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Post Post #783 (isolation #0) » Mon Aug 03, 2020 3:18 am

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VOTE: Truth
the room will judge who im truly aligned with
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Post Post #785 (isolation #1) » Mon Aug 03, 2020 3:53 am

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In post 255, Psyche wrote:Another reason I'm voting osuka is that his posting style also seems unnatural, and unlike bugspray who can only call me nervous or weird w/o any further explanation, I can be more specific about why I find his posts that way.

His early posting seems simultaneously irreverent and self-conscious, a conflict that comes off as a bit inauthentic. Posts 105, 109, 139 seem like the best examples of this. His rather hyperbolic reaction to my case against him also fits in the category. On the one hand, he's very attentive to how his posts come off. He pulls a youtube video and large bold font to comment on off-hand oneliner calling his posts "frustrated". He's deeply curious what response LicketyQuickety expected to his question. He wants to know what LQ thinks of his readiness to BS. And But on the other hand, his style and tone are irreverent. Across his whole iso he posts in terse one-liners w/ little concern for grammar/punctuation, and is willing to use really vulgar, hyperbolic language to describe people's posts.

The conflict in all this is that this baseline disrespect for others and the stuff they take seriously doesn't fit well with the co-occuring pattern of spending a lot of time/energy reacting to and interrogating others' idea of him.

There are other potential explanations for these patterns - for example, narcissism. An excessive need for admiration, disregard for others' feelings, an inability to handle criticism, and so on are par for the course when it comes to narcissists and cleanly explains the conflicts I'm picking up on. But given that we're only at page 11, I'm exploring the hypothesis that a situational mediator explains the conflict: osuka's win condition especially requires that he manage our impressions of him, but he doesn't want us to catch that. We'll see which pans out.
this post is so funny

id vote psyche if i felt like actually starting a wagon
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Post Post #787 (isolation #2) » Mon Aug 03, 2020 4:02 am

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truths posting is strange, it could mean a lot of things
strangest is the no contractions, it makes them sound artificial but could just be style
psyches psychoanalyzing osuka but calling truth "obvious town" when the fakenoob vibes are oozing and muddling up reads is super weird though

Nash calling that out immediately is +town
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Post Post #788 (isolation #3) » Mon Aug 03, 2020 4:21 am

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In post 407, Psyche wrote:supposing you're town, once it's obvious that i'm town i think it's important that you think a lot about what's so wrong about your play patterns. you'll want to tell yourself that it was a one-off thing — it's obviously you're on that track with this language claiming i deserve to be policy lynched. but it's more a systematic pattern in how you play/think. intellectual laziness, basically. if bugspray's town they have it even worse.
nvm this is town lol
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Post Post #790 (isolation #4) » Mon Aug 03, 2020 4:29 am

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fuck
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Post Post #792 (isolation #5) » Mon Aug 03, 2020 4:48 am

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Dunn is sus but im more interested in sorting titus and truth
looker i have never seen someone post the way you do congrats
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Post Post #793 (isolation #6) » Mon Aug 03, 2020 4:55 am

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the titus replace is unfortunate imo its just delaying an inevitable overkill scum lynch

looker wagon is boring compromise
tw unless you strongly feel truth is town its a way better wagon
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Post Post #795 (isolation #7) » Mon Aug 03, 2020 5:10 am

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Tbh id be surprised if looker flipped scum, they spent most of the leadup to bugsprays execution calling the pronoun insistence a scum strat (like lol)
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Post Post #800 (isolation #8) » Mon Aug 03, 2020 6:10 am

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Its a lol opinion but lol in a town way
Scum doesnt take that route when they know the player is town

Imo you should flip your reads on Looker and Dunn, Dunns scumgame is good enough that calling his confidence ai esp in comparison to Looker demanding a case is a mistake
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Post Post #801 (isolation #9) » Mon Aug 03, 2020 6:12 am

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superbowls case looks good faith to me i just think hes wrong
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Post Post #802 (isolation #10) » Mon Aug 03, 2020 6:20 am

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I dont think dunn is scum here ftr
Calling scum in Titus/osuka/Truth/maybe chk
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Post Post #804 (isolation #11) » Mon Aug 03, 2020 6:24 am

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Do you agree w me or no
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Post Post #805 (isolation #12) » Mon Aug 03, 2020 6:26 am

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Actually i dont rly care thats not important
We agree on a few things so id rather know what you think abt literally anything else ive said
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Post Post #809 (isolation #13) » Mon Aug 03, 2020 6:33 am

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Most of what he dismissed in his own case as not particularly ai i agree is not paricularly ai
Looker being paranoid and directionless isnt scummy, i dont think theyre behaving like caught scum
And I think im right about lookers angle that bugspray was distracting the no content issue with pronoun talk being an angle town takes more than scum

But idk superbowls case doesnt make me think hes scum
Therefore good faith
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Post Post #810 (isolation #14) » Mon Aug 03, 2020 6:34 am

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In post 808, chkflip wrote:
In post 800, Nepenthes wrote:Imo you should flip your reads on Looker and Dunn, Dunns scumgame is good enough that calling his confidence ai esp in comparison to Looker demanding a case is a mistake
I agree with the spirit of this (Looker demanding a case being bad is wrong, Dunn is experienced) but your "flip Dunn and Looker" I disagree with.
Thats fair
Ill reword it as "superbowl shouldnt be dismissive of one and wanting to lynch the other based on their respective confidence levels"
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Post Post #812 (isolation #15) » Mon Aug 03, 2020 6:42 am

