Jigsaw's Revenge - Game Over

[Elsa Jay]

Sup. Accidentally turned offmy phone's Sync function so,I didn't get the email that told me my role PM was there or that the game started. Was busy doing something elsa anyway, but I'm here now.

Let's play a game.

[Elsa Jay]

Hectic is Dr Fire Mario now. That sounds like it's gonna be in the Mario Kart Gacha game soon.

In other news, I decided 7 is a lucky number, and the person 7 spots below me is a guy named Drixx. So imma start there.

VOTE: Drixx

[Elsa Jay]

To Boon or not to Boon? Same pun and shiz.

[Elsa Jay]

Hectic is Dr Fire Mario now. That sounds like it's gonna be in the Mario Kart Gacha game soon.

In other news, I decided 7 is a lucky number, and the person 7 spots below me is a guy named Drixx. So imma start there.

VOTE: Drixx

Considering the post before that is my introduction, it is indeed my RVS. Serious Mode will be put on soon.
Did you read all 6 pages and decided to RVS or is this a placeholder while you catch up?

[Elsa Jay]

Fuck, my post got ruined, but you get what I mean.

Off to shop I go.

[Elsa Jay]

Considering the post before that is my introduction, it is indeed my RVS. Serious Mode will be put on soon.

Write out your detailed thoughts no later than tomorrow night, as you've unfortunately already drawn my attention.

I'm honored, Mister Rampage, for the attention.

Also ftr I admit I didn't read Drixx mentioning a hood but frankly it sounds decent to me.

Throwing out my 2 cents already, if your theory is right (which it isn't but okay) then the hoods would probably be used to allow a traitor to talk to their teammates otherwise if they kill the other person in said hood.

[Elsa Jay]

We're here playing Mafia while Cakez is holding a secondary Choose your own adventure story on the side. What a Mod.

[Elsa Jay]

But like, um, Momo, ah, that's very, uh, not cool of you, hmm.

[Elsa Jay]

Dave probably means a flavor of characters that are related or something to others.

For example, the Survivors of Saw 2 can have a PT together, or Saw V, ect.

[Elsa Jay]

Ah, I get it, PT in this case means PUBLIC Thread.

Good one Hectic.

[Elsa Jay]

Thanks Mario. Now tell me your deepest darkest secret or elsa you get cursed.

[Elsa Jay]

I almost wanna say a traitor is a given, but they could surprise us and have just seperated the teams into 2 instead.

4 main scum and a traitor or 3 scum team with a 2 scum team as backup. Or a hardball one that has all 5 together already?

[Elsa Jay]

Its not Multiball if it's the same alignment still. Trust me, I've played Boon games and talked with people like Almost.

If their wincon is "kill jigsaws's chosen" then they can be separated into 2 groups and still be the same team.

[Elsa Jay]

Then again I've played too many Boon games and think it's him or Almost running this game, so I'll assume the more common thing and say they're just together in general. Or the 4 plus traitor thing.

Unless you wanna argue about the rule wording making it also impossible for there to be a Traitor?

Fun times, setup spec in Large themes is alsos different.

[Elsa Jay]

Pisskop is the traitor.

Case closed.

[Elsa Jay]

Youre feeling really weird

So you vote people because their weird? Very rude.

[Elsa Jay]

Bro Momo let me talk to actual people I can debate with. I'll talk to you later.

And again, as long as all 5 scum had the same wincon I was going off the chance they could be separated based on the PT thing being brought up by Albert.

You guys just instantly wanted to turn me down. Of course I knew the ratio, but that doesn't mean we can't debate the way the scum are put together.

[Elsa Jay]

Still find it weird someone like Dave can overestimate my abilities, but yeah. I just wanted to keep that in everyone's mind, particularly since all the "Jigsaws" never really worked together perfectly, so having them seperate with the same goal made sense to me.

In other news:

VOTE: GuiltyLion so we can get off the Almost wagon. He'll solve himself later.

