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Post Post #7 (isolation #0) » Mon Mar 23, 2020 4:51 am

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yay! \(ᗒᗨᗕ)/
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Post Post #14 (isolation #1) » Mon Mar 23, 2020 6:17 am

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mavsfan41 wrote:Hi Everybody!

I know just a few of you guys. The rest I don’t.
To people I know: Hey, how’s it going!
To people I haven’t played with before: Hey, how’s it going!
it's goin alright, thanks!

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Post Post #15 (isolation #2) » Mon Mar 23, 2020 6:19 am

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very assertive, paragon, but perhaps it's a bit too early to start distancing on mavs' very first post?
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Post Post #21 (isolation #3) » Mon Mar 23, 2020 6:40 am

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mavsfan41 wrote:I don’t like all the lurkers in this game. Not a scum read per se, but I want more out of them.
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that's good because you'd be scumreading 70% of the game, if they could be considered lurkers for not joining rvs yet
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Post Post #33 (isolation #4) » Mon Mar 23, 2020 7:55 am

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grain... bread... crumb?!?

this got 4-D chess-like really fast and i dont like it
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Post Post #34 (isolation #5) » Mon Mar 23, 2020 7:56 am

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In post 31, Paragon wrote:Hmm, is that a crumb, Allomancer? Wouldn't it be more sensible to claim that outright?

VOTE: Allomancer
what town-motivation could there possibly be behind pointing out a potential crumb??? smells fishy to me, paragon
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Post Post #53 (isolation #6) » Mon Mar 23, 2020 9:55 am

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In post 44, iDanyboy wrote:
In post 34, Morning Tweet wrote:
In post 31, Paragon wrote:Hmm, is that a crumb, Allomancer? Wouldn't it be more sensible to claim that outright?

VOTE: Allomancer
what town-motivation could there possibly be behind pointing out a potential crumb??? smells fishy to me, paragon
Why note vote then. VOTE: Morning Tweet

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so im too scared to vote my partner on the 2nd page, but not scared to say something about him is fishy?

surely pointing out a potentially scummy action is more of a commitment
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Post Post #55 (isolation #7) » Mon Mar 23, 2020 10:09 am

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Paragon, Allomancer - lean town
CatScratch, mav - undecided
iDany, bob - lean scum

paragon felt like a town reaction to me + i like the way the miller crumb interaction played out

dany is forcing voting me a lil, i dont buy his reasoningggg but it could be town struggling to find something to say
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Post Post #60 (isolation #8) » Mon Mar 23, 2020 10:33 am

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In post 58, BBmolla wrote:Paragon has Xalxes avatar

Miss the old guard :(((
he modded my first newbie game :c
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In post 55, Morning Tweet wrote:Paragon, Allomancer - lean town
CatScratch, mav - undecided
iDany, bob - lean scum

paragon felt like a town reaction to me + i like the way the miller crumb interaction played out

dany is forcing voting me a lil, i dont buy his reasoningggg but it could be town struggling to find something to say
I'm not forcing anything. You said you found someone scummy with out a vote, then said your comment is stronger than a vote, but now you town read him for the same interaction which you called fishy.
once i realized what he meant by what he said (that he was referring to a miller crumb), i don't find anything fishy about it now. i considered the possibility he made that explanation up, but im positive that's what he meant the whole way thru

if i were scum with para, why bother to make the comment if i dont even have the resolve to vote him?
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Post Post #69 (isolation #9) » Mon Mar 23, 2020 11:45 am

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Are you baiting me into scumslipping something like "I'm scum, just not with Para"?

pedit: I KNEW IT
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Post Post #70 (isolation #10) » Mon Mar 23, 2020 11:47 am

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I said "If I were scum with Para" because I was being accused of bussing. It doesn't really imply that I'm putting emphasis on the *with Para* part
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Post Post #72 (isolation #11) » Mon Mar 23, 2020 11:50 am

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<insert me banging face into table>

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Post Post #73 (isolation #12) » Mon Mar 23, 2020 11:53 am

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In post 66, bob3141 wrote:So your saying your not scum with para?
this is a loaded question that incriminates me for answering it and it feels like you're trying to make me "scumslip", which i neglected to put in quotes in my last message cause i'm a peabrain
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Post Post #76 (isolation #13) » Mon Mar 23, 2020 11:56 am

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In post 44, iDanyboy wrote:
In post 34, Morning Tweet wrote:
In post 31, Paragon wrote:Hmm, is that a crumb, Allomancer? Wouldn't it be more sensible to claim that outright?

