lange nonal 227 OHHH!!!! OHHH!!!!! ITS OVER OHHHHHH!!!! OHHH

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VOTE: midwaybear
:Thinking:

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1. Nope.
2. Mininormal 2125
3. Not sure.

From tone I have hoctac and norwee likely town and manatee likely scum.

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Not a strong read but,
Nothing of his rings townie, and I particularly see this post coming from scum.

while we r at it, lets try to make communications clean and fluid
the more content we have, the better
if we need to translate every 2 posts, we r looseing possibilities on interactions

dont like this post it screams "im towny"

in a large game like this, picking some VI to quicklynch isn't a bad idea day 1.

While I dont like the idea behind this post im inclined to believe it comes from town for now

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hum, that post seems more townie than scummy than me
idk how good my tone reading is though

What's your thoughts on stan1ey?

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I like what he is doing so far. He is clarifying stuff and also trying to scumhunt(votato)
He said he was really good at scum though, but I still tl stan1ey

Similar to what I was thinking when I read his iso so far. His answers to questions all seem natural.

The more word talks the more I like his progression.

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Wagoning just to wagon is dumb.
VOTE: Madonna
There is definitely no hypocrisy here.

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I also have a slight scum read on ND for 173 followed with post 177 reads buddish. Not sure why he felt the need to ask the question to mid about a town read and then just agreeing with him. Felt very much like mid should take a shower after getting hit on my someone gross.

I've buddied much harder multiple times.
The goal was more so to get thoughts out of midway because I'm more comfortable in my a ability to read him then other players. He went from a slight scumlean to probably town.

ok fine
besides you, I agree with hoctac. Don't really like why Albert is fine with letting others decide his vote

I see youre very quick to drop opinions. Noted

I don't like people who don't like people who share thoughts for the reason that they shared thoughts.

I think my main gripe against the Madonna wagon at the moment is that most of the slots voting there are scummy, so i'm not touching it with a 3 foot pole.

You're the only townie person on the word wagon right now?

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is a site culture thing and I was expecting him to mention something to the degree of 585 but he hadn't.

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I like 461 from nahdia a lot.
Using the readlist they posted to refer to their earlier posts, I'm able to see the possible town mindset behind them a lot clearer then first read of them.

I'm getting torn on midway I'm seeing it both ways right now.
I'll look at his iso again.

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in a large game like this, picking some VI to quicklynch isn't a bad idea day 1.

I disagree? I mean we probably will end up lynching a VI, but I don't think we should quicklynch.

This is midway's VI post which Albert is mixing up the details of.

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VOTE: midwaybear

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There is only town and mafia.

I strongly townread everyone off the hang wagon besides popo, aka just Albert and votato.
Though I am townlean on popo.

VOTE: Nahdia

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UNVOTE: Nahdia
That isn't easier to make up?

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it is easy to make up because hoctac was killed
like I can claim tracker and say "hoctac went nowhere" and nobody could cc

A voyeur recieves every action type which visited the target.
So saying "killing action on hoctac" is no different than saying "no action on norwee"

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Farside is setting off multiple alarm bells for me.

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Albert
votato, word321
aloratom, popo
stan1ey, Nahdia*
norwee, midway, gobble
Madonna, farside22

*Ignoring claim.
The only actually scummy thing nahdia has done is quickhammer, and there were multiple people there several minutes later who didn't realize it was a hammer. The claim has a chance of being confirmed or confirming someone else is another reason I want to leave them alive longer.

Reading through gobble's iso he is scummier then I remembered.

I have farside at the bottom tier but I'm not all that convinced of them being scum? That probably sounds really scummy.

Can someone explain why they're townreading Madonna? I don't think much has changed since when they were wagoned day 1.

Midway's point about norwee's questions kinda hold imo, but it kinda feels weird to consider it scummy.

I want to believe midway is town here but the possible scum teams I get assuming midway is town just look weird.

I'm trying to remember why I was tr'ing 1ey earlier and I'm not really sure. Gonna check their iso again.

The other five I townread enough to say I definitely don't support hanging them today.

