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In post 28, shiki wrote:
yes, i researched the player list, though some more extensively than others.In post 26, Datisi wrote:Have you researched others in the game (other than Luca)?You and I are going to get along great.In post 32, HoldenGolden wrote:Fair enough. I would be more alarmed if you said a more recent time-frameThis is suspicious to me. Why would he state a more recent time if it doesn't exist?
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In post 36, HoldenGolden wrote:
You are correct that there is no more recent games from me.In post 34, Madoka wrote:In post 28, shiki wrote:
yes, i researched the player list, though some more extensively than others.In post 26, Datisi wrote:Have you researched others in the game (other than Luca)?You and I are going to get along great.In post 32, HoldenGolden wrote:Fair enough. I would be more alarmed if you said a more recent time-frameThis is suspicious to me. Why would he state a more recent time if it doesn't exist?
However the question was when he acquainted himself with my games. Aka, I was testing to see if it was actually a legit reason from him which I think so since he gave a more precise and believable timeI see. But why does the timeframe matter if he had a reason for looking at the game either way? If he said he reviewed the game for research in a more recent game, would you find it suspicious?- Madoka
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In post 39, HoldenGolden wrote:Spoiler:
It has nothing to do with the reason to meta me. Allow me to expand further
*Put on your big brain hats, takes a deep breath*
As you can see at the top of this page there was a span of 2 minutes between me posing the question and his answer. This is important as here are two examples of the answers I am expecting:
"It was back when you were playing"
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"I read 1944 for newbie 1952"
If I am gauging if he was being artificial about his view on me, then one of these clearly sounds more scummy then the other. The former is open ended, vague, and easily bullshitable. The other meanwhile is precise and narrow scoped. Factor in the short time frame in the response to the question and with it being more what I expect if he was being truthful, then I am left with a pretty easy conclusion. Yes, this is assuming that 2 mins is not enough time to make the response to it, but that's the philosophical razor for you
Now a question of my own: What do you make of it now given my rational? Ball is back in your courtI like your reasoning, but neither of those answers is a more recent time frame. You stated that you would be alarmed if he had given a more recent time frame. What would that have looked like?- Madoka
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Oh, there's no meaning, I just like to look at them. I'll stick with blue. It never occurred to me that red-green colorblind individuals would have difficulty distinguishing those colors from the background.In post 73, bugspray wrote:pedit: no, madoka but it seems like you're definitely trying to convey some meaning and i'm bad at figuring that stuff out- Madoka
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In post 93, Hiraki wrote:My scumread?Are you referring to Luca? How long has he been a scum read? You're voting George.- Madoka
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Were you saying that Luca's 85 was lamist for agreeing that he is town?In post 112, bugspray wrote:it was a tinfoil hat brainworm post
What does brainworm mean?- Madoka
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What language is this?In post 144, humaneatingmonkey wrote:in my first language- Madoka
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Yes, is there anyone in particular you would like my opinion of?In post 178, humaneatingmonkey wrote:do you have impressions or weak reads?- Madoka
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In post 182, Datisi wrote:Madoka, is there any use in not outright saying ypur impressions on the entirety of the playerlist? Or at list on whoever you have a read?Yes, I don't think it's useful to provide opinions I'm not certain of unless I am asked about them.In post 183, shiki wrote: is this for activity reasons? if so, it was late for me. if not, why? do you find george's limited activity to be scummy? or one of his posts? or simply the use of the familiarity between him and bugspray? or do you think we should focus our attention on him simply to get more out of him?Yes, the last line.In post 194, HoldenGolden wrote:Madoka I too would like to hear your reads and all that are not neutral unless there is a good reason you are on the fence for somebody. Especially for the three people you listed.I don't have a read on George or Shiki. I am leaning scum on bugs. I agree with all of the reasons Datisi has put forth.In post 205, Luca Blight wrote:@Datisi: ‘Contradictory’ was in reference to Monkey’s stance on Bugs - he doesn’t like your vote as Bugs hasn’t been scummy yet he approves of the pressure on Bugs.
I didn’t particularly ‘like’ Monkey’s Datisi explanation, but I can see where he’s coming from (I’ve already said I didn’t like your opening much either).
As for my read on Monkey, I was beginning to TR him towards the end of his argument with Hiraki, but I’ll need to ISO before I’m confident on that read.Is this really a contradiction though? Feeling that Datisi is agenda-driven and being OK with pressuring bugs into posting more are independent of each other. Did Hem address this to your satisfaction?- Madoka
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Your wagon hasn't stagnated though. It takes 5 votes to lynch. And it was only hours into the game.In post 232, bugspray wrote:if days lasted 7 days maybe id agree about to stagnation but days are much shorter so wagons stagnate quicker it just makes sense- Madoka
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Bugs responded to this, but I think it was directed at me.In post 231, HoldenGolden wrote:Why did you choose to draw focus then to Shiki as opposed to other players in the game? I understand not having a read on Mr. starbucks, but you did not really clear the shiki part of it with that post.
