Mini 2144: Yu-Gi-Oh Card UPick Game Over - Good Cards Win.

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VOTE: Porkens

I see your gambit buddy

VOTE: ffh327

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What are your philosophical thoughts on Jackson's entrance Socrates?

My experience suggests that it falls outside the dichotomy of what mafia and town would post, and is thus an unreliable metric to decide one's alignment upon to any extent.

Do you disagree? Why so?

Ah but there is so much overlap and your model doesn’t allow for the town aligned scum player eithrr

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Please don’t post obscene content to the thread, friend.

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VOTE: JacksonVirgo

Not to be a buzzkill, but I (and I imagine others) have to highlight every one of your posts to actually read parts of it. This is already annoying, so good enough place to start.

I've never played in a game before with post restrictions like people are talking about. Anyone want to give me a run-down of an example? I mean I can see a trend, but what exactly the wording of that kind of thing might look like?

I have a feeling my reads are going to be a mess this game...

VOTE: acryon

For the safest scumvotepark in history.

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Do you say unvolting means it didn’t happen?

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Intriguing
VOTE: oronoko

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I have no reads atm just trying to get thangs moving.

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Little piggy, give me my fortune. What is my fate this game?

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Forced to draw
From an empty deck
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oink

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I like that pig a lot

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oh shit l-6.

Crimson, your iso is real bad

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VOTE: unvote
Oro is posting like town imo

VOTE: crimson
Take a look at crimson iso and then help me put some rope around him.

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All your posts are fluff. You are the definition of active lurking.

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I’ve applied pressure, been on wagons, called out scumminess, etc.

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I find your questions to be at least minimally provocative.

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Which is still more than you have done.

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Same.

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That’s how pressure works

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Your vote on me did prompt to look at your iso, that part is true.

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I wasn’t defending myself, I was attacking you.

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Ridiculous.

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This bro votes flails around as such and that’s your take? Huh not sure I really buy that

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It is when he’s all I know you are but what am I he literally said he was tailoring his defense based not on the facts but on what I said the only conclusion I can draw is you are his printer GAME SOLVED

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VOTE: Acryon

I don’t like this distraction. Don’t love acryon but we need to settle me vs. crimson now, please, if you don’t mind.

[Porkens]

Okay attention everyone:

I ask that you take a look at Crimson and I. To me and a couple others it’s patently obvious that crimson is extremely scummy. He has not made a good faith effort to scum or town hunt in any way. He is skating through the shadows not taking risks and just staying active enough to go unnoticed.

Since my vote on him he has done nothing but try to counterpunch in the most obvious whataboutism and schoolgroundish “I know you are but what am I” and he even fails to be convincing at that.

I’m no paragon of scumhunting or towntelling myself, but I believe an honest comparison of our ISOs reveals a stark difference, and his ONLY defense is that his attacker is no better than him, which isn’t even true.

Please vote to lynch our opponent crimson.

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I’m throwing my hands up here. Anyone who can’t see the blatant self centered scum nature of crimson’s “defense” just doesn’t want to see it.
It is completely irrelevant that he voted me first. What I’ve said about him is all true regardless of that fact, and the comparison is the real distraction.
If there’s a more compelling scum case from or for any player, I’ll hear it but for now I’m here.

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Crimson, it is as though after the Porkens vote, you have solely focused on either Porkens or defense of yourself. Do you not want to learn the alignments of other players on your wagon, or in the game?

I wanted to wait a little to see what opinions people would give without me interfering.

And what have you learnt? Elaborate.

The things you learn from any wagon. Who sides with who, who takes a neutral spot and who decided to not get into the discussion. Also whatever Espeonage is doing. As the game developes these interactions will become more meaningful.

This is town.

No, it’s pointing out the obvious, which may be designed to make YOU nod along and say yep I agree with that so it must be coming from town.

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Agree-ish.

Beeboys posts on the other hand make me suspicious.

Same for acryon, perhaps less acutely

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K peace out y’all let me know if y’all get yo shit together

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Faith in humanity rising

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Nope

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Yeah I feel p good.

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And no I didn’t start the game with any buddies but I feel like I’m making friends now.

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I’ve been a dayvig twice...it’s literally the best.

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Sorry what does that mean?

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Now you are just making shit up.

