Micro 935 | Chain of Command | Game Over!

[shiki]

The problem I have with QQ now is that I don't know if this is their scum play or if it's just NAI.

have you attempted to investigate this?

Hey Drew, what do you think of Euphony/Iconeum/Datusi?

why are you inquiering about the townblock?

this is a strange question since it is the composition of the doctorpepper wagon at the time minus quantumquasar.

Iconeum is not the type of player I've played with. At least, not often. Jumps all over the shop. Hard to pin down. Calls Euphony scum in 184 and presses them in 185 but calls them part of the town read in 301.

i think this progression is kinda towny.

in 215 iconeum is still unsure of us:

euphony i'm not sure

in 238 it says we can be town:

euphony and drew can be town

these are the three posts we made between those two posts:

VOTE: Doctar7up

Really don't like 208 as a way of defending himself.

€^^^ Hectic

can we let them play it out and talk about it later?

It's basically played out to completion now, Blue Eyes White Dragon Iconeum (you may ask for a title change if you wish). What was interesting about Kanna's participation?

5÷5÷÷× Hectic

Quentin Quantum, did you have some hidden purpose related to solving by dropping 36?

I need to look back at Strawberry to see if Ico was this

loose

there.

I hope you guys appreciate these guns I'm signing my posts off with btw.

;;''''''' Hectic

it seemed strange to me that iconeum's read changed from these posts, especially since iconeum did not address hectic's question regarding kanna's participation. however, with their later stated reasons for townreading us:

euphony is coming across as free-flowing, funny jokingly yet still producing reads and pushing things

it comes mostly from hectic iirc

don't scumread it and it's good enough for me to be in the townblock at this point

in mind, it makes sense.

i saw that in strawberry but i don't know if that's scum indicative or getting heat early indicative

i think the parallels with micro 922 are that iconeum pushed on someone early and gave up that push rather easily, and when pushed on itself, it made a scumcase on another player. i don't think there are many parallels with mini normal 2088, in which iconeum used the early game to cover for potential differences in posting frequency compared to its town games and its reads/reactions felt heavily plotted.

like, this kinda looks like PR hunting at first but if it were actual PR hunting then drew would have just posted this in the scum PT instead of in the thread

i had the same thought about this. like if that was drew-sta's read he probably should not have shared it, but it doesn't make a lot of sense for him to post it in the thread as scum.

[shiki]

shiki, no comments about alduskkel?

nothing beyond what has already been noted. it was weird that alduskkel scumread me entirely for a misinterpretation of my words, but i struggle to communicate things clearly so it is difficult for me to weigh this appropriately. alduskkel has felt disengaged to me as well and i too found the timing of his push on iconeum to be kinda convenient.

Why is the 364 link broken, Hectic? It doesn't lead to the 364 in this thread.

oh wait, you included a space in the post tag and that broke it. lmao i almost got excited.

while trying to utilize the meanings of above sentence consisting of prediction: is, datisi, town?, the engine will build all its socio-anthropologic descriptions, taking resources from the whole system. furthermore, the question is datisi town? will be literally torn into pieces, more technologically speaking it will be transformed into a neural network consisting of hundreds of thousands of neurons with some high-privileged ones — the ones carrying the informations: is, datisi, town?.

Haven't checked if they have finished games so I can't comment on what I have seen so far from him

newbie 1988: https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=82274

large normal 226: https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=82371

Bruh.

Seriously?

i like to think of hectic's posts imitating me as an outlet for having to directly interface with me. it is also probably the primary benefit to him of my presence in the hydra.

these were directed to hectic but i will do my best to answer since i am here right now and he is not:

Happy with DoctarPepper/Alduskkel wagons I think.

Why are you happy with DP?

doctorpepper's pushes have felt like they a simply enacting an agenda. he pushed on quantumquasar despite acknowledging that what quantumquasar was doing wasn't necessarily scummy, which i'm pretty wary of because i think mafia would be pretty likely to do this, he pushed on us because he dislikes our playstyle? though that kinda feels like it was reasoning provided after the fact, and he said he couldn't get anything off of iconeum before iconeum had posted and then as soon as iconeum started posting he accused iconeum of tunneling him. like none of these felt real to me.

I kinda agree that Ico's AtE was towny

the situations are a little different in that he got flashlynched there/didn't have a chance to react and here he got run up to l1 while he was online. but this is true. What did you think of my other points?

i addressed the parallels with micro 922 here:

i think the parallels with micro 922 are that iconeum pushed on someone early and gave up that push rather easily, and when pushed on itself, it made a scumcase on another player.

do you think the iconeum progression i outlined in 423 would be easy to simulate as mafia?