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Looked significant enough to me to warrant a response
I didnt say that it was superbowls only reason, but he specifically brought it up as the deciding factor between the two
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Post Post #813 (isolation #16) » Mon Aug 03, 2020 6:43 am

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chk do you have an opinion on looker rn
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Post Post #817 (isolation #17) » Mon Aug 03, 2020 6:56 am

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In post 814, chkflip wrote:I'm not in the business of repeating myself. I've given my opinion on Looker. You apparently read the entire thread in the span of time you've been here so surely you didn't miss it.
I know you had him as nullish scummish before
You havent responded either way to my comments or townread on looker

Not sure why you have a chip on your shoulder wrt interacting w me
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Post Post #819 (isolation #18) » Mon Aug 03, 2020 7:05 am

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K i can see you dislike talking to me so ill stop trying
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Post Post #822 (isolation #19) » Mon Aug 03, 2020 7:14 am

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Im voting truth with you is there something else youd like me to be doing
If Looker gets eliminated then truth doesnt today
Therefore Looker being town is significant
Therefore you should care a little bit
Never mind that the reason Im talking to you specifically is bc youre my nullread that I want to sort and also the only one in the thread at the moment
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Post Post #825 (isolation #20) » Mon Aug 03, 2020 7:31 am

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I wasnt confident or thinking he was town in 793, 795 came after I reread, chk
As for the rest, knowing thats how you feel abt the scumcase is more useful than not knowing
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Post Post #827 (isolation #21) » Mon Aug 03, 2020 7:36 am

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Huh we have rly different thought processes but our conclusions are rly similar
I still think im right on looker but i like superbowls direction
Also wow controversy but i find truth a big enough question mark that im fine if you want to consider that policy
Honestly a player who isnt going to be readable and doesnt look town is a great lynch candidate esp early game
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Post Post #830 (isolation #22) » Mon Aug 03, 2020 7:43 am

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In post 828, chkflip wrote:
In post 825, Nepenthes wrote:I wasnt confident or thinking he was town in 793, 795 came after I reread, chk
What did you reread to come to that new conclusion?
Lookers ISO
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Post Post #831 (isolation #23) » Mon Aug 03, 2020 7:44 am

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It didnt register on first pass and did on the second
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Post Post #834 (isolation #24) » Mon Aug 03, 2020 7:53 am

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In post 360, Looker wrote:
In post 347, osuka wrote:
In post 335, Psyche wrote:it's really not that hard to just respect a fking pronoun
yeah i just am not very good at remembering

like as much as i am an asshole, i really don't intentionally disrespect people's wishes in that department because it accomplishes nothing other than creating unnecessary tension. I really don't have bad intentions here


this is the one time in the game you can trust me not to be an ass
So when bugspray is hammered, how counterproductive do you think it'll be that all their content has been based on gender pronouns? Does this not look like a strategy to you?
In post 363, Looker wrote:I don't care about any of that. What I'm saying is, do you think bugspray is avoiding posting anything but pronoun conversation as a way to not leave any connections to scumpartners?
I initially dismissed this as looker having a negative view of nonstandard pronoun use and so considered the use of this argument as nai but based on the rest of their posting im gonna say that was wrong of me

And so with that in mind it looks more like a genuine belief that bugspray was avoiding contentposting for the reason stated
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Post Post #835 (isolation #25) » Mon Aug 03, 2020 7:57 am

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The way looker talks abt bugspray postflip with zero regret () also reads town
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Post Post #837 (isolation #26) » Mon Aug 03, 2020 8:26 am

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I have no response to that you could say it abt any ai thing to make it nai
Anything a player calls out as being scummy could be spun around as scum noting scummy town

Also my point was it looks like a genuine belief of avoiding content
You can say you dont agree with that but saying scum would also think a townie is genuinely avoiding content is wild
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Post Post #839 (isolation #27) » Mon Aug 03, 2020 8:47 am

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I dont see a connection between survivalism and bugspray avoiding content to make things easier on his buddies upon his flip, if anything they oppose each other
But i also doubt ill convince you or that i have anything damning enough to do so

Still think Truths the better elim
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Post Post #840 (isolation #28) » Mon Aug 03, 2020 8:48 am

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Titus is better than both of them but its not happening today
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Post Post #842 (isolation #29) » Mon Aug 03, 2020 9:05 am

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The benefit of elimming truth only continues to go down if we assume theyre town, and theyre never going to be nightkilled so that if is really a when
Wont move to looker but id swing to titus with support
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Post Post #847 (isolation #30) » Mon Aug 03, 2020 10:30 am

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Nows consolidate time not vanity time
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Post Post #855 (isolation #31) » Mon Aug 03, 2020 10:54 am

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I dont consider the case to be evidence of town superbowl by itself but look at his reads
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Post Post #858 (isolation #32) » Mon Aug 03, 2020 11:05 am

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Idk what you mean by reading you but yeah lets go
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Post Post #862 (isolation #33) » Mon Aug 03, 2020 11:14 am