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Now you are just making shit up.

Prove it.

Quote where I shut down towns discussion.

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I don’t SR Elsa. Oro do you explain somewhere?

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What discussion did that shut down?

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I have absolutely no idea what they think you’ve done that’s scummy. It’s not based on reality

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Your arguments were blatant scum and for people to ignore that was anti town. I shut down nothing.

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VOTE: elsa jay lolhammer.

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Super saint ain’t a yugioh card neither.

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What that sucks VOTE: unvote VOTE: crimson

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No they tricked me, I’m not playing anymore.

Socrates readslist is total crap. You could say similar things about half the player list, including those who have like 4 posts. Elsa has been cool to me and she believed in me when the rest of you didn’t and I think she’s town. Crimson is rediculously scum and Elsa is the only one who sees that. I’m calling two scum in crimson and Socrates right now and those are solid gold locks. LYNCH CRIMSON LUNCH CRIMSON. Come on lurkers DO something with your life!

LONG LIVE THE ICE QUEEN

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Yep I can’t argue with that logic Socrates. But you are spouting nonsense about crimson, and holding her Royal Iceness to a double standard.

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The problem is you are basing your judgments of others on your own biased egocentric construct of reality. You can’t escape your own head, so you are blind to the reality of the universe around you. Also you are just pulling this shit out of your ass.

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Aren't all judgments affected by personal experience and egocentric constructs of reality, and correctly so?
How do you know that your perceived construct of reality is the true reality?

Of course they are! But no not correctly so, as they blind us from truly unbiased judgment. We must remember that we are all blind. The difference between us is that I know I am. Therefore I am empowered to see what you do not

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I need not explain to you that rain is wet, though you claim it dry.

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There you go asking for objectivity again even after admiring its a false concept.

LONG LIVE THE ICE QUEEN

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My frosty highness, do you, in your crystalline wisdom believe Socrates is scum?

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You literally already said you don't believe I'm a Super Saint. Why would you believe I'm Magical Cylinder?

I think rainbow is claiming their card is magical canister or whatever, are you retracting your flavor claim?

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My queen I can’t help but feel slightly manipulated

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It's rather funny that you say my belief is unjustified and objectively false, yet I must not question you because I accept there is no true objectivity.

I’m glad it brings you levity.

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Ah of course, now I see their evil plot it’s plain as day!

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True to the cause then. Rainbow maker I demand you join the side of the righteous and help us string up the crimson one.

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Lolhammer doesn’t care about reads

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Acryon and crimson sitting in a tree s c u m I n g! Seriously watching your parter acryon flair around I a vein attempt to stir up a last minute counter wagon is just a bit pitiful and oh so obvious.

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That’s a scum role.

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Sounds like a hard to lynch roleblocker. Anyway based on play the slot is confsum anywa

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bettlejuice?

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Yeeeeesssss give it to meeee

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Oh WOOF! That is quite the card. I like the visit mechanic, I think it’s a nice balancer.

Good morning my lady, glad to see you unscathed

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Also I don’t have a post restriction that was just for the lulz

Woof must be nice

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Woof why is no one crawling up my ass about crimson?

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Woof I’m as surprised as you are

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Woof VOTE: jake the wolfie
And fos acryon

Pedit what’s a TP? Woof

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Woof it comes with a penalty if I don’t do it

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Woof what do you mean town wolfie what has he got to do with it?

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Woof so you redirect what targets you onto someone else? Can you target other people or just you?

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Woof what do you mean town wolfie what has he got to do with it?

Woof?

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VOTE: Espeonage
Their post restriction just seems to me like an easy way to contribute shit all actual content and be fine. Just seems like an asshole role to get

Woof and shireen?

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Woof he already admitted that yet still posted nothing but garbage memes but u vote espy y?

What makes you think town wolfie gave it to me?

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Why does Jackson think wolfie has anything to do with this restriction? Woof

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Quote it woof

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Woof fine
I’m going to bed
I miss the rainbows.

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So scumhunt.

