lange nonal 227 OHHH!!!! OHHH!!!!! ITS OVER OHHHHHH!!!! OHHH

[midwaybear]

What it dooo, flight crew?
VOTE: votato

[midwaybear]

ok so from the setup: "there are only town and mafia." since we know there are only two factions, why dont we all just claim what faction we are a part of? that would really help to clarify where we stand and who we should be lynching. I'm mafia.

I think we should believe what Votato is saying here.

that he's mafia?

[midwaybear]

RQS Questions
1. Are you scum?
2. What are some of your recent games?
3. What is your favorite role?

1. Nope
2. Newbie 1997
3. Cop

[midwaybear]

pahls ley off te durgs

[midwaybear]

trying to decipher what you're trying to say is harder than the reading comprehension section on certain standardized tests
My best guess is that you're asking how good our scum games are.
My answer: I like to think that it's good, but it's probably not

[midwaybear]

@stan1ey what mistake? I'm pretty sure they were both trolling in that exchange.

pedit: @hoctac wdym by "he is 2019"

[midwaybear]

@stan1ey what mistake? I'm pretty sure they were both trolling in that exchange.

pedit: @hoctac wdym by "he is 2019"

pretty sure they werent:

Oh I see now. It seems like votato thought Norwee tr him for trolling about being scum. Don't really like votato for that, but I'm going to keep my mind open.

[midwaybear]

I will do my best to decipher whatever language Hoctac is speaking

[midwaybear]

wait what mistake did norwee make in the first place?

[midwaybear]

It is a gimmick
we would appreciate it if you speak like you normally do
pedit: yeah

[midwaybear]

bruh you just replied me about it

I asked "what mistake" in 78 because I thought they were both trolling. Then I realized that norwee's vote was not based on troll, but I still don't see a mistake

[midwaybear]

bruh you just replied me about it

I asked "what mistake" in 78 because I thought they were both trolling. Then I realized that norwee's vote was not based on troll, but I still don't see a mistake

NBEE thought that votato was saying he town reads votato, when votato was actually talking to Hoctac. NBEE says he made the mistake because he was quoted and thought that meant it was directed at him

ah I see now thanks
not really sure how hoctac drewe that norwee was panicking

[midwaybear]

Doubt it because
1. the mod has misspelled words in his other titles (mini 2126)
2. hoctac is speaking normally now

pedit: @stan1ey I'm not sure exactly what they are, but here's my guess. Posting restrictions are part of some people's roles where they might have to abide by a certain rule pertaining to their post

[midwaybear]

in a large game like this, picking some VI to quicklynch isn't a bad idea day 1.

I disagree? I mean we probably will end up lynching a VI, but I don't think we should quicklynch.

[midwaybear]

chill buddy

[midwaybear]

ok this is weird now
does anyone here have experience playing in schadd's games? Are they like this?

[midwaybear]

yeah sure
however, I am a bit cautious. I don't really see anything too out of the blue with word's current posts compared to his standard town meta

[midwaybear]

[midwaybear]

I don't get what is wrong with manatee??

[midwaybear]

hum, that post seems more townie than scummy than me
idk how good my tone reading is though

[midwaybear]

I like what he is doing so far. He is clarifying stuff and also trying to scumhunt(votato)
He said he was really good at scum though, but I still tl stan1ey

[midwaybear]

idk he gave an intro too in his reply to my RQS. In 1997, people were scumreading him because his posts were a bit too formal and because he had a sort of "goodieboy" attitude. He was town in that game

[midwaybear]

still not buying it
however, the one hole in my meta defense is that I have never seen a word scumgame

[midwaybear]

Ok, so Hoctac was basically trolling us
Dunno what to think about that :/

[midwaybear]

Hmm that actually is an interesting contradiction you pointed out.
VOTE: Manatee

[midwaybear]

i like Word's defence of himself. word, the meta i checked showed you had more natural conversation with people and felt less rigid then the posts early this game where you gave "townleans" to some guy and farside

this is contradictory

[midwaybear]

I feel like manatee's explanation doesn't make sense which is why my vote is still o him

[midwaybear]

ok fine
besides you, I agree with hoctac. Don't really like why Albert is fine with letting others decide his vote

[midwaybear]

I see youre very quick to drop opinions. Noted

not really because I hard tunnel sometimes
just gave you the benefit of the doubt.

