Newbie 2014: Aesthetic | Game Over

[ArthurConyl]

Tbh Mikul has about 60% of the posts so far, slow it down please. Can't keep up!
VOTE: Mikul
I know this is a dodgy tactic but I promise to unvote if you slow down...

[ArthurConyl]

Wait, I can't do that, we're still in the RVS. Literally just realised that's the third vote on Mikul. Better UNVOTE: Mikul
VOTE: Anthony, because there can only be one A-man...

[ArthurConyl]

Idk why you quoted that but I'm not scum and probably a noob, this is my second game.

[ArthurConyl]

@Mikul Alright, I do agree this game is a little too quiet. Spam away I guess.
@looter Same question as votato, why would you lynch me?

[ArthurConyl]

So a few quick little reads:
@Mikul - leaning scum? - I'm not sure about flooding, but imo scum tend to do it a lot so town can't keep up. Yoy say flooding is a bad thing, although you're doing that yourself. Metareading isn't always reliable, but it can be useful. I did a quick metaread of your last game - as scum you were pretty confident and overjustifying things. Kinda similar to how you're behaving right now.
@Looter - neutral - Well he wants to lynch me and I'm still waiting for a reply. Also voted Mikul earlier based on metareading? Not really strong enough to lynch someone on.
Everyone else needs to post more.

[ArthurConyl]

And I'll pull my vote from Anthony UNVOTE: Anthony
Best if we get out of RVS quickly.

[ArthurConyl]

VOTE: Town looter You've stated you want to lynch me without reason, and also voted Mikul pretty early in the game over metareading. Also you've stated you'll be lurking the whole game. Loads of anti-town plays that scum would do.

FoS: Town looter

[ArthurConyl]

I think you're misreading me being anxious in those first two, I honestly didn't want Mikul to flood and also honestly didn't see he had 2 votes on him. Guess that's me being a doofus. As for the last one, I probably missed the joke? Even if it was a joke, its still anti-town to lurk.

[ArthurConyl]

@mikul:
Calm down, spamming is subjective. He might see it as spam while you don't. And I disagree with you calling that lazy, excessively flooding makes it hard even for active players to keep up. And flooding *is* a legit strat used by scum, so no need to get offended by mutesea.

@town looter:
All your "good reasoning" is me voting and unvoting Mikul. As for scum not picking up on jokes thats bullshit, I'll bet you're making that up. Cmon, give me at least two examples of that.
FOS'ing brass for noting a well known fact is unreasonable.
To clarify on the lurking, I thought it would be anti-town if you did that. I made a mistake missing the joke and I admit to it.
So really all you have to go on me is:
1) Me not picking up on a joke
2) Me unvoting because I realised I'd put Mikul on L-2. If he only had one vote on him, I would not have unvoted.

[ArthurConyl]

We don't really seem to be getting anywhere with this and I got what I wanted out of Town looter.
Despite the fact he was defending me, I find @brassherald's last post scummy:

Before we get in this fight, let's remember that tone is hard to read on the internet. Because it's text. Which is why Mark Twain could report on a caveman being discovered in the mountains and people didn't get the joke.

The reason I find that scummy is that he's been inactive for so far, then jumps out with this neutral, peace keeping post. Gives me the impression of a scum who wants to keep his head down and keep things chill.
Anything to say about it?

[ArthurConyl]

@mod, you didn't have to do that. Now my post is disconnected

I'm sorry! - MOD

[ArthurConyl]

I agree with that, but forgive me for keeping an eye on him. And my question to @brassherald still stands.

@mod, are you sure you got the votes right? Pretty sure town looter voted for me.

[ArthurConyl]

@mod, correction: it was votato who voted for me.

[ArthurConyl]

Going to repost so people can see it:

@town looter and @votato:

All your "good reasoning" is me voting and unvoting Mikul. As for scum not picking up on jokes thats bullshit, I'll bet you're making that up. Cmon, give me at least two examples of that.
FOS'ing brass for noting a well known fact is unreasonable.
To clarify on the lurking, I thought it would be anti-town if you did that. I made a mistake missing the joke and I admit to it.
So really all you have to go on me is:
1) Me not picking up on a joke
2) Me unvoting because I realised I'd put Mikul on L-2. If he only had one vote on him, I would not have unvoted.

[ArthurConyl]

@Porkens, You've made some nice points in your catchup, I'll address some of them:
You questioned my unvoting of Mikul, because it put him at L-2. Generally I'm not comfortable with putting someone there, especially in RVS. Now I think about it, it probably did look dodgy and possible scummy.

"This isn’t a good defense as scum or town. It’s a minor point you could let go by, but you are picking it as the hill to die on. Just blow it off with a lol and scumhunt elsewhere. Remember that town don’t need to get wrapped up in defending themselves, and scum can corner a defensive towny fairly easily."
That's probably just me, I tend to overdefend everything. Still seems a bit counterintuitive to me that defending myself less looks more townie, then again still getting used to mafiascum.

@town looter/votato/Mikul,
If you're going vote me for being defensive, sure go ahead. I will say that I act that way normally. If you have the time, do a metaread of my first game. The situation is pretty similar - I did something slightly dodgy at the start, I acted defensively and got lynched me on D2. Think about that first. I do have a suspicion one of the guys on my wagon is scum.

[ArthurConyl]

A suspicion, I don't want to start naming. Mainly because I seem to be drawing loads of heat for something minor I did at the start of the game.

@Town looter, At the start you seemed to be scumreading me the most. You were giving reasons for me being anxious etc., and stated several times you wanted to lynch me. Why not just put your vote down and be down with it? Then you seemed to backtrack and say 'oh maybe he's not scum, but I still think he is.' You not being able to put your vote down makes me scumread you.

[ArthurConyl]

My point is I shouldn't have that much pressure on me in the first place.

[ArthurConyl]

Are you just asking people not to vote you? Of so, what's the reasoning behind the request?

I am asking people to consider that my being defensive is how I naturally play, before they decide to vote me.

[ArthurConyl]

Hilarious, that was kinda the opposite effect my post was supposed to have.

[ArthurConyl]

Anyone else want to vote me? I'm done with this game. Actually surprised at how smart people think they are, considering all they know is shit. One more vote please. It really do be a case of if town is this dumb, they don't deserve to win. One little tidbit I'll leave you with is that brass just then gave me the strongest scum read. Strategically puts me at L-2, doesn't draw too much attention to himself and gives a half-arsed reason why.

[ArthurConyl]

So Mikul wants reads, I will do that before self-hammering.
Mikul - leaning town. Seemed pretty good getting reads, analysed a fair bit as well.
Town looter - leaning scum. Seemed to be pushing hard at the start, never put a vote down, now he pushes for L-1.
Brassherald - acting like an idiot voting for me like that, but not scum. Feels like townie who thinks he's a smart ass.
Porkens - needs more posts to tell.
votato - leaning town
Anthony - needs more posts.
Au revoir, may the best team win (probably scum at this point).
VOTE: Arthur