Mini 2144: Yu-Gi-Oh Card UPick Game Over - Good Cards Win.

Jake The Wolfie · Post Post #106 (isolation #0) » Mon May 25, 2020 10:43 pm

I want to vote virgo out just for their PostRestriction (I assume.)

Jake The Wolfie · Post Post #108 (isolation #1) » Tue May 26, 2020 12:19 am

In post 107, JacksonVirgo wrote:
In post 106, Jake The Wolfie wrote:I want to vote virgo out just for their PostRestriction (I assume.)

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Jake The Wolfie · Post Post #111 (isolation #2) » Tue May 26, 2020 1:10 am

In post 110, Alduskkel wrote:VOTE: Jake the Wolfie

one heckin bad boy

woof

Don't try and gamble with me.

You'll always lose

Jake The Wolfie · Post Post #115 (isolation #3) » Tue May 26, 2020 2:13 am

I don't think a PR is AI.

Jake The Wolfie · Post Post #142 (isolation #4) » Tue May 26, 2020 2:53 pm

In post 139, Porkens wrote:
In post 138, Elsa Jay wrote:Little piggy, give me my fortune. What is my fate this game?
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Forced to draw
From an empty deck
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oink

An empty deck just contains negative cards. Humans are unable to comprehend these negatives, so purposefully harm themselves in a bid of enviromentalism.

Jake The Wolfie · Post Post #304 (isolation #5) » Thu May 28, 2020 11:31 pm

In post 301, JacksonVirgo wrote:
In post 298, Elsa Jay wrote:Don't bother with Espionage. With a restriction like that, they gotta be town. Not like anyone can understand them anyway. It's more like a semi useless innocent child.

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If it's real, it's NAI.
If it's fake, then it's scum AI.

Jake The Wolfie · Post Post #314 (isolation #6) » Fri May 29, 2020 7:37 am

In post 310, Espeonage wrote:

Wolf Queen?

AHWIL?

Jake The Wolfie · Post Post #316 (isolation #7) » Fri May 29, 2020 7:37 am

In post 312, Elsa Jay wrote:A wolf is trying to attack the ice Queen? So your saying I'm being pushed by scum, right Espeonage? Yeah, probably.

Thanks for the concern. I will protect you however I can.

I would

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unintentionally harm you!

Jake The Wolfie · Post Post #317 (isolation #8) » Fri May 29, 2020 7:38 am

In post 315, acryon wrote:Looking at Jake again, the only two posts of any actual substance are 115 and 304 which are basically both just Mafia theory. Feels a bit like trying to pepper in stuff that sounds town without actually doing anything.

Feel free to prove me wrong though.

VOTE: Jake

The post directly before yours trying to decifer Espeonage's Espionage.

Jake The Wolfie · Post Post #319 (isolation #9) » Fri May 29, 2020 7:42 am

In post 318, acryon wrote:
In post 317, Jake The Wolfie wrote:
In post 315, acryon wrote:Looking at Jake again, the only two posts of any actual substance are 115 and 304 which are basically both just Mafia theory. Feels a bit like trying to pepper in stuff that sounds town without actually doing anything.

Feel free to prove me wrong though.

VOTE: Jake
The post directly before yours trying to decifer Espeonage's Espionage.
Ok but that's not even scumhunting. You're just trying to translate? That is actually another example of what I described: behavior that appears town but isn't taking any kind of stance.

Why make your own reads when you can be helpful in deciphering other people?

Tbh I'm not really attached to this game rn.

Jake The Wolfie · Post Post #321 (isolation #10) » Fri May 29, 2020 8:28 am

In post 320, acryon wrote:
In post 319, Jake The Wolfie wrote:Why make your own reads when you can be helpful in deciphering other people?

Tbh I'm not really attached to this game rn.

*Insert me dressing up as a clown here*

Jake The Wolfie · Post Post #324 (isolation #11) » Fri May 29, 2020 11:00 am

In post 322, acryon wrote:
In post 321, Jake The Wolfie wrote:
In post 320, acryon wrote:
In post 319, Jake The Wolfie wrote:Why make your own reads when you can be helpful in deciphering other people?

Tbh I'm not really attached to this game rn.

*Insert me dressing up as a clown here*
Gun to your head, who is scum?

@mod
V/LA until Monday morning CDT.

You.

Jake The Wolfie · Post Post #343 (isolation #12) » Sat May 30, 2020 12:26 am

I would advise you not lynching me. You will lynch town that way. Unless you wanna take that gamble.

Jake The Wolfie · Post Post #345 (isolation #13) » Sat May 30, 2020 5:25 am

In post 344, JacksonVirgo wrote:
In post 343, Jake The Wolfie wrote:I would advise you not lynching me. You will lynch town that way. Unless you wanna take that gamble.

