Mini 2134 Gin's Joint Pick4U - GAME OVER

[gobbledygook]

it has been 13 months since I have had sexual contact with anyone other than pamela handerson. pamela and I hang out every day, twice a day. we talk, share special moments. its a good friendship

[gobbledygook]

excuse me, role name is literally

masturbating

not masturbation

ok
weird question
not particularly to you Reck since I don't think you would know but

I swear that the survey asks for "4 drugs legal or illicit, real fake, a drug" and I don't see how it fits with the theme?
I'm probably just stupid and missing something tho

yeah i didn't submit any survey stuff so idk how mastina ended up with this role

mastina most definitely wrote an essay on masturbation being her drug of choice. she could probably write an essay on why air is good for you

[gobbledygook]

she could probably write an essay on why air is good for you

I dunno. There is a strong correlation between breathing and dying.

Also, given context I'm going to assume you've read up?

Oh, and hello my turkey friend! Spoilers: I'm probably gonna want you lynched tomorrow.

I read mastina’s claim when this game started because it was hilarious
And you shouldn’t want me lynched I’m very useful
Why have we not designated a scummy player to confirm using the ability

[gobbledygook]

3 reasons, gobble:

1. We need universal agreement.
2. People (like you, just now) keep yolosturbating out of order.
3. Given the situation of {Don't think I can get universal participation today} AND the situation of {I think the trustworthiness of the claim will be easier to analyze with further data} I'm putting off choosing the obvtown to pick the order and letting people masturbate until we're collectively ready to do so.

No you don’t.
I didn’t.
Why do you need to trust the claim?

[gobbledygook]

No you don’t.
I didn’t.
Why do you need to trust the claim?

Nothing happens unless every towny masturbates according to the claim.
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The argument against doing the dirty today is that it could be game ending or massively scumsided, which should be more apparent after a day. Further, mastina's unlikely to die and so sorting it isn't necessary today anyway.

I've explained this before, check my ISO.

1. I understand that. You are all thinking about it wrong and honestly I am surprised and annoyed Mastina played the role this way. We should use this as a way to get 1 single confscum, or 1 single conftown. Not to try to get a coalition. Just force the people who haven’t yet masturbated to not masturbate until we have decided something to do. I think most of the remaining non-masterbators are players that the majority of people have trouble reading and so making one of them confscum or conftown is a net win for us. My suggestion is that we collectively choose who should masturbate once each real life say until just a day or two before the deadline.
2. I said what I said to test the limits of masturbation. I purposefully did not use the word masturbation to see what the mod would count. It appears he counted that even though I wouldn’t have thought he would. It is better I’m not confirmed town anyway because I have high nightkill equity in this playerlist.
3. Why does it matter? So what if we just autolose day 1? We move on with our lives if that’s true (highly unlikely because that’s a dumb as rocks mechanic that I don’t think Ginngie would include). If it is scumsided we won’t know day 2, or day 3, or day whatever until the game is over. That’s a bad argument.

[gobbledygook]

Until further notice, any masturbation by people who did not already masturbate will be treated as a scum claim.

[gobbledygook]

Sup turkey. It would have been nice if you hadn't done that.

Hadn’t done what?

[gobbledygook]

3. Why does it matter? So what if we just autolose day 1? We move on with our lives if that’s true (highly unlikely because that’s a dumb as rocks mechanic that I don’t think Ginngie would include). If it is scumsided we won’t know day 2, or day 3, or day whatever until the game is over. That’s a bad argument.

Why does using it Day 1 matter?

I think there's information to be gained in whether scum chooses to kill on or off wagon, so to speak. I also think there's a potential for a powerful town if it is indeed a scumsided mechanic, and delaying reck slot's departure isn't inherently bad, because he's bulletproof and scum using a strongman there instead of on a potentially useful town player isn't the worst result in the world.

You're also misunderstanding the claim.

It doesn't confirm one player as scum, ever.

If accurately claimed, the last player to masturbate is always town. if we number the player list from 1-13 and masturbate in that order, and 12 and 13 are both scum, it confirms 11 as town and BOTH 12 AND 13 as scum. Which is why yolosturbating is bad. Baaaaaaaaaad.

And you think scum are going to let that happen? Lol

[gobbledygook]

Current nomination for the person to be last to do it is Pine

[gobbledygook]

Here's the critical failure point: If we did this, it always ALWAYS goes to the last person, because scum NEVER allow themselves to be left out, which ALWAYS means we risk everything for nothing.

It's an absolute shit gamble. I agree that it's low-order probability that we lose to Reck here, but it's an even lower probability that we get anything for our trouble.

PE: YOLOsturbated.

If you are town and as you said are not going to risk the day on this, why does it matter that I Yolosturbated?

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2. I said what I said to test the limits of masturbation. I purposefully did not use the word masturbation to see what the mod would count. It appears he counted that even though I wouldn’t have thought he would. It is better I’m not confirmed town anyway because I have high nightkill equity in this playerlist.

Why?

What do you have to gain by figuring out how to not masturbate when we already know how to masturbate? What benefit do you gain by testing instead of simply asking Gingie?

See my point about it’s better for me to be a lower priority kill anyway. I get to test the limits of the mod’s discretion (which seems to be wishy Washy from how he isn’t answering any questions about powers) and I make myself a less prioritized kill.

[gobbledygook]

Here's the critical failure point: If we did this, it always ALWAYS goes to the last person, because scum NEVER allow themselves to be left out, which ALWAYS means we risk everything for nothing.

It's an absolute shit gamble. I agree that it's low-order probability that we lose to Reck here, but it's an even lower probability that we get anything for our trouble.

PE: YOLOsturbated.

If you are town and as you said are not going to risk the day on this, why does it matter that I Yolosturbated?

Because the pool of non-masturbators is down to five, and if Reck is a version of a serial killer it's easy to murder your way through that number.

You didn't think before you acted.

So you are basing this off your hunch that reck is a serial killer who can only kill masturbators?

Why is that even your hunch?

Why is it bad that Reck kills those people? The people in the nonmasturbatory slots are either incredibly hard to read or lurkers which are all fine kills

[gobbledygook]

3. Why does it matter? So what if we just autolose day 1? We move on with our lives if that’s true (highly unlikely because that’s a dumb as rocks mechanic that I don’t think Ginngie would include). If it is scumsided we won’t know day 2, or day 3, or day whatever until the game is over. That’s a bad argument.

Why does using it Day 1 matter?

