towncred because you know i will flip town
2. you didn't explain why are you sheeping me
3. if we change to Pine, and he's your partner, it would be a hard buss to gain towncred by doing it
4. im a easy misslynch later, which is also a reason why you are trying to keep me alive- clidd
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your entire post screams LIARIn post 122, Comical wrote:
Darling, it's not a dodge at all. I'm just town, and you're flailing.In post 102, clidd wrote:nice dodge
if you were truly town, you wouldn't have voted for pine with me almost getting lynched just to get towncred once I died
you could also have tried to argue why i was town in your pov, but you didn't. you didn't care if i was going to get lynched or not
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dann TL, sincerityIn post 154, Dannflor wrote:
I think frustration manifests differently in scum and townIn post 152, OkaPoka wrote:let me just tell you that its a very frustrating thing to feel
can u sympathize with that
it can manifest in very much the same way so like this isn't a damning tell or whatever
but town frustration is almost always gonna be outwardly emotional and inconsistent
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ok, explain whyIn post 168, Dannflor wrote:
clidd what does it tell you that no one else really seems to be seeing what you're seeingIn post 164, clidd wrote:i insist we lynch comical
it was very explicit what she tried to do there
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he showed sincerity on his process, doesn't matter if i agree or notIn post 179, OkaPoka wrote:
do u agree with this?In post 170, clidd wrote:
dann TL, sincerityIn post 154, Dannflor wrote:
I think frustration manifests differently in scum and townIn post 152, OkaPoka wrote:let me just tell you that its a very frustrating thing to feel
can u sympathize with that
it can manifest in very much the same way so like this isn't a damning tell or whatever
but town frustration is almost always gonna be outwardly emotional and inconsistent
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why are you voting auro ?
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In post 191, Dannflor wrote:
no whatIn post 175, clidd wrote:
ok, explain whyIn post 168, Dannflor wrote:
clidd what does it tell you that no one else really seems to be seeing what you're seeingIn post 164, clidd wrote:i insist we lynch comical
it was very explicit what she tried to do there
she flips scum=Pine scum
I'm asking you what nobody else listening to you here means for your reads
does that make you more/less confident?
but i still right in my reasons, she acted very scummy there
if no one hears me, i'll be struggling here with a wasted vote
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??In post 205, Auro wrote:I assumed Clidd was a Newbie (somehow gut inferred off his play)
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my biggest problem with her is this answerIn post 100, Comical wrote:In post 98, clidd wrote:
why would you vote pine ?In post 92, Comical wrote:Foolish of you to assume that I am what they call a normal town.
I also didn't vote you in the first place, so what do you mean by change their vote?
1. you are trying to gain towncred because you know i will flip town
2. you didn't explain why are you sheeping me
3. if we change to Pine, and he's your partner, it would be a hard buss to gain towncred by doing it
4. im a easy misslynch later, which is also a reason why you are trying to keep me alive
I think you need to be a little less worried about why I'm voting Pine, and a little more worriedwhy you aren't voting Pinewhile saying he's hard scum.
her reaction wasn't genuine, but deflective. she didn't try to refute anything but to lower my moral credibility by mentioning about my vote, which at the time I had forgotten
attacking an element indifferent to what was being argued, to take attention away from my questions and avoid having to answer them, while drawing attention to me
not to mention this biased theory, where she tried to explain why I had directed the vote at her, instead of PineIn post 101, Comical wrote:At the present, I think it's incredibly likely that you are actuallybussing Pinehere
the obvious conclusion was that she was a much stronger SR to me than Pine, but she was unable to reason it out, because she preferred the most convenient explanation
it is not because I am going to be lynched that I will want to board any available wagon to save myself
here she tries to convey a future sensation, as if I will survive the game for a long time. it looks like a preparation for a lynch on me later on.In post 138, Comical wrote:Wow, interesting. Everyone is starting to town read Clidd from that scenario.
Let that be rememberedright now. I'm not saying I'm fully correct by any means, it's page 6, but that is something to be noted.
again, she attacks the act rather than arguing the reasons why it occurred. so far she hasn't answered the questions I asked back there.In post 174, Comical wrote:
I’m pretty sure I just had their number andIn post 168, Dannflor wrote:
clidd what does it tell you that no one else really seems to be seeing what you're seeingIn post 164, clidd wrote:i insist we lynch comical
it was very explicit what she tried to do there
she flips scum=Pine scumClidd is playing up what’s getting them townread.
this comes from a totally deflective mentality, which emphasizes the problem rather than the solution.
anyways, i won't be insisting on this lynch anymore, but I want everyone to be aware of these points- clidd
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comical i read your post 376 and i am in doubt about your motivation to vote Pine so fast at the time i mentioned it. afterwards you fixed in your head that the fact that I voted for you evidenced a possible partnership between me and Pine, although I thought you were much more scummy than him.