VOTE: Allomancer
what town-motivation could there possibly be behind pointing out a potential crumb??? smells fishy to me, paragon
Why note vote then. VOTE: Morning Tweet

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no no he definitely did make a case for us being together
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Post Post #80 (isolation #14) » Mon Mar 23, 2020 11:59 am

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In post 75, bob3141 wrote:
In post 73, Morning Tweet wrote:
In post 66, bob3141 wrote:So your saying your not scum with para?
this is a loaded question that incriminates me for answering it and it feels like you're trying to make me "scumslip", which i neglected to put in quotes in my last message cause i'm a peabrain

So you saying you cant answer the question.

When its easy to answer for any town. Correct answer is "i am town and thus cant be partnered with anyone"

So it is certainly answerable. But instead your trying to make reachy case out of it
"i am town and thus cant be partnered with anyone" is a carefully crafted answer, and thinking very carefully about how my posts come off is not something I'm proficient at
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Post Post #82 (isolation #15) » Mon Mar 23, 2020 12:01 pm

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Morning Tweet wrote:Are you baiting me into scumslipping something like "I'm scum, just not with Para"?
Allomancer wrote:I think bob has a point here
if it helps i actually did physically bang my head after sending that
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Post Post #83 (isolation #16) » Mon Mar 23, 2020 12:06 pm

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In post 81, bob3141 wrote:
In post 76, Morning Tweet wrote:
In post 44, iDanyboy wrote:
Why note vote then. VOTE: Morning Tweet

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no no he definitely did make a case for us being together

So you saying you think his reason for thinking your scum is wrong.


See here he says you might both be scum but he never says your trying to buss para. Its you that said that. Thus this game you feel accurately aware of bussing. Thus for you i feel its actualy a possibility. Most cases that wouldnt cross a townies mind. They would push back as to why they were not scum not why there not scum with another player
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In post 45, Paragon wrote:VOTE: iDanyboy

Why move your vote off me? Trying to establish two early town wagons?
To put some pressure on MT, I don't like that his not willing to vote you.
iDany pushed me because he thinks I'm scum not willing to commit to vote Paragon, my partner supposedly. i responded by saying that if Paragon were my partner, why would I be too scared to vote him when I'm willing to make negative comments. what else should I be defending myself against exactly?
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Post Post #84 (isolation #17) » Mon Mar 23, 2020 12:12 pm

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In post 66, bob3141 wrote:So your saying your not scum with para?
What was your intent behind asking this question, if I may ask. the wording I was looking for is that it's a "loaded" question
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Post Post #105 (isolation #18) » Mon Mar 23, 2020 3:34 pm

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mmmmmm

VOTE: Bob
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Post Post #110 (isolation #19) » Mon Mar 23, 2020 7:21 pm

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stupid gut reasoning at work i guess. i recall liking this one reaction he had against allo voting him.

as we're progressing past that i like the scum pool he's set up but im a little biased because 2/3 of them ive voted too. still kinda on the town leaning side on allo though

why do you like dany?
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Post Post #134 (isolation #20) » Tue Mar 24, 2020 5:13 am

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In post 106, TheTrollie wrote:I don't love Para's vote hopping at all. But it feels like hyper/neurotic town more than scum maybe?
I kinda love it, there's nothing reasonably solid enough to go off of that warrants keeping a vote stuck on one person.
In post 111, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:I liked his push on you and I agreed with it at the time. He found something interesting to pursue and went with it.

I think you’re more townie than not from your reactions, but I disagree with the townread on Paragon. I’m not really seeing the towny response in
I like that you mentioned you agreed with it at the time, makes me inclined to feel like you have a coherent town thought process which is a little tricky to do as scum. Also townreading me is the easiest way to my heart damnit
In post 120, Skellen wrote:bob vs MT is so... bob.

I think I understand the reasoning behind the wagon, I am just not sure I feel it. Him nitpicking on a certain detail in an awkward manner is nothing out of the ordinary for him. So are you guys assuming bob is scum struggling to get into this game with his push on MT? Why does he go this route?

Also @MT:
Why the hesitation to vote bob and only then when the wagon gains movement initiated by others?
I'm not familiar with bob's play, but I don't quite like it much. So from what I'm told, he's capable of these kinds of pushes as town, but even if so, there's certainly nothing townie I've found about him yet. I also think his entrance posts in , , and were kinda awkward, hence why I scum leaned him in .

I waited because I still wanted to vote Dany at the time, but my read on Dany is kind of waning.
In post 114, iDanyboy wrote:Don't like gerain's entrance, Cat is good, don't like the Bob wagon.
I agree with the first two takes, altho the first is just a little nitpick
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Post Post #140 (isolation #21) » Tue Mar 24, 2020 6:20 am

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I think we invented the term "miller slip" just in this game.

Basically what you need to know about Para is that he's probably town, I think. I find myself liking his votes and reads at least.
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Post Post #143 (isolation #22) » Tue Mar 24, 2020 6:39 am

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How is carefully answering "I cannot be partnered with anyone because I am not scum" more townie than pointing out that's it's a very loaded question???
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Post Post #144 (isolation #23) » Tue Mar 24, 2020 6:42 am

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In post 142, bob3141 wrote:Town look at push as it just being wrong.

