Mini Theme 2155: SIN: This Impurity must be Cleansed!

[androgybee]

This is a hard claim.

Everyone in this game has the following post restriction,

Corruption

must be said using the following code. Otherwise we will automatically lower your corruption level at night. Please do not make me hurt you I would be very sad if I did.

Code: Select all

 [color=#8080BF][b]Corruption[/b][/color]

~Bee

[androgybee]

Don't be afraid of the corruption people. Because a cleansing fire will surely flood this sinful city and free us from it's menace.

Lmao RIP you.

~Bee

[androgybee]

RIP you as well, wrong color code. Although it might be ok by the mod so I'd keep trying!!
I meant raise, I have not actually read my role pm, I've only been described it through Nat. My bad if that confused you and made you take some DPS.

~Bee

[androgybee]

If it decreased I'd probably just say nothing since everyone will say corruption without a color code and bolding anyway lol.
If it increased it and I was scum I'd just say nothing and literally wack everyone. This is the one it does btw I am just stupid.

Bow down to my strength as I proceed to tag all of you.

~Bee

[androgybee]

You should only be hit once per night if I understand the role correctly.
But you should use proper etiquette to not confuse anyone since if they your misuse of

Corruption

they might mess up.

Who wants to be on reminder duty to post our restriction every few pages? Because I am lazy.


~Bee

[androgybee]

I've read it now to make sure it did damage and to check if it would multi-hit people.
Nat wouldn't lie to me about the contents, that would be a bit sus. I am going to move on with my day, miss you guys

~Bee

[androgybee]

Rat is town for getting hit by our role on purpose btw.

~Bee

[androgybee]

ftr theres nothing about

Corruption

needing to be bold. it just needs to be formatted like the mod has been to avoid the "taboo", basically. anyway

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VOTE: Prism

-natdia

[androgybee]

VOTE: androgybee

Can we not troll please

The

Corruption

will consume the non believers.
Quite literally actually.

~Bee

[androgybee]

BananaCucho are you a third party?
Wanting corruptions sounds very 3p to me, I guess a town role with the power to tag literally everyone could make your role town?. Like what your describing doesn't make sense as either town or scum to me lol.

~Bee

[androgybee]

^ I have concluded the above is stupid. Thank you for your time.

~Bee

[androgybee]

My reads remain unchanged, thank you everyone for your time.
Joey thinking I am an easy read relies on me playing at a level I no longer have the time to do.

But I appreciate that he still believes in me.

~Bee

[androgybee]

VOTE: androgybee

Can we not troll please

Why do you think they're trolling?
Or, perhaps said in another way, why are you voting them?

- Dumber

Why do you assume he's being voted for trolling?

your ISO looks like scum trying to generate content. ask stupid questions, get serious votes:

VOTE: Joey_

~Natdia

[androgybee]

i dont remember your scumplay

~natdia

[androgybee]

i dont remember your scumplay

~natdia

Do you remember my t play then?

Also it's pretty clear my ''stupid question'' you quoted while voting me had a lot of thought process behind it, showed by 87.
Not understanding a question doesn't make it stupid and assuming that I am making this up instead of questioning me is lazy at best

sorry, most of my meta knowledge is gone. i replaced it all with facts about

staphylococcus aureus

.

i see you had a thought process, but i don't really buy its verisimilitude. S_S's thought process with their vote was pretty transparent, I thought (i pretty much agree with D&D's assessment). as an entrance, voting someone you think is trolling is just as legitimate as voting someone you think is scum. you're overthinking it, which i see as a bit scummy.

[androgybee]

Why do you think they're trolling?
Or, perhaps said in another way, why are you voting them?

The vote is just to indicate my distaste that they made me legitimately stress about what they said until I decided to ask Dunn if such a thing was possible and he said no.

Toxic game mod ngl.

~Bee

[androgybee]

I had so many other way to expand the role in ways that wasn't even close to reasonable =(
I was going to quote the post of me saying "corruption" and say our role wasn't active for the day.

