Mini Normal 2154 - Endgame

[WaltertheDunce10]

Hi everyone, how are you all doing?

[WaltertheDunce10]

pagetop yoinked

[WaltertheDunce10]

I find it interesting that Truth claimed, but I am leaning towards nai for now
I like Nash's theory about it maybe being cognitive load though.
Also very fascinating that Lickety quick is town already.

[WaltertheDunce10]

I agree,
plus we can come back to it later.

[WaltertheDunce10]

VOTE: WaltertheDunce10
two completely non-confrontational posts in a row, followed by buddying up to Nash as the first person to have a coherent thought in this thread.
By the way, is there a reason you think it's interesting we have a confirmed town? Is that a thing that you find indicative of the rest of the setup? Actually asking here because I've only ever played a handful of games.
Not that I suggest revealing any specific information (i.e. suspected existence of roles) because, far as I know, that might be too useful for maf. Feel free to inform me otherwise.

For all of you who find truths posts so far deeply jarring, I suggest you look at one of his other normals on here because he somehow made it alive for several days and there’s a lot of very puzzling things about how he played that game

this guy decides to make a "useful" post and it's doing the basic amount of town-work that is skimming previous games.
Not to mention, interesting vote choice after others agreed to ride with truth being nai now. Can't say what that says about who this early, realistically. But if my accuracy is pinpoint, then this split is a symptom.

like, don't get me wrong, I'm not condemning fun. But like, way to go for first impressions guys. these two are my page 3 maf reads. no need to thank me.

I have not been in a game where a person is confirmed off the bat.
Idk.
Although looking through Truth's last game,
Truth,
What is your thought process behind claiming again as a role?

[WaltertheDunce10]

I see frustrated town vides with Osuka for sure, Overki11
LicketySplit, what is your read on Truth so far?

[WaltertheDunce10]

I agree, but I think we should move on from truth as he is a black hole.
I also think that scum could see an easy mislynch
Tunnelling him this phase can only benefit scum as it allows for laser focus or lack of information on scum.
Great video lol Osuka

[WaltertheDunce10]

So looker, do you have reason for voting other than hopping on?

[WaltertheDunce10]

Nash, your reason for Psyche?

[WaltertheDunce10]

Bugspray, What are their thoughts on 171 ?
DO they have a different felling based upon the rebuttal by redtea.

[WaltertheDunce10]

I do think it slight scummy to not reply to it and instead go on about the pronouns, but that is probably a personal issue.

[WaltertheDunce10]

Psyche, do you have any non-truth related thoughts?

[WaltertheDunce10]

Slight scum feeling on bugspray, Psyche
Neutral on truth Overkii Looker
Town Gypyx Nash Osuka Superbowl

[WaltertheDunce10]

Edit Reread of nash puts them neutal with tl due to not understanding why my lurking would be scummy.

[WaltertheDunce10]

Yes, that is true.
Which is why I think Nash is a town lean.

[WaltertheDunce10]

Yeah, but you're saying it like it makes them a lesser townie, have i misunderstood that part?

Yes, because it seems to me that it is pretty clear why people are voting for me.

[WaltertheDunce10]

So looker, do you have reason for voting other than hopping on?

If you're town, we use your wagon as PoE. I also like assessing the votes on competing wagons, i.e. you and bugspray.

I do think it slight scummy to not reply to it and instead go on about the pronouns, but that is probably a personal issue.

Do you think the pronoun outrage is a gimmick/AtE?

Slight scum feeling on bugspray, Psyche
Neutral on truth Overkii Looker
Town Gypyx Nash Osuka Superbowl

Do you typically not vote the people you think are scum?

Alright,
Maybe
I usually wait to vote, but I would like bugspray's response since it seems they ignored it with the second part of your question
VOTE: Bugspray

[WaltertheDunce10]

Bugspray, I would still like an answer to my question.

[WaltertheDunce10]

Truth, why would you want that, it is bizarre.

[WaltertheDunce10]

I think Osuka phsyche is a t v s.

[WaltertheDunce10]

I wanted their response to red teas 171 rebuttal.

