When did Y and T become a TR for you?In post 1550, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Enter/Yshtola&Tataru/RCE are my townreads right now.
Agree that Nati/Titus are suspicious.
VOTE: Natirasha
So? This isn't a normal game.In post 1556, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Because two kills on night 1 and Y&T claimed one of them.In post 1554, Titus wrote:When did Y and T become a TR for you?In post 1550, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Enter/Yshtola&Tataru/RCE are my townreads right now.
Agree that Nati/Titus are suspicious.
VOTE: Natirasha
The votes don't highlight Nati one way or the other yet. I haven't interacted with them but they are a huge reason I subbed in. I miss them.In post 1560, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Alisae also strongly argued for Y&T being scum/SK.In post 1558, Titus wrote:So? This isn't a normal game.In post 1556, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Because two kills on night 1 and Y&T claimed one of them.In post 1554, Titus wrote:When did Y and T become a TR for you?In post 1550, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Enter/Yshtola&Tataru/RCE are my townreads right now.
Agree that Nati/Titus are suspicious.
VOTE: Natirasha
What's your read on Nati?
Makes sense if Alisae was a planned bus.In post 1562, Yshtola and Tataru wrote:Alisae hard defended me D1 and then literally did a 180 after my vig shot. I also had voting restrictions for D2.
-Tataru
He's probably town too.In post 1564, Yshtola and Tataru wrote:VOTE: HirakiIn post 1552, Yshtola and Tataru wrote:~Y'shtolaIn post 1469, Yshtola and Tataru wrote:VOTE: RCEnigma
VOTE: L and Light
VOTE: Hectic
VOTE: Hiraki
~Aetherologist
~Y'shtola
Sure. He's leading wagons on D1 and D2. Bonus that it's likely on scum. There's literally no scum on the Y and T wagon.In post 1563, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Can you expand on this.In post 1557, Titus wrote:Oh and no one is touching the LL hydra. That's obvtown.
They shot on the opposing wagon. SmhIn post 1601, RCEnigma wrote:The question wasn't directed at me but I don't think Titus comes in, sees the day 1 VC and surmises that all scum were on the chemist wagon and also shot on the chemist wagon.In post 1598, L and Light wrote:...In post 1591, Yshtola and Tataru wrote:The posts were kind of just eh and I thought they could be bussing.
I also am not a big fan of Titus' entry.
-Tataru
but they were voting Norwee not Ali?
also do you really think that wolf!Titus immediately comes into thread scum reading 2 of the townier(based on flips) in the game and locktowning me?
the scum reads may or may not be accurate, but its just like, the boldness thats good.
well I completely forgot about that if that happened:vIn post 1595, Natirasha wrote:also idk why you would target me I already said I didn't have any night actions.
-Light
That doesn't feel organic.
If you have Y and T town, you should lock scum EE.In post 1589, L and Light wrote:Top town Hectic/Y&T
Norwee also town
RCE probably town
Enter nullish
Nati interactions are bad
Hiraki wolf
I agree.
Then why wait to vote me until after my VCA put you as a scum suspect? Why wait until after Y and T supported it?In post 1605, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Well yes. Since you so helpfully outed it. I do strongly believe you are scum based on the fact our hood has 3 people in it. It obviously could not be Y&T based on his vig shot ability, leaving only you.In post 1603, Titus wrote:2) A hood if 3 plus almost always has a scum in it.
This is why Titus needs to be lynched, because them flipping scum will confirm that me and Yshtola/Tataru are definitely town. I had suspicions there before, but after witnessing their entrance today. I really don't see any reason for Titus to not be the lynch today.
Not with the VC turning to save you. You had more value to the scumteam than Chemist as no scum were on your wagon. If you're town either a) meant your reads were horrible and were likely agency captured or b) scum felt they could use you more than chemist.In post 1607, Yshtola and Tataru wrote:Have you ever played a TK game before? I have. I wouldn't be surprised if the neighborhood is all town.
-Tataru
I trust VCA more than any game reading, even my own. A TK game is irrelevant for my VCA. The hood is a weaker point.In post 1610, Yshtola and Tataru wrote:In post 1609, Bitmap wrote:You want to implode the whole hood because you didn't take the time to read the thread and are only going by VCA and the thought "there must be one scum confirmed in hood" in a TK game?
Lol no.
-Tataru
In post 1553, Titus wrote:Spoiler: VCs
We have contentious wagons and scum deliberately began killing off the people on the Y and T wagon. Known scum was on Chemist.
It's not surprising that hydra comes in here and takes a swing at me after my VCA suggests they are scum and I told them as much in the hood.
Particularly VC 1.4 and 1.5. You're the tie creating vote on the Chemist wagon.In post 1555, Titus wrote:If we argue Y and T are town, despite the convience and scum deciding that Y and T are more valuable, then NorweiganEE is likely scum due to his passive vote assuring two t v t wagons.
Y and T, pride or scum.In post 1617, Hiraki wrote:I don't get how everyone is trying to invalidate Titus here. Why not actually debate her on her VCA analysis?
