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VOTE: bob
I would like to start here
- I disagree with whoever said bob gets towncred for hardpushing Battle Mage. He was only like the 5th person on that wagon, and I can see bob's vote as a bus that came at a time when Battle Mage as a slot might have been going down.
- bob didn't really give a read on BM until someone asked him in 724.
- bob also never interacted directly with the Battle Mage/Porkens slot in spite of his scumread there.- Cat Scratch Fever
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VOTE: bob
I would like to start here
- I disagree with whoever said bob gets towncred for hardpushing Battle Mage. He was only like the 5th person on that wagon, and I can see bob's vote as a bus that came at a time when Battle Mage as a slot might have been going down.
- bob didn't really give a read on BM until someone asked him in 724.
- bob also never interacted directly with the Battle Mage/Porkens slot in spite of his scumread there.- Cat Scratch Fever
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Why is bob town? And why is dunn scum?In post 1669, votato wrote:id prefer no bob vote. out of dunn/bob, dunn is the scum, im quite certain. or im bad at mafia, which is a realistic possibility. i think dunn/mala is the solve and i dont think i want to lynch anywhere else today. i could maybe go for stungun.- Cat Scratch Fever
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I'm pretty much caught up
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NM, GC
Dunn, votato, Mala
HK50, DrP -- null
Farside/maxwell, bob
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Farside/max - reading farside's ISO, I couldn't really find a read on the Battle Mage slot at all, much less a townread. This is weird considering how they were soft defending BM with by pushing people who were scumreading BM:
- I especially dislike how they were pushing GC and Battle Mage as "not TvT" yesterday and depicting GC's scumread as an overreaction
In post 983, farside22 wrote:GC references:
Spoiler:
BM references:
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See there is a lot missing with this strong scum read. It boils down to BM's vote on votato and that's the extent of the reason that holds that wagon so firmly.
BM said a few other things a post later about votato that GC didn't comment about.
Now because of replacement GC is holding onto a weak scum read and pushing no reason's for any other scum reads or analysts of anyone this game.
Which BM calls GC on in the spoiler post above. GC also says he finds the explanation fine but only holds his vote on bm for taking time to respond. Which is NAI.
Mala is like my weakest townread, but here, she's tonally townier than the last time I saw her as scum, where I got the vibe that she was uncomfortable/didn't like playing as scum. She feels more carefree here- Cat Scratch Fever
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can you expand on thisIn post 1680, votato wrote:bob is here to solve the game.- Cat Scratch Fever
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Why is this bad? How is it scummier than how your slot treated BM?In post 1687, maxwell wrote:
You realize why that looks bad for you, though, right? Please, give me something more than this.In post 1683, Dunnstral wrote:This Votato wagon is looking good.
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To be clear, you were talking about HK50 here right?In post 1719, bob3141 wrote:@farside
It should have been clear I was outright calling you out for shading me. Trying to dismiss my entire post as ate. Something i've seen do scum do to me recently to get me worked up. In the end it won the game as I stopped being objective and snapped on midway for his bad play even though I was 100% sure cat/adora slot was scum and uncertain midway at the time..- Cat Scratch Fever
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Sure he was wrong but why isn't he town that was wrong?In post 1722, maxwell wrote:
This is where I was at, as well, it's just that looking back the way he interacted with the flipped scum slot doesn't look very good. I don't think it's going to be possible for me to find a way to ignore that. I need to spend time looking at other people though.In post 1677, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:I'm not feeling a dunn wagon.
Dunn's posting feel like his towngame - in particular, his confidence in his ability to towncase himself early game. He was wrong about BM, but I liked some of his other pushes he made yesterday, e.g. farside
Why is he scummier than say HK 50 who was also ostensibly wrong about the Porkens slot?- Cat Scratch Fever
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The fact that I don't townread these three slots on the Dunn wagon from yesterday really doesn't inspire confidence in scum!DunnIn post 767, Jake The Wolfie wrote:Incansecant Screaming
clidd (6):Not_Mafia, Green Crayons, stungun0404, Malakittens, bob3141, votato
Dunnstral (4):, notscienceDoctorPepper, farside22, HK 50
Green Crayons (1):clidd
notscience (1):geraintm
Not_Mafia (1):Dunnstral
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A brief votato case because I'm not seeing itIn post 1735, Dunnstral wrote:
The mass of people voting me, in general. I'm not sure what you guys want from me.In post 1713, Green Crayons wrote:
Who is this?In post 1705, Dunnstral wrote:Now they're back on me again because my read was wrong, or something to that effect- Cat Scratch Fever
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bob's recent posting has been better
Thinking about it some more, there was an awful lot of resistance to Porkens yesterday compared to how quickly a geraintm wagon struck up end of day, suggesting at least 1 scum off Porkens wagon and likely one on Geraintm
{HK50, dunn} fit that bill but idk I've already talked about why I townread dunn and I haven't really seen anything to change my mind there
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Mostly the follow up to his HK 50 push revealed there was more to it than just "not posting during certain times of day"In post 1760, maxwell wrote:can you tell me what about his recent handful of posts you liked better relative to everything else in the game?- Cat Scratch Fever
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I feel like this is more than enough reason to just vote HK 50In post 1765, maxwell wrote:expresses alarm that the counterwagons of the day all jumped to voting gera in 1549 but then walks it back in 1558.- Cat Scratch Fever
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Maybe his buddies were already on dunn? or he was pocketing dunn?In post 1829, Green Crayons wrote:So I thought that BM's first point where he asks me what my Dunn vote is all about suggested Dunn is town--BM-scum is looking for real reasons to vote Dunn.