[WaltertheDunce10]

That was my question, not really a question though
Duunstraal, any updated reads so far?

[WaltertheDunce10]

Redtea, if s v s why do you think they would have their argument?

[WaltertheDunce10]

I'm aware
I did, but my reread of Nash I realized i needed to see more, tbh I never got why I was singled out by gypx in the end at the time.
I really was not sure where you stood at the time, but are more town since my post.

[WaltertheDunce10]

Lickety, since you are town, when you have caught up on thread, do you have any reads?
Why have you not voted?

[WaltertheDunce10]

superbowl is towny
psyche im still trying to work out tbh
Bugspray seems like possibly an alright kill?
rereading thread to see if I can pick up on anything new, then will post a vote

Could this be a post that overkill meant to post to his mafia thread? He is talking about killing bugspray rather than executing them.

Walter, I want Nash to claim because he is suspicious and it would give him less time to think about his claim later if he is mafia. I would like Nash to say whether he is okay with claiming.

Could be?
K, why does town benefit from a claim that in all likelihood not going to be voted out?
Why give Mafia a free pr / marrow the pool?

[WaltertheDunce10]

It is a really weird state,
I am somehow tied for fourth most posts.
Psyche, bugspray, osuka and gypyx all at 50+ posts
Then me and LQ at 26.
It seems to me that town has some lurjers along with scum,. it is hard to read people based off of so few posts.
Idk if bugspray is ever going to answer redtea's post, it seems to have gone along forgotten or just ignored.

[WaltertheDunce10]

Fifth most posts sorry not fourth

[WaltertheDunce10]

Sorry my back was turned for a bit there. So I don't know what my thoughts on bugspray are at the moment or what all developments have been made, but with this accusation that bugspray hasn't made posts of content followed by a quick skim of their iso, either that is correct or bugspray has been making short but sweet interactions and iirc has definitely made some that fall under the latter. Which brings me to think psyche and osuka are targeting their playstyle and dressing it up as less than it is.
The fact that this is coming from psyche and osuka, two of my biggest sus reads.
I don't know if anyone else's in their corner on this issue rn or not because I have to read shit, but this is definitely affecting my view of them, specifically, and not in a good way.

Redtea, out of the top 5 posters and there has been a disparity, do you believe both are scum ?
To me the chances seem low that both are scum, Which one do you think is most likely?

[WaltertheDunce10]

That is unexpected.

[WaltertheDunce10]

Psyche, do you have a reason to do that ?

[WaltertheDunce10]

I just checked the wiki and it says that ninja is only for serial killer for a normal game?

[WaltertheDunce10]

Nvm thought ninja was only in one categoy

[WaltertheDunce10]

I thought it was just a role but I see it is both.

[WaltertheDunce10]

VOTE: Osuka
If psyche is town then osuak is scum,
I would also be good with truth.

[WaltertheDunce10]

I want to see how bugspray would react to not being at hammer phase.
He just followed my vote along which seems scummy

[WaltertheDunce10]

Because i am slightly suspicious of the claim.

[WaltertheDunce10]

Then who?

[WaltertheDunce10]

I know we have some town lurkers, this is not easy to sort out

[WaltertheDunce10]

Because superbowl my vote has been on him most of day and He has been hard to read.
Agreed, IDK if our D1 elim is going to give out much info anyways as it stands.

[WaltertheDunce10]

K, agreed.
VOTE: bugspray

[WaltertheDunce10]

One omgus vote I see and
K bugspray

[WaltertheDunce10]

If it is true, then competent town should be able to nail a scum d2

[WaltertheDunce10]

One strong role for mafia them?

[WaltertheDunce10]

MAybe he is hoping to draw a tracker cc and nk if scum?

[WaltertheDunce10]

looking through a couple, this may not be 'normal'

[WaltertheDunce10]

Thoughts?
3 ic, this is a strange setup.

[WaltertheDunce10]

If people are on to make that happen maybe, I am curious Osuka, do people that annoy make you want to eliminate them in general?

[WaltertheDunce10]

yes.

