Mini Theme 2155: SIN: This Impurity must be Cleansed!

[Porkens]

YES! Now we can fire up the grill and fry us some pulled pork sandwiches!

SUP

[Porkens]

I’ll make a ketchup post after grocery shopping dinner etc

[Porkens]

This is a hard claim.

Everyone in this game has the following post restriction,

Corruption

must be said using the following code. Otherwise we will automatically lower your corruption level at night. Please do not make me hurt you I would be very sad if I did.

Code: Select all

 [color=#8080BF][b]Corruption[/b][/color]

~Bee

So the fakeclaim was that if we don’t format corruption in that way, our corruption level goes VOTE: down and RR was

avoiding

that. And that is townread why? Because some roles “might” use corruption differently, even tho those are “likely scum”?

I must be missing something

[Porkens]

Jesus Christ

down

*

[Porkens]

VOTE: Porkens
Shameless OMGUS

Why do people townread this?

[Porkens]

I feel like you are all in on a joke that I’m not in on. No one has answered my initial question and now OMGUS is null.

[Porkens]

What’s wrong with surface level reads?

[Porkens]

Fair sorry

[Porkens]

Radical Rat's vote on me seems over defensive. I didn't even outright say that I scum read there (even if I did imply it), and they voted me. My tinfoil hat pings on the possible coordination between RR and Androgee that somehow fell apart.

Between Catboi and Joey I am null and town lean, respectively.

Norwee townlean, reden nullish

who am I missing?

My post was never intended as a comprehensive solve,

Actually. You did specifically say: "EASY GAME PEOPLE LELELELE" which made me believe that was your final game solve.

(,,Ծ‸Ծ,, ) And you took a page 8 post as a serious gamesolve because...?

VOTE: Porkens

Guys flashwagon pls

-Dumbass

Why did you go this direction?

[Porkens]

*232 by catboi is a scum-point ping.

[Porkens]

Is there such a thing as a mafia tree stump?

[Porkens]

Shit, take care rat.

[Porkens]

If the stump needs corruption to play, that quells some of my initial problem with Rat's reaction.

I can't decide if I hate or love 281. The line about "I originally drafted this for person B, but it applies to person A" is startlingly honest.

[Porkens]

Not understanding the Porkens votes on Page 8. Can someone explain?

Catboi's attitude to the game in post 181 is shit and i want to vote there now.

What's shit about it?

VOTE: Jackel98
I don't townread you.

Why?


I like NDMath's posts on Page 10.


I'm not liking redtea's 221 in regards to Banana at all. It feels condescending and "if I was in your position, I would have done it THIS way." I appreciate the elaboration, but I don't like how they went about it.

I'm also onboard with this regarding redtea:

Red’s post are the worse in the game so far; exclusively showing a scum pov, being almost too self-aware, apologetic, not inquisitive by answering for the person hes asking/talking to. He sounds like a monologue and NEE “What’s a joke?” Is more towny to me than red’s 3 last wall. It says a lot

UNVOTE: NDMath
VOTE: redtea

Who exactly are you asking to explain my vote?

[Porkens]

Wait I’m not even voting, and there are no votes about me on page 8. What are you talking about?

Oh and hai yourself

[Porkens]

Oh THAT page 8. jfc ignore me

[Porkens]

That’s how big my page number buttons are, im lucky I was even close.

[Porkens]

Is it tho?

[Porkens]

I'm getting to this I swear to god

[Porkens]

Yeah - I don't have a clue. I'll put something together tomorrow

[Porkens]

As in I don't have any reads because I haven't even skimmed everything yet.

[Porkens]

Are you a serial killer?

[Porkens]

That’s exactly what a serial killer would say.

[Porkens]

Only have time for pot shots right now. Hopefully tonight.

[Porkens]

RIP you as well, wrong color code. Although it might be ok by the mod so I'd keep trying!!
I meant raise, I have not actually read my role pm, I've only been described it through Nat. My bad if that confused you and made you take some DPS.

~Bee

If it decreased I'd probably just say nothing since everyone will say corruption without a color code and bolding anyway lol.
If it increased it and I was scum I'd just say nothing and literally wack everyone. This is the one it does btw I am just stupid.

Bow down to my strength as I proceed to tag all of you.

~Bee

So first you claimed that you lowered corruption, then you claimed you raised it when you realized what corruption actually did. And you learned that by taking a closer look at your role PM, so I have that right?

[Porkens]

I think it means to be randomly assigned a scum/town role

[Porkens]

I’m not gunna be able to get to this today. Apologies.

[Porkens]

Your desperation to flip someone who is on VLA is pathetic and obvious. I’ll be back on Saturday.

[Porkens]

Good Morning,

I have returned. Content incoming this morning.

[Porkens]

Ample time. brb

[Porkens]

I’m about 3/4 the way done but that’s a fine hammer even if I don’t beat Dunn.

[Porkens]

I apologize for my lack of engagement thus far. When I repped into the game things were just fine, but then my life quickly spun out of control. You can look at my recently completed games if you want to see a big part of it, but there were RL issues as well. My VLA was due to mental health and I needed to self-care ASAP. I had to disengage emotionally for a while because things were getting really dark. I'm in a better space now.

Joey/Norwee/? Seems the likeliest team from my read through. They are very much acting in coordination. The third might be DD or even Math, which would explain the recent misdirection from Joey.

Jackel seems like flip bait to me.

