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Probably a good plan then. Hope that Tracker/Vig agrees.In post 633, Marashu wrote:
for the plan? pseudo-investigative, and also to keep the Hider's identity hidden. If the hider suddenly dies, we'd know who they were targeting without outing who they were. If they suddenly die in a later night, then that will confirm the players from previous days without needing to come out and say they are clear.In post 632, PenguinPower wrote:What was the rationale for that?
for the objection? This plan has a false positive if the Hider visits the Vigilante, but this is resolved if we have a Tracker instead of a Vigilante. Midari seemed convinced that we would have a vigilante, or at least didn't think it obvious that we should have a Tracker.<(") | (")>- PenguinPower
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In post 639, votato wrote:i dunno, i kinda think the midari slot is town at this point?
Interesting turnaround.In post 641, votato wrote:my guess based on that would be that midari is scum and the two other wagons are counterwagons. it implicates BM? not my area of expertise and also i dunno how much we can learn pre-flip.<(") | (")>- PenguinPower
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I should be exactly 85%. Why Marashu?In post 643, Battle Mage wrote:
I'm digging you already. And you've dropped from 99% scum to 80% scum. So you should probably join me with a:In post 629, PenguinPower wrote:What do I need to know because I'm not reading 25 pages worth of stuff?
VOTE: Marashu
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Meh - it’s D1 and I don’t agree. Watch for the color coding in later phases.In post 650, superbowl9 wrote:Also I'm not very partial to VCA but TM's post gets a few townpoints for me. Just putting VCs out there and not making a case with them seems town - if scum does this type of work they will want to make a case off of it imo.
(still could come from any alignment)<(") | (")>- PenguinPower
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Sorry that I know you’re wrong? Not sure what you would expect me to do if I was town then.In post 667, Doctor Drew wrote:
Not sure the exact start tbh.In post 665, PenguinPower wrote:I mean - I’m not and can’t defend stuff I didn’t say.
Doesn’t seem like the slam dunk you think it is unless there more though (despite my slight bias).
Did the Midari wagon start around post 400?
And listen, I think your slot is scum, and scum is going to try to invalidate the wagon on them. I feel like you are setting me up here.
Curious as to the start since you said you’ve been on since the beginning and you only quoted posts after 400.<(") | (")>- PenguinPower
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I don't think Tux should get town points for an info dump D1.In post 710, superbowl9 wrote:You disagree with me not liking VCA or with my townpoints?<(") | (")>- PenguinPower
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Avatar bet from SUPP to my knowledge.In post 712, Looker wrote:Is there a fascination with anime that someone could sum up?<(") | (")>- PenguinPower
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I find it somewhat ironic that you are pushing Nash...the 12 post lurker.In post 706, ceejayvinoya wrote:Ugh this game is boring me to tears.
Here's an idea. Let's uh eliminate Nash, since you all can't agree on Midari vs marashu anyway.<(") | (")>- PenguinPower
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tyIn post 720, superbowl9 wrote:
Gl famIn post 714, PenguinPower wrote:@mod: sorry to do this straight after coming in, but I need a v/la for the next 48-72 hours. Just got out of the ER. I'll still be around, but not as active as I would usually.<(") | (")>- PenguinPower
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I haven't played a Newbie since I became the NQ Listmod, so I can't help you there!In post 758, Aristophanes wrote:Man, I haven't played in a newbie game in a while. PenguinPower, save me!
You can join my townbin though. scum!Ari isn't this verbose.<(") | (")>- PenguinPower
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Speakeasy User Popularity Poll. 2020 just wrapped up, and the losers of the top 10 bet have to have anime avatars from the winner.In post 773, Looker wrote:Who's SUPP?<(") | (")>- PenguinPower
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My issue is it's just links to other people's opinions...so yeah. Follow up will be good.In post 772, Aristophanes wrote:I mean, I appreciate the post by Nash, but I also hope they follow it up with some responses.<(") | (")>- PenguinPower
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I mean - I kinda just gave them? Scum almost certainly bussed and you three are in the typical bus positions.In post 1002, Battle Mage wrote:I'm guessing you don't have any reasons?
Prove me wrong.In post 987, PenguinPower wrote:I'm offended you think so little of me.
You thinking I'm scum means that I was a counterwagon to my partner and made no effort to get towncred by bussing him nor did I try to move the wagon elsewhere. That's extremely suboptimal play.<(") | (")>- PenguinPower
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Almost everything can be handwaved as WIFOM. I'm just going by probability based on current site meta.In post 1009, superbowl9 wrote:#1 this is WIFOM (also why VCA kinda sorta sucks) and #2 you seem quite sure that bussing would be the optimal play for scum - I don't view this as the case. I think you could still make a case for town (or not scum) Mara and be fine as scum (*cough* word *cough*)
Fun note: my most recent completed game actually goes against this view, but that's an anomaly.<(") | (")>- PenguinPower
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Sorry you fell in that spot? I didn't read most of the game, but where did you invent the wagon?In post 1010, Battle Mage wrote:Gimme a break dude. I basically invented the Marashu-wagon. The likelihood of me bussing like that, in that spot, in this format, is pretty slim. Is it possible? Of course. But to have me as one of your top suspects today is ridiculous. Your justification here is superficial and low effort - I know you are better than this.<(") | (")>- PenguinPower
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Correct. I play by gut/tone and votes. Reading stuff from when I wasn't here doesn't really help.In post 1022, Battle Mage wrote:
I'm sure you don't want to get into a playstyle discussion given your ethos of not reading the game.In post 1018, PenguinPower wrote:I don't want to devolve this into a playstyle discussion, but....you're wrong.
Rant away in MD.
If you want to help, you can point out what you're referring to for your argument otherwise I'm just going to ignore it.<(") | (")>- PenguinPower
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I’ve already said because of wagon positioning. Couple that with the push on Maru’s counterwagon (Hi! Me) until eod, it doesn’t look good. I’m also biased that he voted me shortly after I put him in my pool and his vca explanation on looker/magiepoo doesn’t really grok.
Ari! Give me something before you disappear plskthx. I liked you yesterday...I’m iffy today.<(") | (")>- PenguinPower
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Maybe because despite lots of words you're still wrong? Or because you used lots of words to say something that could be done in relatively few?In post 1063, superbowl9 wrote:When you write an essay about stopping WIFOM VCA and everyone keeps arguing WIFOM VCA
Maybe.
Your end premise
is basically saying what I said was valid because I didn't say "all cases," I said "almost certainly" and "probable."In post 1029, superbowl9 wrote:I see this as a valid interpretation - the only thing I would point out is that to use this logic in *all* cases would be to ignore the possibility of a WIFOM action, which would be naive. To say that scum *always* bus in such a situation would be firstly incorrect and secondly a poor assumption to work off of, even if true.
I don't think I gel with most of the PL tbh. I'm a VT.
There, now that's out the way.
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I'm talking about probability from my experience over a couple of hundred games over the past few years. I'm applying that general probability to this instance. So, I think you're objectively wrong in your assumption that it's 50/50 there. I don't think you have to be familiar with the meta for it to be the action that you gravitate to. There's a reason why it's been a popular action. Hard disagree with the way eod went down and Mara not being the clear lynch, especially given the posting level and the main drivers.
I already said I wasn't going to debate this point, so this will be the last I comment on it.<(") | (")>- PenguinPower
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