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In post 859, the worst wrote:Nep is enough of a breath of fresh air that I'm pretty sure her alignment will win the game atp. it's a mutual thing, obviously she's happy to be here, and I suspect that those kinds of engagements will invigorate whichever faction she's reacting with positively.
Thanks tw
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Post Post #863 (isolation #34) » Mon Aug 03, 2020 11:16 am

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In post 731, Dunnstral wrote:I don't think Truth is scum though

He's just.. loopy
In post 733, Dunnstral wrote:*checks list*

..Looker?
In post 736, Dunnstral wrote:Poe off people I don't want to vote

I think I wrote Titus off too quickly in my head... it's entirely possible that she is scum
I think these players will tell a lot abt dunns alignment so im ok to wait
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Post Post #866 (isolation #35) » Mon Aug 03, 2020 11:31 am

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If anything its a good thing that Dunn can be solved with flips of players already in a poe
Chk is the one I have no idea about but its only day 2
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Post Post #876 (isolation #36) » Mon Aug 03, 2020 3:46 pm

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Good faith means "i think superbowl is town" what else would it mean
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Post Post #878 (isolation #37) » Mon Aug 03, 2020 3:49 pm

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In post 871, Looker wrote:Would chkflip being willing to misflip me on a later day keep me from being NK'd tonight? Or misflipped today in the place of Truth? I'm assuming scum are handcuffed to NKing ICs.
Are you asking me a question here

Someone hit me if im confbiased but does scum respond to my defense of them by calling scum theatre w me and superbowl
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Post Post #879 (isolation #38) » Mon Aug 03, 2020 3:50 pm

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In post 877, Looker wrote:I don't know, that's why I asked
Fair. thats what it means then
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Post Post #880 (isolation #39) » Mon Aug 03, 2020 3:53 pm

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In post 871, Looker wrote:I want to know post-game if 800 was a way to throw me off. Scum have daychat, so there'd be no reason for Nepenthes to coach superbowl in-thread.
You sound really sure we're both scum together and I cant figure why
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Post Post #883 (isolation #40) » Mon Aug 03, 2020 4:03 pm

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In post 881, Looker wrote:this stuffs really hard to type with one hand so osuka/superbowl and one of dunn chkflip neptune titus. gypyx and truth inspection later
This is the entire playerlist
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Post Post #884 (isolation #41) » Mon Aug 03, 2020 4:03 pm

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Entire nonIC list
Also lol neptune
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Post Post #885 (isolation #42) » Mon Aug 03, 2020 4:12 pm

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In post 868, the worst wrote:unless his POA is this glorious lolbus I think he's kinda towny. he's been quite prickly to interact with & resistant enough to my offers to be pocketed that I don't think he's approaching me maliciously at least. the you/chk interaction kinda makes me wondering if that's just default chk or maybe he's wary of being caught pocketing tho
Im waiting for chk to do something rly obviously town and then he can go to bed
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Post Post #933 (isolation #43) » Tue Aug 04, 2020 11:54 am

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Is it important what discourse we have around Truth as long as the conclusion to elim them is reached
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Post Post #934 (isolation #44) » Tue Aug 04, 2020 11:54 am

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Also where did they go
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Post Post #935 (isolation #45) » Tue Aug 04, 2020 11:58 am

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In post 888, osuka wrote:overly defensive about the paranoia bullshit which, frankly, comes more often from town than it does from scum (because scum don't have to worry about being pocketed at all and manipulated nearly as much as town), and the fact that he hasn't pointed that out yet is frankly puzzling
Are you saying its puzzling that looker hasnt pointed out themself that their own paranoia should be a towntell
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Post Post #936 (isolation #46) » Tue Aug 04, 2020 12:01 pm

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In post 929, Gypyx wrote:not gonna lie, i don't like any of the top wagons, but at the same time i feel like i can't make any good thought about the game, so i'm just gonna go on looker given that the IC's are here, and that i'm not a fan of policy lynches VOTE: looker

you are allowed to call me an idiot
Why were you considering Dunn earlier
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Post Post #938 (isolation #47) » Tue Aug 04, 2020 12:11 pm

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Generally suspicion falling off isnt cause to think scum unless theres evidence the players buddies are actively (or passively) taking the heat off the player
But agree gypyx town
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Post Post #949 (isolation #48) » Tue Aug 04, 2020 1:36 pm

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If i make it to endgame im doing something wrong
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Post Post #951 (isolation #49) » Tue Aug 04, 2020 1:39 pm

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In post 947, Looker wrote:Also. Gypyx said that he hated policy elims and that the ICs were voting me. They weren't. Superbowl and osuka were voting me. The ICs were voting Truth.
But a good point, gypyx were you reading
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Post Post #973 (isolation #50) » Tue Aug 04, 2020 4:08 pm

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In post 968, osuka wrote:What the fuck does “high scum equity” even mean
Am i finally becoming bitter and old bc ive always hated this phrase for no reason
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Post Post #974 (isolation #51) » Tue Aug 04, 2020 4:10 pm

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In post 956, osuka wrote:At this point, the arg goes back to “looker is more skilled, therefore more dangerous”
I dont want to go to the place where we elim skilled players for being skilled and are left with pocket lint for endgame
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Post Post #1021 (isolation #52) » Tue Aug 04, 2020 6:31 pm