But scum tend to look at push not in perspective that the player is wrong but that they dont have good enough reason to actual suspect them.
I don't even know how to interpret this, like, what's the difference? You're saying that scum subconsciously dismantles arguments by thinking "Ha, yes I'm scum but that isn't why I'm scum"? And I'm exhibiting that thought process, I guess?
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Post Post #146 (isolation #24) » Tue Mar 24, 2020 7:47 am

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from town impressions to not town impressions

Paragon, CatScratch, Allomancer - lean town
iDany - ungngngng
BBmolla, Trollie - undecided
Skellen - lesser iffy
gerain, bob - more iffy

If i’m calling my shots right, the two lurkers (Expresso + Vig) are going to end up being both town. Just a theory of mine tho and obviously will be overrided once they actually start posting
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Post Post #147 (isolation #25) » Tue Mar 24, 2020 8:26 am

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In post 77, Allomancer wrote:I think bob has a point here
In post 127, Allomancer wrote:And I can see bob as being logical while not quite agreeing that it's a big deal.
I kind of thought this was weird justification, like "Has a point here" doesn't really come off as "I see that you're logical but I disagree that's its a big deal". I feel like this seemingly inconsistent thought process might be the reasoning behind Allo's wagon, so let me address what I think about it..
In post 129, Allomancer wrote: might help you understand my read on bob vs MT more
In post 79, Allomancer wrote:
In post 78, bob3141 wrote:Now a townie would be more focused on othar things than being worried about makign teh slightest incorrect scum slip
That's not necessarily true, I'm always paranoid no matter what
As soon as bob voted me, Allo made it clear in the very next post that they weren't really on board with bob's thinking all along. This brought Allo back on the town side in my mind, it seems to me like there was a consistency after all.
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Post Post #150 (isolation #26) » Tue Mar 24, 2020 9:01 am

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I think you're experiencing confirmation bias from this technique accidentally working in other games, bob
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Post Post #151 (isolation #27) » Tue Mar 24, 2020 9:12 am

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In post 149, bob3141 wrote:And it in you never even deny being partnered with para. All you say is why would i comment on x if i wasnt going to vote for him. And that answers nothing.
As it easy for scum to say they would do the opposite

Where it should be clear im asking, ok so you say you wouldnt be partnered with para if you were scum but that doesnt realy answer anyones suspicions that your scum. And is rather scummy avoidance of that very issue.
I asked Dany about how pointing something suspicious about someone without voting them is indicative that we're partners. My line of reasoning was that calling attention to something is stronger than voting. I don't really know what you mean by the bolded phrase

From what I'm gathering, you're saying that town!tweet wouldn't say that she's not partnered with Paragon, she would instead say "I'm not partnered with anyone, I'm not scum." Why would I be unwilling to say the phrase "I am not scum" as scum???

I see where you're coming from I THINK. Like, I subconsciously say "I'm not with Paragon" instead of "I'm not scum" to technically say the truth. I don't think looking for ways that someone subconsciously words things is a good tell, and it's certainly not working here.
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Post Post #160 (isolation #28) » Tue Mar 24, 2020 12:59 pm

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im sorrryyyyyyy but that's d1 i guess

Dany has a tendency to post somewhat infrequently as both alignments I've noticed from other games
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Post Post #164 (isolation #29) » Tue Mar 24, 2020 1:29 pm

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i love kitties
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Post Post #192 (isolation #30) » Wed Mar 25, 2020 10:08 am

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I think bob believes in the method's he's saying yes, but I don't know whether that makes him town. He's a puzzler. I do like the wagon though I think it's town driven
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Post Post #208 (isolation #31) » Wed Mar 25, 2020 10:56 am

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In post 205, BBmolla wrote:no past knowledge of Dannyboy they just seem to be the low hanging fruit scum

I always like to try to start there
Read some of Dany's games. He always posts infrequently and looks like low-hanging fruit scum, you're exactly correct there so take it as u will
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Post Post #229 (isolation #32) » Wed Mar 25, 2020 2:00 pm

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Aren't millers not even allowed in normal??
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Post Post #232 (isolation #33) » Wed Mar 25, 2020 2:10 pm

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In post 223, Skellen wrote:Regarding bob I can understand what Cat pointed out, but my problem is that I don't really see the scum motivation in the execution of his "tunnel" on MT. It's admittedly mostly subjective bias, because his 1v1s are frustrating to read, but he is smart and pretty self-aware and I would assume he would know as scum when to back off as it became clear that no one really digs his suspicion on MT. It only pushed him into the center of attraction and going by the early game state there wasn't even a need to do that, because there was already Dany/MT going on. Waiting for his input outside of his 1v1 though for a firmer read as I think he is easier to read when he is not involved in one of those.
Bob doesn't strike me as someone who is bothered by causing lots of attention to himself on either alignment