Then I had a bunch of other ideas Nat didn't even know about. =/ Never lucky.

~Bee

[androgybee]

You lied about the corruption? Y tho

Rad Rat playing into it made me town read him.
Which gave me my first good read of the game.

People act AI in response to trolling because town can be pretty silly and speculative in regards to what you say. Not to mention it's kinda funny.

~Bee

[androgybee]

I felt really guilty seeing the hope in your eyes.
Knowing I'd have to come up with an excuse to let you know it wouldn't work mid day.

Poor Cucho

~Bee

[androgybee]

I currently townread Banana

and retract my scumpings on SS and Joey, and retract my townpings on Bee

I also have townpings on NorwegianBoy

- Dumber

Explain?

[androgybee]

(●ↀωↀ●) something_smart is obvious town for 114.

(๑ↀᆺↀ๑) Porkens is also town for his interpretation of the claim, thinking Radical Rat was trying to avoid getting corruption lowered and being suspicious of it.

(^・ω・^ ) androgybee probably town? Banana town, I guess. Radical Rat probably town for reasons stated in response to claim.


୧(๑•̀ᗝ•́)૭ Mafia: Dumb and Dumber, Norwee, redtea


(ﾉ^ヮ^)ﾉ*:・ﾟ✧ Easy game, people~

ヾ(・ω・*) i like your reads, though the porkens one doesnt make much sense to me... any thoughts on joey? i feel like theyve still had some of the juiciest content.

~Natdia

[androgybee]

VOTE: Porkens
Shameless OMGUS

Why do people townread this?

do you scumread that post? it seems wholly null to me. the rest of their posts are easier to read into though.

~natdia

[androgybee]

will catchup soon, apologies.

[androgybee]

Why vote Jackel? I am town reading him.

~Bee

[androgybee]

Like I don't have a scum read on the alligator

There's literally nothing there to read either way. How can you town read them?

I liked the post on Joey felt more like solving then wolf making comments.
Like it was kinda observant I guess, shows he was pinged by Joey and either double checked his ISO or put his posts into his memory to make that kind of connection.

He is definitely well above average as far as 4 posters are concerned.

~Bee

[androgybee]

Now that I've explained why I find him town.
Can someone voting me do the opposite.

~Bee

[androgybee]

voting him*

[androgybee]

We are catching up and compiling now. Many apologies, I overgamed myself, but I am committed.

~Nahdia

[androgybee]

So I intend to weigh in on wagons that actually have some traction right now, but my biggest scumread mid-catchup is NDMath.
228 feels very much like a bullshitted read. and looking through the rest of his ISO it's just reactive and noncommittal.

~Nahdia

[androgybee]

Redtea do you have any confident reads or nah?
I am reading your ISO and I see a lot of thoughts but I am unable to paint a clear picture as to what any of them mean.

~Bee

[androgybee]

I also take back my Jackel read on the basis of "hasn't done anything since"

~Bee

[androgybee]

Spoiler: funny nonsense

Hey, I'm back from vacation last week and job interviews yesterday, and I've been spending most of today reading and making reads. I'll admit that I froze up a couple times when thinking about coming back and doing this, and I'm really sorry for not posting since the beginning. I'll be posting more soon, but first I'm gonna

VOTE: NorwegianboyEE

and joey, like, I'm ok with you calling me alligator but please use my listed pronouns

The plot thickens

That is a post

Is it tho?

Technically, yeah

i just wanted to highlight that this made me laugh a lot

~Nahdia

Can you post a reads list Androgybee? I wanna see where your head is at.

still in process, but i'll give you a glimpse at the work in progress, at least from my end.

town: norwegian, banana
townlean: joey, D&D
mixed: catboi
scummy: NDMath

still plenty of slots i want to look at closer. in particular jackal ofc, since that seems to be a focal point. redtea bee has been soundboarding on me about but i havent really given that ISO a close look. he seems unsure anyway so

~Nahdia

[androgybee]

NDMath has replaced Redtea imo in the "acceptable day 1 lynches" pool

you think he's bait?

