Mini 2134 Gin's Joint Pick4U - GAME OVER

[Gamma Emerald]

I’ve read a bit of this game and I’m TERRIFIED tbh

[Gamma Emerald]

Putting up a safety V/LA until the 17th because my next few days could be turbulent and I don’t want to get replaced accidentally

[Gamma Emerald]

I have two post restrictions.

I would like to eb shot in the face until dead.

Not in the gmae, just.... in real life.

Can we kill Mastina for bneig claimed not town, then kill pine for being scum.

Eehtr order is fine, but Mastina feels more pressing because hltonesy fuck magical mystery powers in a bastard game.

Opened the thread to see this, has LLD claimed her pick because it’s p obvious to me

[Gamma Emerald]

ripping bandaid off

I'm having a hard time following the leap from

mastina

to

Bulbazak

, specifically

(Alisae/MariaR/Pine)

mastina- 4 (

Alisae

, Lady Lambdadelta,

Pine, MariaR

)

L - 3

Pink Ball - 1 (Bulbazak)

L - 6

Bulbazak- 1 (Taly)

L - 6

Pine - 1 (mastina)

L - 6

Bulbazak- 4 (

Alisae, MariaR

, Enter,

Pine

)

L - 3

mastina- 1 (Lady Lambdadelta)

L - 6

Pine- 1 (Bulbazak)

L - 6

The principle to lynching

mastina

is that she's not town, and I genuinely see no reason why

mastina

claims this if she's not 3p - because

town and scum

have incentive and an excuse to lynch her now... and this can't be faithfully written off as a

"safe bus"

for scum to make because the 3p claim is invalidated upon her lynch.

So

Bulbazak-mastina

are almost certainly not aligned here. At worst, it's a self-resolving gambit if they are.

But, why is

Bulbazak

scum for not sharing the willingness to policy lynch

mastina

and scumhunt elsewhere? Unless there's a meta reason that contradicts his way of thinking here, I don't understand how

Bulbazak

-scum has reason to give

mastina

the benefit of the doubt? Especially since everybody else finds a reason to say

mastina's

claim is fake?

I don't understand how

Bulbazak

-scum does this for

mastina

when there's little benefit and all the risk against him... and the

"let's policy lynch 3p-claimed

mastina

!"

feels forced when followed by

"let's lynch

Bulbazak

because he doesn't agree with us on how to handle

mastina

!"

If people believe

mastina

needs to die this dayphase, why is

Bulbazak

higher priority here?
And
If people believe lynching 3p MUST take priority over scumhunting, then why are people hopping off the

mastina

wagon?

This shifting mentality fucks with my brain a bit.

So this is my question and assertion to you three:

(Alisae/MariaR/Pine)

I don't follow your thought process, here.

Alright. This honestly looks like a good place to start hunting.
VOTE: Pine
Out of this set you’ve got a vote on you already

[Gamma Emerald]

I recognize and agree that MariaR and Pine could very easily be scum

Why is Alisae not mentioned?

[Gamma Emerald]

There was an SK and a backup SK in mainstream mafia II

They were aligned. Not that that's relevant

Yeah it’s not. That game was 40 players. A game on my homesite had 48 players and a tandem SK duo (one actually killed while the other provided the BP effect for the pair). This game is 13 players. Run the math on that, why don’t you? We’re not going to have a backup SK in a game this small.

Enter tell me why you’re asking stupid questions.

[Gamma Emerald]

Let me rephrase:

Enter, why are you saying things that act helpful but contribute nothing overall?

[Gamma Emerald]

Quentin Tarantino is a pretty good director in general, IMO

Once Upon a Time in Hollywood wasn't for me

I liked it but I wouldn’t have watched it if Flavor Leaf and eth0s weren’t fucking nerds about it

[Gamma Emerald]

I don't think there's any excitement in just asking everyone to do the one thing that wins her the game. I think that if it were as easy and simple as she says it is, she would enjoy a little resistance and seek to spend the game trying to lure people into achieving her wincon. I don't think she gets much enjoyment out of everyone immediately agreeing to do what she wants.