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FUCK

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Oh look stuffs happening bbl

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VOTE: unvote I’ll read tomorrow

[Porkens]

Don’t like the July ch unless I missed something

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No, that's still a parity cop

T/S = both players have the same alignment
T/T = both players have different alignments
S/S = both players have different alignments

N/anything = the neutral is extremely likely to be the lie

"Scum" doesn't just reffer to the scum faction/factions (my mod-clarified rolecard hints at there being many.) I'm pretty sure the SK that flipped would show as "Scum"

Weeeooooweeeeoooo you calling this multiball bro?

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Explain how you are not calling multiball ?

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Hey someone fact checking me here but I think RC or some other good at this game kinda person said scum start talking multiball ,ore often than town

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I haven’t read in detail what’s the jjh case? Last I understood there would be no reason for jjh to admit to stealing elsa’s result?

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Jj lynch = July ch

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I know you are but what am I?

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Be clear and state your card and actual role then if your gung ho on this then.

I am Gamble.

Each night I recieve 2 players with one statement of alignment on them (to paraphrase: X is neutral, y is scum, or z is town.)
One is guarenteed to be true, while the other is false.
They always appear in the same order (either true/false or false/true) depending on what the day parity it is (odd or even).
I cannot choose who I investigate, it is rand.

Full disclosure I have not been paying attention for the last 25 hours or so just skimming and spot looking.

I do not understand this claim at all.

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You get ONE statement of alignment on both players but ‘one statement is true and the other is false.” The order depends on even/odd DAYS?

The result you got shows that jjh and Elsa are different how?
How do you know it can’t be redirected?

[Porkens]

what do you mean essentially?

You send the action at Night, right? so which DAY does the order depend on?

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ehhhhhhhh I dunno I have to reread later

VOTE: unvote

my gut says the claim is bs but I haven't been reading carefully last few pages. have to be later tho dinner time

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Haven’t really read I keep getting interrupted. I need to look at this game with fresh eyes and will do so tokorrow

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What’s the correct count? I still haven’t been able to reread in depth but feels like we about to make a mistake just gutting

[Porkens]

You're playing pretty optimistically there tbh

You're not gonna be able to mislynch Elsa after I flip
Parity cops aren't scum

Slip!

VOTE: jjh927

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Or wait, no I misunderstood what you were saying sorry

VOTE: unvote. I don’t think it’s either JJ or Jake

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I invited so it shouldn’t count!

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I invited so it shouldn’t count!

Unvoted

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I’m preeeeety sure the mod will be a sweetheart about it no?

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Hey sup why did you claim?

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I’d say something but I don’t want to upset the carefully balanced wifom going o. Here

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Sigh, I’ll believe it when I see it.

So help me understand the interaction, if any, between the transporter and the gambler?

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Ohhhhh Kay I think I get it. So what do you think about this multiball talk?

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Like would gambler be multi all sensitive?

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Did you have a kill last night?

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riddle me this then, IF you shot last night, did you target the 3p last night?

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Oh yeh I forgot that role what is a visiting conditional modifier?

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They didn't. They shot me while Espeonage killed the 3p. But I'm betting the other team has a strongman so I can't heal myself again, which is why Jackson better bus me.

Why do you think jjs team shot?

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So you believe the multiball? It seemed like you didn’t before

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That’s...surprisingly opaque.

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Why be coy about it? I don’t see the town motivation.

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Meanwhile Socrates just pops the fuck in to pretend he hammered and then pretend he wasn’t pretending and adding shit all to the discussion or comment about the multiball idea.

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"we"

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Siiiigh woof

He didn’t even post once in the friend pt

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Quite funny no one realized my vote was already on jjh's wagon... including the moderator himself.

I know but you got to steal my thunder anyway!!! Woof

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I hope you gave us something Elsa or I swear to god I will murder you myself

I know his targets, could be spicy woof

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Woof arcon and Socrates

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Sorry woof

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Sigh. Fine.

Polymerization. Fun abilities. Would rather use them.

I pick 2 people at night and I compare them. If they're both non fusions it succeeds and 'fuse', but if I cross paths with a fusion monster it fails.

Basically I get a "They're the same alignment" or a "they're a different alignment" as my answer.