[midwaybear]

actually after checking some meta the word wagon is fine

I don’t like this

VOTE: Hoctac

Why dnt u like this? Whats ur take on Trecko?

His meta defense made no sense. He said that he found you to be natural in your past games, but then said that you were less natural in this game. First of all, most people found you to be more formal in your posting style not natural. Second, if you are playing different from your meta, how can he like your defense?

[midwaybear]

VOTE: Madonna
oh yeah

[midwaybear]

u could quote the entire iso and it'd be a pretty damn strong case

nice 6 post iso

[midwaybear]

lol I'm down

[midwaybear]

The goal was more so to get thoughts out of midway because I'm more comfortable in my a ability to read him then other players. He went from a slight scumlean to probably town.

But I never played in a game with you

[midwaybear]

Why are you still joking like it is RVS

[midwaybear]

[midwaybear]

i am an easily convinced man
notice that I accepted manatee's explanation too

[midwaybear]

ok fine
besides you, I agree with hoctac. Don't really like why Albert is fine with letting others decide his vote

this is me letting him off thehook

[midwaybear]

Yeah, I think manatee is fine.

[midwaybear]

I think manatee shouldn't be pushed from his explanations. I still do not see his logic, but I am going to give him the benefit of the doubt. I don't really have much on the others, but I like stan1ey too because he is pushing people and trying to find contradictions.

[midwaybear]

only a scum deals in absolutes

is this a starwars reference?

what is ur case manatee

[midwaybear]

because that's how you get people to realize that you're joking

[midwaybear]

i reread the thread and this interaction stuck out to me. reads like 2 scum players lightly prodding it each othe

wdym by prodding? I know NDMath from a different site, so maybe that can explain it?

[midwaybear]

how am I supposed to respond to this? It seems like you built your case around me voting madonna which was different from before. Idk what I was thinking, so I can't really defend myself there. The rest of your case is ok I guess. I will try to be less hypocritical.
pedit: bruh moment

[midwaybear]

Thank you

[midwaybear]

idk what to respond though

[midwaybear]

actually his argument is pretty bad
i will give real defense later

[midwaybear]

What is ndmath playstyle like?

I never played in a game with him. I just know him lol

[midwaybear]

Spoiler: what popo said

midwaybear- really poor ISO imo. lets go over some stuff.

pahls ley off te durgs

trying to decipher what you're trying to say is harder than the reading comprehension section on certain standardized tests
My best guess is that you're asking how good our scum games are.
My answer: I like to think that it's good, but it's probably not

I will do my best to decipher whatever language Hoctac is speaking

It is a gimmick
we would appreciate it if you speak like you normally do
pedit: yeah

this stuff reads like busywork, overemphasis on the typos and meme posting common at the start of day 1, especially in a large. great way to be active in thread and look busy/helpful without contributing to town wincon.

in a large game like this, picking some VI to quicklynch isn't a bad idea day 1.

I disagree? I mean we probably will end up lynching a VI, but I don't think we should quicklynch.

ok, if we probably end up lynching a VI as u say, whats the problem with a quicklynch. also, midwaybear would go on to contradict himself later on

yeah sure
however, I am a bit cautious. I don't really see anything too out of the blue with word's current posts compared to his standard town meta

this was a lie, he didnt check word's meta. he had one game played with him, so referencing "standard town meta" is disingenuous at best.

Ok, so Hoctac was basically trolling us
Dunno what to think about that :/

hoctac was trolling us good town players frowny face :/
please

Hmm that actually is an interesting contradiction you pointed out.
VOTE: Manatee

I feel like manatee's explanation doesn't make sense which is why my vote is still o him

i cant talk since i also voted manatee, but that shit was wack we can all look back and agree

OK NOW THIS PART I FIND ESPECIALLY SKETCHY, I DIDNT QUOTE EVERY POST IN ORDER BUT HERE IS THE IMPORTANT PART

VOTE: madonna

VOTE: Madonna
oh yeah

We had a solid bandwagon on word, and a competing miniwagon with manatee. I think that's sufficient information for day 2, all considered.

