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[Something_Smart]

RIP BananaCucho.

[Something_Smart]

Also RIP me for being up this late.

[Something_Smart]

VOTE: androgybee

Can we not troll please

[Something_Smart]

Radical Rat is Radical Town.

[Something_Smart]

The flavor crumb in 9 is like, totally legit, man.

And yeah it could be fake flavor but crumbing fake flavor seems far less likely.

[Something_Smart]

Im bad at reading crumbs/flavor, can you explain?

I mean it's presumably a religious crumb, I would not expect Radical Rat to pull this out of nowhere (I may be wrong, though).

[Something_Smart]

Why do you think they're trolling?
Or, perhaps said in another way, why are you voting them?

The vote is just to indicate my distaste that they made me legitimately stress about what they said until I decided to ask Dunn if such a thing was possible and he said no.

[Something_Smart]

Radical Rat said "something something sayeth

the lord

" which may be a flavor claim to Saintess, etc.

-Dumbass

Okay well I wasn't gonna say it but yes since you mentioned it anyway I thought it could have been a saintess crumb.

[Something_Smart]

I just said it was a generic religious crumb, which it well could have been, the saintess thing just also crossed my mind. Even if it wasn't a saintess crumb it was still towny.

[Something_Smart]

I'm sorry for dropping that vote and disappearing but in retrospect I like the discussion it caused.

[Something_Smart]

It's not super common, and this setup isn't very thematic anyway. It's something I might expect from specific people, but Radical Rat is not among them.

[Something_Smart]

Hey, you could have asked him too before you did it.

[Something_Smart]

I'm sorry, I do feel bad shooting down your gambit, but it was just so annoying to consider the possibility of. If you'd picked a penalty that was less severe I probably would have let it be.

[Something_Smart]

Not to mention it's kinda funny.

you have a pretty sick sense of humor

[Something_Smart]

How do you know scum have daytalk?

[Something_Smart]

Fair enough.

[Something_Smart]

@SS What exactly did you ask the mod about? Like, bee's claim specifically or post restrictions in general?

I asked about post restrictions applying to a player without their knowledge.

[Something_Smart]

Catboi's attitude to the game in post 181 is shit and i want to vote there now.

What's wrong with it

[Something_Smart]

I felt it was a pretty good climax. Everyone's unsure of whether to trust it and some people are following it out of fear and then I drop a cryptic vote and leave, and then right at the height of the discussion I reveal that I knew it was a bluff all along.

[Something_Smart]

I know other folks asked this both before and after this post, but pointing this out is scummy AF.

but I was not the one who pointed it out

[Something_Smart]

What did you like about it?

arguably it was the major thing that kickstarted non-RVS discussion

[Something_Smart]

At the very least, it was a significant source of the same.

[Something_Smart]

What's shit about it?

I've answered this exact question 10 times now.

Just link it, she clearly isn't caught up

[Something_Smart]

I have lost any semblance of a townread I had on androgybee

Explain

[Something_Smart]

I feel like they're unenthused more than I'd expect them to be, and I dislike their Jackel take.

- Dumber

What Banana said, and also, why would you not expect them to be unenthused after their gambit was shot down?

[Something_Smart]

You lied about the corruption? Y tho

Rad Rat playing into it made me town read him.
Which gave me my first good read of the game.

People act AI in response to trolling because town can be pretty silly and speculative in regards to what you say. Not to mention it's kinda funny.

~Bee

The motivation seems pretty clear to me?

[Something_Smart]

@Something_Smart: Is your vote still where you want it? What are your current reads and opinions?

It's still a protest vote so sure?

I'll have to get back to you on reads

[Something_Smart]

Hmm uh

Radical Rat is still town

androgybee, D&D, catboi > rand town?

[Something_Smart]

328 is funny and probably > rand town

[Something_Smart]

Norwee is annoying but I don't think that's AI. He was pretty annoying in Smuggler's Port and he was town.

[Something_Smart]

It's not a read

[Something_Smart]

It should be, i still don’t know who you scumread or where you want to place your vote.