Pedit: For some reason I was under the impression that results that lie to cops (guilty on a non-guilty) wasn't normal. that clears that up
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Post Post #237 (isolation #34) » Thu Mar 26, 2020 4:29 am

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In post 235, geraintm wrote:So...daughter is currently in an ambulance so might not get that promised increase in activity today. Sorry
take your time!
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Post Post #241 (isolation #35) » Thu Mar 26, 2020 3:08 pm

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probably. I think it's an interesting point to bring up that bob chose me rather than Dany, but I'm gonna say it's just because he wanted to use his patented "Ask a loaded question" technique. Mav reads into it very closely, and I think that looks good on him

I'm still voting bob because I can totally see scum bob doing this; it's totally within town bob's realm too but I haven't seen anything from bob that I like yet. Not that I'm sure what that would be
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Post Post #257 (isolation #36) » Fri Mar 27, 2020 5:01 am

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In post 248, geraintm wrote:
In post 146, Morning Tweet wrote:from town impressions to not town impressions

Paragon, CatScratch, Allomancer - lean town
iDany - ungngngng
BBmolla, Trollie - undecided
Skellen - lesser iffy
gerain, bob - more iffy

If i’m calling my shots right, the two lurkers (Expresso + Vig) are going to end up being both town. Just a theory of mine tho and obviously will be overrided once they actually start posting
your town list seems correlated with the number of posts. paragon is 2nd after you, allomancer is 3rd. im low as I haven't been posting, and kinda shocked you didn't call me a lurker.
the correlation means I am not trusting of your reads too much at this tsage of the game
well I can't very well townread someone who hasn't posted any material! i like catscratch and allo for having consistent thought processes (i also dont think scum!allo posts )

i forget what it was about paragon; i also liked Dany's takes in + lurking is typical Dany behaviour
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Post Post #262 (isolation #37) » Fri Mar 27, 2020 8:55 am

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In post 261, bob3141 wrote:Tweet though serously why do you think scum me would actual push you like that.
I have no idea how you play as scum but I can only imagine that pushes such as those arent exclusive to town bob
bob3141 wrote:
In post 242, Paragon wrote:: I don't like this Bob-post, I don't think Morning Tweet has said anything new here that she didn't already say before. This whole read/tunnel into reconsideration feels completely fabricated from Bob. The only reason I see scum!Bob doing it though is if he believes it'll look towny, I don't think scum!him actually thinks he can get Morning Tweet mislynched with that.
Bob
, why did this post change your mind while previous ones didn't?
Different attitude. Scum are far more likely to make posts like the one you have made than tweets.

Scum wants a mislynch to go through so thay dont even slightly undercut there own push. Its not even something scum can fake as it work against their win con. Now that doesnt prevent them making posts that a town player would but there are attitudes that are largley exclusive to town.

In you see that tweet isnt talking to me as though he thinks im scum nor that he even thinks im town. That level of compilation is hard for scum as they tend to end up either side but not the middle.
What is it about Paragon's posting attitude you don't like as compared to mine? this comes off as "Tweet is towny because she seems uncertain, whereas Para is scummy because he's more sure." is this what you mean?

i'm not sure i agree that scum as a whole would be opposed to being uncertain and wishy washy about their reads/votes/pushes. if their mislynch goes through, they can point to not really having been sure about it. it also means they would have a wider range of people they can reasonably vote for. there are too many variables for blanket statement strategies like "Scum are more likely to have assertive posts and to stick with one push and go with it" to work reliably
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Post Post #267 (isolation #38) » Fri Mar 27, 2020 9:27 am

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basically read trollie's iso or just
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Post Post #268 (isolation #39) » Fri Mar 27, 2020 9:29 am

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bob3141 wrote:Tweet all i will say is you need to got back an reread my post. as you clearly wouldnt think i was calling para scummy if you had. In fact i made no judgement on him in that posts.
"Scum are more likely to make posts like the one you (Para) have made than tweets."

i've read n reread it enough i was only asking for clarification
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Post Post #274 (isolation #40) » Sat Mar 28, 2020 8:52 am

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i kinda go back and forth on skellen a bit, but i think overall i have a slight lean town
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In post 77, Allomancer wrote:I think bob has a point here
In post 122, Skellen wrote:I think I like Allo the least so far. He comes a bit off to me, like he is walking a thin line between everything. He hasn't really tried to sort Para since he voted him and I feel he takes stances just to dismiss them quickly like change from mavs to Para or reading Dany/MT as TvT just to agree with bob's suspicion against MT (at least that's how it came across to me) like as if he doesn't really believe in them.