Well to be blunt.

You have the wrong read on me fella.

I play to win before I play to have fun.

And I'll go straight to the throat on those endeavors.

If I had the ability to win on post 1 or post 9999, your assessment would suggest I'd choose the 9999--I wouldn't; I'd choose the win on post 1.

Btw I’m with mastina here because of goddamn principle, because I tried to do this as 3p once and got slaughtered for it. So like no way do I turn my back on her.

Btw

Guess I’ll masturbate

[Gamma Emerald]

I'm having a hard time following the leap from

mastina

to

Bulbazak

, specifically

(Alisae/MariaR/Pine)

Well to be blunt--while that trio isn't the scumteam, it's got 1-2 scum in it for sure, so.

Agreed

Also think Enter is a strong scum candidate

[Gamma Emerald]

Let me rephrase:

Enter, why are you saying things that act helpful but contribute nothing overall?

I'm not

Really? Because all the backup SK point did was waste time and possibly cause confusion and disharmony. I haven’t read most of the game and I already get the sense you’re openwolfing here.

[Gamma Emerald]

At deadline,

Pink Ball

would be lynched.

Btw what’s up with this?

[Gamma Emerald]

There was an SK and a backup SK in mainstream mafia II

They were aligned. Not that that's relevant

Yeah it’s not. That game was 40 players. A game on my homesite had 48 players and a tandem SK duo (one actually killed while the other provided the BP effect for the pair). This game is 13 players. Run the math on that, why don’t you? We’re not going to have a backup SK in a game this small.

Enter tell me why you’re asking stupid questions.

At no point did I imply there was an SK in this game.

Taly did, however. Where's your response to him?

How and where did Taly imply an SK?

Also I don’t fucking answer to you. I’m playing my way which right now is just reading whatever I can in the time I can allot to this and working with what I’ve got. I’m not going to force myself to catch all the way up for some noble ideal of “playing the game as a service”. Fuck that.

[Gamma Emerald]

Sorry, it wasn't Taly who brought up the point about there being a potential SK, someone just pointed out that anyone can buy a vig shot in the shop.

Yeah you better step down before I step up

[Gamma Emerald]

SO much entitlement in: "I don't answer to you, I'm not going to catch up for the "noble idea of playing the game"

AS A SERVICE. This is a HOBBY. Get bent with your out-of-context smear tactics.

[Gamma Emerald]

How and where did Taly imply an SK?

Also I don’t fucking answer to you. I’m playing my way which right now is just reading whatever I can in the time I can allot to this and working with what I’ve got. I’m not going to force myself to catch all the way up for some noble ideal of “playing the game as a service”. Fuck that.

The attitude here is so fucking ridiculous I'm still trying to wrap my brain around it. The closest thing I've heard to it is items like "noble idea of vaccinating my children." You signed up for the game, now play it or replace out.

Sorry, it wasn't Taly who brought up the point about there being a potential SK, someone just pointed out that anyone can buy a vig shot in the shop.

Yeah you better step down before I step up

I hope you step up because it will be the most ridiculous thing since sending Eddie the Eagle to the Olympics. I'd love to see you try to stand on that pile of garbage that is literally just you pulling posts w/o context from the thread and calling it a case.

Like I am playing the game, if that entails being fully caught up to you then we have very different concepts of that term. I declared myself V/LA so I wouldn’t have to feel pressure to fucking post while dealing with settling into a new schedule. This game has actually fucked with my mental health so back off buckaroo.

And I won’t call this a case but it is pretty indicative of you being scum and your blowback tells me I’m fucking right.

[Gamma Emerald]

Btw the bolded

There was an SK and a backup SK in mainstream mafia II

They were aligned. Not that that's relevant

Yeah it’s not. That game was 40 players. A game on my homesite had 48 players and a tandem SK duo (one actually killed while the other provided the BP effect for the pair). This game is 13 players. Run the math on that, why don’t you? We’re not going to have a backup SK in a game this small.

Enter tell me why you’re asking stupid questions.

