Micro 949 | Mask of Monsters | Game Over!

[Kirk Mask]

So how do we figure out who's scum?

Don't worry, I'll take care of that part, you just enjoy yourself.

[Kirk Mask]

The wolf is likely to be comparing timestamps with 'real' accounts to try to fit in a few extra kills.

[Kirk Mask]

VOTE: Kim Mask

My early theory is that Kim and Komainu are the same person. If I'm wrong, I do think Kim is suspicious.

My reasoning:

Look at this post from Kim:

So how do we figure out who's scum? Do we just make conversation and see who sounds scummy? Idk how this really works

Anyone here who wants to talk about our avatars? Kay has the best one imo. I realize that could just be me buddying my other account but it's not I swear

She starts off with proper capitalization on the first letter in each sentence. Now, look at the rest of her posts, she quickly devolves into lower case only, which I assume is not natural for her.
She could simply be trying to maintain her mask, but she could also be trying to distance her two personas.

Look at the Kim and Komainu interactions - I get the inkling that someone is trying

too

hard to make two accounts seem unaligned right out of the gate. Keep the grammar from post 15 in mind.

[Kirk Mask]

Why would scum intentionally switch posting styles on an account after just one post?

15 isn't Kim's first post. They talked in lowercase a few times before that point. 15 was a slip-up on Kim's part.

[Kirk Mask]

I reckon the 'possibility' of being mafia is good enough for a vote, and even ultimately a lynch, rather than being the target of defense because they 'might' be town on page 2.

[Kirk Mask]

[Kirk Mask]

you realize town will be trying to pick a posting style that's dissimilar to their main?

Sure, but capitalizing the first letter of each sentence is not a 'posting style'.

[Kirk Mask]

But what's not nai is that the interactions between you and Komainu look a little too perfect, like someone is trying to make the two accounts seem unaligned due to super early interactions in which the two talk differently, and to other people at the same time, but also keep coming back to each other.

Katrielle is doing the same thing, you're right, and they've already messed up with it.

[Kirk Mask]

Komainu stood out to me the most. The thing about you and Katrielle is that the associations between you two are brought about by you, and so if you're a wolf you could be setting them up.

As for Kay, it seems pretty obvious that she isn't the same person as you, as long as I'm not overestimating my capability here.

[Kirk Mask]

VOTE: Kris

If he's town he'll die anyway, so there's no reason to keep him alive

the dog amalgamation monstrosity has a point

we should always be lynching Kris now

Well, no, if Kris is town the wolf will deliberately not kill him, and will instead leave him all the way until lylo, at which point he will kill him. The point of this is to try to get town to lynch Kris.

[Kirk Mask]

I do think we need to kill Kris.

[Kirk Mask]

Feel free to move your vote, mine is already on Kim.

This feels like omgus from you on two slots at once, though. Which isn't warranted. The wolf doesn't have to try to lynch you, they can kill you at any time.

[Kirk Mask]

So Kitsune hammered Kris accidentally while trying to vote for me instead.

Or Kitsune hammered Kris 'accidentally' while 'trying to vote for me instead'.

I think we're going to need more town slips like in 115 to be sure. Do you reckon the mafia have day talk?

[Kirk Mask]

Or Kitsune hammered Kris 'accidentally' while 'trying to vote for me instead'.

Though as I mentioned earlier, they don't actually have a reason to do that to secure Kris' death.

[Kirk Mask]

Yep, that’s where I’m at. Kirk and Kim. Same person

DOPPLEGANGAR

Feel free to move your vote, mine is already on Kim.

This feels like omgus from you on two slots at once, though. Which isn't warranted. The wolf doesn't have to try to lynch you, they can kill you at any time.

Kuzko was a revote
VOTE: kirk

What's the deal with this?

[Kirk Mask]

UNVOTE: Kim

After seeing more from Kim I no longer want to lynch them.

For now VOTE: kuzco for pure self preservation.

