Jigsaw's Revenge - Game Over

Titus · Post Post #3393 (isolation #0) » Tue May 19, 2020 3:56 am

Hey, I'd like to apologize for ABR's prior NAI boorish behavior. I'll do my brand of catching up shortly.

Titus · Post Post #3408 (isolation #1) » Tue May 19, 2020 8:08 am

In post 3406, Bingle wrote:
In post 3403, Eddie Cane wrote:I actually believe its pretty likely town has already lost this game even if we hit scum today, which has sapped my desire to care.
I think we just have to assume that we haven't and move on from there.

On the plus side, we're pretty close to a 50/50 on guessing scum, so maybe we just need 4 consecutive coin flips.

You do realize the VCA queen has entered right. We get one coin flip right, our odds go up exponentially.

Titus · Post Post #3410 (isolation #2) » Tue May 19, 2020 8:13 am

Through 1.6 I suspect Bingle and BM.

Titus · Post Post #3412 (isolation #3) » Tue May 19, 2020 8:17 am

1.12 looks really bad for Bingle

Titus · Post Post #3414 (isolation #4) » Tue May 19, 2020 8:18 am

Firebringer is a decent lynch based on 1.13

Titus · Post Post #3415 (isolation #5) » Tue May 19, 2020 8:26 am

Morning Tweet is likely town 3.1
VaultDweller is likely scum

Titus · Post Post #3417 (isolation #6) » Tue May 19, 2020 8:28 am

Why did davesaz be a flash wagon in 3.5 that vanished as almost solid town

Titus · Post Post #3418 (isolation #7) » Tue May 19, 2020 8:28 am

In post 3416, Morning Tweet wrote:Pedit: Titus, Vault is an innocent child

Thanks for the correction.

Titus · Post Post #3419 (isolation #8) » Tue May 19, 2020 8:30 am

Pisskop and BM need scrutiny.

Titus · Post Post #3420 (isolation #9) » Tue May 19, 2020 8:31 am

Morning, what do you think of my suspect pool just eyeballing the VCs?

Titus · Post Post #3422 (isolation #10) » Tue May 19, 2020 8:34 am

In post 3421, Morning Tweet wrote:
In post 3417, Titus wrote:Why did davesaz be a flash wagon in 3.5 that vanished as almost solid town
We PoEd dave as scum. we got some votes

and then dave was all like "You fools! I've been softing godfather cop this whole time by being silent! never lynch a cop claim!"

and that worked and we moved on

I think that's the one anyway

Doesn't Drixx's flip suggest a deathy like combination though?

Titus · Post Post #3425 (isolation #11) » Tue May 19, 2020 8:36 am

In post 3423, Bingle wrote:I mean... He also said that he may or may not be able to clear Drixx on being the godfather and then never brought it up again and didn't actually claim, but yeah, that's the rough gist of what happened.

Why is a Jingle cop a claim worth extremely protecting? Second, where are his results?

Titus · Post Post #3428 (isolation #12) » Tue May 19, 2020 8:38 am

In post 3426, Morning Tweet wrote:
In post 3423, Bingle wrote:I mean... He also said that he may or may not be able to clear Drixx on being the godfather and then never brought it up again and didn't actually claim, but yeah, that's the rough gist of what happened.
lol i forgot that part. I am very regretful Drixx was who we chose. I wonder if I could have swapped it if I had tried

Who was Drixx's result?

Titus · Post Post #3433 (isolation #13) » Tue May 19, 2020 8:42 am

In post 3427, Bingle wrote:Farside town N1, GE (Ircher) town N2.

I was only two shot and didn't really fight my lynch yesterday. Didn't claim the two shot in the hopes of being put in a trap.

Bingle, what do you have to say about my suspicion of you RE: idanyboy?

Titus · Post Post #3436 (isolation #14) » Tue May 19, 2020 8:44 am

Davesaz, who have you checked?

Titus · Post Post #3440 (isolation #15) » Tue May 19, 2020 8:46 am

VOTE: Firebringer

I feel more comfortable with this.

Titus · Post Post #3443 (isolation #16) » Tue May 19, 2020 8:47 am

In post 3438, Bingle wrote:Everyone and their mother suspects my slot. The page I replaced in was literally 6 people saying "let's not lynch him because claim but he's still probably scum."

I'm reserving judgment on you until you're all the way caught up, but I think it likely that there was only one scum in the small hood based on very basic setup spec.

I honestly haven't looked hard at my slot's vote history, but from the way people talk about it I can believe that it's scummy.

No one seems to suspect your slot that's alive.

Titus · Post Post #3447 (isolation #17) » Tue May 19, 2020 8:49 am

In post 3444, Battle Mage wrote:
In post 3440, Titus wrote:VOTE: Firebringer

I feel more comfortable with this.
given the situation, this makes me more comfortable with a Titus-BBmolla pair, and Firebringer just being town, of the early wagonners.

Hmm, what do you have to say about my VCA. Wildly accurate or inaccurate?

Titus · Post Post #3449 (isolation #18) » Tue May 19, 2020 8:50 am

What are your thoughts on Firebringer specifically BM?