By focus, I just meant I wanted more content from them. It wasn't a complaint about activity (I know we all have different active times) or meant to throw shade. But oftentimes in games, the same few people will have the majority of the posts which isn't useful. In particular, I felt that Hem vs Hiraki was belabored and I didn't think it would be helpful for them to continue going at it. I'd rather hear more from bugs, Shiki, and George. I wanted more from you at the time as well, but you had already shown an indication that you were probably going to be one of the more vocal slots.- Madoka
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If your wagon grew any more then the day would end and we don't want the day to end? This is silly.In post 238, bugspray wrote:what the fuck is a stagnant wagon then??
like its been more than 1/3 of the ENTIRE day and my wagon hasn't grown that feels pretty fstagnant to me- Madoka
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Why Hikari?In post 265, bugspray wrote:my lunch pool is hikari>gb=shiki- Madoka
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Can you give an example? Also what happened to your Datisi read?In post 268, bugspray wrote:his vibes feel weird to me- Madoka
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That's why you have to lynch him before he gets the chance.In post 285, Datisi wrote:I need like 4 of those tbh insomnia's been killing me the past week- Madoka
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Bugs can you answer this? Also, your new playstyle isn't working. It would be helpful if you scum hunted, especially since this is a Blitz game.In post 269, Madoka wrote:
Can you give an example? Also what happened to your Datisi read?In post 268, bugspray wrote:his vibes feel weird to me- Madoka
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In post 391, bugspray wrote:oh my god i forgot madokaSpoiler:- Madoka
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I really like Shiki as a player. Wow.
No, is there a reason it should?In post 307, GeorgeBailey wrote:
Has your read on Bugs changed at all?In post 227, Madoka wrote:I am leaning scum on bugs. I agree with all of the reasons Datisi has put forth.- Madoka
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If you scum read HEM and George why would you need a replacement for Luca?In post 327, Hiraki wrote:I'll vote bugs as a compromise if you guys swear that HEM or George dies tomorrow. Willing to re-evaluate my Luca read based on the current postings. Not sure who replaces him though.- Madoka
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No p > q doesn't necessarily lead to p > q. Example:In post 352, bugspray wrote:that sounds like begging the question with extra steps
like if im assuming p and then find a q and say p->q therefore q->p i THInk??
am i understanding this shit right
If I'm in the bath, then I am wet. Does not mean that if I am wet, I am in the bath. There are other reasons I could be wet.
Similarly, as Datisi was saying. If you're scum, you like to do compromise lynches. Does not mean if you like to do compromise lynches you are scum. There are other reasons you could like to do compromise lynches.- Madoka
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Do you use blue light filters on your devices? I found that to be the reason for my insomnia previously.In post 446, Datisi wrote:Some three hours.
I will have my vote soon.- Madoka
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George, these were the points by Shiki that I wanted your opinion of:In post 183, shiki wrote:
i am very wary of this approach to hiraki. hiraki is repeatedly lynched as town, but not usually on day one. scumreading him but not pushing or voting him until he goaded you into it feels like setting up later actions.In post 114, humaneatingmonkey wrote:honestly, my vibe is you're a bit defensive. which is what you're doing now. i'm not hot and bothered about it because it's non-AI in itself. but it's nice to see you react to it because that part's almost AI.
some of hiraki's play here seems out of character (no ego post, not waiting for the game to develop to post much [which is likely explained by this being a blitz game]), but his reactions to monkey's actions seem consistent with past behaviour as town in similar situations. his general unpleasantness is not alignment indicative, as can be determined by even the most cursory of meta overviews.In post 193, shiki wrote:
i take something similar out of these interactions. i do not think monkey wanted to push hiraki, but hiraki kinda forced his hand. it felt to me like he wanted to push datisi, while saving hiraki scumread for later. sowing the seeds, if you will.In post 192, HoldenGolden wrote:Thoughts by anyone on what I raised so far?In post 199, shiki wrote:
it means that it felt like monkey wanted to scumread you but make no real effort to push you right then, but you engaged him on his scumread to the point where he could no longer ignore it.In post 195, Hiraki wrote:What does this mean?- Madoka
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Process of Elimination. I think Luca is the only one that can be partners with either Hiraki or Bugs (and yes I'm aware that Luca has been on bugs, but I think if bugs is scum they are probably being buIn post 456, GeorgeBailey wrote:UNVOTE: Hiraki
Er, Madoka what about your Bug scumread? Also why are you scumreading Luca?gseed). If I have time and no one hammers, I can go through why I only think Luca can be their partner.
You're scum reading Hem then?In post 460, GeorgeBailey wrote:
Most of it sounds very in line with my reasoning.In post 453, Madoka wrote:George, these were the points by Shiki that I wanted your opinion of:- Madoka
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Have you only read Hiraki town games? I think this is Hiraki's scum play. He did the same with someone who's name started with an F in the scum game I read. I'll look back if I have time.In post 469, shiki wrote:why would hiraki, as scum with no pressure on him, push someone who vaguely scumreads him but is not acting on that scumread at all into pushing on him and voting? this does not make sense to me.- Madoka
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I agree with this.In post 469, shiki wrote:possible scum trying to look good in case of town flip to me
And this.In post 474, Luca Blight wrote:know they are much better than this makes it seem as though they’re ‘playing dumb’, for want of a better phrase- Madoka
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This is very suspicious.In post 480, GeorgeBailey wrote:
If you two are the scumteam then GG.In post 475, Datisi wrote:all of you said you'd maybe be willing to vote bugs. would you please be willing to help us out?I'm mostly glad I have all these new totally real recipes to try out
Shiki, your empathy made me feel a lot better.
George, I'll get started now, but it's a lot and I have a meeting soon so may not finish. - Madoka
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