I'm just tired of 80 page day 1s where every town role is outted and scum can pick the PRs apart...….every damn time.

lol I'm down

HOW IS THIS NOT A DIRECT CONTRADICTION TO MIDBEAR SAYING TO ME HE DOESN'T WANT A QUICKLYNCH IN POST #132?? HE HAS COMPLETELY SHIFTED HIS OPINION AND NOW HE IS ALL LIKE "LOL IM DOWN" WHEN IT COMES TO SPEEDWAGON ON MADONNA, AFTER PREVIOUSLY SAYING HE DOESNT THINK WE SHOULD MISLYNCH. VERY SUS

Why are you still joking like it is RVS

this shit i dont like either. admonishing someone for joking around, then 6 posts later he posts a smiley.

I think manatee shouldn't be pushed from his explanations. I still do not see his logic, but I am going to give him the benefit of the doubt. I don't really have much on the others, but I like stan1ey too because he is pushing people and trying to find contradictions.

here is another post when he harps on about this stanley townread again for some unknown reason.

LOOK THROUGH HIS ISO AND FIND ME A SCUMREAD, FIND ME JUST ONE. midwaybear voted manatee for a shit reason, and then hopped on the madonna wagon, which i and abr joked about being a speed wagon, right after stating he doesn't want a speedlynch.

so

vote: midwaybear

i feel good about this

Spoiler: my response to each of his points

the busywork thing: You can basically say that for everyone during RVS, so I don't know why this is even a point. It could be seen as scum fake contributing, but look at it like an introduction.
VI comment: I thought VI meant village innocent, but I realize now that you meant it as village idiot.
word meta: I mean town metas do not really change too much
hoctac: idk what u are trying to say here srry
manatee: I backed off of manatee
madonna: lol Idk what I was thinking there. TBH, madonna was never in danger of getting lynched.
hypocrisy: sorry
stan1ey: someone asked me for my reads, so I that's why I mentioned stan1ey
scumread: they will come do not worry

[midwaybear]

is a site culture thing and I was expecting him to mention something to the degree of 585 but he hadn't.

oops that too

[midwaybear]

no I didn't want to quicklynch a innocent
i thought you guys meant innocent when you meant idiot

[midwaybear]

I was still doubtful until i read: "oops that too"

wdym?

[midwaybear]

I like 461 from nahdia a lot.
Using the readlist they posted to refer to their earlier posts, I'm able to see the possible town mindset behind them a lot clearer then first read of them.

I'm getting torn on midway I'm seeing it both ways right now.
I'll look at his iso again.

bruh I thought I was ez to read

[midwaybear]

no, u made 4-5 posts about the typos, it was forced.

it was pretty annoying. you gotta agree
idk who I scumread yet sorry

[midwaybear]

no I didn't want to quicklynch a innocent
i thought you guys meant innocent when you meant idiot

You said town was probably going to lynch a village innocent today and then you said you were down to quicklynch...

I feel bad catching scum this easily, there's no contest

idk why though. I think I was just going with the moment. You didn't catch scum buddy

[midwaybear]

I scumread NDMath for voting me. Idk why he is doing that when he said he would reconsider. I would at least like some explantation

[midwaybear]

i legit backed off of manatee
stop using that as a reason to scumread me please.

[midwaybear]

lol same
I just want some content

[midwaybear]

Did I say votato town yet? Because votato is town.

u claimed mason with him so yeah

[midwaybear]

It is a midwaybear push now, did the bob3141 train not get enough steam?

no people still SR bob

[midwaybear]

People said that scum me was not really putting out reads though lol. They said I was asking too many questions and reeked uncertainty

[midwaybear]

They are voting for me lol

[midwaybear]

VOTE: Bob
Sure

[midwaybear]

i think bob is hammered

[midwaybear]

Curiosity, have you played online mafia elsewhere?

I play somewhere else normally(the site with NDMath), but I started in April

pedit: let's see what happens

[midwaybear]

L-1 was not declared though, so it’s hard who to blame if he is town

[midwaybear]

i blame midway

Is this a joke or serious?