[WaltertheDunce10]

Who is pingpong ?

[WaltertheDunce10]

I feel like you are trying to shade tw?
Why would it be peculiar?

[WaltertheDunce10]

Agreed on the cop claim there

[WaltertheDunce10]

No that is an excellent take,
I am not exactly happy with my own d1 play.

[WaltertheDunce10]

I don't think we should quicklynch as that would benefit scum.
pedit, I think I will look through redtea rn.

[WaltertheDunce10]

I read through redtea's iso and his big scum read is psyche who was nked.
Seems to think I am scum at an early point in rvs.
Thinks truth is gimmicky.
Attacks bugspray in post 171, interesting.
Then thinks osuka is scum, interesting.
This is all from the iso ooks town but retrospect has some pretty incorrect reads.

[WaltertheDunce10]

It looks town at first but gives out few reads and scumreads two town.
Possible scum for me
Redtea that is.

[WaltertheDunce10]

Yes agreed,
VOTE: Dunnstral

[WaltertheDunce10]

The the worst post above mine,
Although truth is definitely on my watch list.

[WaltertheDunce10]

I will have more probably tonight/tomorrow am busy rn

[WaltertheDunce10]

Everyone, we have 3 days leeft,
We should probably consolidate
How are there 4 people not voting!

[WaltertheDunce10]

Yeah
VOTE: truth

[WaltertheDunce10]

I know,
Dunn does not exactly make go wow!

[WaltertheDunce10]

lol

[WaltertheDunce10]

IDK
One of looker osukua, chk is scum though at a min to me

Still fine with truth
I wonder if top wagons are both scum and are being bussed
Seems unlikely though.
pedit my GOD }

[WaltertheDunce10]

yeah
longggggggg
sighhhhhh

[WaltertheDunce10]

VOTE: Osuka
I agree

[WaltertheDunce10]

Vote Count 1.END

bugspray(7)Dunnstral,Truth,Looker,Gypyx,

WaltertheDunce10

,superbowl9,chkflip,

Not Voting(4)

LicketyQuickety

,0verki11,

Psyche,

osuka,

Psyche

(1)redtea,

Truth(1)bugspray,

Gypyx(0)

osuka(0)

WaltertheDunce10

(0)


I am posting this to look at in one place.

LicketyQuickety

(0)

superbowl9(0)

Dunnstral(0)

Looker(0)

chkflip

Nash

(0)

redtea(0)

0verki11(0)

No Execute (0)

With 13 alive it is 7 to execute, and 7 to No Execute.

Day 1 ends.

bugspray

has been executed. They were:

Spoiler:

Town Ninja Roleblocker

You are a Town Ninja Roleblocker.

Your actions are not visible to Tracker-like and Watcher-like roles

Each night, you may target a player. Assuming no interference with your action, that player's active abilities will be blocked that night.

You win if all threats to the town are eliminated and at least one town-aligned player is alive.

Confirm by replying to this PM with a summary of your role.

Night 1 begins. Lickety Quickety is being replaced.
Night 1 will end in (expired on 2020-07-30 03:30:00) if a replacement for Lickety Quickety is found within 24 hours.

Vote Count 2.6

Truth(6)

WaltertheDunce10

,Nepenthes,

the worst

,Titus,chkflip,Looker,

Looker(3)superbowl9,osuka,Gypyx,

Not Voting(1)Dunnstral,

osuka(1)Truth,

Titus

0verki11

(0)

Dunnstral(0)

chkflip

Nash

(0)

WaltertheDunce10

(0)

Gypyx(0)

the worst

LicketyQuickety

(0)

superbowl9(0)

Nepenthes

redtea

(0)

No Execute (0)

With 11 alive it is 6 to execute, and 6 to No Execute.

Day 2 ends.

Truth

was executed Day 2. They were:

Spoiler:

Mafia Goon

You are a Mafia Goon.

[REDACTED]

Each night, if no other member of your faction is performing this action, you may target a player. Assuming no interference with your action, that player will die.

You win if at least one mafia member is alive and all other players are dead (or if nothing can prevent the same).