Woof

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Where the woof is everybody

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Woof

Crimson97

JacksonVirgo
Shireen Baratheon
Elsa Jay

Jake the Wolfie

Espeonage
Porkens
acryon
Socrates
Oronoko

jjh927

beeboy

Alduskkel

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Woof ignore these I guess I dunno

Crimson97

JacksonVirgo

Shireen Baratheon

Elsa Jay

Jake the Wolfie

Espeonage
Porkens
acryon
Socrates
Oronoko

jjh927

beeboy

Alduskkel

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[Porkens]

Woof look at shireens iso

[Porkens]

You are Ojama King
You are part of the Cursed Cards
You are Allies and share a Chat with their other member....

Effect Fusion:
During the night you can perform the Cursed Cards Factional Kill.
The Factional Killing can only be used every other night.

During the day you can choose to reveal
Which will reveal your Flavour Name and make your vote count as 2.

During the night you can choose someone other then yourself And prevent them from being roleblocked, you will also Take their Night Feedback if there is any.

You win when nothing can stop the Cursed Cards from winning.

Woof ot seems likely, this card appears to indicate one partner. And if Elsa isn’t lying then there are fusion monsters too which sound factional.

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Woof it’s bad right?
VOTE: shireen

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Too woof to be woof? No I don’t think so.

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Woof stone man talk good suddenly

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Mornin.

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Mornin. Woof

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I’m gunna cry woof

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VOTE: aldiskkel woof you, seriously.

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Woof he cursed me with this garbage and it’s not a protown thing to do.

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Woof also it’s pissing me off

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VOTE: acryon woof

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Woof I dunno what’s going on

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Woof scum are definitely lurking this is silly. Feels like town is solving and scum is afraid to try.

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I keep thinking "hey this game should be solvable now lets look at the player list..." and then WHAT THE FUCK WHY ARE THERE NO POSTS WITH SO MANY LIVING PLAYERS

woof

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Who scumreads me woof?

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Really woof? I missed that

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VOTE: acryon woof

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Nobody is even here to hammer dang woof

[Porkens]

Elsa Jay
JacksonVirgo
Porkens
Socrates
Alduskkel

acryon

Crimson97
Shireen Baratheon
Espeonage
Oronoko

woof

[Porkens]

Haha “Butt wolves”
Woof

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Woof I think so?

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Ain’t that a hitch woof

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Woof
VOTE: maxwell do tell

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Woof why did you target omoris?

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Woof spicy.

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VOTE: alduskkel. WOOF

dói you by chance want to claim some positive utility to your role?

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Raise the Woof
On odd nights I have to give people the woof restriction.
On even nights I use my tracking hound skills to see who they target.
I also have to follow the woof restriction myself or I get roleblocked.

On night 2 Socrates didn't target anyone.

Why did you choose me rather than someone scummy.

Shireen is in this game woof?

[Porkens]

Woof that makes no sense why would you want to inflict this on someone you townread? It’s a fucking curse woof

[Porkens]

Hehe it is pretty funny woof

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Woof wait do you win when everyone left in the game has to woof?

[Porkens]

JacksonVirgo - reflector
Shireen Baratheon - ???
Elsa Jay - parody cop
Espeonage Maxwell - ambusher
Porkens - neighborizer
Socrates - low post vig
Alduskkel - WOOF giver

[Porkens]

Shireen just got confirmed as town so that seems like a bad proposition. If people want to vote me though they can go ahead.

Woof true but it would prove he could kill every night

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Wellllllll I think there are two scum left, so I’m looking for partners.

The vig could easily be faked. Woof

The tracker woof could be a fake to give cover to the vig claim.

Yup.

If Socrates is vig, let him kill shireen tonight. If he doesn’t we know he can’t kill every night.

Lynch alduskkel today WOOF and tomorrow if Socrates checks out we go maxwel

Whatcha think?

[Porkens]

JacksonVirgo - reflector
Shireen Baratheon - ???
Elsa Jay - parody cop
Espeonage Maxwell - ambusher
Porkens - neighborizer
Socrates - low post vig
Alduskkel - WOOF giver

Woof. I'm a one-way transporter.

And Alduskell is not a WOOF giver... they're a

WOOF!

giver.

Woof whatever I don’t know what it’s called

[Porkens]

Woof I know but can Socrates vig anyone else?

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Woof I thought we did already

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Woof I could doc anyone in my hood

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Woof what really?

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I think letting both scum teams kill every night would have helped a bit?

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Also at least three doctors

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I really liked the flavor, and my role, even if the scum should have had bazookas