~Nahdia

[androgybee]

NDMath has replaced Redtea imo in the "acceptable day 1 lynches" pool

you think he's bait?

~Nahdia

I'm not sure what you mean

I'm not sure what you meant, lol. Do you mean you're down to execute NDMath? Or do you mean that NDMath looks like an easy consensus execution that scum would be likely to pile onto?

[androgybee]

my experience of norwegian is that he is indeed a lot more brazen as scum.
i need to talk to beeboy about it but im actually not sold on the jackel vote. her ISO is sparse yes but like, doesn't scream scum to me? is there a case someone can point me to? i like the NDMath vote a lot better.
i need to do a reread of S_S. feel like i haven treally noticed his presence his game. i have a recent sample size of 1 with im where i correctly scumread him, so i guess ill look for the same things i did in that game.

~Nahdia

[androgybee]

bell is town

~nahdia

[androgybee]

bell is town

~nahdia

Expand?

bee felt radical rat was probtown. liked that you hit the ground running with a townread that i agree with. think scum replacing into a fairly slow gamestate would be happy to just blend in, but you seem to want to make waves which i think is towny.

~Nahdia

[androgybee]

How would anyone replacing into a slot would know that the gamestate is fairly slow when they just got the slot 2 minutes before posting.

.......they requested prods on 3 players.

~nahdia

[androgybee]

feel like im being misunderstood here, not sure if it's deliberate or not but it sure feels obtuse, and im not gonna bother trying to clarify further if you can't see it.

~nahdia

[androgybee]

it's not that many words, actually.

[androgybee]

im really not worried with how anyone us reading our slot this game, actually. so think what you want.

[androgybee]

im really not worried with how anyone us reading our slot this game, actually. so think what you want.

Why not? if youre softing PR just for the sake of this argument its petty/scummy

it'll make sense.

when I said "make waves" i literally just meant theyre not settling into the gamestate they noted by asking for multiple prods. they're asking questions. they're generating content that doesn't feel like just treading water.

~nahdia

[androgybee]

im really not worried with how anyone us reading our slot this game, actually. so think what you want.

Why not? if youre softing PR just for the sake of this argument its petty/scummy

it'll make sense.

when I said "make waves" i literally just meant theyre not settling into the gamestate they noted by asking for multiple prods. they're asking questions. they're generating content that doesn't feel like just treading water.

~nahdia

Is that why you went with the yolo hardclaim play. Also do you know who I am? I think I assumed you knew

yeah you're cloudkicker, right? i forget the name i knew you by before that, but i know we go back.

~nahdia

[androgybee]

and to answer your other post, i thought the question you asked earlier was literally stupid. like, a question with no possible benefit to the answer.

[androgybee]

i gave one kinda recently, dont think any of those stated reads have changed. im gonna go read S_S's iso literally right now and get back to you on that.

[androgybee]

ill also say wrt to jackel, i have no reason to townread the slot but their readlist doesnt look particularly bad for any reason to me and im pretty worried they could be a misexecution. so i'd rather we aim at a slot i actually find scummy (NDMath).

[androgybee]

S_S if you're still here: last time we played (it was Trust Fall, i was on my alt Tipsy) i scumread you correctly on an IIoA basis. but like, sample size of 1 and all that. now that Trust Fall is over, would you say that was a fair read or do think I just got lucky there?

~Nahdia

[androgybee]

to be fair, porkens has barely been mentioned.

~nahdia

[androgybee]

so i read S_S and i pretty much have the same assessment of him i did in trust fall. i think i got my wires crossed a little in that game wrt how i was explaining my read (tbf, i do post very stream of consciousness of that account so sometimes things get mixed up) but basically in that game and this one, most of his content is reactive to the game happening around him as opposed to proactively sorting and forming reads.

meta sample size of 1 and all that, but i would indeed vote there as well.