Confirm by replying to this PM with a summary of your role.

Night 2 begins and ends in (expired on 2020-08-07 03:34:00)

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[WaltertheDunce10]

Alright, any views chkflip on who ?

[WaltertheDunce10]

lol
I am secretly an alien
Don't tell any one k

[WaltertheDunce10]

I have no idea what that was supposed to say.

[WaltertheDunce10]

I now think osuka is # 2 scum,
Letys book it.

[WaltertheDunce10]

please.

[WaltertheDunce10]

Cough cough
I am going through looker iso rn

[WaltertheDunce10]

Yeah, they both seem pretty scummy for different reasons.

Nep , gyp is town
Dunn not a clue.

[WaltertheDunce10]

I went thrrough Osuka iso and there does not seem to be a lot of town solving but insistence that hi town whenever challenged,
Looker though seems to be solving from my perspective, compared less so to osuka.

[WaltertheDunce10]

You are town too chk.
I am willing to bet on that sure.
You think D2 we had two scum as main wagons?
What is vc at?

[WaltertheDunce10]

The post hammer posting looks deliberate to me

From who?

[WaltertheDunce10]

Looker has been hard to read while osuka insistence and brashness I guess made me think town would not have to resort to jabs instead of working it out. Why would town require validation.

What the hell, VOTE: looker
Urgh a reread does not make gyp look any better
Gods, I wish I was more interested in this game.
pedit thank you nep.

[WaltertheDunce10]

Alright, I will

[WaltertheDunce10]

lol,
I would love to hear from titus too.

[WaltertheDunce10]

Thanks mod.
3 wagons, k that is interesting.

[WaltertheDunce10]

Gyp, Dunn
GOt any ideas?

[WaltertheDunce10]

I will be back on in a bit.

[WaltertheDunce10]

Weirdly enough looking at 2.6 vc
If assumed town directed than one of looker superbowl gyp dunn is scum.
Assumes truth would vote for a town and not his buddy.

[WaltertheDunce10]

Titus, what do you make of dunn's slot.

[WaltertheDunce10]

Why do you believe scum have been ineffective?

[WaltertheDunce10]

Yeah, that is a good point.

[WaltertheDunce10]

Why do you believe scum have been ineffective?

If Dunn is scum, he's deadweight to their team. There was a scum lynch day 2. It's a decent assumption if Dunn is scum.

It doesn't hold though unless one of Dunn/Looker is scum.

And i don't find that scum has been ineffective? Like what tells you that? Truth was pretty much guaranteed to get lynched at some point

Truth's guaranteed lynch is why scum were ineffective.

So which one is it Titus?
VOTE: titus

[WaltertheDunce10]

It offers two reasons for why scum were not effective.

[WaltertheDunce10]

One is about dunn then talks about truth.

[WaltertheDunce10]

What about superbowl, you think? Titus.

I will take a look in the morning when I am more awake.
Ignore my last q.

[WaltertheDunce10]

I think osuka seems to have support and we are running out of time, so
VOTE: Osuka

[WaltertheDunce10]

I would be fine by either one at this point

[WaltertheDunce10]

Osuka to you provides more value alive?

[WaltertheDunce10]

We need a flip at this point.

[WaltertheDunce10]

If you are both on board superbowl does seem a good an option as any.

[WaltertheDunce10]

VOTE: unvote
Don't want scum to get any ideas.

[WaltertheDunce10]

Alright ,
VOTE: Osuka
E-1

[WaltertheDunce10]

Yeah, looker +1 is something to look at if you flip green.

[WaltertheDunce10]

People seem more willing to vote for you than looker.

[WaltertheDunce10]

you know what VOTE: looker

[WaltertheDunce10]

Aye, my head thinks you might be town because truth was voting for you

[WaltertheDunce10]

Would you say nep has been more towny ?

[WaltertheDunce10]

Alright, that is what I thought.

[WaltertheDunce10]

Aye, my head thinks you might be town because truth was voting for you

What are you doing? Why would you vote for me when neither osuka or superbowl were on Truth's lynch? Are you sleepy, tired, bored...?