It doesn't make sense for you to be voting for pure self preservation if your account has been outted and can be killed by the wolf at any time. It doesn't make sense at all.

This Kuzco wagon is garbage

Why is it garbage?

We need his leadership.

No, we don't. We got Kirk

I'm flattered.

[Kirk Mask]

Oh look, Kris hasn't been shot yet

I wonder what that means

Not much, don't you think the wolf will keep Kris around until it's no longer convenient for them to do so?

[Kirk Mask]

Oh look, Kris hasn't been shot yet

I wonder what that means

this is rank scum.

Why do you think so?

[Kirk Mask]

@mod Has the player behind Kris Mask ever been replaced? Is that public knowledge?
Has the player who slipped their main identity been replaced? Is that public knowledge?

[Kirk Mask]

Oh look, Kris hasn't been shot yet

I wonder what that means

this is rank scum.

Why do you think so?

Because as I argued before, there's no reason for the wolf to be pushing you right now, since they can kill you without doing that. Get it?

If Kris is indeed town, I think the people who argued saving the shot until LYLO is better (Kirk and Karma iirc) have a higher chance of being scum because I have seen it be a reasonably effective tell that if someone claims the scum's actions were dumb or didn't make sense, scum are more likely to defend them. It's not ironclad, but it is a thing.

Not a bad tell, but I'm not defending wolf actions as being not dumb. I'm pointing out that suspicion on people pushing Kris is ill-founded due to the mechanics.

[Kirk Mask]

Komainu doesn't have an inherent reason to be pushing you if they're a wolf and you're town, you seem to be in full defense mode and it doesn't make sense from your town point of view to be playing as such. If Komainu is a wolf, they're trying to sell a persona, or trying to appear busy without having to push on someone who may stack around for longer.

As for the information request... posts like 155 where you justify putting Kuzko to L-1 and 161 where you try to redirect suspicion on yourself seem suspect.

[Kirk Mask]

It's probably not safe to assume that scum still haven't interacted with each other by this point.

Interesting phrasing. Maybe a townslip? Scum is just one person controlling two accounts.

You've been voted to L-1, by the way.

[Kirk Mask]

Kay, what are your individual thoughts on myself, Kuzko, and Karma?

[Kirk Mask]

I think it's more likely I guessed wrong than impersonation is happening

Kirk seems interested in things I'm not interested in so I think he's yakuza

What am I interested in that you're not interested in, exactly? And why do you think that makes me non-town?

[Kirk Mask]

I'm going to go against the grain here: Kay weirds me out, I think a certain type of scum player would play an account like Kay.

[Kirk Mask]

There is no one on the web site that uses `, ok.

I wouldn't be so sure about that.

Does anyone understand my feeling

(´• ᴗ •`✿)

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✿)

Coincidence? I think not.

[Kirk Mask]

Jokes aside, I find it weird that Katrielle is voting Kris but prods for information on anybody but Kris from Kuzko. Shouldn't Katrielle be voting for Kuzco?

If kuzco is only yakuza because he's the fall guy, does it help us that much to lock him up?
You kill a snake by cutting off its head.

If Kirk is a snake he is the head.

Where does it look like I've set Kuzko to be the fall guy? if he's mafia, I'm certainly not looking to gain credit from it, so your reasoning is off here.

Unfortunately, it seems you have chosen to tunnel on me.

Don't forget to use the strong account to challenge your utter and complete lack of analysis compared to paranoia tripping that's important

It will make the strong account look good

If kuzco is only yakuza because he's the fall guy, does it help us that much to lock him up?
You kill a snake by cutting off its head.

If Kirk is a snake he is the head.

I understand Kim's point about ` but it also doesn't make sense. There is no one on the web site that uses `, ok. I'm not sure how you can play with everybody when there are so many people but even if that's true. Do people hide their identity by picking one other person on the web site to imitate? I don't think so.

