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[Persivul]

Firebringer, sakura, norwegian...WTF, get lives. 43 pages over a weekend is ridiculous. It's going to take me awhile to catch up on this.

[Persivul]

I feel like we've got a good townblock but the Drew wagon is scummy.

Who's the town bloc?

[Persivul]

I didn't read anything, and as far as I was concerned I townread drew, but let's get this party rolling baby!

VOTE: drew

L-1

We're going head first into a mislynch and I sure like it. Let me read drew wagon, if he doesn't get hammered by then and I am not convinced, I'll remove my vote. Just claim first is all please.

Did I miss the memo? Is overt scumminess now acceptable? I'd vote this but I don't know where the VC is.

[Persivul]

I have no idea. I lost the game at page 30, no matter how much I reread I can't understand a single fucking thing about your wagons, your reads, your decisions, all of it is just confusing and utter, fucking, bullshit. The wagon on Drew makes no sense, Quick and NPOM are wagon-hopping like crazy for no fucking reason, Firebringer is still being a clown that has no actual reads, Porkens randomly changed their vote to Norwegian. Everybody is posting fucking garbage walls of text point by point for deep shit analysis regarding why this one line definitely confirms a person as scum, scum is probably manipulating the game as easily as can be, you guys have no actual wagons or reads for yourselves besides random OMGUS garbage and wagons that come and go every two pages. Absolute fucking circus, what's one shit vote going to do? I don't understand anything, the game is too confusing and none of you have any clear posts regarding your reads or why you read a specific person as a certain alignment, it's all 'oh your argument is garbage kid I'll vote you only scum makes terrible arguments like that against me!!!!'. My reads are garbage too, why does it matter if I start random voting if it's the same result either way?

I generally don't toss out early town reads, but this is highly likely to be town.

[Persivul]

I have no idea. I lost the game at page 30, no matter how much I reread I can't understand a single fucking thing about your wagons, your reads, your decisions, all of it is just confusing and utter, fucking, bullshit. The wagon on Drew makes no sense, Quick and NPOM are wagon-hopping like crazy for no fucking reason, Firebringer is still being a clown that has no actual reads, Porkens randomly changed their vote to Norwegian. Everybody is posting fucking garbage walls of text point by point for deep shit analysis regarding why this one line definitely confirms a person as scum, scum is probably manipulating the game as easily as can be, you guys have no actual wagons or reads for yourselves besides random OMGUS garbage and wagons that come and go every two pages. Absolute fucking circus, what's one shit vote going to do? I don't understand anything, the game is too confusing and none of you have any clear posts regarding your reads or why you read a specific person as a certain alignment, it's all 'oh your argument is garbage kid I'll vote you only scum makes terrible arguments like that against me!!!!'. My reads are garbage too, why does it matter if I start random voting if it's the same result either way?

ur acting like a clown

The game really isn’t that bad. Try to be more mentally stable.

These are:
- mean
- not looking for AI content in the post.

[Persivul]

Mohab post seems fake

What's your main?

[Persivul]

These are:
- mean
- not looking for AI content in the post.

i couldn't make heads or tails if it was scum or town motivated post.

If the announced VCs are correct, you had a person at L-3 freak out , while another person is at L-1.

What's the scum motivation for faking that? Seems to me scum would either announce intent on the other wagon, or go quiet and hope that the other wagon went to lynch.

[Persivul]

the emotions seemed real but its like:

from scum pov:
> frustrated at pace of game unable to keep up.

from town pov:
> frustrated with pace of game unable to keep up.

Its exactly the same.

Difference is that scum don't have to actually solve anything. Town does. Scum can get by on skimming, particularly in the first couple days. Town need to actually read for content, and therefore are much more likely to be frustrated by game pace.

[Persivul]

BTW, I informed mod that I was VLA for 5.22 - 5.25 but it didn't get into the notes.

@mod, please confirm this in thread.

[Persivul]

Someone already said you were V/LA during this time. Any idea who that might be or how they might know?

I announced in another game and had my VLA banner up, so it wasn't secret knowledge. I would guess [redacted due to ongoing game restrictions].

[Persivul]

angling for easy wagon to jump to?

No, I'm suspicious of D1 self-proclaimed town blocs. Aren't you?

[Persivul]

Persivul, what are your actual reads right now?

Mohab town. This is a lazy question.

What's the case on Drew?

[Persivul]

I'm contemplating voting porkins.

Why?

I just ISO'd nopower looking for a case on porkens and got nothing. Can you explain it to me?

p-edit: Quick, can you also explain the porkens case to me?

[Persivul]

What's the case on Drew?

Well i've talked about what has bugged me about Drew in my last few posts.
Don't think they are a "case" per se tho, just my general feelings about the slot.

Yes, I've read your ISO. I want to hear from norwee.

[Persivul]

There is no case on Pokins. People just don't like him. You can praise FB for that brilliant idea.

Yeah, I already saw that. More disturbing IMO is nopower sheeping fire. Any thoughts on nopower, particularly the relationship with fire?

[Persivul]

Although isnt tunnel vision focusing on one player and only one player, igonoring the rest. I think what he's doing would be more akin to confirmation bias than tunnel vision (or are they synonims?)

You'll get differences of opinion, but the wiki entry on tunneling just redirects to confirmation bias.

Note the true confirmation bias is necessarily coming from town. Scum can't confbias themselves into something they already know for certain.

[Persivul]

I've gotten townreads on you and Mohab, i'd say that's far from fencesitting.

Ah I missed this sorry.

I think the scum are near the bottom of the activity list. We kicked up a bit of dust today.

If I were scum I’d be sitting back and letting it hide me.

Yeah this is what I was thinking.

At this point of the game porkens has already picked fights with nopower and sakura. I can see why town does this. Not so much for scum.

[Persivul]

^but then why is he voting for drew and nor?

Are the two things related?

He specifically said he didn't find sakura to be scummy. Maybe he came to the same conclusion regarding nopower. It looks like typical D1 scumhunting to me. Then again, I frequently take some flak for my D1 scumhunting...

[Persivul]

Porkens, what's your take on nopower?

[Persivul]

Townread on mohab melting.

[Persivul]

I would townread it if

there was a reason for it

Firebringer told me to.

FTFY

[Persivul]

VOTE: persivul