Jigsaw's Revenge - Game Over

[iDanyboy]

VOTE: Almost50
Bandwagon go.

[iDanyboy]

Hi MT.

[iDanyboy]

Has anyone in this game played with Morning Tweet before? I'm not really liking the vibes I'm getting from her, but I don't if that's normal.

Post #165 is a clear attempt at budding someone that appears to be a town leader going into the game, but her posts become most problematic when you get to Post #174.

"But what if it's

, like,

one of those doors"

When speaking out loud, people naturally add in filled words such as "like" or "um" to fill space because they are uncomfortable with silence while they are thinking. Making a post with the word "like" as Morning Tweet did here is not natural, it's a deliberate decision. The only possible motivation I can imagine for that decision is to appear more trustworthy/relateable. There's no reason for town to make that decision and for that reason, I VOTE: Morning Tweet.

I think you're reaching here, I used to type like that aswell and the only reason I stopped is because it doesn't make sense most of the time.

[iDanyboy]

I believe scum's fake claims are linked with there PT, so if it get's to late game and some one claims a flavor and that person should be in your respective hood they are probably scum.

[iDanyboy]

@abr: not sure if you missed what my issue was. If there is no way to know who has access to the neighborhood, how do you know if every player posted is in the pt or not.

My post was a response to this post.

[iDanyboy]

Lets say you are in the PT flavored gorillas, and some one claims orangutan and they haven't posted in your PT, then they are scum. This way scum are punished for not posting in there PT.

[iDanyboy]

I guess I can actually see the comment possibly making sense from a town flavored character in a flavored hood. if danyBoy can confirm that that's what he is then I guess that solves like 90% of my issues with his post, maybe? though there is still a questionable assumption there that the scum in PTs have a fakeclaim that is also flavor linked to their PT. What if they had an entirely separate fakeclaim?

I am indeed in a flavoured PT, and if someone claimed a role that didn’t match the PT’s one then they would get lynched straight away. Say you’re in the Cartoon character hoods and someone on it claims to be Walter White they are probably scum.
I will post more later on tonight, I’ve been busy with work the last few days so I could only get a quick read.
Something I did see though is EJ refusing to say if she is in a hood and then in the next post say’s she isn’t in one.
VOTE: EJ

[iDanyboy]

I have switched my read on ElsaJay and think she is town, I'm scum reading BM/Albert then just above null towards scum is Momo,pisskop and farside. I'll VOTE: BattleMage because his got more votes than Albert so far.

[iDanyboy]

I have switched my read on ElsaJay and think she is town, I'm scum reading BM/Albert then just above null towards scum is Momo,pisskop and farside. I'll VOTE: BattleMage because his got more votes than Albert so far.

Why did you switch your reads on Elsa?

I only voted her because I found Post 448 and Post 465 strange. Why say you're not going to answer the question then a few posts later she answers the question. The reason I town read her now is because of her response Hectic.

[iDanyboy]

@Danny: Do you think a response from Elsa about her life and roll is really alignment indicative, if so why? Or tell me exactly why her response came off town.

I do think it leans her to town and someone has posted that she prefers scum so just a small town read.

The longer Pine dodges this game while posting anywhere but here the more sure I am he's scum.

I played a game with him recently where he did just that, he was lynched and turned out to be town.

I think ABR pushing Vecna but never voting him is scummy and would like to know if anyone agrees or disagrees. Its the strongest read I have so would like to get some discussion on it.

This is my first game out of New York and I'm not used to playing with so many people so I'm finding it more difficult to get reads.

[iDanyboy]

Removed ongoing game reference.

[iDanyboy]

VOTE: Hectic
Not a bad wagon.