VOTE: Allomancer
In post 129, Allomancer wrote: might help you understand my read on bob vs MT more
In post 223, Skellen wrote:Caught up. I am now leaning more town on Allo. I still feel iffy about his beginning behaviour but going by his explanations about his stance on bob/MT as his treatment of his developing read on bob I feel I can get a grasp on his personality, which adds up with what he was trying to explain to me and how he ultimately acted so far imo. It also feels like an honest attempt to figure bob out. UNVOTE: Allomancer
i can say i like her allomancer read progression, it's similar to what was going thru my head at the time. 77 seemed out of place, but 79 showed it wasn't really hopping on w/ bob's logic and it was just a bit of a misunderstood post
TheTrollie wrote:That all said - I'm down to vote elsewhere today. Just not on Bob.

Or morning tweet or mavsfan.
i agree about mav-- i still wanna vote bob :(
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Post Post #288 (isolation #41) » Sat Mar 28, 2020 7:22 pm

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In post 284, BBmolla wrote:
bob3141
- lyncher
i laughed
BBmolla wrote:Can we figure out this bob wagon
its town driven
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Post Post #289 (isolation #42) » Sat Mar 28, 2020 7:28 pm

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In post 284, BBmolla wrote:
geraintm
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Bambi Jay
Vigneshwar
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im curious abt how you developed a read on this pair

all i know about gerain is that he doesn't enjoy RVS and other day one antics ;(

and idk bambi is mostly just vibing aside from inquiring about trollie's case on skelly
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Post Post #291 (isolation #43) » Sat Mar 28, 2020 8:57 pm

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ah carry on then good sir
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Post Post #298 (isolation #44) » Sun Mar 29, 2020 5:17 am

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In post 295, Paragon wrote:I tried looking for cute cat and bat gifs but they all involved the cats eating the bats :/
this is terrible noooo!!!
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Post Post #299 (isolation #45) » Sun Mar 29, 2020 5:21 am

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who would you like to lynch instead bob
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Post Post #301 (isolation #46) » Sun Mar 29, 2020 5:30 am

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fuzzy boyy!!

i hope ur feeling better paragonn
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Post Post #304 (isolation #47) » Sun Mar 29, 2020 6:02 am

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In post 303, geraintm wrote:
In post 289, Morning Tweet wrote:
In post 284, BBmolla wrote:
geraintm
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Bambi Jay
Vigneshwar
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im curious abt how you developed a read on this pair

all i know about gerain is that he doesn't enjoy RVS and other day one antics ;(
This is true. Sorry. I wish I could post more but I have no idea what to talk about.
The people I played with in a recent game are all posting similar, no one being weird. And everytime I jump in the thread and read what is happening, disagreements just wash over me....
i can definitely relate with not being sure what I'm supposed to find scummy over d1. so far i usually just try to get a few ppl in the town basket
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Post Post #311 (isolation #48) » Sun Mar 29, 2020 6:14 am

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In post 308, Espressojet wrote:
In post 220, Allomancer wrote:How do you claim traitor and not get lynched?
It's still bothering me, actually

I see ZERO town motivation in making this post

Is Allo known to troll, or just say random things sometimes?

Did I miss the post that prompted this?


i appreciate the bob meta, although i figured itd be like that ;_;
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Post Post #314 (isolation #49) » Sun Mar 29, 2020 6:18 am

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it is a fair assessment that if we lynch bob and he flips town, it'd be a bit hard to learn from it.

i am inclined to believe the wagon as it is right now is town, meaning that either bob is scum and scum isnt bussing quite yet, or bob is town and scum doesnt want to finish him off for fear of looking bad. which is more likely?

what a botherr
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Post Post #315 (isolation #50) » Sun Mar 29, 2020 6:19 am

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In post 267, Morning Tweet wrote:basically read trollie's iso or just
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Post Post #316 (isolation #51) » Sun Mar 29, 2020 6:20 am

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that's for the skelly info ^
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Post Post #318 (isolation #52) » Sun Mar 29, 2020 6:40 am

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In post 317, Espressojet wrote:What makes you believe the Bob wagon is Town?

I feel like this is some juicy early mislynch bait if Bob is Town himself

Unless we have a really smart Scumteam on our hands, I can't see a reason why one of them wouldn't help push a wagon
i hav independent townreads on allo and cat, strongest being allo.

you're right but i havent been able to get behind the skelly case, and just going by how bobs wagon is formed it makes me feel like i may be on the right path

that being said im not vote locked on bob, i wanna bump this so he sees it
Morning Tweet wrote:who would you like to lynch instead, bob?
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Post Post #327 (isolation #53) » Sun Mar 29, 2020 7:25 am

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In post 319, Espressojet wrote:
Morning Tweet wrote:who would you like to lynch instead, bob?
I don't know. I don't have an answer for you :/
no i mean im asking bob what he thinks the lynch should be
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Post Post #331 (isolation #54) » Sun Mar 29, 2020 7:44 am