[midwaybear]

checking in. Yes, I agree that I don't like the way the hammer was performed. Waiting for Nahdia

[midwaybear]

I’m leaning on Manateedude being the vig shot maybe? He seemed kinda lynchbaity so why would scum shoot there?

hoctac was also under mild suspicion though

[midwaybear]

probably would have believed it tbh because it sounds so weird

[midwaybear]

Hot take: Nahdia/Midway are scum. And Nahdia was doing that "Popopo is bussing and it's SvS" shit as a advanced bussing strategy.
Scum playing 4D CHESS!

what is the point of your "hot takes". Isn't that just straight up defending not bussing

[midwaybear]

definitely found the hammer suspicious, and I agree that her early play was also shady. I view this bandwagon as sort of opportunistic because I'm not sure scum would put themselves under that much suspicion.

pedit: ???

[midwaybear]

it's suspicious that nahdia targetted a dead player because that is easily faked

[midwaybear]

i dont see why me targeting a dead player is any more easy to fake than any living player. hoctac was still a valid target last night.

cuz he flipped, so it is easier to make up something compared to if you targeted a living player

[midwaybear]

didn't realize it was l-1. i wouldn't hammer without a claim. sorry bob :\

voyeur. hoctac was killed by a killing action (lol)

I FEEL VERY COMFORTABLE LYNCHING THIS

i don't

[midwaybear]

it is easy to make up because hoctac was killed
like I can claim tracker and say "hoctac went nowhere" and nobody could cc

[midwaybear]

popo chill with the all caps

[midwaybear]

popo chill with the all caps

if you view the claim as suspicious why are you not comfortable with a lynch?

because they could be truthtelling

[midwaybear]

So I defend someone you think is sus and you vote me
lol

[midwaybear]

VOTE: Norwee

[midwaybear]

norwee's questions are sorta bad

[midwaybear]

yeah, but nobody tracked them to hoctac. I don't like norwee because his questions aren't really helpful towards the discussion

[midwaybear]

Midway is scumming it up so hard right now it's kinda funny.

no u

[midwaybear]

who is VC? I think popo is a "too aggressive town"
pedit: what about norwee? Am I tunneling on him?

[midwaybear]

i am voting you because I don't like the questions you aked

[midwaybear]

Ok I might be tunneling I will reconsider. Just look at ur iso to see ur questions

[midwaybear]

let's bandwagon norwee and nahdia. I agree that we should not quicklynch again though. Let's take our time

[midwaybear]

i dont see why me targeting a dead player is any more easy to fake than any living player. hoctac was still a valid target last night.

cuz he flipped, so it is easier to make up something compared to if you targeted a living player

Do you think Nahdia is making up everything or do you think she targeted Hoctac but is lying about her role?

I dont like this. Why would town nahdia lie about their role? This isn't a good question because it only has one answer.

[midwaybear]

Or are you saying scum!Nahdia intentionally chose to say they targeted Hoctac (One of the deaths) with a worthless night action as mafia?

bruh what kind of question is this too

[midwaybear]

wdym fake? I don't like ur questions, so I am voting you.

[midwaybear]

yeah that's why i said i will reconsider. It's just that those questions don't seem like they help the discussion and are sorta rhetorical.

[midwaybear]

how do I look scummy? I genuinely didn't like your questions, so I called you out for it. Upon reconsideration, I still don't like them at all.
pedit: could say the same to you@norwee

[midwaybear]

ok, so if someone in my scum PT is telling me to push Norwee, why aren't they also pushing?
pedit: bro stop roasting me please

[midwaybear]

no. farside said that my push was fake and that people in my scum pt were coaching me to push you. why wouldn't they push too?

[midwaybear]

i can get behind a popopo wagon for sure.

midway if you dont wanna be roasted dont play like this, 'bro'

why is my push even bad? I don't get it. Also, you aren't that good either no offense

[midwaybear]

what am i supposed to do? It's just a hunch, and the questions you asked were super bad

[midwaybear]

don't play like what? Idk what I am even doing that is bad

[midwaybear]

who are we bandwagoning? I'll do it I guess

[midwaybear]

I legit said I was reconsidering though...
I already gave reasons for your questions being bad:they were sorta rhetorical and everyone ignored them too
@norwee

[midwaybear]

I think the way it is phrased depends on the mod, but don't quote me for this. Also, notice that votato said he suspected norwee but never followed up on it.

[midwaybear]

pretty sure gobble is afk not lurking

[midwaybear]

I don't think I can talk about it because the games are ongoing. Perhaps I'm wrong, but if his lack of activity is the main reason you SR him I would reconsider.

