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this post is so funnyIn post 255, Psyche wrote:Another reason I'm voting osuka is that his posting style also seems unnatural, and unlike bugspray who can only call me nervous or weird w/o any further explanation, I can be more specific about why I find his posts that way.
His early posting seems simultaneously irreverent and self-conscious, a conflict that comes off as a bit inauthentic. Posts 105, 109, 139 seem like the best examples of this. His rather hyperbolic reaction to my case against him also fits in the category. On the one hand, he's very attentive to how his posts come off. He pulls a youtube video and large bold font to comment on off-hand oneliner calling his posts "frustrated". He's deeply curious what response LicketyQuickety expected to his question. He wants to know what LQ thinks of his readiness to BS. And But on the other hand, his style and tone are irreverent. Across his whole iso he posts in terse one-liners w/ little concern for grammar/punctuation, and is willing to use really vulgar, hyperbolic language to describe people's posts.
The conflict in all this is that this baseline disrespect for others and the stuff they take seriously doesn't fit well with the co-occuring pattern of spending a lot of time/energy reacting to and interrogating others' idea of him.
There are other potential explanations for these patterns - for example, narcissism. An excessive need for admiration, disregard for others' feelings, an inability to handle criticism, and so on are par for the course when it comes to narcissists and cleanly explains the conflicts I'm picking up on. But given that we're only at page 11, I'm exploring the hypothesis that a situational mediator explains the conflict: osuka's win condition especially requires that he manage our impressions of him, but he doesn't want us to catch that. We'll see which pans out.
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truths posting is strange, it could mean a lot of things
strangest is the no contractions, it makes them sound artificial but could just be style
psyches psychoanalyzing osuka but calling truth "obvious town" when the fakenoob vibes are oozing and muddling up reads is super weird though
Nash calling that out immediately is +town- Nepenthes
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nvm this is town lolIn post 407, Psyche wrote:supposing you're town, once it's obvious that i'm town i think it's important that you think a lot about what's so wrong about your play patterns. you'll want to tell yourself that it was a one-off thing — it's obviously you're on that track with this language claiming i deserve to be policy lynched. but it's more a systematic pattern in how you play/think. intellectual laziness, basically. if bugspray's town they have it even worse.- Nepenthes
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Most of what he dismissed in his own case as not particularly ai i agree is not paricularly ai
Looker being paranoid and directionless isnt scummy, i dont think theyre behaving like caught scum
And I think im right about lookers angle that bugspray was distracting the no content issue with pronoun talk being an angle town takes more than scum
But idk superbowls case doesnt make me think hes scum
Therefore good faith- Nepenthes
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Thats fairIn post 808, chkflip wrote:
I agree with the spirit of this (Looker demanding a case being bad is wrong, Dunn is experienced) but your "flip Dunn and Looker" I disagree with.In post 800, Nepenthes wrote:Imo you should flip your reads on Looker and Dunn, Dunns scumgame is good enough that calling his confidence ai esp in comparison to Looker demanding a case is a mistake
Ill reword it as "superbowl shouldnt be dismissive of one and wanting to lynch the other based on their respective confidence levels"- Nepenthes
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I know you had him as nullish scummish beforeIn post 814, chkflip wrote:I'm not in the business of repeating myself. I've given my opinion on Looker. You apparently read the entire thread in the span of time you've been here so surely you didn't miss it.
You havent responded either way to my comments or townread on looker
Not sure why you have a chip on your shoulder wrt interacting w me- Nepenthes
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Im voting truth with you is there something else youd like me to be doing
If Looker gets eliminated then truth doesnt today
Therefore Looker being town is significant
Therefore you should care a little bit
Never mind that the reason Im talking to you specifically is bc youre my nullread that I want to sort and also the only one in the thread at the moment- Nepenthes
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Huh we have rly different thought processes but our conclusions are rly similar
I still think im right on looker but i like superbowls direction
Also wow controversy but i find truth a big enough question mark that im fine if you want to consider that policy
Honestly a player who isnt going to be readable and doesnt look town is a great lynch candidate esp early game- Nepenthes
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Lookers ISOIn post 828, chkflip wrote:
What did you reread to come to that new conclusion?In post 825, Nepenthes wrote:I wasnt confident or thinking he was town in 793, 795 came after I reread, chk- Nepenthes
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In post 360, Looker wrote:
So when bugspray is hammered, how counterproductive do you think it'll be that all their content has been based on gender pronouns? Does this not look like a strategy to you?In post 347, osuka wrote:
yeah i just am not very good at rememberingIn post 335, Psyche wrote:it's really not that hard to just respect a fking pronoun
like as much as i am an asshole, i really don't intentionally disrespect people's wishes in that department because it accomplishes nothing other than creating unnecessary tension. I really don't have bad intentions here
this is the one time in the game you can trust me not to be an ass
I initially dismissed this as looker having a negative view of nonstandard pronoun use and so considered the use of this argument as nai but based on the rest of their posting im gonna say that was wrong of meIn post 363, Looker wrote:I don't care about any of that. What I'm saying is, do you think bugspray is avoiding posting anything but pronoun conversation as a way to not leave any connections to scumpartners?