I think there's information to be gained in whether scum chooses to kill on or off wagon, so to speak. I also think there's a potential for a powerful town if it is indeed a scumsided mechanic, and delaying reck slot's departure isn't inherently bad, because he's bulletproof and scum using a strongman there instead of on a potentially useful town player isn't the worst result in the world.

You're also misunderstanding the claim.

It doesn't confirm one player as scum, ever.

If accurately claimed, the last player to masturbate is always town. if we number the player list from 1-13 and masturbate in that order, and 12 and 13 are both scum, it confirms 11 as town and BOTH 12 AND 13 as scum. Which is why yolosturbating is bad. Baaaaaaaaaad.

Using it day 1 to AT THE VERY LEAST confirm 1 person as town is way better than using it later in the game. Day 1 has the least amount of information. Plus, it allows PRs to play around that person if they are town (i.e. not investigate them, not roleblock them, not vig them). Why are you opposing a plan that gets us more information on the day where we have the least amount of information? On people like LLD, Mariar, Pine, and Dunnstral who are all very good scum players and removing that paranoia about even ONE of them is a boon for the town

[gobbledygook]

is the team really just pine bingle ???

[gobbledygook]

so you guys think the role is a serial killer that can only kill masturbators, or non masturbators?

[gobbledygook]

your reasons for voting me are bad.
and yes Pine was wrong about that in mainstream just like he is wrong about it here. Just because he was town in mainstream doesn't mean he was wrong and doesn't mean he can't be scum here
you can be town for the self resolving thing I forgot about that

[gobbledygook]

lol I can't wait to spite this town

[gobbledygook]

VOTE: Pine

[gobbledygook]

so you guys think the role is a serial killer that can only kill masturbators, or non masturbators?

I'm going to refuse to speculate what specific anti town roles could be behind this claim and which I find most likely on the grounds that doing so could inform the scum team of what their optimal plays are.

I might send a list to the mod to post in spec chat later, though.

save it, I won't care if I'm dead. I'll prefer to watch you continue to throw this game

[gobbledygook]

yeah if people don't want to actually think that's fine, I don't care. Lynch me day 1. If you guys don't i'll just do it myself

[gobbledygook]

So your case on Pine is "Pine genuinely holds this belief and did so as town, provably, in this game I played with him, but I think the belief is wrong and so am going to vote him."

How does that make him scum?

Objectively, whether he's right or wrong doesn't matter. Whether he's right or wrong as town matters.

(Also, even if we don't trust Reckslot we can use the slot to softconfirm 1 town player. We just have to do so on the day we lynch the reckslot.)

No, my scum read on Pine is that he makes no sense and doesn't want to do the plan because he and potentially one other buddy are stuck in non-masturbation pool that could get discovered as scum. So he doesn't want to do and is trying to create paranoia around Reck/Mastina as justification for no one else doing it.
The reckslot is self resolvable TODAY. If he does not leave when everyone masturbates then he is scum and dies and we get a day 1 lynch. That is why Pine's paranoia is bs. If he truly was suspicious of Reck he would just confirm if Reck is telling the truth and then lynch Reck if the things Reck said would happen, do not happen. I do not understand why you never see obvious scum as obvious Bingle, but is it is seriously annoying now that this is the third game you've done this to me.

[gobbledygook]

Look at Pine's iso. No scum hunting. Comes in accusing people of bad play because they are using HUNCHES then literally turns around and says we shouldn't do that "bad play" because HIS HUNCH is that the slot is a serial killer that could kill people who did/did not masturbate. Like wtf? How does that make ANY sense. If Mastina or Reck IS A SERIAL KILLER THEY WILL NOT LEAVE IF WE ALL MASTURBATE. Then, if Mastina/Reck has NOT left the game, which they wouldn't because serial killers can't just leave the game, we just lynch the serial killer before they have had the chance to kill anyone.

???

[gobbledygook]

Survivalistic vote by gobble tbh

It is actually the opposite, Bulba's wagon has more votes and the people actually pushing that wagon have a better chance of getting Bulba lynched. Me moving to Pine with LLD and Reckoner is probably the least survialistic thing I could have done other than vote someone who is obvtownie, or has no votes.

[gobbledygook]

Your hunch could potentially end the game vs his hunch that is being prudent.

Also you picked the one non masturbator who is being wagoned so it's survivalistic and you're justifying your vote to appeal the masses

I have role information that it will not end the game.

[gobbledygook]

Survivalistic vote by gobble tbh

It is actually the opposite, Bulba's wagon has more votes and the people actually pushing that wagon have a better chance of getting Bulba lynched. Me moving to Pine with LLD and Reckoner is probably the least survialistic thing I could have done other than vote someone who is obvtownie, or has no votes.

How do you know that other than looking at the wagon and the people forming the wagons? Have you read the entire game?

No, it is knowing that both Reckoenr and LLD have better things to do than play mafia lmao

[gobbledygook]

You're approaching this from the assumption that Pine is scum, and framing the evidence to support that.

If Pine is town -> Pine would believe this.

Any argument that Pine is scum here based solely on his reckslot stance is bad because it is PROVABLY a stance he would take as either alignment. If you want to argue why Pine is scum without using the reckslot, I'll listen. If you want to talk to me about other reads, I'll be excited (we both know I think your reads are strong). I still think you're scum (enter poisoned the slot quite a bit, which you can't answer for and this does look like you're intentionally missing the point) but I respect you as a player enough to want to get your engagement here.


Did you read my readslist? Do you have any thoughts on people who aren't Pine?

Nah, I'm mad right now. Not gonna play until we go with this obviously better plan or lynch obviously scum Pine. Maybe in a few days we can talk or you can just lynch me. I really don't care. Tired of people fighting me on literally everything all the time Day 1.

[gobbledygook]

PB scum or still angry at me from Furret. Can’t tell

[gobbledygook]

Dunn: I was obviously lying about having role information that it wouldn’t end game. But I would think you all would be aware that if Mastina did have a third party role with a win con that ended the game she would not claim third party and instead come up with some other claim to get people to masturbate. Apparently that is beyond people though that Mastina

[gobbledygook]

I feel like I’m on Punk’d and Ashton Kutcher is waiting in my 100 degree garage to surprise me

[gobbledygook]

Like you people seriously would want to play in a game where the mod gave a 3p a mutually exclusive wincon that can win on day 1?? How does that not make you question the rest of the setup? Like if that’s true, then this game is legitimately not worth playing

Ginngie would not put in a mutually exclusive 3P wincon. There is no way he does that. That role, the MASTURBATION role, is so clearly a meme role and not a threat

[gobbledygook]

C'mon, turkey. You're better than this. Activated ICs are better than Day 1 ICs for a reason.