[midwaybear]

i think what i said about Nahdia's claim is pretty reasonable. It's pretty easy to fake as scum.

[midwaybear]

You sold me
VOTE: Nahdia

[midwaybear]

Let the vig handle it

initially I agreed with this, but then I realized that we don't know roles so maf might have some protective role that allows the kill to be redirected to someone else. Lynching is safest

[midwaybear]

you sold me midway. VOTE: midway. L-2

i don't think im L-2

[midwaybear]

let me recount
NOBODY VOTE ME or you will be vigged tonight

[midwaybear]

i'm at L-3...

[midwaybear]

lmao
nahdia literally defended me from pox7's case, and now they are voting me.
comedy

[midwaybear]

isn't that the same with me. Where has your logic went?!

[midwaybear]

If we want to look outside the thunderdome, I like to pressure Aloratom and NDMath. I feel like they both have sorta coasted this game.

[midwaybear]

Bruh it seems like you are chainsaw defending. You don’t defend yourself and then you just vote NDMath. I agree that NDMath has been lurky, and that gives him some scum equity.

[midwaybear]

Got my terms messed up. The point is: I just didn’t like how you immediately pivoted to ndmath

[midwaybear]

I(we?) townread stan1ey because he seemed like he was actually pushing for conversation and pointing out potential issues in peoples posts(D1)
his D2 has sorta been a hardtunnel, but I think that's fine(in terms of not being scummy)

[midwaybear]

norwee, farside, alor are on my radar. Nobody has really jumped out so I think I need to reread.
TBH even you could be scum.

[midwaybear]

i think we should talk about who isn't scum too. I eliminate ABR, pox7, and stan1ey.
So you think farside and norwee can't be scum together?

[midwaybear]

why are we voting stan1ey? Just for the sake of a wagon?

[midwaybear]

that means they are both scum...
farside defended me and norwee attacked me so that is something to consider. Would scum be coordinated or would they try to distance?

[midwaybear]

Honestly, Nahdia's past few posts have pinged as townie to me even though they can't really be considered as contribution. Yes, the hammer yesterday was suspicious, but I think it was a genuine mistake. It can be pretty hard to track votes and people have told me I was at L-1 even when I wasn't. This brings us to their roleclaim of voyuer. I think this is the most suspicious part about Nahdia because I think the claim is easily faked. I agree that Hoctac was a viable target, but not by a voyeur. Hoctac's behavior was pretty weird, so I would be more interested in seeing what he did instead of what happened to him. Their read progression seems pretty natural too. I just want to know why you target hoctac?

[midwaybear]

Let me just try to guess the scum team for bragging rights later.
Strong gutread, but i'm assuming it's 4 scum and if Nahdia is scum then it's made out of Nahdia/Votato/NDmath/Midwaybear.

why votato? because he shaded you but never followed up on it?

[midwaybear]

can you expand on the bad reads part? I am intrigued. I doubt there are multiple factions, so it makes sense there is a vig.

[midwaybear]

if nahdia was town and true claiming a PR how would scum not have pushed the wagon through already? especially with a presumably large scumteam like in this 16p game. the fact that the lynch hasn't gone through despite how easy it would be for scum tells me its not a mislynch.

what if the whole scumteam is on the wagon

[midwaybear]

it's more of his top 4 scumreads than associations
if we were scum together, that would be funny

[midwaybear]

so funny that i'd replace out

[midwaybear]

L-1

[midwaybear]

UNVOTE: Nahdia
not anymore

[midwaybear]

who roasted who?

[midwaybear]

Oh boy
Votato you are not looking good with a red flip

[midwaybear]

Tbh, I think this was the right choice scum or not

[midwaybear]

Now, the game will move away from nahdia just not in the way you wanted

[midwaybear]

im going to get a lot of sadistic pleasure out of lynching midway

Why would you lynch your scumbuddy

[midwaybear]

That was a joke fyi

[midwaybear]

Just pressure after the flip then. It's not that big of a difference as far as I know.

[midwaybear]

not really because the main reason I am scummy is because I defended Nahdia

[midwaybear]

Ok i am definitely feeling a lynch on Midway over Votato when we get the chance.

did you ever feel votato over me?