That makes two of us!

[Something_Smart]

Who is alligator

[Something_Smart]

Why are we randtown?
What do you think of the fact that I scumread you?

I don't remember

I didn't know that you scumread me

[Something_Smart]

It makes you slightly townier

Posting what?

[Something_Smart]

oh nvm I see it

because going against the grain and scumreading someone you believe to be widely townread is towny, so long as they are in fact town

[Something_Smart]

I'm not sure exactly where to put them, but I just wanted to make it known since I'm seeing a lot of people saying they're townreading him.

what is this then

[Something_Smart]

I await your explanation beyond "lol he's passive"

[Something_Smart]

Huh
OK I forgot that I wrote that and do not currently believe you to be widely townread

- Dumber

That hardly matters, because it seems like you believed it when you formed the read.

[Something_Smart]

It basically is just that tho :/

Well that's bad then. I'm passive as town too. Sometimes even more passive? But it depends on the game. My wim has been pretty low as both alignments recently, even for me.

[Something_Smart]

you think I'm more self-conscious as town?

almost nobody is more self-conscious as town, least of all me

when someone drops a post, especially a read list, when I'm scum, the first thing I look for is their read on me

I sometimes do this as town too but I'm a lot less likely to forget it as scum

[Something_Smart]

Actually, i’m super self-concious as town.
And i’ve gotten scumread for it about a thousand times now

My guess is this is just because you are self-conscious in general, and not specifically as town.

Regardless it's definitely a standard trait to be more self-conscious as scum than as town, and I am that.

[Something_Smart]

Have you found any scumreads yet?

No

[Something_Smart]

i have a recent sample size of 1 with im where i correctly scumread him

When was this?

[Something_Smart]

I strongly disagree. I consider, and sometimes even use self-consciousness as a town tell.
Town has a mob of people constantly watching + evaluating them while having little information themself, whereas scum know they've got people looking out for them.

Well maybe it's more player-specific than I'm giving it credit for, but in my opinion, town know they have nothing to hide and anyone who challenges them on that is Wrong. Whereas scum DO have something to hide and they know that anyone challenging them on that is Right, and that's bound to affect their interactions. It's going to make them afraid that they might be giving something away, because they actually have something to give away.

At least, that's what I'm like!

[Something_Smart]

S_S if you're still here: last time we played (it was Trust Fall, i was on my alt Tipsy) i scumread you correctly on an IIoA basis. but like, sample size of 1 and all that. now that Trust Fall is over, would you say that was a fair read or do think I just got lucky there?

~Nahdia

right I forgot that game happened lol

I'm pretty IIoA as either alignment. I will have to go back and look at exactly what you said about me, one moment

[Something_Smart]

ok so nahdia it seems that your big issue was that I did a lot of "analysis" and not a lot of reads, but when I questioned you on why making reads as scum was harder than making analysis, you said that you thought we had different definitions of analysis. And given that IIoA implies a lack of analysis, it kinda sounds like you're the one using it incorrectly...?

But no matter. As I defined it, it wasn't scummy for me to do a lot of analysis and not a lot of reads; it was just a coincidence I believe. That said it is entirely possible that you did catch on to something valid there, but I don't think it could have been my lack of reads.

[Something_Smart]

basically in that game and this one, most of his content is reactive to the game happening around him as opposed to proactively sorting and forming reads.

Yup. This is how I operate. Ask uhh

Shit there's actually not a lot of players here that are familiar with me. Maybe Porkens?

[Something_Smart]

boop

[Something_Smart]

I would probably not recommend trusting secondhand meta on all but the most objective of claims.

[Something_Smart]

Smart: everything ok, bud? What's up with the loss of wim? Your tone feels off (not in the scummy sense) to me.

-Your opposite

Idk

Probably my boring-ass summer internship is making my life feel real boring.

It ends next week though so I guess we get to test that theory (after that weekend where I'll be out of town :X)

[Something_Smart]

Somebody give me the tl;dr on the NDMath case

[Something_Smart]

Somebody give me the tl;dr on the NDMath case

But nobody came...