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Are you all done spiralling yet
The elim was always going to be looker or truth so I couldnt care less about the hammer
Can you even call it a lolhammer when truths already claimed
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Post Post #1024 (isolation #53) » Tue Aug 04, 2020 6:36 pm

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Looker dont say good luck like youre going somewhere
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Post Post #1025 (isolation #54) » Tue Aug 04, 2020 6:37 pm

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In post 1023, the worst wrote:i liked the hammer
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Post Post #1027 (isolation #55) » Tue Aug 04, 2020 6:39 pm

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Osuka is probably scum
Ill miss tw
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Post Post #1028 (isolation #56) » Tue Aug 04, 2020 6:42 pm

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For a mafioso Lookers doing a good impression of self righteous town whining
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Post Post #1031 (isolation #57) » Tue Aug 04, 2020 6:52 pm

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Agree with all of that
If this is scum looker im just impressed
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Post Post #1033 (isolation #58) » Tue Aug 04, 2020 6:53 pm

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Youre my strongest tr but like i literally hate you
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Post Post #1048 (isolation #59) » Tue Aug 04, 2020 7:07 pm

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Chk youre not allowed to complain about noise anymore
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Post Post #1050 (isolation #60) » Tue Aug 04, 2020 7:10 pm

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God I hate secret alts
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Post Post #1053 (isolation #61) » Tue Aug 04, 2020 7:28 pm

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In post 1052, chkflip wrote:If 1:4, regardless of flip, it's statistically impossible for scum to not be on this wagon because that'd mean that the entire scum team was off the wagon and I'm just not believing that.
None of that post holds up bc this assertion is wrong to begin with
Ask Titus
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Post Post #1054 (isolation #62) » Tue Aug 04, 2020 7:31 pm

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I would guess three scum
My problem is with the word impossible
I do think there is scum on the wagon
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Post Post #1063 (isolation #63) » Tue Aug 04, 2020 7:54 pm

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In post 1059, chkflip wrote:I've attempted stand up, it's why I'm a Stand Up Guy.

Titus is definitely smart enough to bus, it just doesn't read like a bus to me (which is one reason I'm looking forward to their VCA tomorrow). And as much as I'd like to point at Nep for one reason or another (coming straight in with the Truth vote, for example) something about their posting is ringing town to me. PoE.
I wanna hear all about this tomorrow

The truth wagon was town directed, thats something to pick apart when we see a flip
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Post Post #1064 (isolation #64) » Tue Aug 04, 2020 7:55 pm

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In post 1062, chkflip wrote:What are your current reads, tw?

My old stand up in a thread here
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=86&t=25831
Linking to speakeasy
More altphobic behavior
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Post Post #1068 (isolation #65) » Tue Aug 04, 2020 8:14 pm

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73% sure the ic is town
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Post Post #1071 (isolation #66) » Tue Aug 04, 2020 8:19 pm

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Scum is all in Truth/Titus/osuka and exactly one of chk or super
Looker/Dunn/Gypyx town
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Post Post #1086 (isolation #67) » Fri Aug 07, 2020 9:59 am

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In post 1084, Gypyx wrote:
In post 951, Nepenthes wrote:
In post 947, Looker wrote:Also. Gypyx said that he hated policy elims and that the ICs were voting me. They weren't. Superbowl and osuka were voting me. The ICs were voting Truth.
But a good point, gypyx were you reading
I did read just that i misread the VC

Anyways, my scumhunting is terrible, so to put that here, i'll just focus on finding other town to sheep if y'all don't mind, or i can try to scumhunt and just assume that i'm wrong

Also just a quick point, why did looker hammer truth even if he wanted to flip him the least out of all players, survivalism?
Do you townhunt

Chk Dunn where are you two at today
Im unchanged from yesterday
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Post Post #1087 (isolation #68) » Fri Aug 07, 2020 10:01 am

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Osukas dislike of truths play and acknowledgement they were a distraction regardless of their alignment is at odds with his total disinterest in elimming truth yesterday

Also see what happens when you say a players unreadable and then dont kill them
Except you wont see because we did kill them
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Post Post #1088 (isolation #69) » Fri Aug 07, 2020 10:02 am

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In post 1076, Titus wrote:VOTE: Gypyx

Good morning.
VOTE: osuka
Good morning Titus im thinking youre next
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Post Post #1089 (isolation #70) » Fri Aug 07, 2020 10:05 am

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In post 935, Nepenthes wrote:
In post 888, osuka wrote:overly defensive about the paranoia bullshit which, frankly, comes more often from town than it does from scum (because scum don't have to worry about being pocketed at all and manipulated nearly as much as town), and the fact that he hasn't pointed that out yet is frankly puzzling
Are you saying its puzzling that looker hasnt pointed out themself that their own paranoia should be a towntell
@osuka did you reply to this
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Post Post #1090 (isolation #71) » Fri Aug 07, 2020 10:12 am

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In post 1079, Dunnstral wrote:also truth was scum, and was heavily playing into his persona from last game.

