It's been pointed out before that being no fun and using pseudovotes to collectively select a neighborhood that will be forced to destroy itself is better EV than playing normally. This is a lot more workable in this variant of the setup because theres an odd number of neighborhoods.
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Hi Morning Tweet.
It's been pointed out before that being no fun and using pseudovotes to collectively select a neighborhood that will be forced to destroy itself is better EV than playing normally. This is a lot more workable in this variant of the setup because theres an odd number of neighborhoods.
this setup is based on a shitpost I made once"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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That's exactly right Morning Tweet!
In the previous version of the setup with 3 hoods you need a 4/6 consensus to actually vote a hood which is kind of similar to getting one defector in a hood to be the 4th vote and social deduction wise even though the EV is different the gameplay on that is Weird and Hard to actually trade in your 1/4th and get 1/2. But in this case we have like the 3 people from the towniest hood able to render judgement on which of the two other hoods is the scummier one and the democracy works out smoothly without gridlock and deadline panics"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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I'm gonna hold some comment about the events in my hood for a bit"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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I think the way Tommy Two Times is trying so hard in the PT to keep him engaged with the game is scummy. Yes they would have a scum PT but he keeps trying to paint me like a meanie and it seems like he wants to prove they can control the PT so that he won't lurk out
Also specifically I called him "lousyballbowl", anyone who wants me to use their username has to pick a name that doesn't imply "watch middleaged men watch replay footage" is a sport
I don't want him to lurk out either I need to figure out if I have the red PT
He has homework regarding whether Morning Tweet is towny or scummy and there are wrong and right answers"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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I asked him how he reads Morning tweet and if he disagrees with my own secret opinion he will be Punished"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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TOMMY IF YOU PARAPHRASE MY META POST FROM THE PT I WILL SELFVOTE IMMEDIATELY"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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Don't capitulate to Rouge's inexorable requests for information"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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Morning tweet name one thing you have done in your neighborhood to sort your compatriots"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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I don't know who town is besides my own slot. You shouldnt either. Your mixture of scumclaim wifom and sorting looks ugly to me.In post 51, Auro wrote:I trust that both my partners are town. Are you scum Isis?"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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Why is your headspace at the universe where we didn't immediately win, auto? Is it because that step necessarily happens on all your paths to victory?"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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Post 58 is the scummiest post in the game thread"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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Faith is not how mafia works
Also it's the least fun way to play a setup since if you have faith in your teammates you can't play Conspiracy in your hood.
I hesitate to believe Auto dislikes fun so much he would choose faith"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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Which is a desirable outcome, that we can get immediately by having a good day one the democracies out a worst hoodIn post 67, Auro wrote:
Because then the game just ends?In post 64, Isis wrote:Why is your headspace at the universe where we didn't immediately win, auto? Is it because that step necessarily happens on all your paths to victory?
Spending time discussing day 2, when you won't be silenced for it anyway, is bizarre and shows a scum train of thought"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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I can't rule that out but the pattern would be Slayer's Gambit fmpov and I don't have a strong enough towngames to both find scum better than rand and avoid misprosecuting slayers gambitsIn post 70, Auro wrote:
Does Auro ever talk out of his ass to see how other people react?In post 69, Isis wrote:Faith is not how mafia works
Hmm"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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You realize stumping a good quickly means more jury pandering day2 instead of more unbiased impressions of day1
You shouldn't be that excited about moving to that phase.
Can you get one of your neighbors to townspew so I can stop concern?
Wait it takes both"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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I want both partners to confirm"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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Drew wouldn't if he didn't consider as important as I consider it. Tweet would, but that's my favorite partner for you."Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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IF I HAD A DAYVIG, GUN TO HEAD, I WOULD USE IT ON AURO IN THIS MOMENT"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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I am playing puzzles and dragons ranking dungeon!!"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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VOTE: gobbeldygook"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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Why do you do this to me adorable!?!?!?"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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That might be how your neighborhood works"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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I can't tell if you're townslipping or trying to fill me and it stresses me out"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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Can someone post a hood membership summary? Why does my phone autocorrect the word "hood" to good, it's a hecking English word independent from it's use as an abbreviation good grief.
Can autocorrect be disabled?"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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I think Drew is town"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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Can someone please post a summary of who is in what good (or just what their own hood is) so I can start making votecounts?In post 153, Auro wrote:That actually makes sense, I guess only scum would focus on hoods anyway. If you're lurking in the hood it's town indicative.
Superbowl seems towny on the last page."Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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This is wrong.In post 142, gobbledygook wrote:
I just like don’t know how this helps us either? Basically the game depends on the lone townie in the scumhood to be able to catch the scum, or at least properly relay information into the main thread. Do you think the information relayed into the main thread by the other hood has indicated they are town?In post 140, Doctor Drew wrote:
Lol, no one knows what is going on there.In post 139, gobbledygook wrote:
What are you even asking here?In post 138, Doctor Drew wrote:Turkey, spill the beans on your hood.