And so with that in mind it looks more like a genuine belief that bugspray was avoiding contentposting for the reason stated- Nepenthes
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I have no response to that you could say it abt any ai thing to make it nai
Anything a player calls out as being scummy could be spun around as scum noting scummy town
Also my point was it looks like a genuine belief of avoiding content
You can say you dont agree with that but saying scum would also think a townie is genuinely avoiding content is wild- Nepenthes
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Thanks twIn post 859, the worst wrote:Nep is enough of a breath of fresh air that I'm pretty sure her alignment will win the game atp. it's a mutual thing, obviously she's happy to be here, and I suspect that those kinds of engagements will invigorate whichever faction she's reacting with positively.- Nepenthes
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I think these players will tell a lot abt dunns alignment so im ok to waitIn post 736, Dunnstral wrote:Poe off people I don't want to vote
I think I wrote Titus off too quickly in my head... it's entirely possible that she is scum- Nepenthes
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Are you asking me a question hereIn post 871, Looker wrote:Would chkflip being willing to misflip me on a later day keep me from being NK'd tonight? Or misflipped today in the place of Truth? I'm assuming scum are handcuffed to NKing ICs.
Someone hit me if im confbiased but does scum respond to my defense of them by calling scum theatre w me and superbowl- Nepenthes
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Fair. thats what it means thenIn post 877, Looker wrote:I don't know, that's why I asked- Nepenthes
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You sound really sure we're both scum together and I cant figure whyIn post 871, Looker wrote:I want to know post-game if 800 was a way to throw me off. Scum have daychat, so there'd be no reason for Nepenthes to coach superbowl in-thread.- Nepenthes
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This is the entire playerlistIn post 881, Looker wrote:this stuffs really hard to type with one hand so osuka/superbowl and one of dunn chkflip neptune titus. gypyx and truth inspection later- Nepenthes
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Im waiting for chk to do something rly obviously town and then he can go to bedIn post 868, the worst wrote:unless his POA is this glorious lolbus I think he's kinda towny. he's been quite prickly to interact with & resistant enough to my offers to be pocketed that I don't think he's approaching me maliciously at least. the you/chk interaction kinda makes me wondering if that's just default chk or maybe he's wary of being caught pocketing tho- Nepenthes
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Are you saying its puzzling that looker hasnt pointed out themself that their own paranoia should be a towntellIn post 888, osuka wrote:overly defensive about the paranoia bullshit which, frankly, comes more often from town than it does from scum (because scum don't have to worry about being pocketed at all and manipulated nearly as much as town), and the fact that he hasn't pointed that out yet is frankly puzzling- Nepenthes
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Why were you considering Dunn earlierIn post 929, Gypyx wrote:not gonna lie, i don't like any of the top wagons, but at the same time i feel like i can't make any good thought about the game, so i'm just gonna go on looker given that the IC's are here, and that i'm not a fan of policy lynches VOTE: looker
you are allowed to call me an idiot- Nepenthes
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But a good point, gypyx were you readingIn post 947, Looker wrote:Also. Gypyx said that he hated policy elims and that the ICs were voting me. They weren't. Superbowl and osuka were voting me. The ICs were voting Truth.- Nepenthes
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Am i finally becoming bitter and old bc ive always hated this phrase for no reasonIn post 968, osuka wrote:What the fuck does “high scum equity” even mean- Nepenthes
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I dont want to go to the place where we elim skilled players for being skilled and are left with pocket lint for endgameIn post 956, osuka wrote:At this point, the arg goes back to “looker is more skilled, therefore more dangerous” - Nepenthes
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