You had a front row seat to Pine not wanting to humor 3p in exactly this fashion in Mainstream.

You are actively ignoring the point of my posting to support a conclusion you want, not a conclusion that follows from the evidence.

I've already claimed to be self resolving, something I wouldn't do if it weren't true because I actually like winning games.

Also, now that turkey is masturbating I prefer this to PP

VOTE: gobble

Apologies for multiposting, I'm in an RPG videochat elsewhere and getting brief respites while others take their turns.

It should be pointed out that the 3P in Mainsteam WAS LYING.

There 4 3P and only one of them was mutually exclusive and explicitly tied to a serial killer so obviously they would lie. Fade me with that, fam

[gobbledygook]

Setup & Mechanics

• You're pretty much fucked.

So you want to play in an obviously borked setup because why..)

[gobbledygook]

mastina could have lied about the town part of the claim, pointing out that she would leave only if all town masturbated, in order to get us to discuss the posibility to get a conftown/confscum situation, but in reality the wincon is making every single player of the list masturbate and that's a difficult wincon to achieve. Something like "you either make everyone masturbate at the same time or you become a survivor". Suits well with buying a BP, right?

So let's get gobble gobble gobble

Literally no. Occam’s razor says no. Both you and pine have the worst setup spec ever

[gobbledygook]

Bingle why do I feel like you're the only one making any damn sense.

Shit. You're scum, aren't you?

VOTE: turkey

Literally why
Why does anyone think this is town

[gobbledygook]

Yeah I don’t care.

VOTE: Gobbledygook

[gobbledygook]

Yeah I don’t care.

VOTE: Gobbledygook

Don't do that either

They are not worth my time. I’m sorry you’re town. Was looking forward to playing with you.

[gobbledygook]

Like... I cannot express how dumb this plan is...

Their premise is Reck could win the game outright and we lose if we let them get all masturbated
Then they say they want to sort Reck tomorrow. But like... his win condition is not going to change between today and tomorrow, so the same argument is going to apply tomorrow... thah reck could win and everyone else loses. So I don’t understand why people do not want to test it today but will test it tomorrow, or on any future days. It makes zero clucking sense.

[gobbledygook]

Hi guys.
I'm a third party whose wincon is to have everyone who is town in the game masturbate. This, very explicitly, will not end the game, the game will continue after I achieve my wincon, but like. I'm just here to get a good fuck, I'll help the town in exchange for them giving my win in any way that I can but like. I'm not gonna lie, bluntly, I've got one goal in this game and that's to get y'all to masturbate.

And yes, it is specifically every

living

TOWN player.

So like.

You could in theory get some scumhunting out of this!

If my wincon triggers, then you know every living town player was a part of that. Since I doubt I'm the only 3p in the game, that means you can get good info from it, so you've got no reason

not

to masturbate.

Pb how does it change if one or two people die based off this post

[gobbledygook]

Hi guys.
I'm a third party whose wincon is to have everyone who is town in the game masturbate. This, very explicitly, will not end the game, the game will continue after I achieve my wincon, but like. I'm just here to get a good fuck, I'll help the town in exchange for them giving my win in any way that I can but like. I'm not gonna lie, bluntly, I've got one goal in this game and that's to get y'all to masturbate.

And yes, it is specifically every

living

TOWN player.

So like.

You could in theory get some scumhunting out of this!

If my wincon triggers, then you know every living town player was a part of that. Since I doubt I'm the only 3p in the game, that means you can get good info from it, so you've got no reason

not

to masturbate.

Pb how does it change if one or two people die based off this post

What do you mean?

I mean, based off Reck’s claimed role, it literally does not matter if townies die. You will have the same “predicament” today, tomorrow. That’s why it makes no sense to hold off on “solving” Reck. Because if you think his wincon causes us to lose today, it is still going to cause us to lose tomorrow. So there’s no point to wait to solve him. And if Pine’s serial killer paranoia even is real (which it isn’t) then letting Reck have t he opportunity to kill someone tonight is EVEN LESS of a reason to keep him around until tomorrow.

No matter how you chickens cut it, dealing with Reck TODAY is better than dealing with Reck ANY OTHER TIME.

[gobbledygook]

pls posit to me a role i could have that involves getting everyone to jerk off other than what ive claimed

The Collectors was

stabbed

! They were...

Spoiler:

Neutral Wincon Jack of All Trades Neighbor

Welcome to Krazy's Post-Apocalypse upick!



You are Arthur Dent, a

neutral wincon jack of all trades

Mech: You may only use or handle one item or ability at night. You can only activate one wincon per day.

DAY-ABILITY: Wincon Activation. During the first 100 hours of each dayphase, you may activate a win condition for the day. You must BOLD the activation code in the main game thread (not in a spoiler). The word "ACTIVATE" must be caps and in bold before the number code.

ACTIVATE: 1142

-- Codename: JESTER -- If you are lynched this day, you win the game.

ACTIVATE: 2269

-- Codename: LYNCHER -- As soon as possible, the mod will assign you a lynch target among living players. This lynch target will be randomly determined and not restricted to alignment. If that player is lynched, you will exit the game as a winner at the end of the dayphase.

ACTIVATE: 33666

-- Codename: UNJESTER -- if you are successfully killed by a night action the following night, you will win the game.

PASSIVE ITEM: You have a solar-powered walkie talkie. So long as it is DAY, you can talk in a neighborhood to any other individuals with a solar-powered walkie talkie on frequency 4815. The following topic will open during the day: https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=90&t=81913

Win:

If none of the above win conditions are met, you win with any other faction as a survivor.

Game thread here: https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=81907

Confirm:

Please confirm by responding with your alignment and role name

*Note, only the hydra has access to the neighborhood

*Note, the Collectors did not achieve their wincon

"If none of the above win conditions are met, you win with any other faction as a survivor"

How is that a good reason to let Reck live? He could scumside and we would be clucked. Like???

[gobbledygook]

@gobble you're missing the point; if Reck doesn't achieve his wincon today, he turns into a survivor. In that case it's better not solving him today. And I haven't said that it's a reason for letting him live, it's a reason for not dealing with him today. I'd rather lynch scum

Pink Ball. We just lynch him if he doesn’t leave today. Why would we not lynch that today as opposed to later? He would be proven a liar. How does waiting in this scenario do anything for the town if he is a survivor and lied about his win con?

[gobbledygook]

That's a lot of meaningless speculation.

Get off Gobble, Pink.