VOTE: Doctor Drew
Barely any activity in main thread from you guys.
So, spill the beans.
Day 1 we democratically vote on a hood that is scummiest in the aggregate. Then a townie in that hood selfvotes. This method has the highest EV.
I don't want any of you selfvoting before we do this"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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Page 33 has only one or two posts that aren't the hangman game but the other two should be summarizable"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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VOTE: hood 3"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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Why do you want to vote my hood?"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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Why is Gobble's hood town? I think you're pretty likely to internalize the 6/7th 1/7th skew on your own, so that's less interesting to me."Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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5 stable votes on one hood yeah
Galron which player are you conspiring against."Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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It's not impossible for Adorable to both be scum and not realize it was possible she could have randed scum with someone from a different hood."Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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Why do you townread Gobbles? Why is it like pulling teeth to get content from you Auro, this is like my third question this lineIn post 204, Auro wrote:
I nearly locktown read Gobbles, and Adorable feels town from what little content is hereIn post 200, Isis wrote:Why is Gobble's hood town? I think you're pretty likely to internalize the 6/7th 1/7th skew on your own, so that's less interesting to me."Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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I misspoke wading through hypotheticals and counter factuals trying to explain my point. I was saying adorable could be scum with a hoodmate and be unsure whether she had the possibility of randing scum with a crosshood mate."Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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I want to read this thread
but pandora is picking up her string in her mouth and dropping it on my mousepad and purring for me to play"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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This reads tremendously bad faith.. I selected a post restriction for that game before alignment rollsIn post 238, gobbledygook wrote:I think my hood is town. Personally I think it’s Isis hood because she does weird role play things as scum (see weird Hydra game) and I think her neighborhood does not have 40 pages in it.
That said, Morning Tweet is not inspiring a lot of confidence in that hood.
I care more about believing you genuinely had this thought than refuting it, could you be more specific or maybe outline how you think my play in both games is influenced by a scum wincon?"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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i want everyone to know I have never seriously considered selfvoting and any suggestions of such have been a rhetorical device
i have many eyebrows for people who say they do and take it past rhetoric"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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Ok I caught up again.
Auro's demonstrative efforts to do have visually townish reactions all game looks very theatrical and has such a jerky progression that I think it's really, really unlikely he's town. Unfortunately I'm starting to think Drew is more likely the partner than Tweet which makes this pretty much an L.
I don't think superbowl is very likely scum here, but I don't know of any compelling reason to townread Tommy and I don't think I've been very obviously town this game due to like, not being enthused. Also, it kind of starts to feel more boring and less interesting the more I feel like Auro is just openwolfing, and from my point of view that is the last relevant informational point of the game?
I don't really understand why gobble selfed like that but I guess it's kind of a postgame discussion"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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Sure I do, do you quote RVS votes for the told-you-so's in your normal queues?In post 334, gobbledygook wrote:You don’t get to vote my hood and then act surprised when it flips.
I don't think I would have settled on a hood three hammer. I'm not positive."Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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Gobble can fluff his feathers all he wants, but I think TTT's gambit was protown and I don't think Auro's handling of his own skepticism of our hood description has shown a town alignment. It's on the laundry list."Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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What does that have to do with the price of tea in China?In post 339, Auro wrote:
I just wanted confirmation - to show that Isis' accusation of me "open wolfing" is pretty lameIn post 337, superbowl9 wrote:LMAO come on man.... 40 pages? Also Isis directly contradicted me on my argument summary"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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It was argument ad absurdum. I'm very fond of it.In post 344, gobbledygook wrote:
So you’re saying your vote then was an RVS vote?In post 338, Isis wrote:
Sure I do, do you quote RVS votes for the told-you-so's in your normal queues?In post 334, gobbledygook wrote:You don’t get to vote my hood and then act surprised when it flips.
I don't think I would have settled on a hood three hammer. I'm not positive.
There is some parallels to an RVS vote in that I was more interested in what would develop than I was interested in razing your particular neighborhood.
It created reactions to townread and scumread. There's too much finesse to try to convince others to my exact take, but Auro's stance towards the implausible characterization of the events of the hood matched what I'd expect him to do as scum more than town. In particular, he had the street smarts to dismantle it far earlier yet didn't do so yet wants to later join the camp insisting it was anti-town. He's ungullible enough he's essentially complicit to it.In post 345, gobbledygook wrote:
How was it protown?In post 340, Isis wrote:Gobble can fluff his feathers all he wants, but I think TTT's gambit was protown and I don't think Auro's handling of his own skepticism of our hood description has shown a town alignment. It's on the laundry list.
What do you mean by Auro’s skepticism?