Looker, are you a power role or what? It sounded like you were planning to claim today
In post 731, Dunnstral wrote:I don't think Truth is scum though

He's just.. loopy
? What are you saying in 1079
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Post Post #1107 (isolation #72) » Sun Aug 09, 2020 4:29 am

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Im here tonight chk
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Post Post #1112 (isolation #73) » Sun Aug 09, 2020 1:04 pm

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Superbowl you and Looker are oil and water but your scumread is offbase
What do you think about chk today
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Post Post #1113 (isolation #74) » Sun Aug 09, 2020 1:06 pm

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Chk i want to know why you didnt think titus was bussing and what problem there was with my starting off with a truth vote d2
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Post Post #1114 (isolation #75) » Sun Aug 09, 2020 1:10 pm

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Your gypyx vote doesnt grab me and im not seeing where you get the titus townread from
But I think shes scum less than i did yesterday
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Post Post #1115 (isolation #76) » Sun Aug 09, 2020 1:12 pm

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In post 1108, Titus wrote:My Gypyx read is gut but I'm a little worried about chkflip, ngl. 1) chkflip hasn't gone after me and 2) Chkflip pushed for Looker and only changed after I speculated he could be scum.
Ok Titus you got points for this one
But im not following you onto Gypyx for gut
Osukas the scum youre looking for on that train
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Post Post #1116 (isolation #77) » Sun Aug 09, 2020 1:17 pm

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In post 1095, osuka wrote:and this is a sad misrep as well. i'd like to extend my prompt to looker to you as well - please point out where i'm totally disinterested in exec'ing truth yesterday

i don't have particularly high hopes for that one since you've shown yourself completely incapable of original thought so far
Oh lol i missed this post
Read your own iso
Youre blowing hot air and resorting to lame insults of my play when all youve done this game is push a townie and come up with reasons why Truth was a bad wagon
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Post Post #1117 (isolation #78) » Sun Aug 09, 2020 1:22 pm

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In post 753, osuka wrote:
In post 750, Looker wrote:
In post 691, chkflip wrote:Okay, so I don't see the Dunnstral stuff as being anything less than genuine scumhunting. I agree that there could potentially be a maf in osuka/looker, but gun to my head I don't think it's osuka off of today's play. Maybe it's the fact that he resembles my typical style but it reads town to me as well. So my surface level reads so far aside from the obvious IC clears and the cop inno I'm willing to town bucket Dunn and osuka so far. If Walter wasn't IC I'd town bucket him for his post about being disappointed in his D1 play. I'd also town bucket Gyp for a reason I already don't remember off my skim. I'll look back again to find that post if you'd like but you inno'd him, so, I don't think it matters that much.

The more I look at Truth the more I see newb!scum. The aversion to being "honest," the awkward 2-team question piling in with the other newb card self-awareness he keeps doing just isn't sitting well with me rn.
What do you think about superbowl?

  • Are OMGUS's no longer scummy? Can anyone tell me why osuka and superbowl both tried to dogpile me? It didn't come across in what they posted. Redtea's absence and no one calling him out on it is kind of suspect to me, coupled with superbowl switching out our names before going V/LA himself. These reticent non-voters aren't really helpful either.
  • If we had 13 players and 3 are scum, that's about one out of four players. We had superbowl vs bugspray and osuka vs psyche - by the odds one of superbowl or osuka should be scum. I don't see how the worst could be so confident that osuka is not.
  • Does anyone know why superbowl voted me before running away?
  • Does anyone feel that Dunnstral has an actual "list"? Of course I'm paranoid/bias because he's targeting me, but I would expect 'I don't want to vote other people' to bring about a little more questioning.
lol this is a scumpost

I’m down to vote truth or looker this game, leaning towards looker because truth just plays such a weird game that it’s honestly kind of entertaining
Still voting truth but shifting away
In post 760, osuka wrote:VOTE: looker
Momentum moves to Looker, good opportunity to finally shift away from the bus
In post 888, osuka wrote:i'm not moving my vote from looker. most of his content-heavy posts are full of completely cold takes and nothing else, and he keeps saying the obvious. truth is a distraction _regardless_ of alignment because the slot is so fucking weird that no manner of common sense can help sort it in the slightest

overly defensive about the paranoia bullshit which, frankly, comes more often from town than it does from scum (because scum don't have to worry about being pocketed at all and manipulated nearly as much as town), and the fact that he hasn't pointed that out yet is frankly puzzling
Justification only comes later complete with another "no point in voting Truth" post

Lip service to the truth bus but he didnt really want it if he could help it
Anger after the hammer was also weirdly timed for someone who aparently didnt care about Truth that much
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Post Post #1118 (isolation #79) » Sun Aug 09, 2020 1:23 pm

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Clickthrough the quotes for timing context its important
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Post Post #1121 (isolation #80) » Sun Aug 09, 2020 1:31 pm

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Im curious abt your other reads Walter
Dunn chk Titus? And Gypyx too
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Post Post #1123 (isolation #81) » Sun Aug 09, 2020 1:40 pm

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In post 1059, chkflip wrote:Titus is definitely smart enough to bus, it just doesn't read like a bus to me (which is one reason I'm looking forward to their VCA tomorrow). And as much as I'd like to point at Nep for one reason or another (coming straight in with the Truth vote, for example) something about their posting is ringing town to me. PoE.
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Post Post #1124 (isolation #82) » Sun Aug 09, 2020 1:44 pm

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In post 1122, chkflip wrote:Her paranoia of me is a bit reassuring, honestly. I think she immediately went after me in our last game where she was scum and I was 3p (so not aligned together) but didn't as much when we were both town. This reads more like the latter than the former and I'm trying not to Nero Cain her here where I just always scum read her no matter what. I'm trying to, uh, what's the word I'm looking for OH GROW AS A PERSON. Heh.
In hindsight Titus has more going for her than others
Her last post was towny and her move onto Truth makes sense
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Post Post #1127 (isolation #83) » Sun Aug 09, 2020 1:58 pm