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why vote the only person whose alignment you know is good? unless--
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Post Post #337 (isolation #55) » Sun Mar 29, 2020 11:56 am

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VOTE: iDanyBoy
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Post Post #347 (isolation #56) » Mon Mar 30, 2020 5:18 am

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In post 345, Allomancer wrote:
In post 337, Morning Tweet wrote:VOTE: iDanyBoy
What's the reasoning behind this vote?
bob's odds of scum are going down a bit imo, plus many ppl have voiced theyre against the wagon. im willing to let it go in favour of a new discussion: what shall we do with resident lynchbait

im def gonna read game 2121 later today
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Post Post #351 (isolation #57) » Mon Mar 30, 2020 9:05 am

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Why's BB and Paragon scummy?
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Post Post #361 (isolation #58) » Mon Mar 30, 2020 11:45 am

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town - mavs, allomancer
lean town - cat, paragon

i vote outside o here

that claim came quick. what do you hope to gain from it?
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Post Post #366 (isolation #59) » Mon Mar 30, 2020 12:50 pm

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I can't help but feel effortposting is town indicative of iDany

i like that he gave reads and went into detail with em, but I don't find myself in agreement with all of em
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Post Post #371 (isolation #60) » Mon Mar 30, 2020 4:52 pm

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In post 370, Espressojet wrote:I would agree

I think his whole read list is just pieced together from popular and easy opinions
i agree that I don't like his reads, like I find the reasons listed for the scum slots actually townie or null at best

although I think there's a chance this is town dany regardless
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Post Post #395 (isolation #61) » Tue Mar 31, 2020 8:46 am

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In post 388, Allomancer wrote:I think geraint has a good case on Trollie. Went through his ISO myself and I find myself agreeing.

@Morning Tweet: what do you think of geraint and Trollie?
geraint is pretty null for me until and on
In post 382, geraintm wrote:ok, gone through The Trollie posts.
there is a lot of flipping around, a lot of posts saying they would be happy to move their vote, some gentle encouragement for others to join their vote. all without huge amounts of evidence

this is the person I am finding the mos suspicious. so guess i'll VOTE: trollies
Gerain is either scum hoping to grab town points by being the first to start our new discussion, or town feeling obligated to progress the day. I lean towards the latter, as I think there is a fair chance scum!gerain would opt to not do this

-

I flip flop in Trollie's ISO a bit. I like the Skelly push and like the take on mav in this post
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In post 272, TheTrollie wrote:That all said - I'm down to vote elsewhere today. Just not on Bob.

Or morning tweet or
mavsfan
.

But I have disagreements with him sometimes too, such as not viewing the bob wagon favourably and his agreement with iDany's readslist
Spoiler:
In post 190, TheTrollie wrote:I feel strongly that bob is town - he's incredibly tunnel-visioned but town.

I don't like that wagon.
In post 356, TheTrollie wrote:I like iD's reads actually.

I think it's highly likely that there is at least one scum in {allo, skellen, BB}.

I find myself considering voting Trollie for having a lynchpool so off-key with mine. However, I think that the case that Trollie is "too open" or "free" with his votes isn't that strong. He's only shown scum reads on the three listed above.
In post 385, TheTrollie wrote:with BB out of the hot seat (for now), I'm still mostly feeling allo or madoka

Maybe Bambi or Espressojet too? idk.
He does mention some of the mysterious, less active players here too but I don't think that's pushing the boundaries of what I'm willing to vote either + that's consistent with his agreement with iDany's reads

I think overall I net a townlean on gerain and still undecided on Trollie
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Post Post #396 (isolation #62) » Tue Mar 31, 2020 8:47 am

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I want to pose a couple questions
geraintm wrote:gone through selectively and tried to pick out the whole series of posts that just give me the impression they are happy to move votes around. Feels flippy to me, more so than anyone else I've gone through and looked at.

a vote on your feels much better than where I had it, still as my random vote. I didn't pluck my vote from nowhere.....
Was this directed at Trollie's ?

also

@Trollie
is it pronounced "Trolley" or "Trohlie" ?
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Post Post #401 (isolation #63) » Tue Mar 31, 2020 10:09 am

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i knew I was pronouncing it right!

