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I'm here. I'll read up tomorrow hopefully. I just need to get into the game well enough to understand what the hell I am doing here.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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This is the second time you've put my reads as above others and it is day 1. I'll give you a tip, BM is likely town bc of the wagon reactions.In post 584, mastina wrote:VOTE: Battle Mage
Fixing broken vote.
Also, should be noted--I believe Titus is good at reading Shiro, yes? (Shiro/Titus, feel free to weigh in there.) If I end up trusting Titus as town, and if my memory of this is accurate (that Titus can read Shiro well), then if Titus develops a Shiro stance, I'll probably sheep it.
@Starbuck, mastina's look at me meta is an indication of her mental and physical health usually speaking and particularly early.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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I might have hammered if I thought BM was scum.In post 585, mastina wrote:
If I counted correctly, the two votes already there + Panther/Fox + BM + Shiro + myself actually equals 6/7, so:In post 584, mastina wrote:VOTE: Battle Mage
Fixing broken vote.
Also, should be noted--I believe Titus is good at reading Shiro, yes? (Shiro/Titus, feel free to weigh in there.) If I end up trusting Titus as town, and if my memory of this is accurate (that Titus can read Shiro well), then if Titus develops a Shiro stance, I'll probably sheep it.
Battle Mage is at L-1.
Bit closer than I thought, but not a lynch.
Battle Mage cannot self-hammer because he's already voting himself and if Panzer hammers BM then regardless of BM's alignment we lynch Panzer tomorrow, so I don'tthinkwe're at risk of him being lynched prematurely, butstill, something to keep in mind.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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VC please mod. Also what does (L) mean in the VC?ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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Unvote yes but I understand if you don't bc I catch up by jumping in once I get the setupIn post 591, Tipsy wrote:are u onna do a longer catchup? owuld you like me to unvote?ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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I don't like BM not having a counterwagon evidently. What is the case on him?ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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In the sense one came after the other but that's not what I mean by counterwagon. I'm meaning a competing wagon. There just isn't one and that sends up red flags unless the case is immensely strong.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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I want to cuddle BM and tell him it'll be ok regardless of his alignment. He reminds me of when I started. Also, mastina wasn't disrespecting me as a player. She knows I hate meta but my hating meta still has more meta knowledge than most.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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I like meta.In post 643, Battle Mage wrote:In post 640, Titus wrote:I want to cuddle BM and tell him it'll be ok regardless of his alignment. He reminds me of when I started. Also, mastina wasn't disrespecting me as a player. She knows I hate meta but my hating meta still has more meta knowledge than most.
In Saw Mafia, you were town and you were nice and reasonable to me, despite the fact i was being a twat.
In GPick Mafia, you were scum and tried to kill me to death because I had a post restriction and couldn't defend myself.
Easy townread innit.[/quote
It shouldn't be. That's exactly how meta shouldn't be used. If you use meta, it's about personality and deviations from their personal meta. Here, your argument boils down into Titus is not coming after me so she must be town.
Why can't I be scum whiteknighting you?ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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Shiro can I has cookie? I need one if we're lynching BM. Humility would go a long way but BM is being very self-righteous. That being said, I think BM is town who thinks he's got the game solved.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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BM, can you give a readslist? If and when you flip town, I'll go through the thread and point out any logically fallacies and how you got to those conclusions in a private PT or my PC notes if the mod lets me have one. I never read upon subbing in so this is a huge reachout as I want you to get better than me eventually.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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I need a detailed readslist from you to make that happen though BM.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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Well this is a pleasant surprise Panther. Nice to see you. Please give Fox my well wishes, whomever they are.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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Oh yeah. Mastina's done that again. Ok.In post 665, MariaR wrote:
I'll do just that. Thanks Titus. It was a shame I couldn't scream in glee when I saw you. It was also making me pull my hair out having to pretend I had no idea that Mastina fakes mason claims every other game.In post 664, Titus wrote:Well this is a pleasant surprise Panther. Nice to see you. Please give Fox my well wishes, whomever they are.