[iDanyboy]

these were some of the (admittedly few) reads given by iDanyboy prior to his vote on Hectic. At the time of voting Hectic, it was being championed by ABR, who danyBoy previously called his strongest scumread, and momo, who Danyboy called 'just above null towards scum', and davesaz who iDanyboy hasn't commented on at all. Why is this 'not a bad wagon' in that case? What caused him to re-evaluate so massively on ABR, and why was this not indicated to the thread?.

I don't think about who I am voting with unless I have a a strong reason to believe they are guilty, plus with a game of this size I don't have a strong scum read and is hard to keep track of all the players. I found ABR's avoidance of the Vecna post weird but I also found Hectic's posting to be scummy and I wanted to get a wagon going that I agree with, and no one was voting ABR.

[iDanyboy]

I don't have much of an opinion of him, He only has one post I didn't like but I prefer the Hectic wagon.

[iDanyboy]

He has ~70 posts and he hasn't pushed anything.

[iDanyboy]

That's now not when I voted.

[iDanyboy]

I don't think it's a good push, it makes him a but more scummier as I disagree with most of his points and that fact that he could of made this push before he got a few votes on him is on my mind.

[iDanyboy]

Yes Danyboy, why are you following the guy you CLAIM to suspect most, on his wagon of choice, rather than somebody you love and trust like me?

ABR's been on a bunch of wagons that I haven't liked, I like his push now so I voted with him.

[iDanyboy]

I don't know what to say now.

[iDanyboy]

ABR and BM have very similar posting styles so I realy don't get this hate. BM is playing the same as he did in day 1 and he loved him there.

VOTE: ABR

[iDanyboy]

I think BM’s case on ABR is good. Now him trying to get any lynch through doesn’t help that. I don’t for what possible reason he is getting so angry at BM. Him not addressing BM’s case and just attacking him instead of the argument. I think BM and ABR have very similar play styles and to see ABR get so angry at a miss lynch doesn’t add up. You will miss lynch as town and I’m sure ABR has so why is he so mad at BM for?

[iDanyboy]

That’s only one of his points, he has other points that make sense if you ignore set up speculation, and it doesn’t explain ABR’s reaction either.

[iDanyboy]

I can see that the day has resolved around me bring the priority lynch after ABR and then Gamma after me so I feel like it's a good time to claim. My name is Detective Matt Gibson and I work for internal affairs. I have the same abilities as Hectic so I can find out if some one is one of Jigsaws acolytes but I can only investigate those who are within my hood. On night 1 I investigated farside and night 2 I investigated Gamma Emerald, both of them turned up as (Jigsaws Chosen or Jigsaw).

[iDanyboy]

The hood has barely been used and I only had a few posts since day 1.

[iDanyboy]

Because I didn’t have any read on him and didn’t think he would be night killed same for Gamma.

[iDanyboy]

I haven’t asked for any key so a strange thing to say, and you’ve never played a game with me so you don’t know what I do or don’t prefer.

[iDanyboy]

Because I didn’t have any read on him and didn’t think he would be night killed same for Gamma.

Why didn't you have any reaction to Hectic's claim?

I wasn’t sure about it and didn’t want to make a situation where there can’t be two cops and one must be lying.

[iDanyboy]

cop + cop + IC + IC = is too town-sided and can easily resolve itself for town after a couple days through dumb luck.

Someone is lying about their "innocents".

Jigsaw is a known godfather the way the roles are set up, so they are not true inno’s until Jigsaw is taken down.

[iDanyboy]

I can’t convince you then. I don’t think I would make a fake cop play as scum.

[iDanyboy]

And I would of just waited it out and hope you get lynched if I was playing the same as that game.

[iDanyboy]

That was the vote to win the game, I was just messing with town then.

[iDanyboy]

My name is Detective Matt Gibson and I work for internal affairs.

I'm in the detective hood, so as I'm working for internal affairs there job is to investigate cops.

[iDanyboy]

This game is confirmed Role Madness, there are no Vanilla Townies or Mafia Goons.

Has this been addressed, because I don’t see how a neighbour is a PR in a role madness game.