Micro 949 | Mask of Monsters | Game Over!

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I figured this out. Scum name starts with K, so it must be
VOTE: Katrielle

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I EXIST

prove it

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it's little things like that scum will look for when comparing us to main accounts

just saying, your reason is nai because town have motive to change posting style too

Nah it seems possible in theory to hunt down someone based on his habits but you can't really do that, such things are too generic

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Scum has decided to be obvious scum with the second mask(Kris Mask) to prevent too many associations.
Deliberately writing in allcaps is obvious obfuscation.
I hoped to be able to catch them with associations but it seems we must do this the old-fashioned way.
VOTE: Kris Mask

You made it obvious and catched your own account!

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do you have any of those fancy town/scumrreads so far?

maybe kuzco

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If he's town he'll die anyway, so there's no reason to keep him alive

but he can be killed at any point of time i think, which means that scum can kill him right before lylo

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At any time during the Day, the Mafia may privately guess as to the true identity behind a Mask.

So kill might be used to cut off 3v2 or 2v1 situation.

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The most important thing here is to ensure that Pork didn't try to impersonate kris to get him lynched. Kris, make your stance about this.

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I want to make a family

Sorry there is no other fox in this village.

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VOTE: Kuzco
what is the deal with this silence

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We need his leadership.

No, we don't. We got Kirk

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porkens has been replaced.

@mod any news?

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I think I know who Karma Mask

i never had my alt guessed so no, you don't

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Oh look, Kris hasn't been shot yet

I wonder what that means

It means that the most optimal use of this ability is using it near lylo.

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Karma and Kay have never interacted.

I could say the same about you and Kay.

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Scum's nightmare this game is IRT (in real time) interactions that will spew players as not being aligned.

INTERACT WITH ME, FOOLS

ok i'll interact with you Kim. this sounds like good idea

what you want to talk about? tiaj

No one even acknowledge this as far as I see. Is this a joke? What is this?

People pretending to be scum in RVS is quite common phenomenon.

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could we get maybe a read list from you Karma? short explanations or thoughts would be great

i don't have them at the moment

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could we get maybe a read list from you Karma? short explanations or thoughts would be great

i don't have them at the moment

Well what are you waiting for?

for them to develop

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I would like to end this day with either Kris policy lynch or Kuzco lynch.

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This game sure is moving at a leisurely pace.

then use vote for first time

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I know it could be easy to forget because you need to wait six or eighteen or ten hours to post on it

Hey they did have real-time conversation once.

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She's trying not to make any enemies

If i wish to avoid making enemies then i would give Kim her desired readlist.

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I find it weird that Katrielle is voting Kris but prods for information on anybody but Kris from Kuzko.

If she locked herself on Kris then why not.

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If kuzco is only yakuza because he's the fall guy, does it help us that much to lock him up?
You kill a snake by cutting off its head.

You have too much confidence. Kuzco scum is just a theory, not a fact.

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One day and we got two slips already...

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Oh look, Kris hasn't been shot yet

I wonder what that means

this is rank scum.

Why do you think so?

Because as I argued before, there's no reason for the wolf to be pushing you right now, since they can kill you without doing that. Get it?

Kirk is it me imagining things or did you answer your own question?

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@Karma, what is your opinion on Kris?

He is deliberately trying to act odd, which makes no sense at this point of time. We already know his account, so he has no need to hide his posting style. His strange manners blurs my view about him.

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do you think Komainu could be scum for his scumreading you for not giving reads?

No. Why would that even be a scumtell?

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i'd still like something from you Karma

no memes for you

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I don't see better thing to do
VOTE: Kris

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Maybe we could locktown Kirk. He seems to appear in different hours then others and scum has to sleep.

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7-lynch-nightkill-daykill=4 with right guess it is 2v2 tomorrow.

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i could also see Kitsune and Komainu being the same person for reasons

this is probably not very helpful actually, since we can't talk about the reasons and speculating about people is obviously very bad. just getting my thoughts out there for the sake of transparency though

still having said all that it's hard not to lynch Karma here. i have no idea who they are i thought i had a decent idea at first but the absolute lack of content even at this stage means it's not that person. Karma if you really had to force yourself to have some town or scum reads right now, what would they be and why? i keep thinking scum going with your sort of account would be very helpful so that they can give reads on one account and then not have to fabricate much if their second account adopts a play style like yours

I am the first person, who gave both Kusco and Kris call. It is huge bs to call me lackluster and praise players like Kay or Karti, which didn't give us anything in this game. You are trying to label me in specific in eyes of other players by repeating those statements.