Weren’t you hard scumreading my slot?

[gobbledygook]

like
im not interested in engaging with you
only reason why i decide to engage with you is because you described me as a "cheater" which doesn't make sense at all.

you literally pre-game faked a guilty on me.

do you not remember this

by page 70-80 something i faked a guilty

Ali, Dunn can you both mastrubate now that it’s been proven any resistance to this plan is not based on logic or even likely events

[gobbledygook]

My poe is {Pine, PP, Alisae, MariaR, Pink Ball, Ari, Taly}

I think it can be narrowed down even further.

[gobbledygook]

3 scum in 7 players is pretty good odds.

[gobbledygook]

Well that is a possibility, I think it is less likely than the norm for having three Mafia.

[gobbledygook]

I don't have super strong townreads on anyone in that PoE pool. I would say Taly is my strongest. Maybe even MariaR as town :O

[gobbledygook]

E feels like e is playing to an agenda

[gobbledygook]

Ali pls masturbate

[gobbledygook]

Somehow MariaR got rid of it and somehow gave it to LLD which seems odd because she wasn’t scumreading LLD

[gobbledygook]

LLD can it be fixed with medicine

[gobbledygook]

LLD becoming conftown gives me conflicting emotions

On the one hand I want her to have the sweet release of death. On the other hand she’s town and that’s bad. On the third hand she also has similar thoughts as me

[gobbledygook]

Try Acid!

Oh that’s what that does? I was gonna buy it once I got 2 dollars

[gobbledygook]

Can you browbeat your fellow chaste players to given in to lust

[gobbledygook]

What are your thoughts on Ari and Pink Ball?

[gobbledygook]

Ok last question, do you think the way Pp has played this game is more like his scum game than his town game? If you know what those differences are

[gobbledygook]

oh...turkey...

I’m not here for a long time just a good time

[gobbledygook]

Dunnstral, pls pleasure yourself

[gobbledygook]

VOTE: Ari

[gobbledygook]

Who is sr-ing gobble and ari and why?

Ftfy

[gobbledygook]

What did Ari claim?

[gobbledygook]

Can you go over why I’m scum again Bingle? I want to dismantle it. I just had an espresso.

[gobbledygook]

What is Dunn’s role?

[gobbledygook]

Bingle I would hope you realize that you and I, after how many times we have bickered over this in MMII and other games, realize we approach mechanics very differently
You are claiming that your way is the only correct way when multiple others (Reck, LLD, Mastina, Bulba) have showed different interpretations the use of Reck’s role enough to make it apparent that your way is not the only way or the de facto correct way.

[gobbledygook]

Has Ari’s role been confirmed? Does it activate in real time?

[gobbledygook]

I’m not going to comment on the Enter stuff. I will repeat that I would hope your experiences with him in MMII that he does not back down easily and is quite aggressive as a person.
I will address the other things in turn once I’m done doing school stuff.

[gobbledygook]

You said Dunn’s role in your summation of your case on me, I think you meant Reck’s role , but I wanted to clarify.

I think using an investigation Day 1 is incredibly powerful bevause Day 1 is the day with the least amount of information. While it is true that investigations are more powerful later, the fact that Mastina felt the need to impulse buy the BP means it’s very real that she could die and we wouldn’t get any use from her role. If someone else had bought the BP, would you still be advocating for this position?

[gobbledygook]

Ginngie, I've liked this song for a while and it reminds me of you, for no particular reason! But I thought you would like it.



Also, Reck, just wanted to say that I really liked your song recommendation. You have good taste in music

[gobbledygook]

Enter - Didn't like his interactions with Gamma. Didn't like his interactions with Taly. Didn't like his shade. Didn't like his Bulb push. Enter here just seems like he's not interested in anything that isn't his Bulb narrative and I'm getting the sense he wants to cut anything else off at the knees.

This, your masturbating immediately after joining the game while demonstrably knowing the theoretical town value in dictating a masturbation order to "test things" when I expect town you would have just asked the mod instead of acting in a way that explains away why you're suddenly not a viable investigation target, your refusal to engage meaningfully with the fact that half measures on masturbation were bad, your refusal to engage meaningfully with the point that utilizing dunn's role tomorrow is actually better, excessive ATE instead of solveyness, and a complete dismissal of the argument that with as much traction against the masturbation trigger as there was pushing for it D1 was a distraction and a waste of time.

1. I apologize for masturbating immediately and I do realize its antitown side effects. At the time, I thought it was better that I did that. However, upon reflection, I think I objectively misplayed that. However, I still stand by the fact that it is a better idea to use Reck's wincon as an investigation Day 1 rather than later. I do appreciate that you are at least beyond the "fear mongering" that Reck's ability could lose us the game. More on this below.

2. See comment above. I do think that I

shouldn't

have been classified as masturbating considering how different my masturbation activation from the others, but I do agree it was reckless and a misplay.

3. I am not sure I understand what you mean by half measures on masturbation? I think it is related to the above points, but I would need clarification for futher comment on my end.

4. I disagree with this. Day 1 we get a conftown or a scum. This helps going into night so that night actions are better optimized. Jailkeepers/Doctors know who to protect. Investigations know not to target that person. It also helps us make better informed purchases. While it is true that when you get a smalller pool a conftown IS stronger it comes at the cost of less efficient night actions or purchases. At what point do you suggest we should use Reckoner's wincon as an investigation? Is this something that you just want floating around as a potential gotcha for scum? I standby that has diminishing returns over using on Day 1. I don't know if you are familiar with the term snowball, but I think having a stronger Day 1 is good to snowball the town to a victory. It makes it easier for the town to win later.

5. I think I have been solving. I have been doing AtE, but that is a personal fault of mine. I hate it when people illogically scumread me. I absolutely hate being scumread Day 1 because it runs contrary to everything I try to do as town which is lay low, ask questions that tie people to certain opinions, and then use those opinions later in the game to analyze contradictions in play when viewed in light of those opinions. I do not like getting into it with people. I like pulling at the loose threads and seeing where that goes.

6. I disagree with this point for multiple reasons. As I said, multiple others have acknowledged the benefit using Reck's wincon ability today. Just because it is the one that is slightly more favored and

your

personal opinion does not mean it is the

right

opinion or the way we

should

go. I think that is a little egotistical on your part, which is not something I would have said about you ever.

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I think that the people who are currently unmasturbated are probably more likely to be town than scum. However, there are some in there that I think have the potential to be scum. The fact that all of the currently unmasturbated people are people others have difficulty reading or have legendary scum games is a perfect opportunity to check them.