VOTE: Madoka
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Post Post #430 (isolation #64) » Wed Apr 01, 2020 4:24 am

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Why do you not buy BB's claim @mav
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Post Post #432 (isolation #65) » Wed Apr 01, 2020 4:44 am

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He did not claim Miller, he claimed Mason. Mason is a townie that shares a PT with another Mason, and it's confirmed to each other that they're both town. I could see BB doing this as lazy scum and lazy town, but I don't think he'd claim Mason as scum. He would have to set one of his scum partners as the other Mason, which could backfire hard
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Post Post #434 (isolation #66) » Wed Apr 01, 2020 4:50 am

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In post 433, mavsfan41 wrote:
In post 432, Morning Tweet wrote:He did not claim Miller, he claimed Mason. Mason is a townie that shares a PT with another Mason, and it's confirmed to each other that they're both town. I could see BB doing this as lazy scum and lazy town, but I don't think he'd claim Mason as scum. He would have to set one of his scum partners as the other Mason, which could backfire hard
If they’re known, why did he claim so early (after only two votes).
lazy

the other mason is not outted and it'd be optimal not to discuss that individual
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Post Post #451 (isolation #67) » Wed Apr 01, 2020 10:46 am

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In post 440, bob3141 wrote:I dont think scum actualy push a mason claim. Thst something ive realy only seen town do.
now I don't usually agree with bob, but he's right here; mavs is town
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Post Post #457 (isolation #68) » Wed Apr 01, 2020 1:52 pm

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In post 452, Titus wrote:VOTE: iDanyboy

Wagonomics guess.
been a while titus!!
In post 350, iDanyboy wrote:Any big disagreement with my list or something anyone want to discuss
Espressojet wrote:It
(above)
reads very over-eager to me

I don't see iDanyBoy being read anywhere near neutral this game

Anyone who reads otherwise, I'd be wary of
I think, given how people have been scumreading iDany for lurking tendencies, this is his way of saying "I was open to having a discussion" at that point in time. NAI in my opinion
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Post Post #461 (isolation #69) » Wed Apr 01, 2020 3:47 pm

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In post 458, Espressojet wrote:People are scumreading Dany for lurking tendencies?
Espressojet wrote:That doesn't sound like a strong day 1 lynch priority
maybe not exactly scumreading but I can recall it being mentioned a lot. I don't really disagree w/ u on that, since iDany typically posts infrequently as both alignments
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Post Post #480 (isolation #70) » Thu Apr 02, 2020 10:22 am

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It's going to be hard to answer a question for a viewpoint he hasnt expressed
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Post Post #485 (isolation #71) » Thu Apr 02, 2020 9:34 pm

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Ok I reevaluated my reads but I started falling asleep around page 16
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Town Block//


Allomancer
Mavsfan
BBmolla

Town Lean//


Paragon-Titus
iDanyboy

Town Inclined??//


Geraintm
Cat Scratch Fever
bob

Undecided//


TheTrollie
Espressojet
Skellen-Madoka
Bambi Jay
I may or may not be able to explain these if asked but you're more than welcome to try me
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Post Post #488 (isolation #72) » Thu Apr 02, 2020 9:56 pm

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While I was reflecting on the list I came to the realization that I don't really know exactly why I lean town on paragon, but I decided "Whatever I'm not changing it."

Also I admit my reason for townreading Cat early on was a bit shabby, but I didn't have a lot to go off of. I kind of placed her in the town block for one thing that could just as well be done by scum and she hasn't posted too much since then

that's an interesting coincidence you chose those reads in particular just for that im gonna

UNVOTE:
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Post Post #499 (isolation #73) » Fri Apr 03, 2020 6:44 am

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In post 491, Titus wrote:Desperately frustrated by the number of people that think it's ok to answer on behalf of anyone else, much less Danyboy and Expressojet. Almost certainly one should be scum. If it's a fact question sure, but such defenses get in the way of reading shots.
He pretty much answered first in . That post makes it fairly clear to me he doesn't have any new townread on Dany.

I considered not making the comment, but I think asking "Why is Dany town?" to someone who hasn't indicated he townreads Dany, then again indicates he doesn't intend to defend Dany is at best unuseful and at worst some kind of loaded question setup

That being said if this is some kind of scumhunting technique I apologize if I hindered it
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Post Post #557 (isolation #74) » Sat Apr 04, 2020 6:43 am

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In post 552, iDanyboy wrote:@Bambi Why say you have more time for the game and then ignore the game?
Espresso’s vote on me makes sense if his scum, I can’t see the town him voting me.
Titus’s vote I get prefer he voted Esspresso instead.
BB vote on me annoys me but his almost confirmed town so nothing I can say
Why does town espresso not vote for you?
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Post Post #560 (isolation #75) » Sat Apr 04, 2020 6:52 am

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I think it's a well thought out case but my conclusion upon reading it was simply that mavs is an uncertain player. I might read the game you mentioned though to get a bigger perspective
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Post Post #563 (isolation #76) » Sat Apr 04, 2020 6:58 am

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478 I think mavs doesn't vote in this post as a joke response to iDany asking him to vote somebody. I think it's feasible for town mav to do this
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Post Post #565 (isolation #77) » Sat Apr 04, 2020 7:00 am

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I'll check it out although I don't *think* I wanna vote mavs today. I also don't exactly wanna vote iDany but I prefer that to mavs
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Post Post #589 (isolation #78) » Sat Apr 04, 2020 12:36 pm

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^^^^^^

I also think bob stands a fairish chance at being scum but I feel increasingly alone on that
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Post Post #594 (isolation #79) » Sat Apr 04, 2020 3:50 pm

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VOTE: Bob
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Post Post #618 (isolation #80) » Sun Apr 05, 2020 8:27 am

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In post 604, TheTrollie wrote:I'd vote titus

I would vote bob for the lolz but I recall having strong townread on him from the beginning.