i want you to briefly explain why you decided to try a counterwagon when I was almost lynched, and what did you see in me to justify that- clidd
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???In post 466, Luna Fox wrote:
VOTE: DannflorIn post 465, clidd wrote:dann and chemist are my strongest townreads at the moment- clidd
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do you think scum can type this ?In post 154, Dannflor wrote:
I think frustration manifests differently in scum and townIn post 152, OkaPoka wrote:let me just tell you that its a very frustrating thing to feel
can u sympathize with that
it can manifest in very much the same way so like this isn't a damning tell or whatever
but town frustration is almost always gonna be outwardly emotional and inconsistent
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and thisIn post 131, Dannflor wrote:like idk
I'd like to think scum normally goes back to actually check who was voting them
while town can very easily get flustered/indignant and think the whole world is out to get them when pressured early for seemingly no reason
It's not outside of any scum meta and I don't have experience with clidd, but it just strikes me as a lot less careful than scum under pressure should be prone to be- clidd
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this is a stupid wagon, his analyzes are transparentIn post 469, Luna Fox wrote:There's a wagon building up on dann and all you come here is say that he's one of your strongest townreads.- clidd
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this is a stupid wagon, his analyzes are transparentIn post 469, Luna Fox wrote:There's a wagon building up on dann and all you come here is say that he's one of your strongest townreads.- clidd
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absolutely not at that level of empathyIn post 475, Auro wrote:
Scum Dannfloor definitely canIn post 471, clidd wrote:do you think scum can type this ?- clidd
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the question would be the opposite: WHY are you scumreading him ?In post 477, Luna Fox wrote:More importantly, what makes you think scum CAN'T make those posts?
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This is an escape from my question.In post 482, Luna Fox wrote:
Because you randomly pop in to mention a townread on a person getting wagoned and didnt bother to mention why at the time.In post 480, clidd wrote:
the question would be the opposite: WHY are you scumreading him ?In post 477, Luna Fox wrote:More importantly, what makes you think scum CAN'T make those posts?
it seems you are just following blindly the wagon
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I don't see scum easily emulating this process, especially because there are more advantageous instances, like not trying to imagine more than one scenario in his contextIn post 481, Auro wrote:
why is it hard to empathize with someone you know is town?In post 479, clidd wrote:absolutely not at that level of empathy
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your "methods" are pure trash, honestlyIn post 488, Luna Fox wrote:Regardless of what you think of my methods.
They were pretty effective in getting you to out your reasons for townreading dann.
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1 he's my strongest TRIn post 499, OkaPoka wrote:clidd why are you spending time on protecting dann over killing comical
2 everyone is ignoring my reads and impressions
3 it is difficult to lynch her (which to me is potentially scum indicative)- clidd
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as long as you're lynched tomorrow, I have no problem with thatIn post 508, Comical wrote:He’s still pushing me as being scum with Pine, but I haven’t even unvoted Pine.
If that’s the case, call my bluff and kill him then.
To be fair, I don’t think I actually think Pine-Clidd is the team, and I am more leaning towards Clidd being scum because he’s derp tunneling, and not in a townie way.
I gave you the opportunity to talk to me, but your arrogant and cynical tone irritates me
i don't care what you think is towny or not, scum has no right to have an opinion- clidd
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i like how 90% of the players didn't pay attention to my postsIn post 465, clidd wrote:dann and chemist are my strongest townreads at the moment
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I'm not even close to being angry
anger is what I went through in that game. I was forced to be replaced because the players didn't like me- clidd
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his analyzes seemed to me genuineIn post 518, Dannflor wrote:Why do you town read him?
I'm unclear how you went from "robot" to "bad town" to second strongest town read
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Look thisIn post 262, Alchemist21 wrote:Here's where I'm at with you two:
The way Clidd went from calling for Pine's lynch to voting you for voting Pine does look like it was premeditated, and trying to accuse a Town player of being scum who's going for Towncred is a move I've personally tried to do as scum before, but if he thinks scum would want to side with a mislynch for Towncred it does make sense that he would try to bait scum into doing it. On the other side, it did look odd when Clidd called for Pine's lynch and didn't vote him and it was a good callout from Comical, especially if you think it's scum distancing from a partner but afraid of an actual backlash wagon on their partner. Comic's vote on Pine came off as a "put your money where your mouth is" move to me to see if Clidd would actually vote Pine and instead got Clidd voting them instead.
I've toyed with the different combinations of alignments for you in my head and the scenario that makes the most sense to me is that they're both Town who tried to trap scum and now think each other is caught scum while both are forgetting about Pine, which I do think is a slot that needs more attention.- clidd
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and thisIn post 351, Alchemist21 wrote:
I think Clidd was kinda right that Pine's vote on him was weak, and Pine's overall entrance was weak. Additionally, if I drew 3 names from the 12 of you the odds that at least one of the names were scum is ~60%, and I know 3 slots interacting isn't exactly random but I think it's still a good way to look at it and I'm thinking both Clidd and Comical are Town. It's not like I'm 100% sure on Pine being scum but I think it's a good vote.In post 328, OkaPoka wrote:lol but also on the flip we have alchemist who says hes the real scum of comical v clidd but the dude has three posts that arent walls or anyhting crazy like that
his read on comical is wrong, but the process he used to imagine so many scenarios seemed like an effort to try to solve the game and also genuine- clidd
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i'm looking to improve, but my difficulty in this game was the fact that i am being actively ignored by most playersIn post 525, Comical wrote:Yes, but Clidd, assuming you’re correct based on a page 6 read is insanely ignorant, and post game, if you are town, you should really take consideration in seeing the weaknesses in your play, in addition to learning how even if you think someone is scum, you still need to be able to work with said player in the case you are wrong, which you are here.
i would understand better if someone talked to me and explained why my logical sequence about you being scum is incorrect, so that we can arrive at a better conclusion
but what i saw was "you're wrong and you're scummy" without an argumentative context for me to try to understand
i am not ignorant to the point of considering myself the owner of reason, but i believe that my opinions should be discussed with more seriousness and not with ignorance. part of the reason why I was forcibly replaced from my past game (which I was also town), was precisely because of the same process of neglect with my opinions. ok, i was toxic there, I was wrong, but basically nobody proposed to talk to me about it in that match, and i would behave better if i were at least considered to be a player of significant importance in the game.Copyright © MafiaScum. All rights reserved.
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