~nahdia

[androgybee]

Nat, i read math

I think he has bad lines and some good one. It could go both ways because he has so few posts. I don't really think he's that good of an associative flip tho, but that never stopped me roping people before so If you can make me see it, ill vote

did you have a reaction to 226? I got massive scumpings off of it. felt like such a transparently bullshit read. easy to see and concrete foundation but entirely surface level and not actually based on anything AI. like, it can just be a Bad Read but the way they gave it makes me feel like it's just scum trying to out a quick read so they can point to content theyve had right from the start.

~Nahdia (for anyone that's confused, some people in this game call me Nat because that's like, my actual name).

[androgybee]

link me a recent towngame?

[androgybee]

i mean normally i refuse to meta-dive people but in this case i was looking for a very specific behavior.

and yeah, i even see in that game maxwell got on your case about the same thing im talking about here lol. so /shrug

~nahdia

[androgybee]

mind telling me what you think of NDMath?

[androgybee]

sorry banana, could you clarify what you want us to address? i didn't really understand

~Nahdia

[androgybee]

ill also say wrt to jackel, i have no reason to townread the slot but their readlist doesnt look particularly bad for any reason to me and im pretty worried they could be a misexecution. so i'd rather we aim at a slot i actually find scummy (NDMath).

Ah sorry I should have continued reading, I didn't get to this post yet

OK so Bee does townread jackel (or at least, he said he did the last time he talked about her). How is he currently reading her? What do you think of the points I raised in 334?

I think she's been actively scummy, and I'm also noticing that out of jackel/redtea, there's been more support for redtea / the wagon has slowly been migrating towards redtea over jackel, and I'm not sure why that's been happening

- Dumber

bee "doesn't townread her anymore" but agrees with me that it just kind of feels like a misexecution.

~Nahdia

[androgybee]

well for me it was less apathy explicitly towards this game and more just, a lot of other things feeling more important in my brain so i kind of pushed this to the back burner for a bit. im in a few too many games rn and also just, other interests bubbling up. got the impression beeboy had a similar feeling.

~Nahdia

[androgybee]

Btw Jackel, you really need to clarify where Joey went wrong in TRing me if i'm supposed to take your read of town!Joey seriously. Do you think Joey is a bad player than is town but cannot read me as well as you can? What are your thoughts regarding this?

I can think someone is town while also hating their reads and how obtusely and self-assuredly they word everything.

໒( ⇀ ‸ ↼ )७ This is probably just scum, right?

(・・;)ゞ what about that post pings you?
~Nahdia

[androgybee]

Nahdia, if you scumread NDMath, why don’t you vote them? You know there’s a deadline yet you’ve been voting Joey all this time.

..................i thought we'd been voting NDMath for like days now.

VOTE: NDMath

~Nahdia

[androgybee]

So I intend to weigh in on wagons that actually have some traction right now, but my biggest scumread mid-catchup is NDMath.
228 feels very much like a bullshitted read. and looking through the rest of his ISO it's just reactive and noncommittal.

~Nahdia

thought i voted in this post for some reason, mb.

[androgybee]

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=83668

[androgybee]

I know it’s an unpopular proposition in this game and on mafiascum in general, but flipping a low activity player like porkens who hasn’t been mentionned can actually gives a lot of associative infos.

Porkens was mentionned a few instances in this game by few people, especially when he was being compared to the alligator/red scum pool. I think it would be relatively easy to see all the slots who actively avoided the porkens issue

I think the value in flipping a very very low activity player is if they end up being scum, there's plenty to read into. If they end up being town it's actually much harder to get anything useful. I would go there if I didn't have players I actively want to see flip.

~Nahdia

Thx.

@ What do you think of porkens? Do you feel his lack of motivation was AI

not particularly, no.