[Elsa Jay]

Because its Saw. If Hoffman isn't a Traitor or something, it'll be weird to me.

[Elsa Jay]

For the game of mafia and having them as a confirmed team, some liberties are taken. Duh.

Never seen the most recent one though. Wonder how it was. Heard it brought back Kramer.

[Elsa Jay]

Because he had 2 votes on him already, so I said have another?

[Elsa Jay]

Huh. Usually that's just a play style thing IME. I know others have said that same thing though. Actually maybe you said it to ke before.

[Elsa Jay]

If it's one giant ass hood then fair enough. Probably only 1 hood then.

Also, to be clear, make sure it's "the Mod and 7 players" not the backup Mods or Listmods just saying hi.

[Elsa Jay]

A50 is a little suspicious, mostly for a lack of playfulness that was also lacking in a game we were scum together.

I am a bit bored IRL (Lack of football games? Everyday feels exactly the same as any other??). There are also some players in this game that probably wouldn't enjoy me wreaking havoc all around (and some who would make use of it if they rolled scum too).

Q: Do you

really

want me to post more music/memes in a 21 players game?

If your bored you can do a psychoanalysis on me or someone elsa.

Fun times.

[Elsa Jay]

5 have claimed no PT, you're missing pisskop.

OK, so 2 within momo/EJ/Gamma/VD/Vecna/Blake.

@Vecna: Since you are here, are you in a hood? Hust a yes or no will suffice. Thank you.
@Gamma/Elsa: you too since you're both kind of on and off all the time. Just a declaration that you are indeed in a hood or are not is all I ask.

I will comment by saying I refuse to comment.

Also, Albert, anytime you quote a long post my finger disapproves and I have to do a super swipe. Sad times.

[Elsa Jay]

Your quoting long ass posts without spoiler tagging them so we don't have to read it every time. Sorry I accused you Albert.

@Almost: Consider my previous questions about the PTs and you'll know the answer already.

[Elsa Jay]

VOTE: Elsa Jay

Your ISO says you are a Traitor. That's ALL I got from it. You also said 7 was a lucky number and voted Drixx (who now says the hood is of 7 members) in the same post.

As I said, I will only be confident in your alignment when you flip, so excuse me while I go campaigning for your lynch today.

Because 7 IS a lucky number?

And no, I kept asking questions about the hood cuz I'm not in it. Sigh.

[Elsa Jay]

Why so many votes for me? I'm literally going out of my way to try and not be suspicious this time.

[Elsa Jay]

It is if they're naturally dramatic like I am

[Elsa Jay]

I'm never a good day 1 wagon Dave. I thought we went over thos before.

This is shite.

[Elsa Jay]

*sighs in French*

[Elsa Jay]

Oh that's harley before the weird New 52 Deadpool turnover. Pretty cool.

[Elsa Jay]

I don't like how instantaneous the wagon got on me. I would say scum had something to do with it, but with 7 people and 5 scum that seems obvious atleast 1 of them would be scum. Question is which one. I dunno.

Do you really gotta make my brain work so hard day 1? Hectic just doesn't trust me for some reason, but can I hear from the rest of you specifics about why you don't trust me? Not just "look at your ISO" either.

[Elsa Jay]

I play based on my mood and the playerbase, not on alignment. For example, I gave up in Team Mafia because it bore me to death when I realized the optimal solution in the open game, and I wasn't with many pals.

Here I get pushed by new interesting people, so while I use my dramatics to fill them out, I'm learning what to say and not say with these people. Adapting is fun.

[Elsa Jay]

Holding back on what you say sounds like a good way to look like scum when you're town. If you say whatever comes to mind, people will realise you're town because off meta when you do it in enough games I reckon.

Tell me about all of the weirdest thoughts you have right now that you're afraid of sharing. I'll grant you lynch immunity if it comes to it.

I gotta go to work and the sun fucking sucks. My role sucks. I'm sad now. See you in 2 hours.

[Elsa Jay]

If you're honest about your reaction here, you're just being emotional instead of strategic and rational.

