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Are you defending blurryface or the jesterclaim?In post 24, NoPowerOverMe wrote:If someone does something scummy on the first page, it's still scummy. Wanting to lynch a claimed jester because we may not find other scum is scummy. Why not just find scum?worse than random- Porkens
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Ok so were you chainsawing for blurryface or the jesterclaim? https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?ti ... aw_DefenseIn post 55, YellowSnow wrote:
Actually I was attacking MohabIn post 51, Porkens wrote:
Are you defending blurryface or the jesterclaim?In post 24, NoPowerOverMe wrote:If someone does something scummy on the first page, it's still scummy. Wanting to lynch a claimed jester because we may not find other scum is scummy. Why not just find scum?worse than random- Porkens
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In post 77, NoPowerOverMe wrote:I am scum reading Mohab. Scummy is as scummy does.
Why is it scummy to make that assumption?In post 79, NoPowerOverMe wrote:That's a pretty scummy assumption .worse than random- Porkens
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What did you think jester is? Why do you think scum would fake claim as jester?In post 78, Mohab500 wrote:I have never played with Jesters in a real mafia site either, and seeing as the only downside is a mislynch, I assumed since everyone here, including me, is a clown, and we're probably going to mislynch anyways, it'd be better to get rid of a Jester if we don't have any better leads. But go off I guess, town.worse than random- Porkens
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Whhhaaaat prompted you to claim, exactly?In post 117, NoPowerOverMe wrote:I claim vanilla town let's get on with Mohab.worse than random- Porkens
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Sure! Read on.In post 183, NoPowerOverMe wrote:Any other hot takes?
I can definitely see that.In post 184, Quick wrote:
This is the sort of thing I consider for SvS, FTR.In post 182, Sakura Hana wrote:
How very observant of you.In post 181, Porkens wrote:My hot take is that Sakura, despite being second highest in activity, has not scumhunted at all.
Quite defensive, still not scumhunting.In post 186, Sakura Hana wrote:Oh hey, that's 2 soft shades already, any more takers?
Deflection. (Partner?)In post 187, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
That’s interesting. I was classifying them using an entirely different instrument of measurement. Namely the towniness of the slots depend entirely on which one looks the least like a disgusting manpig.In post 184, Quick wrote:
This is the sort of thing I consider for SvS, FTR.In post 182, Sakura Hana wrote:
How very observant of you.In post 181, Porkens wrote:My hot take is that Sakura, despite being second highest in activity, has not scumhunted at all.worse than random- Porkens
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Would you?In post 196, Sakura Hana wrote:So I ask you, if I were scum why wouldnt I at least pretend to scumhunt?
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In post 196, Sakura Hana wrote:So I ask you, if I were scum why wouldnt I at least pretend to scumhunt?
These don’t jive. First you imply that you would pretend to scumhunt as scum. Then you claim you’d imitate your tow game by town hunting. Why did you make these contradicting statements?In post 199, Sakura Hana wrote:
There's WIFOM and there's things that make no sense.In post 197, NoPowerOverMe wrote:Wifom much?
So either I'm scum imitating my town game of townhunting over scumhunting, or I'm town.
No matter how much you ask me to hunt for scum in the "normal" way, That's not how I like to play, if you think that's scummy of me then sure go ahead and lynch me, that wont change how I play because I dont have fun playing that way.worse than random- Porkens
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Now you are just trollingIn post 215, Sakura Hana wrote:
First of all, I'm not doing any WIFOM, im just self-metaing to help you read me if you're town.In post 214, NoPowerOverMe wrote:It's not for no reason wifom is generally scummy
Second of all, There's WIFOM done by town to WIFOM scum.worse than random- Porkens
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Aw and here I thought I was your town read.In post 248, Firebringer wrote:i probably should have subbed out when porkens joined.
I really don't want to play with him.
w/e i can lynch him i guess. This is not reads based but i think i will continue voting this as long as i am here.
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I’m not voting for you and haven’t called you scummy, so I’m not sure if what you are omgusingIn post 267, Sakura Hana wrote:You know im just gonna OMGUS this.
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Seems more fun that anything that's happening right now and if Porkens being gone will make FB actually play the game then all the better.worse than random- Porkens
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Ah I missed this sorry.In post 223, Sakura Hana wrote:I've gotten townreads on you and Mohab, i'd say that's far from fencesitting.