To be frank, I think you're intimidated by me. I haven't done all too much this game, saying I'm a strong account seems to be based more on my tone of voice than on what I've said.

[Kirk Mask]

everyone else in the game i can envisage someone as. i have decent guesses for everyone else that i've occasionally been PMing the mod.

Interesting. I have no clue who anybody is, I seem to have very little talent in picking out people unless I'm deeply familiar with them. I'd be interested in knowing who you think I am in post-game.

[Kirk Mask]

I wish Kuzco explained the why for Katrielle.

[Kirk Mask]

Well, no, Kris didn't answer me between posts 166 and 186 so I brought it back up and explained why his thinking doesn't make sense to me.

[Kirk Mask]

It was in response to me saying I wish he explained his read. He had, I saw it but promptly forgot about it.

[Kirk Mask]

You think you know my main but you don’t really “know”.

And I’m not deliberately acting odd anymore this is my posting style.

I like I said I have no reads I’m just sheeping nk15 and I suggest y’all do the same or explain why you think ktriellebis town.

Do you have any other reasons to suspect Katrielle as mafia?

[Kirk Mask]

Hmm... It's more so that I was trying to get something more out of Kris since he was voted to L-1. He would be the second person to die while pointing a finger at you.

[Kirk Mask]

UNVOTE:

@Komainu, why do you town read Kirk? There is only one alignment this game that would prefer to keep alive players that have slipped over players that have not.

Heh, I believe Kitsune called me a wolf for the exact opposite reason. For wanting to lynch Kris, even though he looked like town.

[Kirk Mask]

Also it's kind of ironic that you say that while unvoting...? Or rather, it doesn't make sense.

[Kirk Mask]

Are you saying you're not Porkens...?

[Kirk Mask]

If Porkens is the mafia, I suspect Karma and Komainu.

[Kirk Mask]

So what was Kris talking about?

[Kirk Mask]

Kris was Porkens and was being weird.

Why would he be trying to mislead us with his last few posts?

[Kirk Mask]

Maybe we could locktown Kirk. He seems to appear in different hours then others and scum has to sleep.

An interesting thought, though I'd be very surprised if there was a visible pattern showing that I couldn't be any other person based on time stamps alone.

[Kirk Mask]

It is pretty obvious that he didn't join this because of playerlist, so he has to have other reason to be here.

This is a weird argument to be making.

[Kirk Mask]

VOTE: Kim Mask

To some extent, I'm townreading Kitsune, Katrielle, and to a certain extent Karma mask.

I have bad feelings about Kim Mask. I think it makes a lot of sense for them to be a wolf. I'm still side-eyeing Kay, and Is think Komainu Mask is a bit suspicious.

[Kirk Mask]

why does it make sense Kirk? i agree with whoever said that Kirk started strong but has since done nothing particularly towny. the way you started i assumed you would take a much more proactive role but that's just not been the case

Kay seems to be picking and choosing her posts to respond to, rather than commenting on the actual good stuff especially on this page, so not a fan of that

i agree with Katrielle on Karma's reads. i don't like the reasoning for most of them

VOTE: Kim Mask

To some extent, I'm townreading Kitsune, Katrielle, and to a certain extent Karma mask.

I have bad feelings about Kim Mask. I think it makes a lot of sense for them to be a wolf. I'm still side-eyeing Kay, and Is think Komainu Mask is a bit suspicious.

Could you go into a little more detail into the "why" here? Especially if you have any information on how these particularly developed. Your reads of Komainu, Kitsune, Kim, and Karma being the reads I'm the most interested in here.

Komainu lacks zazz. He was here to push a mislynch but doesn't seem to be here to do much else.
Karma looks better now that they've posted more.
Kitsune feels genuine and involved.
Kim has faded into the background and I have bad feelings about her, and I'm not seeing a reason to townread her, really.

[Kirk Mask]

Well, let's hear them.