At no point did I imply there was an SK in this game.

Taly did, however. Where's your response to him?

How and where did Taly imply an SK?

Also I don’t fucking answer to you. I’m playing my way which right now is just reading whatever I can in the time I can allot to this and working with what I’ve got. I’m not going to force myself to catch all the way up for some noble ideal of “playing the game as a service”. Fuck that.

Is actually in response to this

Let me rephrase:

Enter, why are you saying things that act helpful but contribute nothing overall?

I'm not

Really? Because all the backup SK point did was waste time and possibly cause confusion and disharmony.

I haven’t read most of the game

and I already get the sense you’re openwolfing here.

That's blatantly apparent.

Because you getting uppity about my catchup status gives me the sense you think it should be “better” which I’m sorry but I’m not catering to your specific sensitivities here dude.

[Gamma Emerald]

Anyone who has purchased something from the shop, can you summarize what the feedback for that looks like?

[Gamma Emerald]

Just that? Is there flavor text?

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: Enter
We’re lynching this or me today

[Gamma Emerald]

My mental health is fine rn but it very likely won’t be if I have to deal with being shit on like this
Enter if you’re not scum this is borderline shitty behavior, you are being flagrantly antagonistic

[Gamma Emerald]

Hey gamma can you take a look at 548 for me?

I really don’t see the issue yet, but I will ask why you are talking about the neighborhood, have you been slanking in there?

Also even if Bulba is scum I’m not pushing mastina barring essentially a mechanical guilty.

[Gamma Emerald]

As for the BP issue take a fucking guess

[Gamma Emerald]

You know I was going to just attempt ignore Enter but I remembered he was responding a ton to me in disproportionate fashion so I checked and he has the most posts rn
So like Enter you can eat shit because you’re the one doing the most work to extend the thread and now you’re here fucking bullying me for suspecting you with a limited scope of the game. The mature thing would have been to encourage me to read the game and figure things out but instead you went ballistic. That’s both scummy as fuck and awful in general.

[Gamma Emerald]

Working on reading rn

I thought we'd have $2? We start the game with $1 and then earn another dollar at the beginning of the day.
...
You guys better buy a lot of death sticks.

I also thought the rules suggested we start with 2

We should all be accountable for where our points are going this game

There are powers like Vig and Ninja in the black market, and if you had enough points to buy one of those and we need to lynch one of those and you can't show what you spent your points on, you should be lynched

Eavesdropper is a half provable role if it lets you spy on neighborhoods, bp isn't but there's only 1 of those

Spiked kool-aid, I don't know what that does, we shouldn't all rush to buy it until some inquisitive soul decides to buy it (and explain what it is, which is important since it shows where their points went for later, and lets us decide whether we want to avoid it or what.

So IMO, if spiked kool-aid is something that makes your points unaccountable, we shouldn't tolerate people buying it

Probably.

Also, I've already bought the Kool-Aid.

Cheers!

So have you said what it does yet?

VOTE: enter
you know what I think PB slipped Enter is scum because in my hood he greated Enter but he didn't post

Wouldn't you vote Pink Ball first?

I like Bulba’s point here, however townpoints to Ali for this observation

[Gamma Emerald]

I s2g I don’t have time for your bullshit Enter
I wasn’t trying to use my mental health as leverage, I just wanted to bring up that this game has fucked me up in the past. And like the fact you keep going back to “He SkImMeD tHrEe PaGeS” tells me you have no real basis for treating me this way and are just feeling cornered.

Like, I started playing with what I had to work with at the time and what did you do? Call me stupid for pushing you without full info, rather than idk,

attempt to inform me what I was missing

? Actually, on that note, what

did

I miss? What makes you so obviously town? If you can present a functional reason right now I’ll drop this tirade.

Also stop with the fucking slanderous rhetoric.

[Gamma Emerald]

Yes and mastina is also a mason with herself remember that

No, no, a masonizer who wins when my masonry has majority of the playerlist.