---

• Does anyone know what process Titus uses to accomplish VCA? We're just going to go with it?

I don't know what you people are doing, but I will applaud in twilight if I'm lynched. Killing the worst over Walter was an excellent move.

Truly,
I already knew I was n3 kill.
Gotta admit my head is jumbled rn

[WaltertheDunce10]

I think one is scum and the other town but which one?

[WaltertheDunce10]

K, yep

[WaltertheDunce10]

Yeah I know hence the name.

[WaltertheDunce10]

It could be titus, but that is one to discuss is looker is town i feel like.

[WaltertheDunce10]

Why do you discount a Titus/looker team walter

Would scum Titus go to all that trouble just to bus their partner?

[WaltertheDunce10]

I am not sure how to read these looker posts.

[WaltertheDunce10]

Hmm suspicious dunn
how convenient.

[WaltertheDunce10]

That is true.

[WaltertheDunce10]

[WaltertheDunce10]

WTFWTFWTFWTFWTFWTF
Why am I alive?

[WaltertheDunce10]

kI recovevered from the shock of not being nkd
Osuka dunn superbowl has a scum among them.

[WaltertheDunce10]

I also feel that the only reason to not kill me over titus was because they had a scum read correctly.

[WaltertheDunce10]

Yes lolool

[WaltertheDunce10]

Then what is it?

[WaltertheDunce10]

Dooes awful= scum?

[WaltertheDunce10]

I would be good with osuka /superbowl
VOTE: superbowl

[WaltertheDunce10]

Yeah truly

[WaltertheDunce10]

That is really weird way to go about it this late in the game, right?

[WaltertheDunce10]

Also is anyone alive who was scumcasing dunn? Been trying to find it with search but am failing

I don't think so but I could be wrong

[WaltertheDunce10]

What troubles you about it chk.

[WaltertheDunce10]

VOTE: Osuka

[WaltertheDunce10]

alright, that is fine.
VOTE: [superbowl

[WaltertheDunce10]

Oh gosh unless one does descending posts.
For why you were not here. osuka

[WaltertheDunce10]

Could that be an svs for just how petty it got and lack of evidence just screaming?

[WaltertheDunce10]

Enough to hammer?

[WaltertheDunce10]

I mean my username is self depriciating what you expect?

[WaltertheDunce10]

k

[WaltertheDunce10]

Intent ot hammer Osuka!

[WaltertheDunce10]

Just k?
Or we could wait for gunn again

[WaltertheDunce10]

Yeah agree
VOTE: Osuka

[WaltertheDunce10]

If you do flip green then my apologies

[WaltertheDunce10]

Who are the two remaining scum if not you?

[WaltertheDunce10]

If you do flip green then I know how you play as town.

[WaltertheDunce10]

Iam just an ic so pr

[WaltertheDunce10]

Hmm... kinda happy to see this nightkill tbf, i was getting paranoiad

Walter, do you think it's possible for chkflip to be scum?

That is possible.

[WaltertheDunce10]

I am getting the superbowl wagon going.
VOTE: superbowl

[WaltertheDunce10]

If it is really gyp and chk nice job fooling me then.

[WaltertheDunce10]

alright
VOTE: unvote

[WaltertheDunce10]

Also uh wow just realized, did we all just let dunn away with his mishammer on looker?

Yeah perhaps.

[WaltertheDunce10]

But they were both town

[WaltertheDunce10]

I know that but ouska looker were both town

[WaltertheDunce10]

The mishammer by dunn would not matter because the two were both town.

[WaltertheDunce10]

I agree on super

[WaltertheDunce10]

I agree, it has to be that team. Gyp reads towny and dunn just coming in with ahammer and lurking has not helped
Which one is better to elim now?

[WaltertheDunce10]

I agreee, just depends do we want the screaming today or tommorrow.
I say today so superbowl.

[WaltertheDunce10]

I hammer the bowl gg chk if you are scum
VOTE: superbowl

[WaltertheDunce10]

I will
As if i die do the same

[WaltertheDunce10]

gg