You’re a far cry in this game from the town monster ive seen you be
I don't know what you mean by town monster, I don't think I have a good record as town, and my energy for games isn't well correlated to my alignment. I'm doing like six other games right now and while I feel bad that I find a lot of them of them more interesting than this one, I'm pulling out all of the stops in spite of being a villain in this one, pulling a gambit I haven't tried yet and everything, possibly regretting it honestly but I don't think it's a balanced game anyway.
I feel like Tommy would do a gambit that's protown even though he was scum just because it was sufficiently pro-lulz, especially since I'm envisioning him as a Hectic alt at this point. It is town-indicative to me, just not of sufficient magnitude to be "compellingly" so.In post 354, Adorable wrote:
I've never played with Auro before and don't know how he plays as scum. I would expect scum Auro to focus on my hood to tree stump first since gobbles and Galron were getting scum read the most and Auro wanted your hood to be the first to tree stump.In post 332, Isis wrote:Ok I caught up again.
Auro's demonstrative efforts to do have visually townish reactions all game looks very theatrical and has such a jerky progression that I think it's really, really unlikely he's town. Unfortunately I'm starting to think Drew is more likely the partner than Tweet which makes this pretty much an L.
I don't think superbowl is very likely scum here, but I don't know of any compelling reason to townread Tommy and I don't think I've been very obviously town this game due to like, not being enthused. Also, it kind of starts to feel more boring and less interesting the more I feel like Auro is just openwolfing, and from my point of view that is the last relevant informational point of the game?
I don't really understand why gobble selfed like that but I guess it's kind of a postgame discussion
I disagree with this. Tommy's gambit did not look protown at all and it looked scummy. On the first post quoted above you said you don't have any compelling reason to town read Tommy and now over here you say Tommy's gambit was protown. Which is it? This looks like you are defending a scum buddy.In post 340, Isis wrote:Gobble can fluff his feathers all he wants, but I think TTT's gambit was protown and I don't think Auro's handling of his own skepticism of our hood description has shown a town alignment. It's on the laundry list.
I would like the record to show that if I have a scumpartner I want it to be superbowl, superbowl is a gee and I hope to play with him again after I'm through throwing this townsided setup to the mafia.
No one should self vote before the stump-hood majority votes on which hood suicides. It's an EV difference of 50%>25%. Please no (additional) FakeGod dance setup PoV doesn't matter throws"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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Hypocrisy is not scummy, never has been, never will be, most common and sad logical fallacy that rips its way across mafia threads constantly. It's just literally not a thing. If the moderator announces at the start of a micro that there is one scum in the first three players in a playerlist and the other scum in the latter six, it's "hypocritical" for player 1 to vote 2 or 3 and that's absolutely what they should be doing."Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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Open wolfing doesn't have anything to do with lynch all liars as a concept or anything, it just means someone is obvscum.
I mean if it's supposed to mean something different from that maybe I shouldn't use the term, it's kind of new school so I don't know. I just think when someone seems to be clearly scum and then continues to post with the style that was scummy to begin with I think of it as "openwolfing""Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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In post 362, Auro wrote:You were calling my play "open wolfing" while brazenly lying about the happenings of your hood, that hypocrisy is scummy, etc
??????In post 364, Auro wrote:I haven't said you're scummy for the hypocrisy, I just said you're being hypocritical though"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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Could you honestly say who your partner is if you're scum Auro, superbowl is cranky with me in the hood that I doesn't have a partner planned out for you.
I will be fair, if I am scum, I am scum with superbowl."Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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no no no i'm going to report my findings to superbowl and he is going to let sit on the couch during football even though it's clean and feed me snacks during halftime.
If you are town in this game I'd have no faith in myself picking between the tweet-drew and tommy-bowl universes and would be happy to proxy that judgment to turkey crew, that's for sure."Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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I would like to reach across the aisle of alignments for solidarity in punishing suboptimal mechanical play"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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He's literally my bestie"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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Morning Tweet this is a safe space we would never get in touch with the individual who has a signed copy of your leasing agreement you can safely tell us what nonnegative integer number of batlings you have."Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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Remember that time we played permanent marker
and we learned how mafia is always a safe space"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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Doctor Drew how would you say you are playing differently from Autobattler in this game?"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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Ok ok Paragon posted lots of pictures of mice but Paragon is not in this game, otherwise mafia is safe. I didn't post a bunch of mice pics"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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I did not torture you at all. I just informed you that your actions in the game had consequences. It was only a providing of information.
I would not say my scumread of Auro is a metaread. A little of it is, but like, mostly he's classically scummy. I'm 1/2 reading him and wouldn't have a reason to feel confident."Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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Turkey the superbowl is always played on thanksgiving, therefore you should not vote for superbowl's hood to die."Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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I think if you were town here you'd be less likely to need to look up the game. Town uses emotional memory"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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I don't actually believe you scumread me and that's really problematic"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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How could you possibly know I would scumread any response you gave? There are responses from you that would make the differences seem less scum-indicative. It wasn't the response I got."Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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You scumread me last time too"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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Im not sure there's two stumps willing to change their mind anyway"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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