[Kirk Mask]

This game is very slow, though, moving at about a page per day.

i'm the top poster Kirk and have still been posting at a higher frequency today than you for example so i don't get this faded into the background thing. could you elaborate on these "bad feelings about her"?

at the start of the game you suspected me because you didn't like some of my interactions with someone (forgot who), you then moved off me because you felt better about me but didn't explain why. you are now back on me for reasons that you haven't explained why. could you explain your progression with substance please?

Kirk help me

why Kitsune Komainu?

I'm going mostly off of feel here, I think Kitsune, Katrielle, Karma seem towny to me.

Leaving Kim, Kay, Komainu.

[Kirk Mask]

It looks like people are defaulting to Komainu. I'm kind of wary of that seeming too easy.

[Kirk Mask]

We need to vote together

[Kirk Mask]

I have to go for a minute.

Katrielle scumslipped

She had to go for a minute.
Subsequently no one except for northsidegal posted for nearly half a day.
Everyone becomes a great alternate identity for Katrielle. Even assuming she is yakuza, it is surprising that nobody posted during that time, if a larger number of individuals exist, it is even more surprising. Remember when you do the math that you know that everyone in the family is not in the yakuza, so the pool is even smaller.
VOTE: Katrielle
Not many hours are left, I am willing to vote Katrielle, Kirk, or Komainu. Don't ask me in what order, I am already stressed.

What are you talking about? She said that at the end of a long post, in anticipation of a reply.

[Kirk Mask]

Also I'm less than fine with voting Katrielle; I feel that she's town.

[Kirk Mask]

We can talk about that, I'll be here.

[Kirk Mask]

I kind of think Kay is just being omegastupid

I don't think it's a scum ploy to try to figure out an identity, at the very least.

[Kirk Mask]

With that said, I really don't think it's Katrielle, I'm going to trust my instinct on this one

VOTE: Kay Mask

[Kirk Mask]

Kirk if it is just your instinct I am lynching your instinct tomorrow
Tell me your brain

VOTE: Katrielle

[Kirk Mask]

Alright listen. Let's not rush things. If the wolf don't know our identities, or if they guess wrong, they don't win immediately.

I didn't realize that my vote was the hammer.

[Kirk Mask]

In hindsight, Kay fishing for information on identities is a lot more suspicious than I gave it credit, due to our current situation.

[Kirk Mask]

Kitsune if you were to bet the game on me being town, who would you vote for today?

[Kirk Mask]

What I meant by my vote in 727 is that the dead town players all suspected Katrielle, and while she didn't directly cause their deaths, If I was following my mind that was worth giving weight

[Kirk Mask]

Both of those things are true.

[Kirk Mask]

Do you think Karma is town?

[Kirk Mask]

Okay give me a seminar on why I should want to lynch Kay rather than Katrielle because I agree it is a gamewinning/losing thing.

she has made her main very obvious. she's made no attempt to hide it by even doing simple things like putting her vote down (won't go into more reasons just in case scum still don't know her)
until she gained suspicion she was very floaty and i can see Katrielle's argument
pointing out that spelling difference on apologize has no town motivation. Kay herself earlier this game has discussed and understood that there is town motivation in personas and obscuring play. so her argument that she pointed it out because she's showing Komainu is putting on a persona i don't buy. i think if she were town she would either not point that out in the first place and if she carelessly did, certainly not defend it in that manner, because she knows better than to explain it using that reason when there's no clear scum motivation for obscuring your main

also i just think she's so much more likely to flip scum than Katrielle who i townread

[Kirk Mask]

No.

[Kirk Mask]

Of course if I were a wolf I could simply say 'yes' then not elaborate under a pretext of not revealing anything to the wolf in this delicate situation

[Kirk Mask]

I'm going to explain why everyone is town, then someone can tell me I am wrong.