I think the scum are near the bottom of the activity list. We kicked up a bit of dust today. If I were scum I’d be sitting back and letting it hide me.worse than random- Porkens
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Why is her point about shading good?In post 323, popopopopopopo wrote:vote:porkens
sakura's point about shading without voting or even FOS is good, and firebringer is probably town.worse than random- Porkens
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I don’t buy this. My “very observant” post about Sakura was scum hunting, and it led to useful discussion Through which we could develop our reads. I factually stated that I did not call her scum. That has no bearing on whether I think she or her actions are scummy. I’m not casting about trying to make people look scummy. I am asking direct questions and stating my thoughts in an effort to further the game state.In post 336, popopopopopopo wrote:
shading people without calling them scummy or voting them does nothing except increase distrust between the town members. the fact that you even said "i never called you scum" after the shading is also very bad.In post 328, Porkens wrote:
Why is her point about shading good?In post 323, popopopopopopo wrote:vote:porkens
sakura's point about shading without voting or even FOS is good, and firebringer is probably town.
Your argument seems disingenuous to me.worse than random- Porkens
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What I did was point out that Sakura was not scumhunting. If that’s tantamount to an FOS, so be it. Currently I do not think Sakura is particularity scummy.In post 383, Mohab500 wrote:
I don't understand this. Isn't calling an action scummy more or less synonymous with calling them probable scum? I can see exceptional cases where this isn't the case but I think in a traditional early game like this, what you're saying doesn't make sense.In post 373, Porkens wrote:
I don’t buy this. My “very observant” post about Sakura was scum hunting, and it led to useful discussion Through which we could develop our reads. I factually stated that I did not call her scum. That has no bearing on whether I think she or her actions are scummy. I’m not casting about trying to make people look scummy. I am asking direct questions and stating my thoughts in an effort to further the game state.In post 336, popopopopopopo wrote:
shading people without calling them scummy or voting them does nothing except increase distrust between the town members. the fact that you even said "i never called you scum" after the shading is also very bad.In post 328, Porkens wrote:
Why is her point about shading good?In post 323, popopopopopopo wrote:vote:porkens
sakura's point about shading without voting or even FOS is good, and firebringer is probably town.
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Towny feeling thoIn post 700, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
Reads change over time. Novel concept i know.In post 698, CooLDoG wrote:Why did you say that the two of them (sakura/monab) are scummy, but then you go onto vote on the same wagon that one of them is on?
I'm town on Mohab right now, unlike you i liked their reads list.
Sakura i believe to be town if Firebringer is scum. And that's my current belief. I'd quote my case on him, but you hate meta so whatever.worse than random- Porkens
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This is scum.In post 791, Drew-Sta wrote:Alright. It's Monday morning, I don't have meetings for two hours, and I have coffee.
We're at 32 pages. My reading from 23 to 32 showed Cooldog come into the scene. I think the thing he stated about meta just makes my heart sing so happy about that. Nevertheless there's a few things I am keen to go back and read through so in the process of going 1-32 now.
I will be more active from here on in.
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I’m shookIn post 794, Quick wrote:
Solid gold is actually quite malleable.In post 793, Porkens wrote:
This is scum.In post 791, Drew-Sta wrote:Alright. It's Monday morning, I don't have meetings for two hours, and I have coffee.
We're at 32 pages. My reading from 23 to 32 showed Cooldog come into the scene. I think the thing he stated about meta just makes my heart sing so happy about that. Nevertheless there's a few things I am keen to go back and read through so in the process of going 1-32 now.
I will be more active from here on in.
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I don’t have a strong scum vibe from quick but he’s not screaming town either.In post 800, Fredrick A Campbell wrote:
Porkens, what do you think now?In post 567, Fredrick A Campbell wrote:UNVOTE: Quick
What do you think now?In post 550, Porkens wrote:Quick could be scum...something’s making me hesitate though so it’s not strongworse than random- Porkens
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It’s a classic noncommittal oh I better post so it doesn’t look like I’m lurking what can I say that doesn’t vomit me in any way oh I know I’ll promis more later kinda postIn post 812, CooLDoG wrote:
I think Drew could be scum. Still doesn't seem like they are fully caught up, so I am waiting on that. They have no mention of scum reads, and they haven't expressed that they are taking the "find townie" strategy either.In post 793, Porkens wrote:
This is scum.In post 791, Drew-Sta wrote:Alright. It's Monday morning, I don't have meetings for two hours, and I have coffee.
We're at 32 pages. My reading from 23 to 32 showed Cooldog come into the scene. I think the thing he stated about meta just makes my heart sing so happy about that. Nevertheless there's a few things I am keen to go back and read through so in the process of going 1-32 now.
I will be more active from here on in.