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Can you give me a sample 4 member scum team from your pov? @midway

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When I assume you're town I get stuff like farside/norwee/1ey/madonna.

I struggle to make a team without both farside and norwee fypov and I just can't wrap my head around that.

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VOTE: stan1ey
You are being sheeped.

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@midway I'm getting vibes of norwee and farside being the same alignment which is the opposite of yours, but that makes little sense to me as in I don't have enough information to draw such a conclusion so I don't know why I keep making those connections.

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885
Norwee prompted me for reads so naturally I gave them regardless of confidence.

As for norwee being low on my list, this is probably hypocritical but they don't actually have anything townie in their iso unless one considers asking questions to be townie.

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Pointless observation - Your readlist is basically the same as norwee's.

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@word this is my first large normal. I did however play a 12p mini where I had assumed 3 scum but there were only two.
I kind of just assumed no multiball, since it was explicitly stated there was no sk.

If nahdia is town and ends up a mislynch idk where we go from there.

What about midway? As the counter, that's the logical choice, right?

Midway's quite associatable with nahdia on a red flip though?

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I'm really not seeing this going anywhere else...

VOTE: nahdia

L-1

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a) This isn't proving effective because it's evident the hang isn't going anywhere else.

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Votato is still town.

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d1 final vote count

bob3141

(9):

farside22, Aloratom,

gobbledygook,

Madonna, NorwegianboyEE, stan1ey, midwaybear, word321,

Nahdia

midwaybear (4):

ManateeDude, Hoctac,

Albert B. Rampage, NDMath

ManateeDude

(1):

votato

farside22 (1):

bob3141

Nahdia

(1):

popopopopopopo

not voting (0):

with 16 alive, it took 9 to lynch.

d2 final vote count

Nahdia

(7):

popopopopopopo, stan1ey,

gobbledygook,

NorwegianboyEE, Madonna, NDMath, farside22

stan1ey (2):

Albert B. Rampage,

Nahdia

NDMath (1):

word321

Madonna (1):

votato

not voting (2):

midwaybear, Aloratom

with 13 alive, it took 7 to lynch.

I looked at these during the night.
I was

gonna

say that given I'm town and Albert's obvtown, midway should be scum because in the first votecount scum show a clear preference to hanging Bob over midway.
Not much info in the second votecount, at least yet.

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Albert
votato, word321
aloratom, popo
stan1ey, Nahdia*
norwee, midway, gobble
Madonna, farside22

*Ignoring claim.
The only actually scummy thing nahdia has done is quickhammer, and there were multiple people there several minutes later who didn't realize it was a hammer. The claim has a chance of being confirmed or confirming someone else is another reason I want to leave them alive longer.

pal, u need to update this like rn
either way, why did u vote nahdia while we r on the matter?

I didn't see how we would get actual reactions out of anyone with 3-4 people dead set on hanging nahdia.

Popo
votato, word321
Farside, aloratom
albert
norwee, stan1ey
Madonna, midway

Albert's obvtown,

?

Gonna was italicized because that's what I was thinking before. Seeing Stan1ey's case I realize that is not true.

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Errrr
I don't have a response to that.
VOTE: Albert
L-2

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Fun.

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Norwe's claim matches completely with the odd things I noticed yesterday (namely confidence in hanging nahdia).

Can people start explaining in more detail why they actually town/scum read Albert/Stan so we can get more understanding of people's motivations?

Both of their claims are scummy.
I question how much it matters.

I am here now, and missed a lot. A cop who unvotes with a guilty?

This reaction is really weird to me.

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popo
Norwegian
farside
votato
Stanley
word
NDMath
Madonna
Midway

What is this?

Looks like a readlist meant for after Albert is hung but stan1ey's spot on it makes no sense.