Since Fox isn't here, can you give me a general rundown of your viewpoints and his/her last ones?ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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That's considered cheating. Mods cannot use their abilities in a game that regular players cannot.In post 669, Tipsy wrote:lol u can literally look up who i am, ms. modShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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I don't mind killing any 3p claims if serious.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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#skepticalIn post 673, MariaR wrote:Panzer is aligned with no one atm but once they're hit with 3 night actions they're turned into town.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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I mostly TR BM, but not locktown for two reasons. One, no one is trying to save him. Two, he reminds me of me when I started with the cocksure confidence and the belief that people aren't listening if they don't agree.In post 679, Shiro wrote:@Titus Why do you townread him?ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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BM, it wasn't far to catch up. #worryfaceShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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There goes my reach out attempt to BM.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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Yeah, I am so not reading up now and my VCA definitely cannot be done on mobile.In post 764, PJ. wrote:
Yes. I also need to triple check replacements. I lowkey just want to start the whole game over with this player list since ita like....a whole new game.In post 761, JacksonVirgo wrote:
I am assuming titus replaced suji, if so I havne't got that far in my catchup yet.In post 760, PJ. wrote:Sujimichi was wack but this is the most pro-town titus has possibly ever been?ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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When you do your future page catchups can you avoid pronouns? It's hard to tell what you're saying without having a srparate tag for the posts. This makes it very hard to follow your thought process.In post 755, JacksonVirgo wrote:Final pages will be done later gotta do some chores around the house, very fun.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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His subbing out rather than giving me a detailed readslist does give me pause, just a little bit.In post 773, Shiro wrote:
No need to, he is scumIn post 765, Titus wrote:There goes my reach out attempt to BM.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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VOTE: Deimos27
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Yeah we're disagreeing here. I haven't read the early game but this is just handwaiving of Deimos's recent play as real life issues alone. Anyone can start out strong then faulter. Talk to me here.In post 807, mastina wrote:Deimos is locktown here for good reason. While Deimos's later contributions to the game may be lackluster, this is easily explained by the fact that Deimos is V/LA currently and is struggling to keep up with the game now. If you look at Deimos's earlier content, it is self-evident that when Deimos isn't busy, when Deimos isn't V/LA, he's plain and simply, town. Period.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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Deimos is not VLA and seems to be keeping up just fine.In post 800, mastina wrote:Your gut is very very wrong; Deimos is town. Sadly, busy, unfortunately so. Deimos's V/LA is unfortunate and I have a bad feeling Deimos might end up being replacement #10 due to said V/LA and lack of ability to be here more readily. But I assure you, Deimos is very much town in spite of the V/LA and were that V/LA absent this would become far more readily apparent.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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I'd like you to elaborate on the underlined and on your Deimos read.In post 801, beeboy wrote:So to address the good part of the post.
You tunnel in on the fact that reads being stagnant isn't a scum tell for you.
But that wasn't my point, my point was that yourpost towards Titus doesn't make sense coming from someone with stagnant reads. Like you are doing X while thinking Y which makes you scum.
And your response is, "Doing X isn't a scum tell". Sure you wouldn't be wrong but I am not arguing that.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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Why?In post 817, PJ. wrote:can we just vote out mastina? thanksShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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I will vote mastina only if needed to progress the game. I think she's town here, but I am open to reassessing.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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Catboi, who is scum? Who is town?ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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Join me catboi. I'd like to know I am not alone on this one. That's the problem. The only good wagon I feel is Demois. The rest I'd just be meh whatever.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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I kinda wouldn't mind a flashwagon here. I can hope right?
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Mastina, why did you say this Now as opposed to when I asked you pages ago? Why should I believe you when you fake masons all the time?
Even if I did believe you felt this was genuine, you still haven't made me feel anything beyond mastina is pocketed.
Why should I townread Deimos based on their play?ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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HmmmIn post 971, Tipsy wrote:a list:
my people: mastina, chemist, starbuck
feelin good: beeboy, jacksonvirgo, catboi*
eh: maria, donkey kong, shiro
bleh: titus, panzer, jks
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Why would you search for consensus over scum? Particularly when the only person TRing me is mastina?In post 977, Tipsy wrote:because im trying to find a consensus wagon.