But then he changes Dunn to being town.
And then votes votato over the tied bandwagon on Dunn.
And then has this weird way of explaining why Dunn is town.
And then promises farside a Dunn lynch in the future if they could just do a GC lynch.
I tend to think scum would have more coherent stances on their partners
tbh rereading this bit of BM's ISO, I'm not able to draw any confident conclusions from it- Cat Scratch Fever
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Can this happen sooner rather than laterIn post 1833, Dunnstral wrote:
And for my next trick, I'll make these votes disappearIn post 1799, Green Crayons wrote:Your also at E-1 so govern yourself accordingly.- Cat Scratch Fever
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what about the deadline pause
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NPOM you going to request this or not? If not, whyIn post 1723, Jake The Wolfie wrote:Please welcome NoPowerOverMe to the town! I will add 24 hours to the clock if they request it.
VOTE: hk50- Cat Scratch Fever
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What’s changed your read thereIn post 1859, Dunnstral wrote:I'd rather not lynch maxwell.- Cat Scratch Fever
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Npom why did you choose to lolhammer over requesting your 24 hour extension?In post 1870, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:
NPOM you going to request this or not? If not, whyIn post 1723, Jake The Wolfie wrote:Please welcome NoPowerOverMe to the town! I will add 24 hours to the clock if they request it.
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This doesn't explain why you think NM is scummier than bob simply because he was on two exec wagonsIn post 1947, NoPowerOverMe wrote:I'm not claiming a guilty on anyone.- Cat Scratch Fever
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In post 2035, maxwell wrote:
I unvoted because that was a shit vote from Looker who is occupying one of the slots in my PoE. I don't understand sheeping to a majority wagon while not being fully caught up with the game, when we have only 1 mis-elimination left. Don't give me shit about "unvoting for towncred" while you're simultaneously shading nopower.In post 2030, DoctorPepper wrote:This feels like you're reaching for town cred. You advocate for a PL (which is kinda iffy already at this state of the game) instead of scum read the slot and now you're backing of because they're at E-1?
The post seems so fake. Did you really think someone is gonna lolhammer?
Do you feel like we have enough info to end the day already? Why do you think votato’s votes on geraintm and dunnstral scummy?In post 2034, Looker wrote:
I saw the votecounts and his claim - what else is there to see? Can you show me the important thing you think I missed?In post 2028, maxwell wrote:Why are you putting someone at Maj-1 while still reading?- Cat Scratch Fever
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I agree about the voteIn post 2035, maxwell wrote:
I unvoted because that was a shit vote from Looker who is occupying one of the slots in my PoE. I don't understand sheeping to a majority wagon while not being fully caught up with the game, when we have only 1 mis-elimination left. Don't give me shit about "unvoting for towncred" while you're simultaneously shading nopower.In post 2030, DoctorPepper wrote:This feels like you're reaching for town cred. You advocate for a PL (which is kinda iffy already at this state of the game) instead of scum read the slot and now you're backing of because they're at E-1?
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This just looks like omgus. Can you explain these with more words?In post 2040, NoPowerOverMe wrote:I wouldn't be surprised if nm and Maxwell we're the scumteam- Cat Scratch Fever
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But he was also right on Porkens...?In post 2050, NoPowerOverMe wrote:Moreover since I feel like since he has been wrong twice maybe NM should be second guessing himself more than he is if he was town.- Cat Scratch Fever
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As in how confident are you in your reads on replace in?In post 2053, Looker wrote:What info does CSF want me to have? Also, is flipping town not scummy? I'm not really getting this defense.
Barring some night action shenanigans, we really only have this 1 mislynch to go. Do you feel like you have a game-winning PoE?- Cat Scratch Fever
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My stance actually hasn't changed much from yesterday. Wagon composition on dunnstral here is very mehIn post 767, Jake The Wolfie wrote:Incansecant Screaming
clidd (6):Not_Mafia, Green Crayons, stungun0404, Malakittens, bob3141, votato
Dunnstral (4):DoctorPepper, farside22, HK 50, notscience
Green Crayons (1):clidd
notscience (1):geraintm
Not_Mafia (1):Dunnstral
Not voting (0):
Mod Notes:
Please do not vote players who have replaced out.
Majority is 7 players.
Day 1 has begun and will end in (expired on 2020-06-24 07:23:04).
clidd has been prodded, and has (expired on 2020-06-22 05:06:16) to respond before I find a replacement.
geraintm has been prodded, and has (expired on 2020-06-22 19:49:43) to respond before I find a replacement.
Doctor Pepper is V/LA for (expired on 2020-06-22 06:06:00).
stungun0404 is V/LA until Monday.[/area]
HK50 was on dunnstral wagon, resisted voting Porkens and was on the final wagon to execute Geraintm.
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This is a really bad argumentIn post 2091, Looker wrote:The fact that this wagon is taking this long lets us know that scum is against it. Me being the counterwagon is also telling, but that's a discussion for post-flip.
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- Cat Scratch Fever
- Cat Scratch Fever
- Cat Scratch Fever
- Cat Scratch Fever
- Cat Scratch Fever
- Cat Scratch Fever
- Cat Scratch Fever
- Cat Scratch Fever
- Cat Scratch Fever
- Cat Scratch Fever
- Cat Scratch Fever
- Cat Scratch Fever
- Cat Scratch Fever
- Cat Scratch Fever
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