[midwaybear]

sweet release

shoot i was wrong?
are you scum?

[midwaybear]

thanks
I'm guessing you're town?
idk

[midwaybear]

oh rip my toneread skill

[midwaybear]

no don't vig me
I'm town. I can be helpful

[midwaybear]

should I roleclaim?

[midwaybear]

no answer

[midwaybear]

im not super comfortable with anyone lining up lynches in twilight. lets come back tomorrow with fresh eyes

Agreed. I'm mostly just trolling now. Will re-read the game if i find out i'm alive by tommorow.

im getting vigged, so you'll be fine

[midwaybear]

it's ok

[midwaybear]

no don't vig me
I'm town. I can be helpful

i could be persuaded that you could be town. maybe. but i call bullshit on you being capable of being helpful.

could say the same to you

[midwaybear]

how am I not dead...

[midwaybear]

the difficulty we had getting that lynch through, day 2 is gonna be a great reread. i cant see why scum kill gobble here.

perhaps the mason claim? I don't think it's that, so maybe gobble was on to scum.

[midwaybear]

doesn't standard procedure tell us that ABR is truthtelling? You don't really see mafia fake guilty people.
pedit: none of them were really suspected D1, D2 so I don't think so?

[midwaybear]

yeah votato has a point

[midwaybear]

rolestopper and alien are similar roles

[midwaybear]

Well i fucked up anyway.
Town odd night tracker. Went for Nahdia and was told they targeted Hoptac. That's why i was so suspicious of them at the start of D2.

bruh you didn't need to claim at all

[midwaybear]

i think we have an odd night vig so we can test if stan1ey is telling the truth
pedit: votato already responded to that

[midwaybear]

how does scum know what the PRs did? That's way too OP

[midwaybear]

lol it is pretty funny
idk why he would go so hard to get you lynched as scum though

[midwaybear]

boi there's no 3p and I doubt it's multiball

[midwaybear]

popo
Norwegian
farside
votato
Stanley
word
NDMath
Madonna
Midway

What is this?

Yeah, what was that?

[midwaybear]

aloratom what was the meaning of the list after you L-1 abr

[midwaybear]

VOTE: stan1ey
I'll tie the wagons, so we can analyze what word does.

[midwaybear]

nice hot take

[midwaybear]

dang nice play by albert
stan1ey could be scum trolling us though
odd night vig, you know who to vig

[midwaybear]

I'm not scum either
vig shoots ABR and then we look at him and nahdia interactions

[midwaybear]

let's go odd night vig

[midwaybear]

ok farside was obv town, so I can see why maf killed her. I am going to assume that we have two maf left, and an odd night vig.
I feel comfortable eliminating word from my poe because both ABR and nahdia had weird pushes against him that didn't read like bussing. My gut tells me alor is town too. I want to believe popo is town too.
We lynch in votato, ND, norwee, madonna today. I like this/

[midwaybear]

nd/norwee is not w/w because nd questioned norwee's claim
norwee, what was your night action?
scum might just be {votato, madonna} idk

[midwaybear]

huh the thing about farside being dead by n3 is true lol

[midwaybear]

This town needs strong leadership.

Forget about the weak bob wagon with barely any votes. The madonna wagon is where it's at. Join the resistance!

my fellow town. Is this bussing or not because I can't really tell.

[midwaybear]

Looking at votato's iso, he could definitely be partnered with ABR. He was defending ABR D3, and the other interactions are all pretty weird beside that. There's no clear non-associatives, so votato cannot be removed from today's POE.

[midwaybear]

Dude what was your night action

[midwaybear]

ok, I'm fine with lynching in {alor, ND, votato}
I don't think ABR is a busser, so that helps Madonna. I'll trust Norwee for now, and I'm decently confident in word being town.

[midwaybear]

Dude what was your night action

why, are you claiming a result on me? people have asked you to claim

no norwee

[midwaybear]

ok, I'm fine with lynching in {alor, ND, votato}
I don't think ABR is a busser, so that helps Madonna. I'll trust Norwee for now, and I'm decently confident in word being town.

Are you just throwing up every combination you can think of?

so defensive.