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d1 final vote count

bob3141 (9):

farside22,[/color] Aloratom,

gobbledygook,

Madonna, NorwegianboyEE,

stan1ey

, midwaybear, word321,

Nahdia

midwaybear (4):

ManateeDude, Hoctac,

Albert B. Rampage,

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ManateeDude (1):

votato

farside22 (1):

bob3141

Nahdia (1):

popopopopopopo

not voting (0):

with 16 alive, it took 9 to lynch.

d2 final vote count

Nahdia

(7):

popopopopopopo,

stan1ey, gobbledygook,

NorwegianboyEE, Madonna, NDMath,

farside22

stan1ey (2):

Albert B. Rampage, Nahdia

NDMath (1):

word321

Madonna (1):

votato

not voting (2):

midwaybear, Aloratom

with 13 alive, it took 7 to lynch.

d3 final vote count

stan1ey (6):

votato,

Albert B. Rampage,

popopopopopopo, Aloratom, midwaybear, NorwegianboyEE

Albert B. Rampage (4):

stan1ey,

NDMath,

farside22,

Madonna

not voting (1):

word321

with 11 alive, it took 6 to lynch.

Based off these I would poe [midway, word, votato, aloratom]. Everyone else hit the day 2 wagon.
Madonna was also voting Albert d3, and voting for teammates twice looks unlikely considering the Albert/nahdia interaction.
Popo had basically caught nahdia.
Norwee's claim is townie.

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Midway and Tom being on the hang wagon when it's town and only then sticks out.

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Errrr
I don't have a response to that.
VOTE: Albert
L-2

And i don’t like your response to that.
WHY did you think Albert was obvtown?

Like to see the answer to this.

@ndmath -- you can answer this?

Confirmation bias mostly. I liked what he was saying.


@norwee Do I have permission to lead a mass claim?

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@norwee Do I have permission to lead a mass claim?

Ok? I don’t mind.

Cool.

This is the claim order.

1. Aloratom
2. Votato
3. Word
4. Madonna
5. NDMath
6. Popo

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By lead I meant pick the order.
That order was chosen based off my role and the information I have.

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Norway is oddnight, and the evennight aliens are ascetic, but yeah.

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@norwee Do I have permission to lead a mass claim?

Why his permission?

I needed authority so votato and the gang couldn't force me to claim first.

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Word, are you gonna claim or...?

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Might as well claim now since Madonna should be able to figure out the most of it.

I am confirm Town unless madonna/popo try to cc me.
Full Vigilante
N1 Manatee
-pet scumread. Also was my only off wagon scumread (lol).
N2 Madonna
-I considered shooting norwee but had gotten pr vibes from them. I hadn't town read Madonna at all and found the lack of much madonna/nabdia interaction weird.
-I assume the gobble kill was vig hunting because I have no clue what else it would be.
N3 Albert
-Outed scum.

Votato aliened either me or Madonna night 2.
Votato can't be mafia doctor because Albert died. Given current setup mafia roleblocker doesn't make sense. Even Night less so.
So votato is basically confirm town.

I put Tom first since I thought it looked like I might be softing a guilty on him, hoping scum!Tom would try covering a voyeur action or something.
I put popo last because I thought his confidence in hanging stan1ey was because he was some sort of jailkeeper and had blocked my night 2 kill, which would allow me to win a cc if someone went for that. (I was kinda worried about votato there.)

I'm expecting one of Madonna/popo to be a decent pr which will allow us to evaluate norwee's claim fitting with the ub or not better.

Role and Info was referring to that I knew the vigilante was full, and that almost certainly a townie blocked my n2 kill.
We'll be at 5 tomorrow so I only had 1 more shot no matter what.

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Vigilante
Rolestopper
Ascetic Even Night Alien
Odd Night Tracker?
UB

Against voyeurs? They can tell if something blocks them or if their buddy gets tracked by the threatening odd night tracker.
Actually it probably means the tracker is real because nahdia decided to claim the kill.


Hang Tom, alien word, vig midway is probably what makes the most sense here?
Then hang ??? And track popo.
Then it's 3p lylo and norwee either is scum or knows who it is barring popo being a ninja.

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Pretty sure this is the optimal plan. We just have to decide who is which letter.
--
A, B, C, and D represent Tom, midway, word, and Madonna in some order.

Hang A.
Math vigs B.
If A is scum, votato aliens C.
If A is town, votato doesn't say who they alien. (Not Math or B)

Hang [C/D]
Norwee tracks popo

Hang
-If this is 3p norwee is in a cc with someone.
-If this is 4p we have 2 kills in a pool of 3.