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In post 1125, osuka wrote:when i flip green, i just want you all to look back to this page and figure out who the scum trying to get me out of the game is
Scare tactics lol
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Post Post #1130 (isolation #84) » Sun Aug 09, 2020 2:01 pm

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Saying youre town doesnt make you town
Your actions speak for themself
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Post Post #1135 (isolation #85) » Sun Aug 09, 2020 2:45 pm

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In post 1132, osuka wrote:you're saying looker is a townie? puzzling, truthfully
It sounds like this is the first youre hearing of it
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Post Post #1137 (isolation #86) » Sun Aug 09, 2020 2:56 pm

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In post 1134, osuka wrote:the vote really means nothing at that point because the lynch wasn't set. more importantly: if i were scum, why the fuck would i start to bus truth and then leave when the wagon picked up? that's completely moronic because it's the downside of a bus (getting your partner killed) with none of the upside (towncred). do you really think I'm _that_ stupid?
You left when the Looker wagon picked up
It was an opportunity that mightve worked if the day had gone differently
I agree committing to the bus wouldve been more effective but thats hindsight not stupidity
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Post Post #1138 (isolation #87) » Sun Aug 09, 2020 3:03 pm

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In post 1134, osuka wrote:looker only really started looking scummy after he tried to make a shit case on me and failed. that's when i really started to sr him over truth, if you look around those posts you'll find that. that had nothing to do with wagon momentum and i'll even argue that looker's wagon picked up momentum _because_ of my post, to begin with
You being the fourth vote on Looker after rapidfire votes on them from Titus and tw had nothing to do with momentum huh
Looker looked (lol) like a promising wagon even past my rep in and then up until tws change of heart
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Post Post #1139 (isolation #88) » Sun Aug 09, 2020 3:05 pm

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Actually my post downplays that its really Titus and chk who were responsible for bringing Truth to elim
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Post Post #1141 (isolation #89) » Sun Aug 09, 2020 4:21 pm

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30 pages is nothing
What do you think about osuka yourself, am i full of it or no
But yeah ty
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Post Post #1142 (isolation #90) » Sun Aug 09, 2020 4:25 pm

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You got dunn to do something day 2 can you do it again
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Post Post #1145 (isolation #91) » Mon Aug 10, 2020 12:50 am

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Something
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Post Post #1150 (isolation #92) » Mon Aug 10, 2020 5:43 am

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In post 1141, Nepenthes wrote:What do you think about osuka yourself, am i full of it or no
Hey chk cough cough
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Post Post #1156 (isolation #93) » Mon Aug 10, 2020 6:08 am

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The post hammer posting looks deliberate to me
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Post Post #1158 (isolation #94) » Mon Aug 10, 2020 6:12 am

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Tbh gypyx might need to go regardless but i want to be convinced
Chk/Looker/Dunn/Titus town but they except chk need to do more
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Post Post #1159 (isolation #95) » Mon Aug 10, 2020 6:13 am

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In post 1157, WaltertheDunce10 wrote:
In post 1156, Nepenthes wrote:The post hammer posting looks deliberate to me
From who?
From osuka it looked lamist like most of his posting
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Post Post #1161 (isolation #96) » Mon Aug 10, 2020 6:18 am

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Chk telling me to fuck off but then answering anyways is a representation of this entire game in miniature
While im at it 1077 is bull bc everybody knows tw was the only night 2 kill ever so i dont buy osukas "nooo not him"
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Post Post #1162 (isolation #97) » Mon Aug 10, 2020 6:21 am

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In post 1160, chkflip wrote:Nep, you're saying you think osuka was posturing in twilight? Why would he have to do that?
At a guess its an attempt to look like angry town
Quoting that nobody here can read him
Saying "when i flip green"
Expressing disappointment at the tw kill when everybody knew he was going
Looking angry abt truth being elimmed in the first place after giving "scummy but entertaining" as a reason to keep them alive over Looker
Lots of lamist posting that doesnt ring true
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Post Post #1164 (isolation #98) » Mon Aug 10, 2020 6:26 am

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You disappoint me walter
Be more interested youre the ic
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Post Post #1166 (isolation #99) » Mon Aug 10, 2020 6:27 am

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Lol
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Post Post #1193 (isolation #100) » Tue Aug 11, 2020 3:02 am

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In post 1181, chkflip wrote:Yeah I can see what you're saying. I guess I'm just giving the similar playstyle too much of the benefit of the doubt?
Your play this game isnt similar to osukas, youre hunting
But you are both filled with hatred
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Post Post #1194 (isolation #101) » Tue Aug 11, 2020 3:03 am

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In post 1190, superbowl9 wrote:No matter how much osuka I read he's still null -.-

I'm thinking maybe a titus and looker team? Scum titus makes this game make a lot of sense, town titus makes me very confused
If Looker was scum id consider scum titus more strongly but looker isnt scum
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Post Post #1196 (isolation #102) » Tue Aug 11, 2020 3:12 am

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Itd be really funny if i just said tone
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Post Post #1197 (isolation #103) » Tue Aug 11, 2020 3:18 am