Kirk - either doesn't sleep or doesn't have another account
Katrielle - Fought with Kay and earlier talked to me like she thinks I'm town but not quite like she knows I'm town which is a tricky balance
northsidegal - knows everyone's main but has not yet daykilled everyone
Kay - fought with Katrielle, refused to be in my family even though she knows it will make me hate her
Karma - spellings and sentence structures too different to every other user
Kitsune - has exactly nine tails
Komainu - is upset about altslips the way I am

When I write it out maybe it's Komainu

[Kirk Mask]

I'm operating under the assumption that Kitsune is town.

[Kirk Mask]

I have an exercise for Komainu Mask. No one else should comment or interact with it until Komainu Mask has completed the exercise. Others are welcome to comment after his exercise is complete. Don't make me hurt you.
Also, Komainu needs to complete the exercises in good faith, don't make me hurt you.

Spoiler: Exercise

I decided to do several.
Correct the grammar of the following sentences:
I like to sing alot, and dance to songs to.
Northsidegal and me bought plane tickets Florida is perfect this time of year.
Rogue One is not a good film Disney Star Wars films are rancid steaming piles of trash.

Spoiler:

[Kirk Mask]

I need to find goodness in Kirk, Komainu, or Kay.

Do a side by side comparison of my time stamps with Komaitsu.

Do you think we can be the same person?

If not, do you think I'm likely to be wolfing it up with Kay?

[Kirk Mask]

Well if I'm wrong then that's awkward. I think there's something there though. Can we map out all the posting times? I can do that.

[Kirk Mask]

Bear with me. This timetable is very simple, If the post was made at time 11:00-11:59 AM, it goes under the white 11. PM is pink. I haven't changed the default time settings on this account, so the time is based off of whatever this is set to.

[Kirk Mask]

How much is cut off?

[Kirk Mask]

[Kirk Mask]

I think Kay and Komainu are the same person.

[Kirk Mask]

It's cut off on the right.
Kirk clearly stays awake from 1 am to 10 pm, 21 hours, since there are six posts at 1 and 8 at 10. Any difference between Komainu's pattern and Kirk's can he deliberate, then.

I clearly sleep between 7am-3pm account time, with the times varying a bit, if you look at just my graph.

[Kirk Mask]

Kirk clearly stays awake from 1 am to 10 pm, 21 hours,

[Kirk Mask]

Who could Kirk be paired with?

Komainu. Even when he appears late there is still wide timestamp made.

Really? I believe the chart I showed shows that that is... very unlikely.

Wolf will try to not post at the same time all the time, but a pattern spanning weeks? You guys really think I missed out on sleep to try to win this game as wolf, rather than the two coincidentally similar timestamp accounts being wolves?

[Kirk Mask]

How much is cut off?

[Kirk Mask]

You are saying that me sleeping for only 3 hours and managing my timestamps perfectly fromt he start is more likely than the two accounts who don't post for the exact same seven hours?

[Kirk Mask]

Maybe, maybe I can be convinced that it's not Komainu. In which case maybe Kitsune/Karma timestamps should be brought up.

I think it's always Kay, though. I am ready to push for this one.

[Kirk Mask]

This seems like an unfair way to win

Nay! The setup is 7-2 mountainous, dare I say the town is expected to use this sort of information

[Kirk Mask]

What if you and Komainu powernap from 12 to 2?

That's still me sleeping 3 hours only

[Kirk Mask]

It's 1 Nightkill mountainous

You were bringing up semicolons earlier

[Kirk Mask]

It's 1 Nightkill mountainous

With potential additional kills from an anti-claim mechanic.

[Kirk Mask]

I have a very natural posting pattern. I post whenever I'm around/feel like it, including when I wake up early/sleep late

Komainu doesn't. He disappears for too long during certain periods of time, as if someone is trying to make it look like two people aren't around at the same time. Alternatively they could just be at work/whatever BUT that includes weekends and everything.