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I made it generic.

What part is confusing? Would it help if I labeled phases?

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There are three votes on Tom right now. (Norwee, madonna, midway)

Hang Tom
vig midway
If Tom is mafia alien word
If Tom is town don't say who you're going to alien.

I'm ready for hammer if votato is.

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[hide=Word post]

We have this guy pinning on Aloratom:

Spoiler:

L-1: you me norwee madonna
if alor flips scum, vig word. It seemed like he was trying to deflect

today's lynch should be me or midway

this line never comes from town
VOTE: Aloratom

pretty sure alor is scum because town doesn't just give up like that. That being said, I sorta get his attitude right now.
Still think he is the best hang.

ok, I just don't want to die because I'm town(opposite of Alor)

Until alarotam became too townread to be lynched (I know this is an alteration of the timeline, but this does reflect the thought process midway may have had at the time):

Spoiler:

stop
if alor flips town it's madonna+word
I don't like his resigned tone, but I feel it too

Alor feels townie now, so we pivot to word
I am not the lynch todsy

Into a full blown stampede on the other townslots:

Spoiler:

L-1: you me norwee madonna
if alor flips scum, vig word. It seemed like he was trying to deflect

why am I being vigged over word?

every game you play a bit differently, but in no games do you do much scumhunting. and in 1997 i gave you a newbie pass and paid for it. i cant let you get away with that twice, so i feel like i have to be extra hard on you. notice that i havent hardpushed you or tunneled you this game. i just consistently call you out for not actually helping to gamesolve. i keep asking you to help out and ask you to give reads, thoughts and analysis. but you never do.

yes, fair enough
I think if alor flips town, vig/alien madonna/word
Upon scum flip, vig word and he should be the last scum
idk what PRs scum have, so hopefully they don't have a roleblocker
pedit: @norwee

VOTE: word321
Lets do this

Lets wait for ND. Pretty sure he is on the same page as you, but this is getting nowhere.
I can see where you’re coming from votato, but I already tried to pull interaction quotes and it didn’t work so there’s not much more I can do.
Idk who is scum. Nahdia defended word though, so keep it in mind.

What about pox7

Nahdia defended word though

Can you pull this up?

sorry, I meant manatee
I guess nahdia and abr did decide to bus

Note the emphasis on my slot over the other, coincidentally being the most scumread over {Madonna, 7po, word321}
Not only it has incorrect facts, as Abr and Nahdia coluded on my wagon on D1, she never defended me once (u can go check it out if u want); he retracted about that only after being called out on it.

There is also flawed logic; his first attitude was "If alarotam is scum, vig word instead of block, as he was deflective". U know, in the plan I was to be blocked; if u rly though I was the most likely partner, the best course of action would be to block, cause that would have easily shown a no kill on the day; this is for pragmatic reasons, as scum can actually not kill that night, so blocking on this scenario is faulty (unless, again, we r talking about the most possible partner)***. If bear is rly town, then even if he dies we win the game under that hypothesis. On the other hand, if Im not the most likely partner to Aloratom, then only if I was the most suspect would it be better to vig at night my slot, EXACTLY if im, again, not the most likely partner; the association does not amount to anything.
What does it amount, though? Bear survives the night, cause he is not vigged. Furthermore, Aloratom dstn even

need

to be scum; the current convention is that we will vig

regardless of a flip

and only block

upon a flip

.
This is faulty logic in so many ways, and favors bear so much it is not even funny.

I thought to actually also post his "spectacular" defense on his (lack of) assosiation with albert, but u can all go iso him for that. Its funny considering one of the things that killed the most momentum of his wagon after nahdias lynch was alberts gambit, wich monopolized the day.

Overall, I RLY think at this point midwaybear is scum. How can a player pray so much for his own survival? Thats the only thing that makes me think that makes him town, cause no scum would be so blatantly obvious. But he isnt even trying to rly solve the game; again, the above argument is

factually wrong

meaning he didnt even bother to check how things rly went. I cant even associate it with newbieness; I saw him on 1997, he wasnt a bad player.
I just think he is playing every card to stay alive here.