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Jake from state farm would never betray you, because he's like a good neighbor.

Jake The Wolfie · Post Post #354 (isolation #14) » Sat May 30, 2020 8:10 am

Luckvig: Crimson97

Jake The Wolfie · Post Post #366 (isolation #15) » Sat May 30, 2020 10:36 am

In post 359, Elsa Jay wrote:By Seth I think you mean Soul? And yeah. Cuz until the Mod says your dead you can post.

Besides, could be fake. It's a Mini Theme. Probably is. Dayvig seems 97% a Large Game only theme.

This is rather scummy of you, to unravel a reaction test of mine.

Jake The Wolfie · Post Post #393 (isolation #16) » Sat May 30, 2020 6:05 pm

@mod how many time before EoD?

Jake The Wolfie · Post Post #414 (isolation #17) » Sun May 31, 2020 11:26 pm

I was gone for a full day and practically nothing happened smh.

Jake The Wolfie · Post Post #416 (isolation #18) » Sun May 31, 2020 11:34 pm

In post 415, Elsa Jay wrote:Why are you guys trying so hard to get rid of me anyway? Seems a little much.

Translator bad

Jake The Wolfie · Post Post #647 (isolation #19) » Fri Jun 05, 2020 1:55 pm

Why isn't Jackson following tbeir pirsmatic post restriction?

Jake The Wolfie · Post Post #648 (isolation #20) » Fri Jun 05, 2020 1:58 pm

I have great interest in seeing either jjh927 or Elsa Jay lynched today.

Jake The Wolfie · Post Post #649 (isolation #21) » Fri Jun 05, 2020 2:00 pm

In post 647, Jake The Wolfie wrote:Why isn't Jackson following their prismatic post restriction?

fixed.

Jake The Wolfie · Post Post #653 (isolation #22) » Fri Jun 05, 2020 2:57 pm

I recieved a message last night telling me that one of Elsa and Jjh is a good card, and the other is not. I have reason to suspect that this is not coming from the scum faction, but instead from the result of another players action.

Jake The Wolfie · Post Post #655 (isolation #23) » Fri Jun 05, 2020 2:58 pm

I am 100% sure that one of Elsa and jjh is not town. They may be a neutral, but they are not both town.

Jake The Wolfie · Post Post #657 (isolation #24) » Fri Jun 05, 2020 2:59 pm

In post 656, Elsa Jay wrote:
In post 653, Jake The Wolfie wrote:I recieved a message last night telling me that one of Elsa and Jjh is a good card, and the other is not. I have reason to suspect that this is not coming from the scum faction, but instead from the result of another players action.
...?

Is this a part of your role, a message from another player, or what?

It is a blend of my role and interactions from other players.

Jake The Wolfie · Post Post #659 (isolation #25) » Fri Jun 05, 2020 3:01 pm

In post 658, jjh927 wrote:I don't think even TSE puts two parity cops in one game

It's not a parity cop, I can definitely confirm that.

Jake The Wolfie · Post Post #661 (isolation #26) » Fri Jun 05, 2020 3:05 pm

In post 660, jjh927 wrote:That's what a parity cop result looks like

Based on how my role works, I know that at least one of jjh927 is town and Elsa Jay is town is 100% false. It was not a parity cop check, it was two seperate checks.

Jake The Wolfie · Post Post #664 (isolation #27) » Fri Jun 05, 2020 3:07 pm

In post 662, Alduskkel wrote:How do you have two checks already? Woof

I have no godly idea, man. Maybe TSE likes me or whatever.

Jake The Wolfie · Post Post #665 (isolation #28) » Fri Jun 05, 2020 3:10 pm

In post 663, Elsa Jay wrote:Be clear and state your card and actual role then if your gung ho on this then.

I am Gamble.

Each night I recieve 2 players with one statement of alignment on them (to paraphrase: X is neutral, y is scum, or z is town.)
One is guarenteed to be true, while the other is false.
They always appear in the same order (either true/false or false/true) depending on what the day parity it is (odd or even).
I cannot choose who I investigate, it is rand.

Jake The Wolfie · Post Post #666 (isolation #29) » Fri Jun 05, 2020 3:13 pm

I lied a bit in previous posts, because I did not want scum to think I was such a big deal, but since you guys oh so graciously want PRs to out or else their information is invalid, here you go.

Jake The Wolfie · Post Post #668 (isolation #30) » Fri Jun 05, 2020 3:19 pm

In post 667, Elsa Jay wrote:... Hmm. Do you have a wiki link to a similar role or something? Sounds like Psychic from ToS slightly, but I wanna know the detsils of it.

I paraphrased a fuck ton there, but it doesn't look like any role I've seen.