I'm always emotional, but thanks for the encouragement.

[Elsa Jay]

It did suck though. Retail is a bitch at the moment. Particularly when your the only good store in town with panic buyers galore, and the regional manager is checking your store to make sure its spotless for a survey and shit.

My role does suck though. Don't like it.

[Elsa Jay]

That's pretty tame. I got yelled at once for saying someone was psycho but that's just my language. English evolved in weird ways.

Self censoring sucks.

[Elsa Jay]

Why so many votes for me? I'm literally going out of my way to try and not be suspicious this time.

Are you related to Bambi?

The one time I challenged Almost by being townie, and I triggered him from my form of townieness. More anti-town then my fake claims? Jeez.

Bambi Jay has been killed! They were a...

Evil Magical Disguise Lords of the Boonski’i

Welcome,

Bambi Jay

, you are

Viola

,

Odd-Night Follower Even-Night Voyeur

.

Disguise, I see thou art a wickedness

ii;ii Twelfth Night

Your group private thread is here.

Abilities:

• You are an

Odd-Night Follower

. On any Odd-night, you may target someone to learn what type of actions a player performed, but not who that player targeted.
• You are an

Even-Night Voyeur

. On any Even-night, you may target someone to learn what type of actions were performed on a player, but not who targeted them.

Win condition:

You win when all of the Bard’s Battalion have died, or nothing can prevent this from happening.

Game thread is here. Confirm by replying to this PM with your role name.

To be fair, I would've said that as town too. I say many things.

[Elsa Jay]

Something tells me Drixx wouldn't survive Jigsaw.

[Elsa Jay]

I dunno. Something tells me something like the Candle code trap. The one where your in a room filled with glass, a candle, and are covered in lighter fluid.

[Elsa Jay]

I can already tell Albert is gonna make this different. In a good way.

VOTE: Dannyboy

[Elsa Jay]

It's funny nor one person -other than EJ himself- commented on my referencing him saying almost the same thing in another game where he was scum. I get that scum don't want to deal with that one way or another (if he is scum it's best if they let it die, and if he is town then either town pushes through the mislynch or scum use it later to mislynch me). Now why did no TOWN player talk about that?

I talked about it and I'm town. Does that count?

[Elsa Jay]

"Monotone"? What does that mean farside?

[Elsa Jay]

That's how people were in the 50p game that got cancelled too. The bigger the hood the less people wanna use it instead of the main thread.

[Elsa Jay]

Hectic is gonna be the Detective shot at the beginning of the Movie for doubting the protagonist. I feel it in my bones.

[Elsa Jay]

Mages are evil by nature. Mages are the antithesis to Jigsaw's science and traps. Jigsaw wants us to kill the Mage.

We must follow Jigsaw.

[Elsa Jay]

That's very weak evidence nowadays Almost. Back then I had more of an ego and wanted to brag about it. Now I play more natural.

Sometimes you just gotta meme.

[Elsa Jay]

If I had a flip already I would, but frankly I'll just say nobody in the big hood should get lynched today. Seems important to keep around and I don't want the flavor of the hood already out there so that scum can flavorgame and PRs and shit.

Right now I'm observing for later things.

[Elsa Jay]

Because RN I'm making the assumption of there being 1 scum in said hood. Out of 7 people atleast.

With thoss 7 gone that leaves 4 more scum outta 14 remaining. I like the odds better of not getting a hood that isn't trying to solve itself yet anyway.

[Elsa Jay]

Well take away my contribution then. Sigh.

it's been a long time I was a day 1 lynch target! a little sad, a little interesting! Will people be happy if I promise that I do loads of amazing catch up and analysis on Friday night/Saturday morning? I do think trying to dip in and do a little bit here would be a waste of time and probably just get me lynched haha.

Maybe I can show my amazing value and be spared!

I know I'm a dramatic person too, but Battle, how high is this on the dramatic scale? The "haha" makes me wanna murder you.