[androgybee]

lol joey i made the same connection with bell when i first saw his name. clearly not the same person tho. i cant see ali caring for forum mafia tbh.

posts like 707 where ndmath just dismisses his lack of reads with "hydras are weird" do not inspire confidence. am still cool with this execution.

~nahdia

[androgybee]

buh

[androgybee]

no one has even mentioned us today. i dont care about any of you people.

[androgybee]

i mean i lead yesterday's execution i think.

[androgybee]

I am genuinely surprised no one attacked us last night.

~Bee

[androgybee]

I don't think we are slightly townie.
I think Starbuck has a lot of posts that feel NAI or is just her agreeing with or other light comments on other peoples posts.
Like she is playing this game from a spectator or back seat position which I think is scum indicative.

I feel like she is trying to go under the radar and that means she is likely scum. I am just getting a bad vibe overall.
I also think her handling of crocodilo is a little weird.

~Bee

[androgybee]

I don't have the energy to drive this game though.
So do what you want with that read.

~Bee

[androgybee]

No comment for time being.
Please leave a message after the beep.

*beeeeeeepp*

~Bee

[androgybee]

I don't see him doing anything that points me in either direction.
And I've never been one to put a gun to my head to make a read.
I'll just sit around and do nothing until I see something that feels right.

I guess you deserve a better answer.

~Bee

[androgybee]

Hey prod recieved.
Uh on a 1-10 scale how likely are we to be yeeted today?

~Bee

[androgybee]

Ok so we are a conditional IC but the cost to trigger the action is incredibly large.

~Bee

[androgybee]

Also Dunnstral forwarded the prod to our mains so I just saw the prod now.

~Bee

[androgybee]

innocent child. we're confirmable as town.

~Nahdia

[androgybee]

as in like, the mod will publicly confirm our alignment. but again, very heavy cost.

~Nahdia

[androgybee]

gonna hold that card close to the chest for a bit. will have time to actually play this weekend (apologies, just started a new job). will assess if it's worth it to trigger then.

~nahdia

[androgybee]

we only have the one ability, which is a public action, so no.

~nahdia

[androgybee]

gonna start reading and give some thoughts on today. might also look back at how the NDMath wagon progressed and see if anything jumps out in retrospect.

our claim probably needs to be resolved today, so please hold our feet to the fire on that. dont end the day before we've elaborated.

~Nahdia

[androgybee]

there's a school of thought that by dangling information over people's heads, you get more out of that information than just revealing it right away.

~Nahdia

[androgybee]

eh. are wwe full claiming rn?

~nadia

[androgybee]

we're not an IC.

we're a suicidal role.

[androgybee]

considering we're in evens rn, there's an argument to be made for us triggering today. though it's not unlikely we'll have more multikill nights via the corruption mechanic.

Also, if you could please share what you have learned from this 2nd gambit?

ill tell you after ive learned it!

we're not an IC.

we're a suicidal role.

So when you said earlier you could: "confirm your role" you meant you just die?

basically. technically, the mod will confirm us as town....

[androgybee]

when we trigger our ability, we target someone and cure them of all corruption and make them permanently immune to gaining corruption.

wanna be voteless forever, banana?
~nahdia

[androgybee]

uh, is there some reason to be claiming role names? or are you just curious?

[androgybee]

uh, is there some reason to be claiming role names? or are you just curious?

Name please.

refer to my earlier question.

uh, is there some reason to be claiming role names?

Yes. There most definitely is.

do tell.

[androgybee]

i refuse.

if it's relevant mechanically, it's a scum ability designed to punish fullclaims.

[androgybee]

we'll suicide anyway and you'll learn the name then. before then i consider your harping on a flavor detail suspicious. anyone could come up with a fake flavor name.

i refuse.

if it's relevant mechanically, it's a scum ability designed to punish fullclaims.

Who are you going to use your suicide to purify?

not sure. who would you recommend?

Can these set ups even have punishment for full claims?

uh, absolutely.