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this postIn post 903, Fredrick A Campbell wrote:
Since you've been claiming to be scum, I'll just treat you as such.In post 899, Firebringer wrote:
at least u didn't ask me if i was town. I would have had to say no, otherwise my honesty streak ends.In post 898, Fredrick A Campbell wrote:
That's true. Unfortunately, I have no idea what I could possibly ask that will help me determine your alignment.In post 895, Firebringer wrote:u could always ask me questions
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as scum, reading the game is a choreIn post 846, Firebringer wrote:
whats this meanIn post 843, Porkens wrote:It leaves me with the fact that you are still scum trying to look town by reading the game and telling us what you think we think you should think.
there's no mystery so it's a bore
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Hurtful, what did I miss. I am definitely running at like 45% prob should just quit for the dayIn post 1116, Quick wrote:
Thanks for not reading and acting like you have a mental handicap.In post 1115, Porkens wrote:Don’t worry too much loan. Here, let’s just take a step back to where we were
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I kinda thought the opositeIn post 1208, Sakura Hana wrote:
I've yet to see a post like what Mohad did made by scum, much less with such emotion, I know scum COULD do those things, but is that what's happening here? In theory a perfect scum player is capable of faking anything, I can tell that at the very least the emotion isnt faked, and considering Mohab's drop in activity and then his complaints about how confusing the game seems looks more like a towny that's struggling to scumhunt than scum that's trying to pretend being confused. Probably because i've had moments like those way back when i was a beginner I can imagine how Mohab's confusion came to be.In post 1207, Fredrick A Campbell wrote:What you read as town I read as null because I could imagine scum doing these exact things.
As for Firebringer is more of the fact that we know each other well, and while i usually have a hard time getting a definite read on FB, he's perfectly capable of abusing my weaknesses in order to pocket me, if he was scum, he'd have resorted to that much sooner than when he did.worse than random- Porkens
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Quite possible but that’s how I feltIn post 1170, Firebringer wrote:like go through porkens posts on sakura early. He pushes sakura on a few things. It wasn't "ohh i scumread u" but it was enough to warrant like "i am worried about what u are doing". Then when sakura gets defensive he goes "Ohhh I am not even scumreading u though". When it is painfully obvious he is suspicious at least from his posts. Then eventually it just goes to townread. Its like bad.worse than random- Porkens
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In post 1236, Porkens wrote:The problem with drew is I’ve skimmed his iso twice and I still have no clue who he thinks is scummy. This is the burr that I feel when I run my mind over him. I have real feelings about norwuigie but I’m not sure exactly what they are. Yeah.
Like it’s cool that you dig arguing minutiae with everyone but do you have a readslist?In post 1233, Drew-Sta wrote:All this is from Cooldog at various points. Due to his quoting and my shit skills at posting, I'm just breaking it down.
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I actually think he's town. He comes in and blasts just about everyone except Pers, who simply hasn't posted yet. If he's scum, he's better than the rest of us and I will gladly celebrate his victory with him.
I think the problem people have with him is his grammar, and also that he comes in and has knocked around a few kids who think they're too cool for school - and they don't like that.
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Even though you TR him?In post 1314, NorwegianboyEE wrote:@Sakura
Was saying that i think Drew-Sta is scummier than Porkens so i'm keeping my vote there.worse than random- Porkens
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OhhhhhhhIn post 1316, Firebringer wrote:i think he was saying he had townreads who were on both wagonsworse than random- Porkens
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Quick, drewsta, Mohab?In post 1322, Quick wrote:
Yeah, you might want to look at how Drew entered the thread to see how he would play as a whole. I get no Scum vibes from him - his narrative has been pretty damn consistent all things considered. He is WAY down the list of people who I would like to see pressure on rn.In post 1321, Sakura Hana wrote:At this point im not sure if Drew-sta is misrepresenting things on purpose or just flat out stubborn, which actually means i made a mistake in my previous assesment of what made me townread him.worse than random- Porkens
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Lemme ask you this. Are his posts excusably bad or do they add value from a town perspective?In post 1361, Quick wrote:
Because the case against him is fucking retarded.In post 1359, Porkens wrote:Why are you his lawyer?worse than random- Porkens
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“Never called you scummy”In post 1367, Sakura Hana wrote:The case on Porkens is that he called me out for not scumhunting, and kept "attacking" me (put into quote marks for a reason and you'll see why soon), and so I decide to OMGUS vote him, and he counters with "I never voted you nor scumread you". And some awkward vote patterns.
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Do you think scumquick does all this for towndrew?In post 1412, CooLDoG wrote:Very, very happy with my vote.worse than random - Porkens
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