For the record, I think that scum have probably already gotten "in" on the ability to avoid being detected as scum by it. The most likely person that I think this applies to is Ari.

Ari looks like the type of scum player who has not played scum in a while and is uncomfortable in playing it so they are playing people and not the game. Look at Ari's iso. It does not look like Ari is scumhunting at this point in the game which is DIFFERENT to how he approached the Team Mafia Game where he very early on was scumhunting. I get you want to keep him around for his ability, but make use of it today and then let's lynch him.

I also think it is interesting that MariaR didn't have time to do anything recently other than sneak in get some free money with her music recommendation. But given how hard it was to lynch MariaR in both Furret v2 and TvA I am going to save my breath if that is scum and just ask that someone be intelligent and use their investigation on her. Her comments towards Alisae at least look like scumhunting though.

Looking at Pine's vote on me, it looks eerily similar to his play in Furret v2 where he did not really comment on things and did not scumhunt. That said I am also concerned about PenguinPower because he seems less happy go lucky and from my couple of games with PP!scum I think he is less happy go lucky as scum. Moreover, I would have fully expected PP to be on my wagon or any other larger wagon at this point in this game because he likes bandwagoning. Him sitting on Dunnstral for reasons I do not understand raise a lot of eyebrows to me.

Pink Ball ALSO looks different than Furret v2, but I can't tell if it is because I broke him that game or not. That said I do see some semblance of scumhunting in his iso so he isn't someone I want to pursue currently.

My town pool is {Bingle, Dunnstral, Reckoner, Lady Lambdadelta, Bulbazak, me}. I think Taly is probably town based off scumhunting, but I am not familiar enough with Taly to put him in the town core. If I can use the investigation to further narrow down my PoE I think we have a very real possibility of doing significant damage to the scumteam.

[gobbledygook]

Another reason why I respond with AtE when I do is because I think it is super annoying when people let perpetual lurkers get away with all game and then lynch people actually contributing to the game. Like... that's just cruel. Especially when the person producing content has proven to be able to make themselves obvtown and do serious damage to scumteams and the lurkers... do not.

But that's just me. I would lynch a lurker day 1 always after discussion on other consideration. Seems more fair and equitable.

[gobbledygook]

3. I am not sure I understand what you mean by half measures on masturbation? I think it is related to the above points, but I would need clarification for futher comment on my end.

The optimal use of masturbation is ordered. The pressure on individuals to masturbate is a half measure, and inherently antitown. Ideally, we would have had 0 masturbations until we decided to masturbate in a chosen order. Posts like "Ali, masturbate please" reduce the efficacy of the masturbation because we don't want to let scummy players masturbate early, and are thus scummy, especially when you are supporting the use of Reck.

Also, I forgot to mention it but the scumread on Pine is :/ and you never actually explained how that wasn't policy.

Why are you townreading LLD? She's done nothing particularly town here AFAICT.

Fine. We will not all masturbate today. I will follow you down this path.

1. Have you actually even read Pine's iso? Like seriously, Bingle. Have you actually read it? Pine has not yet scumhunted in this game. He has not sorted or attempted to sort anyone. Look at his votes. He has three of them. 1 on Mastina. 1 on Bulbazak. 1 on me.

Look at the posts surrounding those votes.

For mastina, he is voting it because he does not believe the claim and thinks it is some sort of serial killer. He refuses to masturbate. If he truly thought Mastina was a serial killer, masturbating would have no side effect on him because then when she DIDN'T LEAVE THE GAME he could just lynch her. His vote on Mastina is such an easy vote for scum to make.

For the Bulbazak vote, he votes him because "Bulba looks like a solid vote right now". That is literally it. He didn't even try to sort Bulbazak ONCE in his entire iso. Control F Bulbazak. He never mentioned him before the vote, answer Taly's question of why he was voting Bulbazak with "well mastina isn't getting lynched and the fact that he is pushing bad logic reads", and then talks with Bulbazak as if he doesn't scumread him.

For my vote, he quotes someone else voting me, addresses YOU while voting me, and votes me. Then he goes on to talk about how Reck could still be a serial killer which makes absolutely no sense for the numerous reasons I have already discussed in this thread.

So, please, tell me, Bingle. How do you feel comfortable voting with Pine?

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LLD is going against consensus and actually stating reads on people even if I do not totally agree with those reads. That is already 100% more than what Pine has done.

Also, Pine checked in today, didn't comment on anything remotely resembling scumhunting. He was just making sure you were in your pocket, and you happily confirmed that for him.

Like really Bingle. You're going to tell me that I am not solving?

Really?

[gobbledygook]

What is your read on me Ali?

[gobbledygook]

Yes you certainly did nightkill me

[gobbledygook]

I was going to duel you but then IdiotChan stole that.
You can lead a horse to water but can’t make it drink mean something to you Ali? That town was made of pure idiots.

[gobbledygook]

I’m not going to squabble about this. You got your scum win. I called your team day 1. You fear nightkilled me N1. Everyone did what they were supposed to do to get their pride satisfied. Ok moving on. Do you have any real reads?

[gobbledygook]

I’m not going to squabble about this. You got your scum win. I called your team day 1. You fear nightkilled me N1. Everyone did what they were supposed to do to get their pride satisfied. Ok moving on. Do you have any real reads?

no

Alright. Vote pine or Ari.

[gobbledygook]

Relaaaax turkey, im just pushin ur buttons a little bit. just a tiny bit.

I’m not bothered by what you’ve said. I know you said the completely eliminated part to rile me. it’s what I expect from you after observing you. But anyway you should vote pine or Ari. Whichever strikes your fancy. Pine because you like revenge or Ari bevause you hate emojis.

[gobbledygook]

Apparently Bingle can suicide so he’s self resolving

[gobbledygook]

For mastina, he is voting it because he does not believe the claim and thinks it is some sort of serial killer. He refuses to masturbate. If he truly thought Mastina was a serial killer, masturbating would have no side effect on him because then when she DIDN'T LEAVE THE GAME he could just lynch her. His vote on Mastina is such an easy vote for scum to make.

He thinks reckslot wins when all non masturbating players are dead, ending the game. I don't think that that thought process is out of line from town Pine. I don't think you think that thought process is out of line from town Pine. If you were advocating it as a policy lynch based on his lurking or as a policy lynch based on his celibacy, that'd be another matter. But you're arguing his lynch as a scumread.

Pine hasn't done anything scum indicative for Pine, and you know that. At worst, his anti masturbation thing is NAI. At best, it's actually town indicative paranoia.