^^^ Caught for wrong reasons.In post 1619, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Titus already said they didn't read the game in the hood. Why should i debate them on this BS.
@RCE, AbuH is Gobble who was on the Y and T wagon.In post 410, Tatsuya Kaname wrote:Yshtola and Tataru (5, L-2): L and Light, AbuHumaid, Torque, NorwegianboyEE, Enter
Yup.In post 1623, RCEnigma wrote:The hood thing is interesting though. This existed at game start?
Just because I scumhunt differently doesn't make me wrong.In post 1624, Yshtola and Tataru wrote:WhatIn post 1617, Hiraki wrote:I don't get how everyone is trying to invalidate Titus here. Why not actually debate her on her VCA analysis?
What
What the fuck?
She didn't even read the game.
-Tataru
Dude the Y and T wagon wasn't an RVS wagon. It lasted until VC 1.5 and had a counterwagon fight most of the day. You should care about which wagon people are on prehammer if you look at reactions or NKA.In post 1629, RCEnigma wrote:You can't conclude scum shot off wagon if at day end, gobble was ON wagon.In post 1625, Titus wrote:@RCE, AbuH is Gobble who was on the Y and T wagon.In post 410, Tatsuya Kaname wrote:Yshtola and Tataru (5, L-2): L and Light, AbuHumaid, Torque, NorwegianboyEE, Enter
IDC about the wagon he was on before hammer, or what wagon he was on in rvs.
I only read it because a) I was there from the start and b) I was confident my VCA would be fucked with.In post 1632, Yshtola and Tataru wrote:Yes, but you actually read the game that time.In post 1630, Titus wrote:Bitmap, you should know how highly I prize VCA from Titus v Alisae.
-Tataru
Actually it does. It's more evidence Enter's not scum on the Y and T wagon.In post 1636, RCEnigma wrote:This won't really mean much to anyone else but alisaes pt interactions regarding Enter follow the same pattern as the ones regarding chemist. Alisae was fishing for that lynch from the beginning of the day and I bit.
And that context includes how obvtown the slot is and what the slot did prior.In post 1637, RCEnigma wrote:With context, mostly.In post 1633, Titus wrote:Dude the Y and T wagon wasn't an RVS wagon. It lasted until VC 1.5 and had a counterwagon fight most of the day. You should care about which wagon people are on prehammer if you look at reactions or NKA.In post 1629, RCEnigma wrote:You can't conclude scum shot off wagon if at day end, gobble was ON wagon.In post 1625, Titus wrote:@RCE, AbuH is Gobble who was on the Y and T wagon.In post 410, Tatsuya Kaname wrote:Yshtola and Tataru (5, L-2): L and Light, AbuHumaid, Torque, NorwegianboyEE, Enter
IDC about the wagon he was on before hammer, or what wagon he was on in rvs.
How can you determine which reactions are good or bad without factoring who scum kill and why?
@RCE, Tell me who is scum here.In post 1625, Titus wrote:@RCE, AbuH is Gobble who was on the Y and T wagon.In post 410, Tatsuya Kaname wrote:Yshtola and Tataru (5, L-2): L and Light, AbuHumaid, Torque, NorwegianboyEE, Enter
True, but if you're lying I would suppose someone would call you out on it. Second, your engagement with me has been pretty town.In post 1642, RCEnigma wrote:You would have to take my word for it.In post 1638, Titus wrote:Actually it does. It's more evidence Enter's not scum on the Y and T wagon.In post 1636, RCEnigma wrote:This won't really mean much to anyone else but alisaes pt interactions regarding Enter follow the same pattern as the ones regarding chemist. Alisae was fishing for that lynch from the beginning of the day and I bit.
So when did you stop trolling? If you were trolling, it's an easy place for scum like EE to hide all day. Particularly when your wagon lasts all day.In post 1644, Yshtola and Tataru wrote:k I'm going to break character just this onceIn post 1640, Titus wrote:@RCE, Tell me who is scum here.In post 1625, Titus wrote:@RCE, AbuH is Gobble who was on the Y and T wagon.In post 410, Tatsuya Kaname wrote:Yshtola and Tataru (5, L-2): L and Light, AbuHumaid, Torque, NorwegianboyEE, Enter
It's not L and L because wagon position and confidence.
It's not Abu/Gobble. It's not Torque. It's not Enter.
FYPOV, this wagon is all town or EE is scum.
but this specific VC doesn't mean jack shit considering it's a hydra of Bitmap + trolling partner and it's early into the game
try again ty
~Y'shtola
All town wagon with a counterwagon lynch on town doesn't happen. Too much wagon participation. Y and T had value to the scumteam but not that much value unless you place Y and T as scum.In post 1646, RCEnigma wrote:But now you're getting closer to where I was focusing.In post 1643, RCEnigma wrote:It could be all town. It's not even what I was arguing.In post 1640, Titus wrote:@RCE, Tell me who is scum here.In post 1625, Titus wrote:@RCE, AbuH is Gobble who was on the Y and T wagon.In post 410, Tatsuya Kaname wrote:Yshtola and Tataru (5, L-2): L and Light, AbuHumaid, Torque, NorwegianboyEE, Enter
It's not L and L because wagon position and confidence.
