I quickhammered in the queue
My lynch would certainly be convenient for you
Scum lynched me day 1 when I was in the corner and they were in the exact position on the board as t-bone, and they wonIn post 48, GuiltyLion wrote:hey everyone!
So I actually played in a run of this setup before (the one Dunn was in, as well as our glorious mod Umlaut), where scum didn't kill the IC n1. Here's the game:
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=84&t=68044
They still managed to win because we still hadn't flipped scum by 5p so we couldn't just win the tic tac toe game outright without losing to mafia majority if we lynched wrong. We hit scum in 5p but then lost in LYLO and I'm still a bit salty about it, hence why I jumped at the chance to play this again!
I agree we should lynch in the corners today
...This should teach you two to use 'hide my online status' from now on, regardless of alignmentIn post 59, GuiltyLion wrote:as of this post, Maxwell AND rozyroz were both last seen online at 6:09 pm PST (my time), which was after day start at 5:50 PST, yet neither posted in the thread.
Yes, I was bottom left, scum was right middle. This game I'm bottom right, T-bone is left middleBlair wrote:The same position relative to you? Because you are not in the same corner in this game.In post 53, Dunnstral wrote:Scum lynched me day 1 when I was in the corner and they were in the exact position on the board as t-bone, and they won
Just saying.
UNVOTE: Dunnstral
VOTE: Maxwell
Scummy post relating to me & T-boneIn post 90, maxwell wrote:I put a lot of thought into the setup while I was waiting for the game to start and while I'll say more later, day 1 should be played for a long-term strategy. Getting strong townreads can basically win the game automatically. Still need to develop reads to get there, though so I'd rather see day 1 play out 'normally', I just ask that no one be put at L-1 because any quickhammer is severely damaging to the gamestate.
It's already way late here so I can't spend all night typing things up but I'll try to give some quick thoughts:
despite finding the reasoning in his last post somewhat odd, I actually like Clover as town here - his push on guiltylion feels genuine with the way he's investigating his stances rather than trying to push on something cheap.
I like that guiltylion actually bothered to investigate my activity, on first pass I thought he was town but on a reread didn't like his back and forth with clover as much. I'm tired so my thinking is not the best. Still shows more evidence of tying to be proactive than most.
If I could confidently townread Blair I'd declare the game to be won already, but I can't - the early excessive setup talk comes across as avoiding scumhunting, and felt like she hands out townreads too easily in #40 and #73.
Dunnstral has been fillery, devoid of content, with a rather awkward start. Don't see what other people are seeing in the townread there. I'll be reading Micro 639 to see if that's just his meta/if he's easy lynchbait, though.
T-Bone's opening was fillery/useless, lot of talk about the setup and past games. Do kind of like his empty vote on Dunn, though, becuase I didn't like his start either, but it does look off given he started the game similarly.
Kanna: really fillery start, plus a weak sheep of clover's vote on guiltylion while only committing to "I kind of agree" in #67. probably the scummiest of everyone who's posted.
Well, that took me too long and I'm not super happy with it, but I need to sleep.
His join date is 2015... he wouldn't get away with pretending to be a newbie regardless, so he wouldn't try to do itIn post 91, Blair wrote:Who has played with GuiltyLion before? I have a question.In post 88, GuiltyLion wrote:I ammmm willing to reconsider Clover I think
not a fan of you casting me as a newbie tho I'll have you know I have played anextensiveamount of games here over 5 years thank you
I haven't liked maxwell's posts so far
If GuiltyLion is scum, being perceived as a newbie when he is not is objectively an advantage - being underestimated where you are competent and overestimated where you are not is strategically ideal (insert vapid Tsun Zhu reference here).
GuiltyLion throws that advantage away here, ostensibly to defend his reputation as an experienced player.
Is GuiltyLion the kind of player who looks a gift horse in the mouth? I'm discounting all the WIFOM-fuel answers here in favor of either A.) he is not the sort of player who believes being underestimated is an advantage, or B.) he is that sort of player, but didn't mind tossing that advantage in the garbage here because he's town and doesn't care about that sort of thing.
(If the answer really is "C.) he knows it's an advantage but tossed it aside here for the even greater advantage of being townread by Blair for doing so" then please don't even answer - I don't need that kind of stress)
This is a weird vote, GuiltyLion has posted plenty to get a read from IMO so making this as an rvs vote while other people are voting him is weirdIn post 107, Rozyroz wrote:Right now no one pops out at me as suspicious. This will probably change soon and I'm open to hearing any evidence. My opinion right now is that we should lynch someone in a corner and of there is no way to know which corner to lynch as none of those players have said anything.
VOTE: GuiltyLion
Their name must make them guilty
I wasn't going after him for a lack of content, I was talking about different thingsIn post 155, maxwell wrote:Do we have different reasons? Maybe let him answer the damn question first. He seemed to be attacking him for similar reasons, though.In post 149, Cat Scratch Fever wrote: Why is this weird if you and Dunnstral have different reasons for suspecting T-Bone?
This is still a thing for meIn post 112, Dunnstral wrote:This is a weird vote, GuiltyLion has posted plenty to get a read from IMO so making this as an rvs vote while other people are voting him is weirdIn post 107, Rozyroz wrote:Right now no one pops out at me as suspicious. This will probably change soon and I'm open to hearing any evidence. My opinion right now is that we should lynch someone in a corner and of there is no way to know which corner to lynch as none of those players have said anything.
VOTE: GuiltyLion
Their name must make them guilty
They posted a lot more and their personality is more apparentIn post 217, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:What changed your mind on max, Dunn?
I think it's reasonably likely that one of you/t-bone are scum, yesIn post 227, Clover Ebi wrote:Are you worried about that?