Komainu seems to have no interest in this setup. It is pretty obvious that he didn't join this because of playerlist, so he has to have other reason to be here. His negative attitude looks like distancing.
Katrielle is kind of generic player. Maybe she likes lynchwagons too much.
Kay seems genuine enough. He forgot that vote mechanics exists but whatever.
Kirk posts when other people sleep.
Kitsune has the highest second-account equity. Her posts are often forced and makes themed posts.
Kim likes to post a lot and seems to be kind of player that can't be identified with her posts alone. I would need to dig player-specific meta or compare her with scum flips.

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I disagree. What makes you say this?

common sense

What is this?

logic

No, it doesn't. If it did, please tell me what he was distancing from?

second account

What negativity is here?

Spoiler:

It's enough for now, I don't think scum would theater this early when there haven't even been any town on town discussions yet.

What are you trying to accomplish?

You haven't given any reads, you're not voting anyone, and now you're trying to stall out the obvious play for an asinine reason

This Kuzco wagon is garbage

By the way this whole discussion about what if Porkens is some other account is the reason that he should have just been modkilled then and there. This is stupid and we should just kill him.

People are talking about scum having a gimmick second account, how's this for a gimmick.

What do either of these mean? Are you accusing me of being on both wagons? Did you not just try to claim credit for both of these lynches?

It means that you desire to get someone lynched. I will leave OMGUS interpretations for you.

Not a read. Actually, none of these are reads, just saying things you've observed.

I don't find his activity too disparate from anyone else's. Also not a read.

Spoiler: i wonder why

"Karma if you really had to force yourself to have some town or scum reads right now"

What makes you say this? I disagree again.

If you disagree with everything then don't waste my time, because i can already see that your standpoint will never change. I am not interested in debating with person of you attitude.

I very much disagree that she's difficult to read or identify through her posting habits. This reads like a cop-out from you

Maybe yes or maybe you are just naive. If you look at statistics when average player makes a confident reads, their townreads and scumreads are generally less likely to be scum and their nullreads are more likely to be scum.

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If you disagree with everything then don't waste my time, because i can already see that your standpoint will never change. I am not interested in debating with person of you attitude.

My points of contention with each statement was clearly articulated, I'm uncertain as to how this points to an unwillingness to accept a different standpoint?

In the most insincere way you were able to do it. I don't believe you desire to gather information at all. Your goal is to achieve the highest shade you can pull.

Typical manipulation

No, it doesn't. If it did, please tell me what he was distancing from? What negativity is here?

First you ask me about his negativity and distancing.

The quotes you shared from Komainu do not display a disinterest in the game, just a negativity towards certain attitudes.

and after you got, you pretend that i gave you wrong answer


Ofc we also got semantic nitpick.

What is the second account? Distancing is done from an object, and one you can see. Give me the object, or at least an example of him distancing.

He distances from everyone and this "everyone" includes his second account...

This still fails to support your assertion that she is unreadable without meta reference.

I said that i don't intent to prove it for you. This is my impression and you may have different. However i didn't like your BoP pulled out there.

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VOTE: Kuzco

el minus two

Kitsu, what did you mean with this el minus two? Is it a special code or reference to something?

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Heh, i guess it would be too great to actually work.

One reason is that i expect scum to make cheat talk with himself. The other thing is my strange impression that you don't separate thoughts via sentences. When you move from one sentence to another, you just kind of go with the flow.

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Opening post seemed slightly scummy. Caring about komainu isn't what I care about right now. But the way you have been interested in Kris is very worst. He doesn't matter. It's like it's a way for you to find things to talk about to seem like a townie. But you pick a thing that doesn't matter. So it doesn't actually mean you aren't in the cartel

I am not positive I have her identified but feel like even if my guess is wrong, it is a player influenced by who I am thinking of. So being scared on this alien planet makes sense and is not yakuza scared of undercover cops.