It's not Abu/Gobble. It's not Torque. It's not Enter.
FYPOV, this wagon is all town or EE is scum.
Go on.In post 1648, RCEnigma wrote:I think kerset was the kill because she hit the nail on the head regarding why gobble was the n1 target. Which spews Y&T town.
Y and T has a greater value to the scumteam than Chemist.In post 1651, RCEnigma wrote:Sidebar, why does EE!scum flip reads on y&t considering chemist flipped town? Instead of pushing that Y&T was the counterwagon.In post 1647, Titus wrote:So when did you stop trolling? If you were trolling, it's an easy place for scum like EE to hide all day. Particularly when your wagon lasts all day.In post 1644, Yshtola and Tataru wrote:k I'm going to break character just this onceIn post 1640, Titus wrote:@RCE, Tell me who is scum here.In post 1625, Titus wrote:@RCE, AbuH is Gobble who was on the Y and T wagon.In post 410, Tatsuya Kaname wrote:Yshtola and Tataru (5, L-2): L and Light, AbuHumaid, Torque, NorwegianboyEE, Enter
It's not L and L because wagon position and confidence.
It's not Abu/Gobble. It's not Torque. It's not Enter.
FYPOV, this wagon is all town or EE is scum.
but this specific VC doesn't mean jack shit considering it's a hydra of Bitmap + trolling partner and it's early into the game
try again ty
~Y'shtola
Yes, if Alisae knew she was dying. Alisae had a role that had massive negative utility. Better her than EE.In post 1658, Hiraki wrote:EE was the counterwagon yesterday. Do you see a scenario where yesterday was SvS? And TRUST ME, I would love to just say that EE is scum at this point. I think you have a higher chance after Hectic's weird postings at the end of yesterday. I don't even know if he got on the wagon at the end of it all.
Nati is the attempted but failed mislynch so they bussed Ali instead.In post 1659, Yshtola and Tataru wrote:Spoiler:
I hearken upon thee. Look upon yonder vote counts and recall the situation unfolding before our eyes.
Tell me, which do you see and to which you would point.
Speak quickly now. Time is short.
~Y'shtola
This is something I would never agree with as Y and T could just shoot again?In post 1661, RCEnigma wrote:Kerset caught y&t crumbing vig day 1 and theorized that scum was attempting to double stack the nk with the vig target to pin y&t as the mislynch d2.In post 1654, Titus wrote:Go on.In post 1648, RCEnigma wrote:I think kerset was the kill because she hit the nail on the head regarding why gobble was the n1 target. Which spews Y&T town.
Torque was a consensus townread however so they missed. I don't see another reason to target a claimed Miller unless they think enter is VT.
Nati wagon would be too overloaded with scum. Remember EE is scum too.In post 1665, RCEnigma wrote:Alisae easily could have pushed the nati lynch over. I was actively campaigning against nati in the pts and they could have easily credited their read switch to my cases.In post 1662, Titus wrote:Nati is the attempted but failed mislynch so they bussed Ali instead.In post 1659, Yshtola and Tataru wrote:Spoiler:
I hearken upon thee. Look upon yonder vote counts and recall the situation unfolding before our eyes.
Tell me, which do you see and to which you would point.
Speak quickly now. Time is short.
~Y'shtola
The Chemist wagon isn't overloaded with EE being scum.In post 1668, RCEnigma wrote:Why would this matter more than chemist wagon being overloaded with scum?In post 1667, Titus wrote:Nati wagon would be too overloaded with scum. Remember EE is scum too.In post 1665, RCEnigma wrote:Alisae easily could have pushed the nati lynch over. I was actively campaigning against nati in the pts and they could have easily credited their read switch to my cases.In post 1662, Titus wrote:Nati is the attempted but failed mislynch so they bussed Ali instead.In post 1659, Yshtola and Tataru wrote:Spoiler:
I hearken upon thee. Look upon yonder vote counts and recall the situation unfolding before our eyes.
Tell me, which do you see and to which you would point.
Speak quickly now. Time is short.
~Y'shtola
When the alternative is exposing the scumteam, yes.In post 1674, Enter wrote:Nati wasn't lynched because Ali refused to vote for Nati.In post 1662, Titus wrote:Nati is the attempted but failed mislynch so they bussed Ali instead.
So your argument is that Ali would rather that they die than town?
No claim here. Ok.In post 1701, Natirasha wrote:Everyone remember tomorrow to listen to Titus. I'm content dying.
I wasn't kidding when I said I invented VCA. Sorry for killing your motivation with my lock on.In post 1713, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Wtf Titus. Did you learn this shit from nomination mafia?
Norwee literally claimed scum.In post 1745, Hiraki wrote:I need to think about everything that is going on. The puzzle pieces aren't fitting. I have a role to do with this too. It's the reason I've been silent / haven't voted Norwee yet.