[androgybee]

we will quite literally die on this hill.

[androgybee]

anyway it's like 4am so im goin to bed goodnight

~nahdia

[androgybee]

so i think bell is very likely town. uhh. norway is still probably town.

sorry we've been so bad this game. both of us just kind of got demotivated and yeah. we'll use our ability soon. it extends the day 24 hours, btw. do people have thoughts on who we should target?

~Nahdia

[androgybee]

idk what else about my role i need to clarify? we've full claimed it at this point, except for the flavor, which im not going to do out of principle at this point.

[androgybee]

anyone who tries to hammer us before we have the opportunity to trigger our ability is lockscum, btw. like, never ever let that live.

[androgybee]

im really not worried with how anyone us reading our slot this game, actually. so think what you want.

btw lol

[androgybee]

starbuck is either scum here or just town that isn't trying very hard. glass houses and all that but still.

maybe ill just target starbuck so they dont have an excuse to insist they need to be on EOD wagons though? what do people think of that?

~Nahdia

[androgybee]

the ability is a public action, so there's no point in being secretive about who im gonna target.

oh also i rechecked my role pm and actually i add 72 hours to the deadline, not 24!

[androgybee]

fair enough. if im shooting for town, i probably target Bell here.

i dont think starbuck should be allowed to be on EOD wagons.

~nahdia

[androgybee]

beeboy agrees with me that starbuck is scum. their catchups have been uninspiring and frankly, easy. they vote us, then unvote after our claim and say they'll re-evaluate (they dont), then accuse us of being convenient and revote when a wagon starts to form. didnt like them admitting theyre speculating on banana being a 3p, that feels like scum-mindset since town is more concerned with finding scum.

D&D still a townlean, but /shrug. havent really paid close attention there since d1
porkens claim is a little weird and seems to not fit into the rest of the setup. how many visiting roles have been claimed? at any rate, it should be tested: porkens should target a known visiting role tonight and confirm their target before that player claims tomorrow.

i havent liked jackel today either. it seems like they're just trying to be way outside the consensus in order to appear like "wrong town" but ultimately it just reads as their reads are unlikely to be real.

catboi and reatea, no idea lol.

~nahdia

[androgybee]

ive got errands to run in like an hour. i'll suicide before i go unless beeboy yells at me not to. is it worth me reading catboi and redtea's d2? when i flip town, will you listen to anything spicy i may or may not say on them?

[androgybee]

that team makes sense to me i guess, it's just one of those things where it feels too simple and im assuming i've got something wrong, you know?

~this has all been Nahdia still, ive just gotten lazy about signing all my posts.

The thing about Porkens claim tho is that scum can have that role, testing them means nothing probably since it doesn't confirm their alignment

I don't know that I can be convinced to vote elsewhere at this point

oh right u might just execute him today. that's fine too i guess? scum could have that role sure but like, what does it actually look for? im not looking at the claims list but i dont remember that many visiting roles. bell, the two clerics i guess, and uh.... anything else?

Tbh, i don’t even think Androgybee needs to suicide at this point. I’m fine with them living until we’ve played hangman with Porkens.

well we're in evens so a daykill is favorable i think?

[androgybee]

i dont wanna play outguess the mod with redtea/norway having the same role. i think it's very unlikely BOTH of them are scum, but aside from that, the role is null. redtea claiming to target no one did ping me quite a bit though.

[androgybee]

i will say ive been a bit paranoid of norway today. the way they're posturing around their reads which essentially amounts to three low-impact posters in the game. if two of three in porkens/starbuck/jackel are town, i would give him a closer look.

[androgybee]

just like, the confidence he's holding himself with. it reminds me a bit of some scum norway ive seen.

[androgybee]

mmm. the more i read the more i come to the conclusion i have nothing confidant left to give, and that i'd just be muddying the waters further with anything i do say.

good luck and godspeed.

MARTYRDOM: Bell