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Lookers behavior leading up to the truth elim wasnt a buddys behavior, esp not that hammer that takes zero advantage of it being a scum hammer
Their self righteousness is town and its not reading lamist or orchestrated to me
Also theyre voting osuka
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Post Post #1199 (isolation #104) » Tue Aug 11, 2020 3:22 am

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You didnt hard defend truth but you sure did enjoy talking abt why you wouldnt vote them
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Post Post #1225 (isolation #105) » Wed Aug 12, 2020 6:07 am

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Osukas at L-1 claim intent before hammer
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Post Post #1228 (isolation #106) » Wed Aug 12, 2020 6:09 am

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Osuka do you have a second choice to elim besides Looker
Tbh titus i could flashwagon superbowl
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Post Post #1231 (isolation #107) » Wed Aug 12, 2020 6:17 am

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Ill move if theres support
Superbowl/osuka isnt a team though
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Post Post #1232 (isolation #108) » Wed Aug 12, 2020 6:17 am

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In post 1230, WaltertheDunce10 wrote:VOTE: unvote
Don't want scum to get any ideas.
Leave the vote on a scum quickhammer just gives them away
Cant speak for dumb town i guess
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Post Post #1255 (isolation #109) » Wed Aug 12, 2020 10:21 am

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In post 1246, Gypyx wrote:fuck

also, just saying that now, but like, nep being an alt kinda worries me, considering that the slot he replaced in was fairly scummy
What does me being an alt have to do with that
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Post Post #1256 (isolation #110) » Wed Aug 12, 2020 10:24 am

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Im not voting looker but if the games going to continue to be "what if looker" for the rest of it then elim them
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Post Post #1257 (isolation #111) » Wed Aug 12, 2020 10:27 am

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But its more useful if everyone takes a stand on osuka vs. looker now
Superbowl can wait a flashwagon now would be more harmful than useful
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Post Post #1285 (isolation #112) » Wed Aug 12, 2020 1:12 pm

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In post 1282, Titus wrote:I don't think with my real life that I am capable of swinging a wagon. Then again, with the people suggesting that I am bussing Looker for towncred, it might not be thd best idea to change today. It reeks of knowing Looker will flip scum.
superbowl says youre scum w Looker
Osuka says youre scum on Looker townflip
Lol
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Post Post #1287 (isolation #113) » Wed Aug 12, 2020 1:16 pm

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In post 1275, superbowl9 wrote:Yes
Especially because yall will eat up her VCA in which she points out she bussed her partner who is clearly going to be an elim at some point
What do you scumread abt titus
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Post Post #1289 (isolation #114) » Wed Aug 12, 2020 1:20 pm

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In post 1286, Titus wrote:Given I FoSed Superbowl and his response is to call me scum with Looker, I am thinking it's a case of he doth protest too much.

I could be wrong though. Yesterday's wagons were close too.
Idk superbowl hasnt made any interesting moves besides push Looker so i doubt thats a team
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Post Post #1290 (isolation #115) » Wed Aug 12, 2020 1:21 pm

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In post 1288, chkflip wrote:Don't like the early osuka claim.
Also don't like the Looker AtE.

Lookers EoD posts tho.

VOTE: osuka E1

I ACTIVATE MY TRAP CARD! DUNNSTRAL'S ARRIVAL! WITH THIS CARD, DUNNSTRAL WILL...

He will...

Uh...

participate?

<_<

My Dunnstral townread is fading my dudes.
I accept your declaration of love chk
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Post Post #1348 (isolation #116) » Sun Aug 16, 2020 10:47 am

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In post 1345, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 1343, WaltertheDunce10 wrote:Why am I alive?
In post 1344, WaltertheDunce10 wrote:Osuka dunn superbowl has a scum among them.

bingo
So scums in Nep/chk/Gypyx for you
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Post Post #1349 (isolation #117) » Sun Aug 16, 2020 10:50 am

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Walter was listing the nontown on the looker wagon lol
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Post Post #1351 (isolation #118) » Sun Aug 16, 2020 10:52 am

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In post 1347, superbowl9 wrote:Well fuck

I guess titus was on for the vca or scum is just wifoming? Gonna try to reevaluate this game, my townreads are probably wrong
Who were your townreads

Osuka im unconvinced youre town but feel free to try again
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Post Post #1357 (isolation #119) » Sun Aug 16, 2020 11:30 am

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VOTE: Dunn
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Post Post #1359 (isolation #120) » Sun Aug 16, 2020 11:37 am

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That fills me w confidence
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Post Post #1360 (isolation #121) » Sun Aug 16, 2020 11:38 am

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Youre not in a position to criticize walter here dunn
play the game
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Post Post #1361 (isolation #122) » Sun Aug 16, 2020 11:44 am

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My reads havent changed. gypyx town, chk maybe town, osuka/superbowl has exactly one scum, Titus kill may or may not be relevant to that but she was never getting eliminated anyway
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Post Post #1362 (isolation #123) » Sun Aug 16, 2020 11:48 am

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Assuming 3 scum ans another fuckup today tomorrow is.............
.....................
Is there a new acronym......
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Post Post #1369 (isolation #124) » Mon Aug 17, 2020 4:34 am