Titus · Post Post #3451 (isolation #19) » Tue May 19, 2020 8:52 am

In post 3448, Eddie Cane wrote:
In post 3441, Battle Mage wrote:Also worth noting I was at L-3 for quite a while without being lynched. Which suggests at least 1 or 2 of Titus/BBmolla/Firebringer are scum (otherwise they could theoretically have hammered).
And ABR has been l-4 for a significant amount of time as well (with you and mod confirmed town voting). So there actually is most likely a difference between you and ABR, and I don't get MT/others' insistence that that isn't the case. Its been, like, 24+ hours, and I'm pretty sure everyone's been online.

@MT, Piss never voted Battle Mage I don't think. Just pushed there.

I think BM has a decent chance of being scum, but coordinating 4 or 5 votes for a quick hammer is hard.

Titus · Post Post #3462 (isolation #20) » Tue May 19, 2020 8:59 am

In post 3455, Battle Mage wrote:Did nobody else comment on the fact that ABR replaced out, rather than risk getting lynched? Not dissimilar to earlier in the game when he asked to replace out because he was under scrutiny. Pattern?

I didn't sub in specifically because I knew ABR was here. Let's just say ABR is a bully fmpov and takes it personally when he gets wagoned. He makes the game as toxic as possible. Hence why my first post was an apology but I haven't read the entire game.

Titus · Post Post #3467 (isolation #21) » Tue May 19, 2020 9:02 am

Yes, my analysis is largely my conclusions right now. I have an appointment in roughly 30 minutes and then I'll be out the rest of the day.

Titus · Post Post #3470 (isolation #22) » Tue May 19, 2020 9:04 am

In post 3466, Battle Mage wrote:
In post 3461, Morning Tweet wrote:
In post 3456, Battle Mage wrote:co-ordinating votes to quick hammer in LyLo as scum is incredibly easy - I literally just won a game as scum doing that.
did you coordinate 4 votes in a large theme game? That could go horribly wrong and wouldnt be that easy to set up
I mean, really, it was Titus who inexplicably referred to "4-5 votes". In reality, I was at -3, so it would only require a further 3 votes. And my game was only a small one, so we did it with 3 people. But it doesn't really matter - the principle is exactly the same, and it's something I expect every half decent scumteam to be agreeing well before LyLo.

I was basing it off the number of living scum, not the size of any given wagon. Quick hammering gets easier as the wagon size goes up.

Pedit: Hi Fire.

Titus · Post Post #3475 (isolation #23) » Tue May 19, 2020 9:05 am

In post 3469, Battle Mage wrote:
In post 3467, Titus wrote:Yes, my analysis is largely my conclusions right now. I have an appointment in roughly 30 minutes and then I'll be out the rest of the day.
I can't really blame you - it's a tough spot.

Look at my suspects though. Do you largely agree with my cursory work or disagree? Can you go suspect by suspect? Can you see why, even if you disagree, why I suspect some over others?

Titus · Post Post #3477 (isolation #24) » Tue May 19, 2020 9:07 am

In post 3476, Battle Mage wrote:
In post 3462, Titus wrote:
In post 3455, Battle Mage wrote:Did nobody else comment on the fact that ABR replaced out, rather than risk getting lynched? Not dissimilar to earlier in the game when he asked to replace out because he was under scrutiny. Pattern?
I didn't sub in specifically because I knew ABR was here. Let's just say ABR is a bully fmpov and takes it personally when he gets wagoned. He makes the game as toxic as possible. Hence why my first post was an apology but I haven't read the entire game.
It sounds like you've read enough of the game

I like you already <3

I just know ABR and saw the moderator posts as I read VCA to catch up.

Titus · Post Post #3481 (isolation #25) » Tue May 19, 2020 9:12 am

BM, how long have you had your current reads?

Titus · Post Post #3487 (isolation #26) » Tue May 19, 2020 9:17 am

In post 3486, Battle Mage wrote:
In post 3484, Bingle wrote:
In post 3481, Titus wrote:BM, how long have you had your current reads?
I think early D2? He hasn't meaningfully reevaluated since ABR became his top priority iirc.
I didn't even suspect ABR until Day 3. I think probably right to say I've been pretty consistent with my reads since then, apart from where claims etc have changed things. Although that is only 1 game-day.

The reason I ask this is because you have to ask yourself (if town), why am I alive in lylo? It's pretty obvious why my slot is alive.

Titus · Post Post #3493 (isolation #27) » Tue May 19, 2020 9:23 am

In post 3488, Battle Mage wrote:
In post 3449, Titus wrote:What are your thoughts on Firebringer specifically BM?
He's a great guy. Alignment hard to call - could be town or scum. Pretty low down the list of people I'd be lynching in the next couple days. It's not a conundrum to worry about today.

Can I see a realist from you?

Titus · Post Post #3501 (isolation #28) » Tue May 19, 2020 9:31 am

In post 3500, Battle Mage wrote:It's unlikely that both BM and ABR are town, given I was at L-3, and ABR was at L-4 at the same time for a long period, with 4 scum in the game.

Smh.

Titus · Post Post #3506 (isolation #29) » Tue May 19, 2020 9:47 am

Ok, Davesaz is probably scum.

Titus · Post Post #3512 (isolation #30) » Tue May 19, 2020 9:55 am

The thing is BM, I feel we were both left alive because scum wanted us to bicker and argue. ABR brings out the worst in people.