(At this stage tho. I kinda suspect Ginngie and I have this unique interaction. I submit trollish picks that are basically unrelated to the theme of the UPick but which

technically

could be considered to be following the letter of the UPick but are obviously in violation of the spirit, Ginngie decides, "okay you cheeky little fuck, you get to be a third party this game". My picks were masturbation--the role I got--, mafiascum, coffee, and estrogen.)

But for real. This time, there are no downsides to the town letting me win. Explicitly, the words used are, "This does not end the game.". (It doesn't say I leave the game, so not sure if I leave the game or not.)

Okay now I’m confused

Did you clarify later you wouldn’t leave because I recall hearing that you wouldn’t leave and when you won you would townside

That’s the main basis for me sticking by you rn

[Gamma Emerald]

@Mod, will you just tell us what spiked Kool-Aid does if we just asked you?

You get tipsy.

What the fuck is “tipsy”?

if you incentivize your wincon by saying “only town need to masterbate” then scum are going to do so as well to blend in

Yes well I don't lose if "town masturbate and scum also masturbate", so that's not my problem. It does mean that scum can blend in and prevent being outed when I win, but if scum refuse to masturbate and I win, then they be outed and you can use that info, so like. Win-win if you're town and masturbate.

Yes this
The longer the remaining town delay the more chance scum gets to blend in
Also doubt mastina is faking the “only town” part because that messes with the game after she wins, and I don’t think she’d bother to do that

That's called lying. In the context of a Mafia game, it's fakeclaiming. I'm not an arsonist. I just start random fires in peoples' houses sometimes.

This is disingenuous as fuck and you fucking know it.

If I am a nontown player who is claiming to be town, and I claim the town version of my role, I am lying about my alignment but not my role.

Serial killer->vig is that shift. Disloyal Scum Gladiator->Loyal Town Gladiator is that shift.
Those aren't fucking lies and you wouldn't fucking call them lies.

You don't call a mafia roleblocker claiming to be a town roleblocker a liar, do you?
Then you don't fucking call a serial killer claiming to be a vig a liar.

I’d call that “fakeclaiming your real role”.

dumb is a really aesthetic word if you look into it

It’s kinda...

not

. The word in its roots is kinda ableist.

[Gamma Emerald]

I didn’t try to thunderdome you until you’d already set the tone of our interactions. As I see it I may not be acting right but yours the one who goddamn started this.

How is me trying to play the game with partial information such a motherfucking crime against humanity? Would you rather I just continue to do jack shit? I attempted to get into the game and in return you are assaulting me.

I would have appreciated it if you told me

which

posts to look at. Instead you get upset that I have the

gall

to push you when I haven’t read the entire game. Constructive criticism goes a long way and you don’t seem to get that.

Now, since you clearly have no reason for you to be obvtown, mind telling me what’s so stupid about me pushing you? Like, you could have provided examples of how you were not doing what I called you out for (saying useless things that hurt the situation) but you just shot me down.

Also the rhetoric I take issue with is the “entitled parent” imagery. Make your point but leave that out, it’s obnoxious, slanderous, and bloats your fucking posts.

[Gamma Emerald]

GE

-

Enter

timeout.

you guys have been going at it for 2+ pages and nothing is resolved

ill read the past few pages soon, but i keep seeing your guys' avi continually and the tone is strong

I’m trying to not let Enter keep me from being able to focus on the game rn, but ugh he seems dedicated to making this game absolute hell for me

[Gamma Emerald]

I’ve read a bit of this game and I’m TERRIFIED tbh

Putting up a safety V/LA until the 17th because my next few days could be turbulent and I don’t want to get replaced accidentally

I have two post restrictions.

I would like to eb shot in the face until dead.

Not in the gmae, just.... in real life.

Can we kill Mastina for bneig claimed not town, then kill pine for being scum.

Eehtr order is fine, but Mastina feels more pressing because hltonesy fuck magical mystery powers in a bastard game.

Opened the thread to see this, has LLD claimed her pick because it’s p obvious to me

Is this what you mean by “my opening three posts”?

[Gamma Emerald]

You know what, go fuck yourself. And be very careful if you join another game with me because I’ll be watching you.