And again I must repeat myself:

We have so many little real information we r judgin ppl directly based upon comparatives, and not "hard" data

. From the lynch list, the only one Im truly confident could be scum is midwaybear; our current process of choosing the lynch is naturally orbiting to leaving the most experient players alive, and not the most likely towns; proof of that is aloratoms current shift to block instead of lynch, midways bear drift towards the most scummy player and 7pos practical immunity. I feel this is highly faulty, specially considering (again, repeating myself) that the most likely scums to survive r the most experient ones; thats completely contradictory with bear. I have made every single call wrong this game, so I may be biased; but I RLY think the dices on this particular ocasion r better (upon a prearranged list, oc).

Upon the current arrangement of things, its pretty clear bear and me cant be partners; so under that hypothesis, considering Ill be in the trio of players to be lynched, it IS indeed more effective to lynch bear, then vig me and then block aloratom (excluding Madonna and 7po); but due to his recent attitude to aloratom, I think there should be another 3rd player instead of aloratom on the block in case bear effectlively flips scum. Notice Im currently proposing to ditch that particular bit of the current strategy though.

***This is why I dnt like NDMaths, plan. There r 2 main reasons:
1. Keep things deadsimple, if they r as effective; no need to put a lot of conditionals on this.
2. Confirming who u r blocking is a TERRIBLE idea on every single scenario; even if we do lynch scum, lets say we r wrong on the block, and scum dsnt kill that night. What would happen? Thats a free ticket to defeat. On the other hand, not disclosing the block actually has investigative values, cause scum dsnt know who will be blocked

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The conditionals are important for optimization.
If scum no kill after we hang scum, we literally straight up win. That would be excellent.
The experienced players are the townie ones.
Norwee gets to survive because of the claim anyway.


I think scum team is either midway/tom or word/tom.

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There are three votes on Tom right now. (Norwee, madonna, midway)

Hang Tom
vig midway
If Tom is mafia alien word
If Tom is town don't say who you're going to alien.

I'm ready for hammer if votato is.

I'm still in favor of this.
If midway is hung then swap tom and midway.

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ok, I'm actually going to defend myself but give me some time
no hurry

When do we get this Midway?

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I'm kind of understanding 1922.
Day 1 popo does look like tmi if nahdia+midway are both scum.

The nahdia/midway/popo interaction day 2 sticks out the most.

Spoiler: midway+popo interaction with scum early/mid day 2

the quickhammer was unfortunate but id probably have hammered myself if mans had claimed even night ascetic alien lmfao so its not THAT big a deal

vote: nahdia

checking in. Yes, I agree that I don't like the way the hammer was performed. Waiting for Nahdia

definitely found the hammer suspicious, and I agree that her early play was also shady. I view this bandwagon as sort of opportunistic because I'm not sure scum would put themselves under that much suspicion.

pedit: ???

it's suspicious that nahdia targetted a dead player because that is easily faked

didn't realize it was l-1. i wouldn't hammer without a claim. sorry bob :\

voyeur. hoctac was killed by a killing action (lol)

I FEEL VERY COMFORTABLE LYNCHING THIS

i dont see why me targeting a dead player is any more easy to fake than any living player. hoctac was still a valid target last night.

cuz he flipped, so it is easier to make up something compared to if you targeted a living player

didn't realize it was l-1. i wouldn't hammer without a claim. sorry bob :\

voyeur. hoctac was killed by a killing action (lol)

I FEEL VERY COMFORTABLE LYNCHING THIS

i don't

Seems like such an unusual claim if Nahdia is scum. So i find it believable.

what??? its a pr claim thats unconfirmable because it was on a dead person, and theres zero chance of anyone cc'ing


IF YOU TRACKED/WATCHED/ANYTHING ELSE NAHDIA TO HOCTAC LAST NIGHT DO NOT CLAIM

i dont see why me targeting a dead player is any more easy to fake than any living player. hoctac was still a valid target last night.