I am scumreading him for his lack of legitimate scumhunting. I have explained that by asking you to look at his votes which show that he is not scumhunting. Why did you latch on to the fact I think his paranoia around Reck/Mastina is bs?

[gobbledygook]

Bingle, if you're town, please reevaluate how you play this game. Thank you. Good night.

[gobbledygook]

Because I don't think the lack of scumhunting from him is AI, nor do I think you think it's AI. I think you're trying to lead a policy lynch while saying it's a scum lynch, which is scummy.

It's STILL not that you want Pine lynched, it's that you're trying to say he's probably scum for things that are just Pine. And I don't think town you would do that here.

But before you do, please explain to me what is alignment indicative for Pine then because right now you're saying nothing Pine does is alignment indicative.

[gobbledygook]

Because people think it will either end the game or that it’s better off for later in the game.

[gobbledygook]

I wonder what Deathsticks do

[gobbledygook]

Silly penguin you only get those things from juuls!
Why Ari?

[gobbledygook]

Who do you townread right now, Bingle?

[gobbledygook]

He's so hot right now

Qft

[gobbledygook]

LLD, are you saying Bingle is scum? I thought Gamma was pretty town. I also think Bingle likes to play contrarian.

[gobbledygook]

If there is no agreed upon order, how I can be getting people to go out of order?

[gobbledygook]

It was a smart Alec question, Bingle.

[gobbledygook]

Bingle, what would a me!town flip do to your approach to your game?

[gobbledygook]

@Alisae:

if i knew for sure bulba was town then pine is def scum tho

On the second, why?

Ali, answer this

[gobbledygook]

Time for you to masturbate Pine

Why Pine? Who would you like to use the Reck power to check?

[gobbledygook]

loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool

[gobbledygook]

I get dookied on so hard and then everyone comes around once PP advocates for it? ok

[gobbledygook]

lol?

[gobbledygook]

You want to tell me where PP had a principled debate about the plan and also was not reckless?

[gobbledygook]

You want to shove some stuffing up your ass and be Thanksgiving dinner? PP was part of the first wave who didn't take it seriously and acquiesced, you were after the serious debate started and did it in your first post after your predecessor resisted, then ragequit.

That transparently looks like Enter was getting pressure from scumbuddies not to take the risk, quit, and then you said "okay" when instructed to do it.

How does any of that influence YOU relenting and doing it? Anything to fit that narrative, eh?

[gobbledygook]

It doesn't have any bearing on my decision, as nothing you've said has influenced me. You asked how it was different, and I gave you a coherent, straightforward response which you then pivoted into a different question.

I asked you how it was different that PP got you to relent, but I didn't.
You said it was after principled discussion, not recklessness.
I asked you where PP had principled discussion (he didn't). I asked you where PP was NOT reckless (he was reckless).
You then state that nothing I have said influenced your decision to do it, yet I have been the biggest proponent of doing this plan.

You saw your way out and you took it so you wouldn't be the last one and get confirmed scum.

[gobbledygook]

So, really, what discussion did change your mind that wasn't something I said?

[gobbledygook]

I wonder what Bingle is going to say when he gets here.
How everyone wanted to do this plan after I conceded and stopped pushing it.

[gobbledygook]

You can go, MariaR. Pretty sure LLD is town anyway

[gobbledygook]

I did forget I read that. I just wanted MariaR to go cause I already townread both her and lld

[gobbledygook]

lld you may masturbate whenever

[gobbledygook]

VOTE: MariaR

[gobbledygook]

I don't think anyone was counting on Pine randomly having a change of heart. That threw everything in the air and made Reck leaving today instead of tomorrow more likely. In that case, you probably wouldn't have gone last, as Bingle was hard pushing for Pine to be one of the last to claim.

Also, weren't you just saying that LLD was a scum read?

Yes, yes I was and now she's conf town. What else am I exactly supposed to say here? Also Pine isn't the issue, no one is the issue. If you're scum here and you see someone saying 'Hey guys all town need to do this' scum don't take that chance and they fully support it if it becomes a thing, not wait until the last 2 people. That's just idiotic and there's no way scum me would do that, or any scum for that matter.

If scum is given this option {vote out of order and “scum claim,” or vote in order and become confirmed scum} you don’t know the scum would take the first option? The first option isn’t a mechanical guilty and they can talk their way out of it. The latter is a mechanical guilty that cannot be talked out of.

[gobbledygook]

I don’t know

What is your read on Pine, MariaR?

[gobbledygook]

Do I need to get into the part where I was post restricted and could've kept going but chose to ya know...speak?

Didn’t you say someone else did that for you?

[gobbledygook]

I mean I don’t know why scum would be in that situation, it’s possible because you were away for much of the game. The same thing could be said about why you didn’t blow your money in furret v2 despite getting wagoned heavily near end of day.

I’m not sure why you’re scumreading LLD when she’s playing like you’ve played today. Also, you getting conftown over LLD doesn’t mean you can’t lynch LLD. I think you’re using an earlier misstep of being in this non-masturbator pool as reason to not scum read you.

[gobbledygook]

As for why you specifically being in the non masturbator pool, it could be just because of your PR and by the time you were freed to talk, the game had evolved into such a way where you couldn’t just willy nilly do it.

[gobbledygook]

I thought your PR was you could only quote people and post that Peyote thing? I don’t think quoting someone masturbating would allow you to join.

[gobbledygook]

So who do you scumread now that LLD is conftown?

[gobbledygook]

And before you say

'How do we know you were able to masturbate post restricted' Think about it from a game sense. Sure this is a bastard game but Gin wouldn't make it so I would be outted day 1. Because if I wasn't able to masturbate before my thing was up and I am scum like you are assuming I would be automatically outted. Remember I am only able to speak due to someone else action.

I was actually thinking this could be the case since you essentially get a free kill/lynch when Reck leaves. And you are not necessarily outted automatically. Plenty of things can happen that don’t end with you getting lynched as scum with a PR. Like exactly what has transpired today.

I just don’t see town MariaR going out of order knowing she gets conftown. That doesn’t make sense to me. As someone like you, I would want to become conftown because it gives you legitimacy.