I think it is best to try to identify a wolf and kill a wolf then find the rest of hte pack, then give up on that when we truly reach LyLo, which I think is tomorrow at the earliest, so I want us to be wolf hunting.

but basically, we always lynch him in LyLo. if he's town, we can treat him like an IC and he should help us solve and he'll be killed by scum probably. if he's scum, he'll leave associatives for us while alive for when we do eventually lynch him in LyLo. lynching him now if town makes no difference to lynching him later in terms of strategy. hope y'all get it

wait maybe we should lynch Kris first. someone brought up a good point yesterday about how a Kris!scumflip would massively help in hunting the other scum account and would probably narrow things down significantly. while if we continue to leave Kris for later like we have been doing, we might lynch someone we never would've lynched if we'd known Kris/Porkens was scum. combined with the earlier argument that he WILL die if town when scum go for the multikill, we really should be doing this:

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"Very likely town, but insistent on pursuing items of little to no importance." - Kitsune in a nutshell

Katrielle confirmed as item of little to no importance

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I've found a reason every player could be scum.

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The game is awfully slow for one in which players seem so uncertain of their reads.

you should say leisurely

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in fact i could see komainu as todays lynch

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Komainu seems to have lost like all interest for this game actually

or lost interest in split personality

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My gut still thinks your scummy because you want to be loved

what is the deal with this AtE?

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@mod are prods public knowledge?

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A pattern with Komainu is that I feel as though his posts and content arrive at the time they

need

to, where failing that posting or comment by that fuzzy deadline would be a negative indication for him. Kirk's activity has been spotty but lacks this pattern, outright falling off the map for a bit to the point we are ticked at him or posting extra when he has been around some already. When I was re-isoing him there was a point he talked about having already made townreads and having already been accountable and "restated" them but they weren't there. A sort of catchup mafia I've seen partners play as mafia.

on other hand that is towny mindset

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komainu, kitsune

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You mean your PoE from day 1.

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His other mask is probably bussing him as well.

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since people can't keep their alts inside their pants. Not sorry.

That is an excuse, not a reason.

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Katri gives me counterwagoning vibes. She is very eager to push inactive slots but when koma outright refused to contribute here, she just ignored it. I didn't even see koma pocketing katri or doing anything that could emotionally influence her to make out-of-character move.
VOTE: komainu

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Did you know that mother Northy needs 4 minutes to make nine tailed fox but she is able to make me in less then 1 minute.

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I guess that's an argument for moving the day along quicker, because it gives scum less time to figure it out.

Nah, It works in our favor. Overtime we are more likely catch similarities, between two scum accounts.

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My method was to mark each hour in which user has posted in form of table to determine their day-night cycle.

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Kay is on one day, Karma the next.

I post every day. It seems that i missed only like two days and on those kay didn't post either. You pulled this shade out with hope that no one is going to check it.

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Kim and Kirk don't seems like people, which are worth following. They are kind of people, which are easily influenced on personal level. They don't suspect people, which are townreading them. I still feel uncomfortable, how Kirk did 180 on me once i gave him townread. Kim on other hand is completely tunneled on the exact person, which suspected her. She placed all of her focus on finding Kirks potentially suspicious behaviors, once she had to argue on him and now got biased.

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I think that we should lynch either komainu or kitsune.

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Eventually Kart but the only possibility of her being scum is where she is tryharding to save her other account, so it makes slightly more sense to lynch this other account then going along high risk to lynch her.

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Hey! Can we make a party? Let's see we got Kitsu, Kim, Koma, Kart and me. Maybe we could make a real-time conversation!

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whats up?

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indeed you are not aware of it

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My method was to mark each hour in which user has posted in form of table to determine their day-night cycle.

please show me a screenshot of this table

if you still have it and you can, it would mean you are very likely town

I don't have it.

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to be honest kim, i think that you are trying to hunt down my timezone by looking at the hours, which i used in my table

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if you had the table you wouldn't need to include the column/row headers

I wouldn't need to do it but you didn't expect me to consider this as a threat.

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Maybe I will pretend you answered Rogue One.

Is it your favorite?

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VOTE: Karma

Congratulations, during this day you voted each player! Northy is waiting with reward.

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Such a shame. I hoped that more people would show up. Only person behind kitsu and kim care about me.

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Okay the fact that Kay still haven't vote anyone is really messed up. She just joined my lynchpool.

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*haven't voted

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she has made her main very obvious. she's made no attempt to hide it by even doing simple things like putting her vote down

and you say that she is scum, sooo are both of her account obvious or only this one?