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I like this readslist.In post 1006, Chemist1422 wrote:{Chemist, mastina}
{Titus, catboi, MariaR, JV, DK}
{Starbuck, beeboy, BM}
{Tipsy}
{Shiro, PJ*}
mostly underexplained probably
tipsy slot scumread was mostly gut, PJ scumread is off of setup spec
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I'm in. Tipsy or Shiro are my preferred lynches. There's not enough gifs in this thread.In post 988, PJ. wrote:
Ok, so the solution. To that when trying to find a consensus is to just randomly vote until something sticks? Not vote mastina who has a pile of votes, not vote me, not try to convince others that there's a non-catboi scum player?In post 986, Tipsy wrote:bc im trying to not lynch catboi? lol.
Incredible.
Yo, can we just dunk tipsy if we aren't going to dunk catboi.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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Jks might be scum with Shiro.
I can't be around much but I'll try to check in. Work stuff.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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Yeah I am out. Sorry guys. Court in an hour 20.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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So you'd rather NL?In post 1046, PJ. wrote:I'm morally opposed to a flash wagon on a lurker containing 2 of my 3 biggest scumreadsShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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VOTE: Panzer
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Alright. Why?
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Panzer is obviously scum. We had two realistic choices at the deadline, Shiro or no lynch. Panzer was arguing for no lynch. I am not voting Panzer for being 3p allegedly. I am voting him for his play.In post 1078, Tipsy wrote:Didn't care for Suji. Didn't like your behavior around BM (especially the part where u shaded his slot when he repped out). Don't like that you started the Shiro wagon. Don't like that you started today voting for the easy 3P vote.
I don't regret being wrong on Shiro. Someone had to get a wagon going. I didn't see much anyone else fighting for a wagon, so I did.
As for Battle Mage, I have always townread Battle Mage's slot to varying extent. Sure I had concerns, but those concerns are valid. I ask him to detail his reads and instead he quits. That's not shading. That's taking reality into account and weakening my townread.
Now, are you townreading Panzer? Yes or no. How do you explain his EoD play if not scum?ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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The only reason to no lynch over lynch considering a swap was impossible is that if you know Shiro is town. Panzer was grandstanding. Town knows we needed a lynch to keep going. To me, I don't care if Panzer is 3p or groupscum. The question is whether he's helping town. He isn't even by your own standards. Panzer wasn't lynchable yesterday and you immediately voted me for voting Panzer today. He's not lhf. He's scum or proscum 3p.In post 1080, Tipsy wrote:if by "townreading" you mean "do I buy his 3p claim"...i think on some level he's lying about it. i think its possible he's a 3p that wants to be targeted for reasons other than he becomes town. hell, it might just be his win condition full stop to be targeted a lot. it's also certainly possible he's just groupscum, but i do question if groupscum immediately draws that much attention & ire to themselves with a claim like that.
not sure what about his EoD play substantially suggests groupscum? not saying it was towny either butShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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Point taken. I was just thing in terms of making it eaiser to lynch Panzer.In post 1082, Chemist1422 wrote:It's probably better if we use this audition to activate people's bonuses because public hated doesn't do much right
HURT: Unvote PanzerShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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Mastina, what's your tipsy read? Do you think Panzer and Tipsy are awkwardly distancing? The interaction there is awkward to say the least.
Why is MariaR a good person to activate?
P.S. I'll go out on a limb and say my auction bonus power isn't good in my hands until night 3 or night 4. So I request not to be activated until then whatever the public bonus is [minor exception if it makes my auction power only work on scum, but that's farfetched].ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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You missed this.In post 1091, Titus wrote:Do you think Panzer and Tipsy are awkwardly distancing? The interaction there is awkward to say the least.
I also struggle to see why Tipsy is in your locktown tier.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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Why not?In post 1094, mastina wrote:
Missed implies I didn't see it when I did but thought that my answer was sufficient enough on its own.In post 1093, Titus wrote:
You missed this.In post 1091, Titus wrote:Do you think Panzer and Tipsy are awkwardly distancing? The interaction there is awkward to say the least.