[Elsa Jay]

God, the emojis after every sentence make me wanna kill it more.

[Elsa Jay]

I accept you as an anime girl doing that. A no face random though? Nada.

[Elsa Jay]

See, THAT is the problem. You now say LYNCH when it started off with "building wagons". I am alright wagoning multiple people, but if I had a DayVig I'd most likely shoot between you and EJ as we stand.

So, are you building wagons to pressure people and get them to talk more, or are aiming to end the day?

Jeez. Almost, it's like you want me dead or something.

[Elsa Jay]

Almost I'm starting to think your going out of your way to try and make the vigilante(s) waste a shot on me. Usually you've just left me alone day 1 and such because I'm "entertaining". I think your just trying to detract from the other potential wagons today.

[Elsa Jay]

I don't even know what traitor crumb your talking about anyway. Do you mean me bringing up the idea the neighborhood could've been for the traitor to talk to the main group scum?

[Elsa Jay]

Seems I have to be the one to point this out again. The game has an advertised town:scum ratio.
In a non-bastard game advertised with a specific town:scum ratio, I don't think a traitor is possible. Unless you're trying to argue it's 4 groupscum+traitor which would be a massive difference in balance.

I'm not the authority of the matter, but 5 scum is 5 scum. Doesn't matter if they're in the same PT as long as they're on the same team. So a traitor is still a possibility, particularly with Saw having quite a few of those types of people in the movies. But if you wanna continue with your logic and tell Almost there isn't a traitor and he's trying to get me shot for no reason, be my guest.

[Elsa Jay]

Last time I claimed traitor I was a Miller who didn't want to he checked and i had a feeling it would confuse scum too. I also made it to endgame that game because of it.

This game I'm making it so we aren't blindsided by some weird shit day 1 and stuff. Should've kept my crackpot theories to myself I guess.

This is the second or third time though I saw Almost go "if I'm wrong on elsa kill me after" though this game. That's very weird.

[Elsa Jay]

Seeing this heat up is nice. Gotta mop the store but when I get back I'll have more to say.

[Elsa Jay]

Yeah mopping took more outta me then I thought. I'll wake up with better ideas.

[Elsa Jay]

VOTE: Hectic

Sorry Mario. Seems your too sus to live.

[Elsa Jay]

@BM, Mod:

Please discuss via PM. There are new rules concerning demanding replace outs / threatening replace outs.

Yep we've spoken via PM, and I do know (and try to follow) the rules - didn't threaten to replace out. is there a rule against requesting a modkill for being a douche?

Requesting a Mod Kill does seem like a little overkill bro. Kinda isn't your call to make.

[Elsa Jay]

Elsa, why are you voting me?

Honest reason: I saw you had the most votes.

Not so honest reason: Your very scummy, of course I'd vote for you.

[Elsa Jay]

Ehh. Albert, did you switch to Momo or are you gung ho on Hectic? I'll follow you for now.

[Elsa Jay]

Alright, whatever, I'm claiming:

I'm Detective Halloran, a Police X-shot Sleuth.

X amount of times, I can investigate someone at night to see if they're an

Acolyte

, but I can't detect Jigsaw himself with my check.

I've been crumbing it all game with my RP.

When you specify Jigsaw, do you mean John Kramer only? A few people claimed to be Jigsaw.

[Elsa Jay]

Oh yeah, and gotta switch my vote now.

VOTE: Momo

[Elsa Jay]

Momo, why word it so confusingly and not clarify that in the first post? Also, kindly explain what a fucking Trap is. Is that the gimmick here? Are we dealing with a team of Poisoners?

[Elsa Jay]

Man scum killed a shit ton of people. What was even those other traps? GG scum though.

[Elsa Jay]

You feel sore? I got double trap killed. Very rude of scum. Why did they get me anyway?

[Elsa Jay]

Well atleast Dave knew I was scary enough to be rid of night one then. I'll wear that as a badge of honor.

[Elsa Jay]

Don't burst my bubble plz. Let me dream.