Jake The Wolfie · Post Post #670 (isolation #31) » Fri Jun 05, 2020 3:26 pm

In post 669, Elsa Jay wrote:So you have no way of choosing the targets? Would it have been affected by Jackson swapping me and him?

I'm really trying to understand here.

It can't be affected by any swappy doos or resirsxtions, because it's non-targetting.

Jake The Wolfie · Post Post #671 (isolation #32) » Fri Jun 05, 2020 3:29 pm

In post 670, Jake The Wolfie wrote:
In post 669, Elsa Jay wrote:So you have no way of choosing the targets? Would it have been affected by Jackson swapping me and him?

I'm really trying to understand here.
It can't be affected by any swappy doos or redirections, because it's non-targetting.

i can spel gud

Jake The Wolfie · Post Post #682 (isolation #33) » Sat Jun 06, 2020 1:03 am

In post 680, Shireen Baratheon wrote:VOTE: Jake

Hi. *waves*

This unnanounced L-1 tho.

VOTE: jjh

Jake The Wolfie · Post Post #684 (isolation #34) » Sat Jun 06, 2020 5:14 am

In post 683, Elsa Jay wrote:I still wanted to solve the other six quieter slots instead of gang up on jjh immediately, but okay.

I mean, to your PoV either jjh is scum or I am scum, because you know you're town and since I said some things, that puts me in a duel with jjh

Jake The Wolfie · Post Post #686 (isolation #35) » Sat Jun 06, 2020 7:31 am

In post 685, Elsa Jay wrote:Well duh, but like I said, I wanna solve other people today too. And I had the thought of you being a lyncher for a second but considering your newish I doubt you could fake your role.

Please look into other people for now though.

I want to know what makes you think I could be a lyncher?

Jake The Wolfie · Post Post #691 (isolation #36) » Sat Jun 06, 2020 8:38 am

In post 689, jjh927 wrote:Yeah no that's a fakeclaim

That's basically a second parity cop
except it would have no player agency

It could have been entirely in the realm of possibilities to have gotten one of the other combos (T/S, S/S, S/N, N/T, and their reversals.)
I am not a parity cop.

Jake The Wolfie · Post Post #693 (isolation #37) » Sat Jun 06, 2020 8:44 am

TOWN:
Jake the Wolfie
Crimson97 (Flipped town, highly unlikely for an altered lynch)
Elsa Jay (Town in Parity)
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Porkens
Espeonage
acryon
Socrates
Oronoko
Alduskkel
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Shireen Baratheon (Unnanouncedly put me at L-1)
JacksonVirgo (Faking a PR to be "hip" or "cool" is anti-town behavior.)
jjh927 (Scum in parity)
:SCUM

OTHER:
beeboy (Flipped SK)

Jake The Wolfie · Post Post #695 (isolation #38) » Sat Jun 06, 2020 8:46 am

In post 692, jjh927 wrote:No, that's still a parity cop

T/S = both players have the same alignment
T/T = both players have different alignments
S/S = both players have different alignments

N/anything = the neutral is extremely likely to be the lie

"Scum" doesn't just reffer to the scum faction/factions (my mod-clarified rolecard hints at there being many.) I'm pretty sure the SK that flipped would show as "Scum"

Jake The Wolfie · Post Post #697 (isolation #39) » Sat Jun 06, 2020 9:03 am

In post 696, Porkens wrote:
In post 695, Jake The Wolfie wrote:
In post 692, jjh927 wrote:No, that's still a parity cop

T/S = both players have the same alignment
T/T = both players have different alignments
S/S = both players have different alignments

N/anything = the neutral is extremely likely to be the lie
"Scum" doesn't just reffer to the scum faction/factions (my mod-clarified rolecard hints at there being many.) I'm pretty sure the SK that flipped would show as "Scum"
Weeeooooweeeeoooo you calling this multiball bro?

Not nessecarily.

Jake The Wolfie · Post Post #699 (isolation #40) » Sat Jun 06, 2020 9:42 am

In post 698, Porkens wrote:Explain how you are not calling multiball ?

I could be misinterpreting.

Jake The Wolfie · Post Post #705 (isolation #41) » Sat Jun 06, 2020 10:37 am

In post 700, Porkens wrote:Hey someone fact checking me here but I think RC or some other good at this game kinda person said scum start talking multiball ,ore often than town

That would point to you being scum. I mentioned it in passing, but you're the one who outright started talking about it without being prompted.

Jake The Wolfie · Post Post #709 (isolation #42) » Sat Jun 06, 2020 12:06 pm

In post 708, Porkens wrote:You get ONE statement of alignment on both players but ‘one statement is true and the other is false.” The order depends on even/odd DAYS?

The result you got shows that jjh and Elsa are different how?
How do you know it can’t be redirected?