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wow the closer we get to deadline, the more abusive kitu becomes

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komainu absence got him out of suspicion, such a shame

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looks like a good moment to reread entire game

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Kay
Katrielle
Kim
Karma
Kitsune
Komainu
Kris
Kuzco
Kirk

accounts were made in this order within few minutes

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i think i that i intend on Kart
my bet is {Kart, Koma}

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In the end i would hammer kart anyway, so the outcome would be the same.

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Yea, any rush is destined to fail. If we have to lose via daykill then we lose anyway.

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I want Kim

I also wanted to lynch Kim but she died

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kay x kirk, kay x kisu, kay x koma
kirk x kitsu, kirk x koma
kitsu x koma

Seems checkable.

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Karma, does the disproof Kimitsune change your opinion of me?

More or less. I would rather say that your methods yesterday were interesting.

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I changed my user timezone to +9:30 and checked carefully timestamps. I think that i was wrong about Kirk. There is one person that he could be paired with, so i am back in square one.

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Who could Kirk be paired with?

Komainu. Even when he appears late there is still wide timestamp made.

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Kirk and Kay both correctly use semicolons to separate two complete phrases, Komainu doesn't seem to understand or care.

Kirk used it only once.

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People are clearing Kitsune because they would have killed Kay?

no

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You are saying that me sleeping for only 3 hours and managing my timestamps perfectly fromt he start is more likely than the two accounts who don't post for the exact same seven hours?

That is manipulation. I checked each post respectively and there wasn't such case. You compare different days.

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I think that our best bet is komainu.

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Kitsune > Katrielle > Karma > Komainu > Kay > Kirk

If you look at fact that Kirk & Kay are not teammates for sure, then Koma is the best choice. First scum can be either Kay or Kirk but the second has to be Koma anyway, unless you suspect me. Why are you pursuing kirk/kay?

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cmon i wanted komainu

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It is pretty obvious that there is on scum among two of you but it's hard to pick which one. Now you voted each other, which forces us to vote out one of you.
Yesterday i narrowed down possible teams to {Komainu, Kirk} {Komainu, Kay} {Kitsune, Kay} and the last choice was the least possible.

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I'm evaluating my confidence on Kay and Komainu being paired.

Do you actually see similarity in them or this is just PoE?

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Now i am sure that Kirk&Kay is impossible, because in that case he would hammer already.

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I mean Koma&Kirk

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If Koma would be Kirk account then he would switch to it and hammer with it.

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Sure
VOTE: Kay

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Mommy northy! We killed our sibling again, it is time to take off her mask!

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You need two people with perfect timing, where he can do it solo. We are on major disadvantage here.

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Is there any point in doing nights? Scum can't kill anymore.

skip night?

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Why is decision the opposite of interaction?

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That honestly could have been telling in itself because I use a different browser for my alt and for my main

Did you download second browser specifically to avoid altslips? Isn't it easier to differentiate game with themes rather then different windows?

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VOTE: komainu

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It is worth noting that Kim guessed Kitsu main and maybe knew Kay main. I don't think that one person could fool Kim that much.

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Yea

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I told you to lynch komainu for like 3 dayssss

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Kim = skitter
Kirk = JacksonVirgo
Kitsu = Sakura Hana

did i match anything?

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It would be scummy to point it out by myself but i was the only person here, who used

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[vote][/vote] rather then [v][/v]

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northy, are you mad that we used methods like grammar checking or timestamps compare (which was my idea not kirks!)?

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Kitsu make sure to reveal your bet on me, before you spoil yourself

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If you're confident it's wrong then it probably is

In fact i though that Kim posted your question. You asked it exactly when Kim expected quick response from me, so i didn't the poster and just answered right away.

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Karma! i have a question for you

are you ready?

whats up?

Karma Mask are you sure I don't know who you are because if I did it would make you a villager but you yelled that I didn't

indeed you are not aware of it

The truth is that in my opinion Kim wasn't aware about my identity.
I didn't want to look silly by withdrawing it and decided to just go along with it.

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It should be easy enough to guess my identity using the notes PT
I removed the place where I mentioned the name of my main account, but I tried to post free and unfettered there so in general it should be like level 2 hints!

You really want us to make a guess.

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This setup was highly dependent on scum devotion. Tryhard scum, which makes realtime conversations with himself could win this. Althunt was probably possible by comparing post times with other ongoing games.
I was quite scared of rolling scum here. I don't know who could i hide my posting style, maybe i would need to copypaste posts from other games and bus my account.

btw if kitsu is mod then she must be alisae