cuz he flipped, so it is easier to make up something compared to if you targeted a living player

didn't realize it was l-1. i wouldn't hammer without a claim. sorry bob :\

voyeur. hoctac was killed by a killing action (lol)

I FEEL VERY COMFORTABLE LYNCHING THIS

i don't

?????? THESE TWO ARE ALMOST CERTAINLY PARTNERS

popo chill with the all caps

if you view the claim as suspicious why are you not comfortable with a lynch?

popo chill with the all caps

if you view the claim as suspicious why are you not comfortable with a lynch?

because they could be truthtelling

THIS IS FUCKING BS THEY CLAIMED A SHITTY PR AND TARGETED THE NIGHT KILL

LYNCH IT WITH FIRE

Or are you saying scum!Nahdia intentionally chose to say they targeted Hoctac (One of the deaths) with a worthless night action as mafia?

nahdia was fairly scumread yesterday by me and a few others. if scum nahdia claimed visiting a different person they would be at risk of a tracker/watcher/other PR disproving their claim and getting immediately lynched. what do you think a better claim for scum nahdia would be in this situation, assuming they made the NK?

picture this situation
someone claims tracker - i tracked nahdia to hoctac

nahdia "oh yea im a voyeur hoctac was killed lol"

would be lynched

yeah, but nobody tracked them to hoctac. I don't like norwee because his questions aren't really helpful towards the discussion

i agree midway looks scummy here but nahdia is far worse

let's bandwagon norwee and nahdia. I agree that we should not quicklynch again though. Let's take our time

We have bigger fish to fry. We need information, connections, competing bandwagons right now. I was in this exact same situation in Guns and Roses IV where we had to decide between eyestot/votato and even though we lynched correctly we lost the game. Sometimes, the optimal town play is to go after the stronger scum manipulating from the shadows rather than the lynchbaits.

do you think nahdia is scum y/n

We have bigger fish to fry. We need information, connections, competing bandwagons right now. I was in this exact same situation in Guns and Roses IV where we had to decide between eyestot/votato and even though we lynched correctly we lost the game. Sometimes, the optimal town play is to go after the stronger scum manipulating from the shadows rather than the lynchbaits.

do you think nahdia is scum y/n

He said he was town reading her day 1. I don't know why because he won't explain.

why did you take ur vote off. i cant believe im the only one who doesn't see the obv scum staring us in the face from that claim.

VOTE: popopopopopopo still on this.

My point on him overjustifying his case on midway stands. it's an exquisitely scummy case. just a mess of "contradictions" and objective scum moves (the VI thing). in my experience, hunting for contradictions is how mafia pretends to scumhunt. fun fact, town contradicts themselves too. the only fair point popopopopopo raises is that midway wasn't actually outting reads.

also Big Fucking Yikes on 717. please tell me im not the only one that viscerally cringed at that post. like come on.

like i mean i'll vote midway, but at this point im as confident as i can be on a scumread without like, a confirmed guilty

VOTE: popopopopopopo still on this.

My point on him overjustifying his case on midway stands. it's an exquisitely scummy case. just a mess of "contradictions" and objective scum moves (the VI thing). in my experience, hunting for contradictions is how mafia pretends to scumhunt. fun fact, town contradicts themselves too. the only fair point popopopopopo raises is that midway wasn't actually outting reads.

also Big Fucking Yikes on 717. please tell me im not the only one that viscerally cringed at that post. like come on.

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whatever, ill gladly switch my vote to midway once everyone checks in if we cant get more people on the nahdia wagon, i was thinking there's a chance he's just noob town but the norwe stuff the last few pages was bad for him for sure

pedit: what votato said

We have bigger fish to fry. We need information, connections, competing bandwagons right now. I was in this exact same situation in Guns and Roses IV where we had to decide between eyestot/votato and even though we lynched correctly we lost the game. Sometimes, the optimal town play is to go after the stronger scum manipulating from the shadows rather than the lynchbaits.

do you think nahdia is scum y/n

Yeah I thought she was scum. The claim could be fake, it could be real, all I know is that lynching nahdia today won't win us the game and while I'm alive I'd like to make some fucking progress on solving.

how does lynching scum not progress the town win con lol

Popo is town, I want to see a push on farside. gobble, stanley... there's too many question marks right now and we're all getting distracted.