[Kirk Mask]

Komainu complained about phone autocorrect once, I wonder if he is an account someone is playing from just their phone to avoid cross-altslipping

That's a good theory.

[Kirk Mask]

You are saying that me sleeping for only 3 hours and managing my timestamps perfectly fromt he start is more likely than the two accounts who don't post for the exact same seven hours?

That is manipulation. I checked each post respectively and there wasn't such case. You compare different days.

I'm comparing everything.

[Kirk Mask]

VOTE: Kay

Well let's do it folks. Take the leap.

[Kirk Mask]

[Kirk Mask]

Hmm my Karma/Kay theory is looking better by the minute

Do you think the data above supports your conclusion?

Namely, 'when does karma sleep?'

[Kirk Mask]

My conclusion:

Spoiler:

Karma has an irregular schedule, and doesn't seem to be either Kay or Komaitsu. Or Me. I think it's Kay and Komaitsu.

[Kirk Mask]

VOTE: Kirk

This is fine. I don't think there's a world where it makes sense to kill me before Kirk, anyway.

Who is my partner?

[Kirk Mask]

Kirk if it is just your instinct I am lynching your instinct tomorrow
Tell me your brain

I have used my brain. The wolf has killed Kim, intending to implicate me. From their point of view, they believed they would lynch me today, and they didn't put much weight on my point of view of the game.

[Kirk Mask]

Like I still think Kay/Karma is the most likely, but Kay/Kitsune is next.

Well, let's see:

[Kirk Mask]

(Using data from after I first showed the time tables is technically bad form, I did it because I didn't want to go through the effort of checking the post numbers near the later parts of the game.)

[Kirk Mask]

[Kirk Mask]

I find it hard to imagine that Karma and Kitsune are the same person, I believe that Kitsune posts when Karma is asleep. I know it's hard to tell from the table.

Also, I've garnered a bit of a townread on Karma when I was rereading some of their posts while doing this.

[Kirk Mask]

They are both irregular though.

It's most likely to be Kay and Komaitsu, or off chance Kitsune and Karma, in my mind.

Since Kay has returned fire, I sure hope it's not Kitsune and Karma

[Kirk Mask]

Kay and Komainu seem a lot more interested in the semicolon/british word stuff, than they are in the time table stuff.

[Kirk Mask]

If you had corrected sentence 2 with a semicolon, which is the most natural correction, it wouldn't mean you were scum, it would just mean I could no longer clear you as much with the semicolon thing, because all three of you are proficient with it.

The exercise was designed to invite you to use a semicolon in sentence two or three, it's two complete sentences that are related enough they maybe don't feel they need to be separate sentences.

Changing the way you type is a very natural thing to do for the wolf in this game; especially when a spotlight is shined on you.

[Kirk Mask]

cmon i wanted komainu

Would you rather I voted for them?

[Kirk Mask]

If we vote out a wolf today, we have an extra lynch to work with tomorrow.

[Kirk Mask]

I'm evaluating my confidence on Kay and Komainu being paired.

Versus the chance that you're tricking here to go for a quick win.

Versus the probability that the rest of the group votes for Kay... which would have to include a self bus if you are town.

[Kirk Mask]

I think I want to hear what Kimitsu has to say. I think it's ok to vote for Komainu today.

[Kirk Mask]

I think looking for similarity against the strengths of someone purposefully playing to not look similar is a waste of effort. I don't think posting times were considered on a bigger picture scale like what I've shown above.

[Kirk Mask]

I want to see if we can vote out Kay with the support of Kitsune and Komainu.

[Kirk Mask]

and the game is won by lynching everyone who is not a fox or Buddhist principle.

How confident are you that it's not Kay and Karma?

[Kirk Mask]

What kind of post restrictions would prevent this? Only allowing players to post during certain times?

[Kirk Mask]

Today we've learned something from my play here.
I pulled out all the stops to point out the wolf team.
My hope is that this is not seen as "unfair".
Everybody started out on an even playing field.