Happy with DoctarPepper/Alduskkel wagons I think.

Can you elaborate on Alduskkel? 349 comes off as kind of a joke to me actually

i think it was said in a semi-joking manner but i do not believe it to have been a joke. the game had been pretty slow up until that point and alduskkel had largely not contributed outside of the aforementioned misinterpretation before putting iconeum to l-1.

pedit: oh, hectic here now. posted as is.

[shiki]

shiki, no comments about alduskkel?

nothing beyond what has already been noted. it was weird that alduskkel scumread me entirely for a misinterpretation of my words, but i struggle to communicate things clearly so it is difficult for me to weigh this appropriately. alduskkel has felt disengaged to me as well and i too found the timing of his push on iconeum to be kinda convenient.

Why is the 364 link broken, Hectic? It doesn't lead to the 364 in this thread.

oh wait, you included a space in the post tag and that broke it. lmao i almost got excited.

while trying to utilize the meanings of above sentence consisting of prediction: is, datisi, town?, the engine will build all its socio-anthropologic descriptions, taking resources from the whole system. furthermore, the question is datisi town? will be literally torn into pieces, more technologically speaking it will be transformed into a neural network consisting of hundreds of thousands of neurons with some high-privileged ones — the ones carrying the informations: is, datisi, town?.

Haven't checked if they have finished games so I can't comment on what I have seen so far from him

newbie 1988: https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=82274

large normal 226: https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=82371

Bruh.

Seriously?

i like to think of hectic's posts imitating me as an outlet for having to directly interface with me. it is also probably the primary benefit to him of my presence in the hydra.

these were directed to hectic but i will do my best to answer since i am here right now and he is not:

Happy with DoctarPepper/Alduskkel wagons I think.

Why are you happy with DP?

doctorpepper's pushes have felt like they a simply enacting an agenda. he pushed on quantumquasar despite acknowledging that what quantumquasar was doing wasn't necessarily scummy, which i'm pretty wary of because i think mafia would be pretty likely to do this, he pushed on us because he dislikes our playstyle? though that kinda feels like it was reasoning provided after the fact, and he said he couldn't get anything off of iconeum before iconeum had posted and then as soon as iconeum started posting he accused iconeum of tunneling him. like none of these felt real to me.

I kinda agree that Ico's AtE was towny

the situations are a little different in that he got flashlynched there/didn't have a chance to react and here he got run up to l1 while he was online. but this is true. What did you think of my other points?

i addressed the parallels with micro 922 here:

i think the parallels with micro 922 are that iconeum pushed on someone early and gave up that push rather easily, and when pushed on itself, it made a scumcase on another player.

do you think the iconeum progression i outlined in 423 would be easy to simulate as mafia?

Happy with DoctarPepper/Alduskkel wagons I think.

Can you elaborate on Alduskkel? 349 comes off as kind of a joke to me actually

i think it was said in a semi-joking manner but i do not believe it to have been a joke. the game had been pretty slow up until that point and alduskkel had largely not contributed outside of the aforementioned misinterpretation before putting iconeum to l-1.

pedit: oh, hectic here now. posted as is.

[shiki]

thankyou for moderating. i am okay with the release of the scum pt as is.

good game everyone.

feel like i was largely carried by hectic and okapoka, though i did correctly determine the command structure day one. for much of the game, i thought drew-sta was a pr because it seemed like he had something to fall on in case of getting pushed from his play.

i would like to see the pts. especially bugspray. here's hoping for release.

[shiki]

I was pretty certain my reaction was gonna be a blatant Commander claim to scum but meh.

i think your reaction to quantumquasar was a pretty strong giveaway.

[shiki]

Which reaction in particular do you mean?

you being frustrated with his openly roleplaying chain of command.

[shiki]

i am finding this more amusing than i should probably lmao

i am glad you appreciated that. i posted it from the wrong account because i went to research something from the blitz game while writing it.

i will be so sad if shiki is scum tbh.

sorry friend.

i feel like a couple of times now i've noticed drew/pepper posting very close to each other time-wise but i d k

i researched this heavily during the night because of your post in the main thread in case it was needed.

[shiki]

I remembered Shiki's mod meta read I'm sorry lmao.

hectic is an ideal hydra partner; he lambasts you in such a way that you still feel good about yourself.

[shiki]

lmao do people still not realize that was hectic pretending to be shiki

it is not exactly an unfair representation though. i did once think datisi was scum and crumbing masons with me. sometimes i compile the information incorrectly, and it is very hard for me to determine what is game relevant. coincidences are impossible for me to let go of.