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It means superbowls vote history is awful
Gypyx Looker is dead
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Post Post #1370 (isolation #125) » Mon Aug 17, 2020 4:36 am

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In post 1352, superbowl9 wrote:You dunn and gypyx
What are your thoughts on chk
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Post Post #1373 (isolation #126) » Mon Aug 17, 2020 8:35 am

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In post 1371, WaltertheDunce10 wrote:Dooes awful= scum?
Being attracted to town elims and repelled from scum ones is scummy yes
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Post Post #1374 (isolation #127) » Mon Aug 17, 2020 8:36 am

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In post 1372, chkflip wrote:
In post 1369, Nepenthes wrote:It means superbowls vote history is awful
Gypyx Looker is dead
I would argue osuka is equally as bad but I'll follow your lead here. Dunnstral is a bad vote imo.
Theyre both bad yeah
UNVOTE:
I dont sr Dunn
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Post Post #1378 (isolation #128) » Mon Aug 17, 2020 12:45 pm

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How does someone come up with being steered in the wrong direction by me when youve been ignoring all my takes and never voting w me
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Post Post #1379 (isolation #129) » Mon Aug 17, 2020 12:46 pm

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Like how does town who was wrong on looker and truth think Neps been steering them wrong when ive been saying Lookers town all game
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Post Post #1380 (isolation #130) » Mon Aug 17, 2020 12:52 pm

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Dunn and Gypyx are both TRs but their plays been disappointing w Dunn not participating except to hammer and gypyx not reading carefully

Might do some reading tonight but tbh id rather see more from literally everybody
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Post Post #1381 (isolation #131) » Mon Aug 17, 2020 12:54 pm

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In post 1379, Nepenthes wrote:Like how does town who was wrong on looker and truth think Neps been steering them wrong when ive been saying Lookers town all game
I also was pretty clear abt Titus town so superbowl trying to pass the buck to being pocketed is lol
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Post Post #1383 (isolation #132) » Mon Aug 17, 2020 2:28 pm

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Sharing some reads with you =/= steering you in a wrong direction
Your examples of reads youve been wrong on dont follow with thinking youre pocketed by me
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Post Post #1385 (isolation #133) » Mon Aug 17, 2020 2:35 pm

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Youre right chk I cant believe ive been ignoring all this other content thats been going on
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Post Post #1386 (isolation #134) » Mon Aug 17, 2020 2:37 pm

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What makes a comment surface level, superbowls given the perspective he could be pocketed by me and/or osuka and im interrogating that
Its mafia
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Post Post #1388 (isolation #135) » Mon Aug 17, 2020 2:45 pm

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I post as thoughts occur

Im only voting superbowl or osuka today so we'll see abt it
Im so sorry I enraged you by implying you havent done enough youre obviously fine lmao
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Post Post #1398 (isolation #136) » Tue Aug 18, 2020 10:28 am

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More interested in osuka and superbowls reads on each other and why
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Post Post #1400 (isolation #137) » Tue Aug 18, 2020 12:26 pm

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Can they both be scum
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Post Post #1411 (isolation #138) » Wed Aug 19, 2020 8:40 am

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In post 1408, superbowl9 wrote:Gypyx what was the case on him besides bad vote history and not doing anything?
I like how you word this like this isnt enough
Dunn hasnt done anything else so there wouldnt be anything else to a case
Not that i think rly hes scum but
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Post Post #1412 (isolation #139) » Wed Aug 19, 2020 8:41 am

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VOTE: osuka
Even Stevens
superbowl i still wanna know your osuka read
Dunn i dont want your sheep i want your opinions
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Post Post #1414 (isolation #140) » Wed Aug 19, 2020 8:46 am

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Thats L-1
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Post Post #1449 (isolation #141) » Thu Aug 20, 2020 6:35 am

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The game needed this
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Post Post #1450 (isolation #142) » Thu Aug 20, 2020 6:43 am

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Might vote superbowl for never arguing hes town but rather arguing hes basically the same as osuka but osuka is slightly slightly slightly worse
Thats beautiful
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Post Post #1470 (isolation #143) » Thu Aug 20, 2020 12:00 pm

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In post 1458, chkflip wrote:The osuka aggro reads fake to me.
Idk i kind of get it
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Post Post #1471 (isolation #144) » Thu Aug 20, 2020 12:03 pm

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What are you both actually arguing here i think you both know its a bunch of bs and that unique pushes arent something to be proud of if theyre wrong anyway
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Post Post #1474 (isolation #145) » Thu Aug 20, 2020 12:11 pm

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In post 1377, superbowl9 wrote:When this has happened before I've usually been getting pocketed and steered in the wrong direction so I'm looking at nep and osuka since yall seem to be most in that position
Come to think of it whyd you say osuka couldve been pocketing you/steering you wrong
You dont mention him on your TR list and you apparently did not follow him with Looker

Thats right chk its part 2 of me fixating on this post
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Post Post #1476 (isolation #146) » Thu Aug 20, 2020 12:21 pm

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And yet
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Post Post #1611 (isolation #147) » Tue Sep 01, 2020 5:33 am

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gg guys was fun
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Post Post #1617 (isolation #148) » Tue Sep 01, 2020 11:26 am

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I literally let you yeah thats a regret
But good job
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Post Post #1628 (isolation #149) » Thu Sep 03, 2020 3:33 am

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PT was a fun read
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