The wolf failed to consider something important.
And I'm not blaming them, persay; it's hard, being the only wolf.
But when you consider what they

could

have done?
Like going to extra lengths to try to mess with the times online.
End of poem, since I never wrote one; Read the first letter of each sentence.

[Kirk Mask]

Imagine that I went to great lengths to make two accounts post at completely different times so it looks like I never sleep (or I actually never sleep), and then I end up posting in a similar way on both accounts.

[Kirk Mask]

You realize we're not in the clear, and Kay is probably going to show up in 3.5 hours and try to guess our identities on that account

[Kirk Mask]

Now i am sure that Kirk&Kay is impossible, because in that case he would hammer already.

I mean Koma&Kirk

If Koma would be Kirk account then he would switch to it and hammer with it.

Yes.

[Kirk Mask]

gg

[Kirk Mask]

I don't get what that means but I wasn't being serious. This is going to flip as wolf.

[Kirk Mask]

Oh, it's a Phoenix Wright thing.

[Kirk Mask]

I'm not too worried about guesses. There's enough town now that even if someone dies, the game won't end. And if Kay knew who we really were, they would have won already.

[Kirk Mask]

You need two people with perfect timing, where he can do it solo. We are on major disadvantage here.

Luckily I never have to sleep.

[Kirk Mask]

Interesting

[Kirk Mask]

Since you don't appear to be blitzing this, I'll consider this tomorrow

[Kirk Mask]

VOTE: Komainu

If you are the wolf, well played. I'm only voting you because the time stamps still suggest that you are a wolf and you didn't have anything to say about them while Kay was alive.

If you are town, then this is going to be an uphill battle for me.

[Kirk Mask]

Sorry y'all. I bombed this game completely.
It's pretty fucked up how this happened though, and I'm surprised porkens wasn't mod killed for it but I guess the nature of the setup really prohibits it.
Porkens, I'm pretty tired of your insane recklessness. consider yourself of my dodge list, and don't join my games.
Thanks to the mod.

Why did you make this post?

[Kirk Mask]

Nope

[Kirk Mask]

I didnt

Wait... who were you?

[Kirk Mask]

My identity can be revealed

I believe it was Kim who was making guesses I wanted to know about

[Kirk Mask]

It would be scummy to point it out by myself but i was the only person here, who used

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[vote][/vote] rather then [v][/v]

I didn't think about that.

[Kirk Mask]

Kirk = Almost50

Nope

[Kirk Mask]

They're both dumb

I noticed this

[Kirk Mask]

Porkens were you in this game?

To me it sounds like he was but he says he didn't make that Kris post

And he does not seem to be kaymainu/karma/kitsune/kirk/kim/kuzko

So was he katrielle? And he fake slipped as kris for some reason

[Kirk Mask]

I skimmed a couple of Porkens ISO from recent games, specifically two of them, linked below.

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... er_sort=Go
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... er_sort=Go

The only two players here who I think are likely to also be run by Porkens are Karma and Kuzco. Karma there just isn't a whole lot from. Kuzco has conveniently been on Kris' butt since the game started. Every single one of his posts has been targetted at Kris or re-voting Kris, almost as if he's playing with TMI. An interesting mechanic to keep in mind is that the lack of content from one scum account results in the replacement of two scum accounts. So I'm torn. Is Kuzco so set on getting rid of his second account so that he can post solely on the first that he will scrape the bottom of the barrel to get town cred for lynching him immediately? Dreading running two accounts so greatly that he explained what he was doing as he was doing it? At this point, I'm unsure. I recognize that the logical solution to the problem in front of me is likely simply the lynch of Kris, and the the most likely scenario for Kuzco scum that is apparent to me is Kris also being scum, which additionally points to Kris being lynched. I might be confbiased slightly, but I need to see more from Kuzco not relating to Kris before I feel I can properly move on.

Actually probably not

So who was Porkens?