I'll still also vote bambi too?

I had a really strong townread on mavs from page 1.

I will vote with BB but I'm going to hold on putting that vote on Bob for a few hrs because I would prefer Madoka, Titus, Bambi...maybe even espressojet, idanny, gerain to bob.

But I'd have to reread the whole Bob thing from early in the day before I do anything other than be the 7th vote on bob and I sorta don't want to spend my time doing that.

So - i guess either wagon someone on my list above or get that wagon to 6 and I'll post intent.
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l think saying "I'll vote bob but I'd rather vote anyone else out of these 7" is fair given the state of the timer.

Bob is my favourite lynch but I can compromise to Titus/Bambi/Espresso as the timer drains. I don't reaaly wanna vote mavs, iDany, or gerain
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Post Post #636 (isolation #81) » Sun Apr 05, 2020 1:35 pm

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Titus drops some deep conspiracy stuff on Espresso and iDany. None of which has echoed my own thoughts at all but is still really interesting to read through.

Don't want to lynch Madoka slot and kinda not feeling Espresso lynch from his reactions. Bob saying he'll be useful day 4 doesn't clear him for me, but I am not pleased with Titus' entrance thus far so

VOTE: Titus
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Post Post #639 (isolation #82) » Sun Apr 05, 2020 1:37 pm

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I'm doin alright Titus! Don't you think all of the associations you're making aren't really all that useful?
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Post Post #642 (isolation #83) » Sun Apr 05, 2020 2:11 pm

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In post 640, Titus wrote:
In post 639, Morning Tweet wrote:I'm doin alright Titus! Don't you think all of the associations you're making aren't really all that useful?
I have my theory now, so I consider it quite useful. I feel behind if I don't have one.

I'll admit, it's not useful for scum.
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Post Post #656 (isolation #84) » Sun Apr 05, 2020 5:37 pm

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Bambi Jay wrote:Hmm. Masonry checks out then as a false positive. Or *scum conspiracy hat* It's scum PT cop to find the Masons.

Doubt that part though.
I'm sure it's either a real town claim or just made up entirely without it having to be a scum role

I'm not sure which

In the middle of my reread rn; I miss when we were all voting Bob
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Post Post #657 (isolation #85) » Sun Apr 05, 2020 5:50 pm

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BB/Allo/Danyboy is my town block for the end of the day. Mavs and Mala-Madoka-Skelly are runner-ups.

To be perfectly honest Espresso has been lightly toning town for me as the day winds down but I'd easily accept being wrong on that and I'd certainly vote him over Mala/Trollie.

Just need to figure Titus' claim out......................... somebody helpp
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Post Post #659 (isolation #86) » Sun Apr 05, 2020 6:17 pm

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It's more or less Espresso or Titus so that doesn't surprise me
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Post Post #660 (isolation #87) » Sun Apr 05, 2020 6:30 pm

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I think that, from the Paragon-Titus slot, I don't have some kind of massive scumread large enough to justify the risk of mislynching a PR.

im not sure if this is the correct way of going about this, but that's the conclusion ive come to ig

UNVOTE:

I'm going to send my final vote at the very last moment I can before heading to bed
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Post Post #663 (isolation #88) » Sun Apr 05, 2020 7:31 pm

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VOTE: Bob
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Post Post #666 (isolation #89) » Sun Apr 05, 2020 9:35 pm

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join us on the conquest for lynching bob
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Post Post #703 (isolation #90) » Wed Apr 08, 2020 5:14 am

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Damn!
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Post Post #1784 (isolation #91) » Fri Jun 05, 2020 9:08 am

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Dear god

It's finally over

So I spectated the game semi-closely for what felt like months knowing it was already lost

you guys prolly should have just no-lynched repeatedly and gotten a flip from a nightkill. then maybe you wouldve figured out that Bambi wasn't confirmed town, but for the most part i think the game was just lost cause of that
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Post Post #1787 (isolation #92) » Fri Jun 05, 2020 9:10 am

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BBMolla wrote:I’m neighborizing morning tweet
Allomancer wrote:Oh I was just about to neighborize her. I'll go with Cat Scratch Fever instead.
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Post Post #1788 (isolation #93) » Fri Jun 05, 2020 9:11 am

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I agree smart play by Bambi. Wish the game would have resolved a little bit quicker cause it was pretty much just months of nothing after that. but still a really good job!
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