[midwaybear]

no, my claim is not beneficial to town IMO
massclaim doesn't help because the two scum are in my poe
pedit: VOTE: Aloratom
he's desperate. Thunderdome?

[midwaybear]

the scum are discussing in their PT what to do
probably votato+aloratom

[midwaybear]

Midway, i'm telling you to claim first.

why does my claim affect your result...
I can think of a reason, but that would mean you are scum. I'll just leave it at that

[midwaybear]

How am i supposed to trust you when i'm faced with that attitude?

not attitude. I'll be blunt: did you track me somewhere?

[midwaybear]

ok, I'm a VT, so...

[midwaybear]

The plan was for you to claim VT, i would confirm you didn't do anything. And we'd all be a big happy family. But of course you didn't do that.

i did though
I'm conf town now I believe

[midwaybear]

I thought you tracked me somewhere, but since I am VT, you would be lying. I didn't think you were doing that. I guess I can trust you, but the one thing is: you said that AFTER I claimed VT
pedit: huh why

[midwaybear]

Meaning if you are scum you would know it was safe for you to claim VT.

makes no sense

[midwaybear]

@Midway
I'm still not sure about voting you since Votato and Aloratom are both eager to do so. But it is pretty annoying how you forced me to out my plan when everyone thinks you are a whole lot more scummy than me.

i claimed VT BEFORE you outed your plan just after you said you targetted me

[midwaybear]

votato+aloratom? I don't like alor's unvote because to a skeptical town, I could be a mafia goon who did not do the factional kill...
votato, you should claim

[midwaybear]

intent to hammer is given
also, i think alor is scummier than votato

[midwaybear]

Midway, i'm telling you to claim first.

why does my claim affect your result...
I can think of a reason, but that would mean you are scum. I'll just leave it at that

What were you getting at here?

I already explained it, but I'll do it again. I thought Norwee had tracked me somewhere because he was telling me to claim and stuff. FMPOV, he was lying because there's no way I could have gone anywhere tonight. And then he explained that he tracked me nowhere and it was all a test. However, I don't really like that he said this after I claimed VT. Whatever

[midwaybear]

VOTE: votato

I worked so hard to get my post out and forgot to vote. See you after work and chores.

Aloratom, I hear your spitball defense.

midwaybear, is there anyone town you read? Because yeah, you need to find scum, but not everyone can be scum.

Townread: Norwegian, popo, word, you
VOTE: Votato

[midwaybear]

NDMath, you’re claiming first :evilgrin:

[midwaybear]

Votato is high key scummy. He even told the vig to shoot Madonna

[midwaybear]

Definitely possible. Well have to wait for votato’s claim though because he said it’s semi confirmable.

[midwaybear]

Just claim, you’re the scummiest player on the board.

[midwaybear]

So basically you want to draw out other people’s claims? Idk man. Not sure I really like this.

[midwaybear]

I’ll trust nd here. If he’s town, he knows what he is doing.
Hmm doesn’t seem like he is scum with votato which supports the votato alor theory.

[midwaybear]

His attitude about lynching Nahdia seemed townie, then again, it could have been a hard bus. I don’t think so though.
NDMath is experienced, so he should know how to fully utilize massclaim. This isn’t the only site he has playeed

[midwaybear]

Fair enough
But if you are town, nothing to fear

[midwaybear]

i wonder what ND's information was. I think alor is a better hang, but tbh you can't really trust breadcrumbs. If votato is telling the truth, we can jail a poe player tonight which is good

[midwaybear]

ascetic

not really because they can still get hanged

[midwaybear]

the tracker role doesnt reallllly fit with the other town PRs

Do you actually believe i legitimately faked that epic fail slip-up back there?

that wasn't a slip. That was a weird claim that was completely unnecessary

[midwaybear]

well NDmath said he has INFO, so that would sure help

[midwaybear]

I needed authority so votato and the gang couldn't force me to claim first.

quote of the year
pedit: uhhh

[midwaybear]

I guess votato is conf town due to the madonna protect. I think we can safely say that all of our PRs+popo+me are town. That leaves alor, word, and madonna. This is good?

[midwaybear]

wait I though popo was the one who first pushed nahdia(he even ended d1 with his vote on nahdia)
there's very very little chance he is scum

[midwaybear]

A and B should be word and madonna in some order

[midwaybear]

word and alor