[gobbledygook]

VOTE: Ari

[gobbledygook]

PB let’s beat up Ari he’s maf

[gobbledygook]

Oh I meant something different

[gobbledygook]

PB let’s beat off Ari he’s maf

I fixed it

[gobbledygook]

[gobbledygook]

it also wont end the day so go ahead and yank it and watch me leave the have fun fisting the entire scumteam as conftown lld

Megusta.jpg

[gobbledygook]

Hey look it’s 2009

[gobbledygook]

Reck, come tell me if masturbating will end the game with you as the only winner.

if it does, I will do it, I swear.

it will not, i just leave the game

congrats on being confirmed town, use it well

second question. Can you win post mortem? There is no reason for scum to shoot you, but imagine they did for some strange reason, if I masaturbate then, are you a-ok?

Huh? Why would he be dead. He exits the game

Why don’t you like Ari for scum?

[gobbledygook]

It’s ok I’m gonna buy the vig to kill her tonight

[gobbledygook]

Reck can you give me your money

[gobbledygook]

I agree with you 100% but I also do not want to 1v1 mariar scum again. I am hoping your case will encourage others to vote her while I explore other options in an open relationship

[gobbledygook]

@LLD I'll give you my money to masturbate today

Hello this is the fbi, I mean I’m nobody special just carry on

[gobbledygook]

Alright. Let’s wrap it up.
See ya reck. Ur beautiful. Don’t do it on my grave

VOTE: MariaR

Turkey wants that vig

[gobbledygook]

LLD about to cuck Reck. I know I’m watching

[gobbledygook]

Let’s kill this. It has LLD stamp of approval

VOTE: Pine

[gobbledygook]

Sure gobble let's stall even more the wagons so I die.

Seriously are we letting the turkey live????

Oh yeah that’s true. I apologize I forgot that was a thing

VOTE: MariaR

[gobbledygook]

bye Reck

VOTE: Ari

[gobbledygook]

He’s a god damn jester isn’t he

[gobbledygook]

Purge the witch!

VOTE: Reck

[gobbledygook]

Bye

Oh. Did I just activate a trap

[gobbledygook]

Why the hell would Mastina do that.

[gobbledygook]

VOTE: Pine

[gobbledygook]

What

[gobbledygook]

If you have enough money, PM Ginngie.

Bingle, why did you announce that? People are going to make a run on the BP and doctor abilities in the shop.
Also I don’t think I should die because I’m pretty sure my earlier PoE is correct unless LLD or you is scum.

[gobbledygook]

My town pool is {Bingle, Dunnstral, Reckoner, Lady Lambdadelta, Bulbazak, me}. I think Taly is probably town based off scumhunting, but I am not familiar enough with Taly to put him in the town core. If I can use the investigation to further narrow down my PoE I think we have a very real possibility of doing significant damage to the scumteam.

This is gobbles supposed PoE post, afaict.

Bingle, Dunnstral, and bulbazak are all dead or unsavable. Reckoner provably fake claimed.

So the PoE we should keep him around for is... a townread on LLD.

Who do you want to lynch today?

[gobbledygook]

Bingle, you should want to save me because unless Reck and LLD are both scum my POE has been pretty damn good. I think Taly is town. I thought MariaR was town and so far the rest of my POE is probably true.

That would mean I would want to bus BOTH of my scum buddies or at least make it so people would be more likely to target them almost immediately after I entered the game. Is that something scum do? Also, we could have dealt with Reck lying yesterday but noooo so many people wanted to fight that.

[gobbledygook]

Worth noting: LLD is not conftown and has significant scum equity right now. Reck is not town. Presumably scum shot both of Dunn and bulb using the vig that was available yesterday.

What do you mean significant scum equity for LLD? I get she isn’t town, but I don’t think what she did yesterday was scummy.

I think the Dunn and Bulba deaths point principally to Ari and a little bit to Pine.

If you poisoned me you’re a woat

[gobbledygook]

Dunn and Bulba both wanted Pine and Ari and had expressed support for their deaths.

I bought something yesterday so I have 1 dollar today.
MariaR also apparently bought something yesterday because she had no money at the time of her death. The mod explained this to me when I tried to buy the vig but didn’t have the money for it despite thinking I would.

———

Bingle, we do not have the same group. You were against LLD town reads yesterday and also are hardcore tunneling me + defending a very likely scum Pine. I think you also defended Ari yesterday too but I can’t remember.

The fact that I have, in your opinion, the same reads as you and coming in after you and developing those reads, if you were town, I would hope you realize that I am sharing the same thought process as you and that would make me more likely town. Also, if we do have the same reads and they are as accurate as you think, but that I am scum, me coming and pushing the game into a game state that ends with two of my teammates dead does not make much sense.

[gobbledygook]

Ok Bingle. I’ll just sheep you. Waiting for the carry, ty

UNVOTE:

When you vote someone I’ll vote them! Even if it’s me!

[gobbledygook]

You will realize that I have in fact been doing that middle ground by trying to get Pine and Ari lynched the last two game days, but you’ve just been tunneling me the entire time and trying to counter every thing I say without really scumhunting yourself, so I’m making you put your money where your mouth is.

[gobbledygook]

I think we can put PP in the town core. Still not much to go of with PB or Alisae.

[gobbledygook]

I would really like to kill Ari because he is not scumhunting at all and it is quite apparent if you compare this game to TM2020.

[gobbledygook]

Alternatively, you could mail me an offer at:

5 Masonry Lane
Tenochtitlan
Planet Earth

Please, I really need this. I know

certain

people here (not looking at anyone in particular, gobbledygook) have doller(s) in their possession.

You’re not in my neighborhood I can’t give you any dollars plus I think Bingle poisoned me so it would be a waste to Target me

[gobbledygook]

Ari buying the desp is a scum claim imo

[gobbledygook]

1. I was asked to, and I did it without really thinking tbh. How is it a scumclaim?

2. Am I poisoned? I hope not. If I am lemme know and I'll use it but it is tactically unsound.

3. Like Jingle remember how I needed to live to D2 last time for it to be useful? Well similar but D3.

1. So you did it without really thinking but now you need to live to Day 3 to make the most use of it? You sure you didn’t think about it?
2. If you are poisoned or are not poisoned, you should use it today unless you think you’re gonna be around tomorrow? Why would you think that?
3. There might not be a tomorrow. At any rate, why would you need to use it tomorrow?

[gobbledygook]

Actually I could kill PP now that I think about it

[gobbledygook]

The scum pt? Nah they said I should post that here

[gobbledygook]

Ari, your description of the person to kill is either me, Reck, or Titus at this point. I do not think anyone other than Reck ends with you living

[gobbledygook]

Is it really just Ari PP Pine?

[gobbledygook]

I’m not sure about Hoctac. I thought Hoctac was Taly’s replacement but that’s Titus. I think Titus is town based off that?