Popo is town, I want to see a push on farside. gobble, stanley... there's too many question marks right now and we're all getting distracted.

im not distracted i have caught scum, they made a terrible fakeclaim, now i am pushing their lynch

scumteam of Nahdia, midway, ABR, ?????


could it be that easy?

scumteam of Nahdia, midway, ABR, ?????


could it be that easy?

the answer is probably not, but rampage's play has been strange and makes no sense to me rn

1v1 between you and Nahdia is a premium animal crossing level distraction. Popo you have no fucking clue what's going on and neither do I because of the stupid bob wagon yesterday.

Ever had a poorly skilled scum win a game because of a lurkerhunt? I have.

Let me preface this article with How to Direct your Attention on Scum 101, in three simple steps:

1. Focus on the player that needs to be lynched. If a player catches your attention, concentrate on them. Probe, ask innocent questions, predict how the next stage of the game will unfold and ask them what they will do if such a situation arises. Surround them with their own convictions and corner them into their own self-imposed molds of accepted behavior. You want them to build a tree house for you to destroy later.
2. Don't lose sight. Ignore other players' inquiries if their questions don't move you closer to lynching your target player. Take things further. Get an emotional reaction out of your victim by heavily accusing them of scum backed by whatever evidence you have. It should be 50% evidence, 50% accusation. You should make it clear to your suspect that you will never change your mind about them, and you will do anything to get them lynched, every day, every page, every damn post. This will work to your advantage. Keep the ball on your court, rob the scum of their dominance and place them in a frame of survival. This way, you are exploiting the maximum bussing potential of a scumteam.
3. Do not justify your focus. Never justify your single-mindedness. If you present it as part of your personality, players will likely just go with it. Present your case and state your intentions, but never justify the jewel of your focal point. The reason for this is simple: you want to make the game about your victim, not about your obsessiveness with that person. The line between the two is slim but it makes a world of difference.


what the hell happened to this albert b rampage

Seemed a bit convenient for you to show up just as we were talking about you barely playing, but ok.

Bad way to read games. Shame to you.

lotta wrong, itt. Norway talk to me about why popopopopopopopo is town for you? it's a Bad Read.

Nahdia, read on ABR?

tooooowwnn??

abr is hard. my read is more about what i think he'd doing as scum than what he is actually doing. which is probably a bad way to read a slot.

I can easily compromise on Nahdia though. Unless anyone claims that they vigged Hoctac it's just too suspicious that they supposedly targeted there.
VOTE: Nahdia

will you reconsider on popopo once you're wrong on me

I mean, I'd prefer midway to me.

Cus Popopo ain’t gonna happen today.

whhhhhhhhhhhhyyyy??

i am unironically the most obvtown player in this game. more votes on nahdia please.

VOTE: midway

Fine. Tired of fighting vs. ppl who don't want to listen.

VOTE: Nahdia

most of your day 2 posts are low effort with no real substance and thats the same for your arguments as to why we shouldnt lynch nahdia so why would anyone want to listen to you

i wrote the book on midway scum this game, and i am telling you nahdia is the better lynch.

lmao
nahdia literally defended me from pox7's case, and now they are voting me.
comedy

kinda seems like it's you or me, my dude.

also like, i have been misrepped a Thousand Times this game, so let me state again, i was not defending you. i was calling popopopo's case a scumcase. that is not a defense of you.

p cool how you conveniently gloss over that though. whatever. no biggie.

Breaking News: Not Realizing it's L-1 Isn't a Scumtell

More on this at 11

that has literally zero to do with why i think you're scum. for me its your day 1 play, and your obviously fake claim.

-Add in Albert defending nahdia.

Midway's interaction looks really scummy in this.

If midway is scum, it is crazy how much popo has interacted with and scumread these three members of the scum team.

[NDMath]

@Votato

I'll vig Tom regardless of flip.
You alien popo if midway flips scum because I would prefer having popo cleared on scum!midway.

[NDMath]

This was fun.

Strong Town PR is still stressful for me