1) Yes. It could be that it's always the same order, but the order is always consistent with the day parity number

2) I essentially recieved that they are both town, but my role PM says that one of these is false and the other is true.

3) There is nothing to redirect. It pretty much says that it's randed independantly from other actions. It would also make sense that it can't be redirected, else we could try and force an outcome using PR magic and essentially play via "Follow the Cop".

Jake The Wolfie · Post Post #713 (isolation #43) » Sat Jun 06, 2020 2:26 pm

In post 711, JacksonVirgo wrote:
In post 684, Jake The Wolfie wrote:
In post 683, Elsa Jay wrote:I still wanted to solve the other six quieter slots instead of gang up on jjh immediately, but okay.
I mean, to your PoV either jjh is scum or I am scum, because you know you're town and since I said some things, that puts me in a duel with jjh
Or you're fake

s.. soo... I am.....

SCUM???

What a careless oversight by me that I'll never recover from!

Jake The Wolfie · Post Post #714 (isolation #44) » Sat Jun 06, 2020 2:29 pm

In post 710, Porkens wrote:what do you mean essentially?

You send the action at Night, right? so which DAY does the order depend on?

I am not going to send you a screenshot of what I recieved exactly. I am sorry if this is breaking news to you.

I do nothing. It is passive.
On odd days, the order in which they are arranged is X. On even days, the order in which they are arranged is Y. X can equal Y. The possible values for X and Y are either The first is True and the second is False, or The first is False and the second is True.

Jake The Wolfie · Post Post #718 (isolation #45) » Sat Jun 06, 2020 4:18 pm

In post 717, Elsa Jay wrote:It seems like a weird person to get though. Particularly using me as a counter choice.

Jake obviously read the discussion beforehand. If he was scum he would've cut his losses and got someone besides JJH and me.

If I was scum, I wouldn't have made a bold-ass move of announcing a thunderdome, attracting much attention to myself,

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forcing myself into a claim D2.

Jake The Wolfie · Post Post #719 (isolation #46) » Sat Jun 06, 2020 4:26 pm

Also I haven't read shit this game.

Jake The Wolfie · Post Post #750 (isolation #47) » Sun Jun 07, 2020 1:06 pm

In post 747, Elsa Jay wrote:VOTE: Jake

Havinf them both at l1 is more fun. So. There.

This is weird though.

Why would you, as town, want 2 people at L-1? That just gives scum the oppertunity to hammer one or the other and get away with it.

Jake The Wolfie · Post Post #752 (isolation #48) » Sun Jun 07, 2020 1:32 pm

In post 751, Elsa Jay wrote:Because if this is you being scum and getting jjh hung as town then we get you next. If jjh flips town after confirming I'm a Parity Cop, then we know your lying. Similarly if you flip town then we know JJH is scum and hang him tommorow.

So basically you're giving scum the chance to mislynch one town, 100% of the time.

Jake The Wolfie · Post Post #760 (isolation #49) » Mon Jun 08, 2020 12:40 am

In post 759, jjh927 wrote:Wait why is Jake butting heads with Elsa at all

Elsa should be conftown from Jake's POV

How so? Exactly one of you or Elsa is scum.

Jake The Wolfie · Post Post #775 (isolation #50) » Mon Jun 08, 2020 6:43 am

In post 764, acryon wrote:
In post 735, jjh927 wrote:Ngl if I'm gonna be mislynched in another game, I'll be glad if it's this one

Not gonna fight this very hard
If you're town you should probably fight here.

In post 760, Jake The Wolfie wrote:
In post 759, jjh927 wrote:Wait why is Jake butting heads with Elsa at all

Elsa should be conftown from Jake's POV
How so? Exactly one of you or Elsa is scum.
Agreed with jjh that this feels odd. You know one of A and B are scum. B is saying A is conftown to them. So B has to be scum for you.

I haven't played a ton of role-madness, but it certainly doesn't
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right that a role like Jake's and Elsa's would both exist and be on the same side. And I also don't see jjh as scum here. As Porkens pointed out as well, I'm still not sure why as scum you would ever admit to stealing Elsa's results there.

Jake's play today is very odd to me. Maybe it wouldn't be so different even if he was telling the truth, but it rubs me the wrong way that he basically ignored me yesterday when I pushed him, presumably because he knew there wasn't time for anything to happen to him, but today he seems like he's fighting for his life. And this is such a strong fakeclaim for scum... If we believe him, then we have to follow his lead through a possible two lynches, so as scum he is guaranteeing
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Isn't the optimal play here for us to lynch Jake? If Jake is lying and we follow him, we risk two mislynches. If he is telling the truth and we lynch him, then he is the only mislynch, because jjh is confscum.

You have to choose between whether I am lying or telling the truth. However, lynching me is never the play here, as if yiu are wrong and I am town, you lose one of the most powerful roles on the board right now.