Pedit: Simple. He uses it on Pine or he gets lynched. I wish the store told you what was bought from phase to phase. I can’t remember if the ninja was bought last night.

[gobbledygook]

PP what does your avatar mean now

[gobbledygook]

Yo Bingle you done defending obvscum day 1 or

[gobbledygook]

lol
Please do so. Free me from the mediocrity of this aristocracy

[gobbledygook]

VOTE: PenguinPower

[gobbledygook]

lol
Please do so. Free me from the mediocrity of this aristocracy

It's pronounced Aristophanes thank you very much!

I thought it was pronounced Mr. Stophanes.

Gobbles and PP are poisoned, and I'm waiting to see if Titus's reck vote actually counts because the OP shows him as alive.

Nice. You just killed the doctor.

[gobbledygook]

I bought the tracker yesterday and tracked Pine nowhere last night.

[gobbledygook]

So that at least means Pine did not recruit someone and likely used his marketplace ability.
This is not a good look for Bingle.

[gobbledygook]

You’re right titus. It was a bad hot take. I am just more miffed that Bingle once again obstructed a day 1 scum lynch, tunneled me, and now has killed me as a doctor.

Woat status for real for real

[gobbledygook]

Yeah... bulb was gonna vig you last night but someone sniped the vigshot and approximately 0% of the people townread you. Also, Doctor is one of the market powers and I straight up don’t believe pine holstered a mafia recruit.

Good job catching pine on what I still believe is two pieces of NAI information yesterday, though.

You can ask if Doctor was purchased yesterday. I don't it was, but I am not sure. It is also impossible for me to have bought both the tracker and the doctor though.

Also just because Bulba had a terrible read on me does not justify your terrible read on me either.

Pine's posts were not "NAI"
If you ACTUALLY read his opinions on Reck's role you would see that he was making crap up. His opinions about Reck's role straight up made no sense at all. Then, when PP was like "Pine do this" he was like "ok". YEAH. That's totally a town mindset. Then when I asked him what changed he said there was discourse about it. And like... our neighborhood pt was dead about it. And the only people talking about it up to that point that were not me, were saying that WE SHOULDN'T go through with the plan.

If MariaR hadn't done what she did Pine was dead as hell yesterday.

Who should I vig?

Titus, wanna do some vca?

You should vig Ari.

[gobbledygook]

I keep going back and forth between wanting to kill Ari despite the desperado and not wanting to kill Ari because he had the desperado... I dunno.
Ari's Day 1 is so different from his day 1 in TM and he still isn't scumhunting. I feel like he would be trapped to buy the desperado.

[gobbledygook]

When the list of people with a terrible read on you is (the playerlist) maybe consider checking a mirror.

I don’t think the entire playerlist called me scum? MariaR and Dunn both called me town.
Bulba’s read was from Enter’s play and so was yours.

[gobbledygook]

I protected LLD. Wasn’t trying to get fancy with the protections like I did in Furret v2. I’m not going to get fancy here. I will be protecting LLD.

[gobbledygook]

LLD also called me town too so like your playerlist comment really is wrong but I think that’s because all this vig power has gone straight to your head

[gobbledygook]

Titus how is Ari confirmed town

[gobbledygook]

If someone town has the money they need to buy the doctor right now.

[gobbledygook]

Actually, enough people have bought stuff already it probably doesn’t matter.

My role is not unlimited, I am X-shot. I can use two of my doctor shots to save someone from “drug related” side effects. I can’t act on myself. I’m not sure if the market doctor can do this. I imagine not since it is only 1 shot. I could have used the doctor on a different poisoned victim. I will not be using it on PP.

[gobbledygook]

Someone bought the strong arm by the way.

[gobbledygook]

And the cop.

[gobbledygook]

What does? That those abilities were purchased? I think that one of LLD/Hoc is dying and it doesn’t matter if we protect them which sucks. Probably Hoc dying now that I think about it.

[gobbledygook]

VOTE: Pinj Ball

C’mon Pure Boi. Time for you to go out to pasture

[gobbledygook]

PB D:
I said you were town in Furretv2!

I would Vig Ari

[gobbledygook]

Alright who are the scum

[gobbledygook]

Also, my play this game:

[gobbledygook]

Uh Bingle

[gobbledygook]

Pink Ball still alive?

[gobbledygook]

Whoever bought the strongman is now conftown lol.

Gobble, why did you heal LLD over H?

Huh?

[gobbledygook]

Pink Ball still alive?

Of course I am

Uh wat

[gobbledygook]

Bingle if PP is last scum I will hand over the greatest of all turkey card to you

[gobbledygook]

LOL. LLD screwed Titus

I didn’t heal LLD actually. I healed Hoctac

I was a little sketched out from Reck saying he was scum and 3P and felt that if he was scum LLD had weird interactions. Hoctac also was more useful because he had a masonizer and could confirm something

[gobbledygook]

Yeah I just wanted to see if she had role info and I was trying to catch her in a lie if she was

[gobbledygook]

Maybe! As a last shot distancing but now that I think about it I don’t think LLD does that because she wasn’t expecting to die

[gobbledygook]

It’s ok on my phone cause I super zoom in but god damn is that Pr annoying lmao

[gobbledygook]

PB did you kill LLD?

[gobbledygook]

Oh mother fucker.

I misread my role PM.

This sounds fake

[gobbledygook]

We need people to fill claim

[gobbledygook]

Who brought the strongman and who bought the eavesdropper

[gobbledygook]

People should claim who they are sending money to

I have 1 dollar to contribute

[gobbledygook]

Not gonna send until get another person to vote form to send to Hoctac

[gobbledygook]

Ok gonna send to tits

[gobbledygook]

Bingle your stuff go through if you’re dead?

PP what’s your role

I am now out of doctor shots

[gobbledygook]

Yay! Ginngie is alive!

[gobbledygook]

Bingle, I thought you said you were going to die last night? Why didn’t you die?

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Bingle why and how do you die tonight?

Hoctac I thought you had enough money for Doctor?

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Ginnie just messaged me and apparently I have 4 dollars now?,#*% Richest Hoctac alive.

I bought a Strongman and a Death Stick. I hope that's okay!

holy cluck. Is hoctac scum?

Titus can you confirm with Ginngie that you were specifically masonized and not neighborized?

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Bingle doesn’t seem like the type to misread his role pm...

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Bingle why did you buy a BP vest?

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VOTE: Pink Ball

He says he is unlynchable but this allows us to test that and have the Bingle mechanics go through. I am content letting Titus + Hoctac self protect and carry us

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Did town even have a chance to win this game?