The fact that Tipsy is in my locktown tier is self-sufficient in stating that, no, I do not think that Panzer-Tipsy interactions are scum distancing. If there's scum in there it's Panzer, but those interactions do nothing to make Tipsy look bad regardless of Panzer's alignment.
Tipsy all but says that Panzer isn't being protown but refuses to vote him anyway. Tipsy also says Panzer is even lying about his 3p claim.
Panzer meanwhile immediately practically naked votes Tipsy.
I just don't get how you are handwaiving my concerns mastina. It's frustrating to say the least. You use a lot of words but getting actual conversation out of you is like pulling teeth. If I am wrong, I want you to actually engage my premises rather than just whistlin'.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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Mastina, what is the established evidence you are referring to? I want you you correct me and talk to me, not talk at me. It does nothing to help me sort you or analyze my reads to have you talk to me as if I am beneath you.
The change in your tone towards me is also striking. When Starbuck asked about your meta, you were all glowing about my abilities. Ever since then, you've been taking potshots at me and insinuating I could be scum because of our differing reads.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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The hated expires.In post 1101, catboi wrote:I don't think Tipsy/Panzer is plausible. Also don't think panzer's roleclaim is truthful at this point.
Issue with public hated as an auction bonus is that whoever gets it has to die before LYLO which means it's only worth it if their auction bonus is good.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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@Panzer, Shits and giggles, what's your mastina read?ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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I am reassessing as well. I am trying to figure out who would kill Starbuck imo. Only one person wanting Starbuck dead if they were scum is too simple imo.In post 1105, Chemist1422 wrote:two of my four scumreads are dead and flipped town so I'm not entirely sure where I want to go rn tbhShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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That's my concern. If it is Star's reads, then I am going to have to claim my auction bonus and actually fight to get elected and I don't want to yet.In post 1109, JacksonVirgo wrote:
Honestly, it's probably more of the fact of Stars reads. I forget what exactly they were but I'll look backIn post 1108, Titus wrote:
I am reassessing as well. I am trying to figure out who would kill Starbuck imo. Only one person wanting Starbuck dead if they were scum is too simple imo.In post 1105, Chemist1422 wrote:two of my four scumreads are dead and flipped town so I'm not entirely sure where I want to go rn tbhShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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@Jackson, Why not? Why else would Starbuck be the nightkill?ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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UNVOTE: Panzer
I'm not about to keep my vote on a cop claim. I kinda want to vote Tipsy but I want to see Tipsy talk more to see if Tipsy's stubborn and illogical town or scum trying to plant seeds.
I am not a big fan of Tipsy suddenly posting they want me but lay the groundwork for moving away.
If Tipsy is scum, this will give me time to find the third. I am sitting on who I think Tipsy's partner would be if scum because that's a shot I don't care to take unless 100% right or I am forced.
@Panzer, Will giving you the auction bonus get you another result or remove your restriction?ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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@Panzer, Would a day targeting ensure you get a result?ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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Meh going to sleep on this. I might just be getting myself into a tunnel if I stay up and keep reading on this little sleep.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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Maybe it's time to stop playing safe and start getting real of you think we're that boned.In post 1142, PJ. wrote:
No, but I think the two safest players to give this bonus to are either myself or mastina since we both claimed loved for winning an audition.In post 1128, Titus wrote:@Panzer, Will giving you the auction bonus get you another result or remove your restriction?
@modwhat happens if a player is loved and hated simultaneously?
I have no desire to consider the hated in who should be hurt. We shouldn't be lynching the winner of the bonus anyway. There are useful abilities to be had in these audition bonuses. I know because I have one. I still am not seeking to win today, but we should use these to get information and power.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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Real might not be the right word.In post 1144, PJ. wrote:I already told you the scum team yesterday and today. Not sure how much more "real" you want me to get.
If your scumteam is correct, then we should get the power to verify it. Having a theory is a start. Now we need to prove or disprove it. Using the auction bonuses to do that is better than messing around with loved status.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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