Redtea, SS, Starbuck, catboi, Andro, and Rat/Bell all feel town to me.

I think banana is probably my strongest townread though.

VOTE: math

[Porkens]

I’ve got a busy week of work so I’ll be keeping up as I can.

[Porkens]

I’m being set up.

Norwee, why were you softing saintass yesterday?

[Porkens]

I assumed it was

[Porkens]

Cause none of nanas votes mattered all day?

[Porkens]

I assumed it was

I’m about 3/4 the way done but that’s a fine hammer even if I don’t beat Dunn.

I was backing your play nana.

[Porkens]

Porkens. You came in today with absolutely no reads or valuable comments and all you said is: "this is a setup guys! ;_;"
If you’re not scum, who is?

Right now I’m leaning you. I’m leaning jackel as flipbait but I really don’t like your “shade pork but CW someone else” and your reactions look scripted.

The only reason Joey thought you were town was your saintass crumb, I’m pretty sure.

I was wrong about Joey and math but statistically I have to be right about you, don’t you think?

VOTE: norwee

[Porkens]

And while my contribution has been less verbose, I’ll stack its value up against most of the rest of the list, so kindly crawl out of my ass with your false narrative.

[Porkens]

I was wrong about Joey and math but statistically I have to be right about you, don’t you think?

No. This is just retarded. If you're wrong about your reads you should rethink the game.

Wow touchy.

Guess I touched a nerve!

Happy with my vote.

[Porkens]

Norwee, why were you softing saintass yesterday?

What do you think?

This question hasn’t been answered.
@Porkens

If you’d answered this instead of playing the question game you might have garnered some trust but instead you are just making yourself look worse.

[Porkens]

I was wrong about Joey and math but statistically I have to be right about you, don’t you think?

No. This is just retarded. If you're wrong about your reads you should rethink the game.

Wow touchy.

Guess I touched a nerve!

Happy with my vote.

That’s a pointless way of measuring my alignment.
Why is touchy= scum? Explain your way of thinking please.

I think you came in to today feeling pretty chuffed at town joeys 100% townread of you being locked in, and you got a bit shook when I called you out. You posturing about your town créd and simply omgusing me for daring to question your immaculateness. In the lost charitable light I can imagine, you are scum caught for the wrong reasons. You can quote and color code that however you like.

[Porkens]

Most*

[Porkens]

There is absolutely no way I’m wrong 3/3 on my reads at EOD yesterday. You don’t add up and you are freaking the fuck out.

[Porkens]

I don’t have time for this. if you all don’t see norwee scum I’m not going to waste any more of my breath. I’ll read for his partners and we’ll just go from there. Right now probably looking at DD.

[Porkens]

I don’t have time for this. if you all don’t see norwee scum I’m not going to waste any more of my breath. I’ll read for his partners and we’ll just go from there. Right now probably looking at DD.

K, good riddance.

I have never see norwee tilt this hard. I’m not sure what to make of it.

Jackel still seems like flipbait to me, bee seems townships, and I’m starting to get bad feelings about starbuck

[Porkens]

Beetlejuice achievement unlocked!

Valid question, although...Jackel why do you TR starbuck?

[Porkens]

That doesn't seem strong enough to then advocate for eliminating + vigging both me and Starbuck, where it would put us at ELo if you're wrong twice. Is there any reasoning beyond this for me being your #1 scumpick?

Here is where I interpret you assuming starbuck is town.

[Porkens]

Maybe later.

This kind of stuff just comes across to me like scum who thinks he can’t be caught.

I have no interest in flipping starbuck today.

I am not fully opposed to a mass claim.

Staring to get low grade pings from a couple others

Rat didn’t want his corruption to be lowered, bell. Any insight on that?

[Porkens]

Actually strike that last he layer amended that claim

[Porkens]

*later

[Porkens]

In fact, I'll put it in a new post for emphasis: If there is someone who was responsible or

could

have been responsible for the additional nightkill (via raised corruption), I want them to claim

today

. Otherwise I'm just going to assume it was an SK kill.

are you rolefishing for a town vig or what, what is the point of this ultimatum?

[Porkens]

(⌯͒ᵕɪᵕ⌯͒)zzZ Hardly rolefoshing when multiple people have bandied about the idea of massclaiming today, and nonsensical to single that out from me. I'm saying that if the kill is not coming from town, outing roles further than we already have is bad.

“Nooo don’t single me out I was following the crowd!!”

VOTE: catboi

[Porkens]

Loooot of sheeplings in this game.

[Porkens]

I don’t want to flip either jackel or starbuck atm.

[Porkens]

I see no good reason why catboi made that ultimatum.

[Porkens]

And forcing that hypothetical town player to claim today accomplishes what?

[Porkens]

I don’t understand the obsession with starbuck. Her catchups have seemed fine to me. I don’t really get scum vibes from bee either.

My pool is norwee/catboi/DD. Don’t even need a dart.

[Porkens]

Half the game reads scumreads as town so I don’t know what the contradiction is. As far as I can tell scum are actively trying to mastermind the game and set up mislynch dominos.

[Porkens]

Ngl I’m kinda sick of the cliques.

[Porkens]

“Towncore” lol I’m not buying it.

[Porkens]

1067 and 1071 dismantle the reasoning on her and take her off the table for me.

[Porkens]

Horseshitni don’t believe you

VOTE: androger

[Porkens]

Don’t give them a breath that calombos shit as if there could be two saintass PLEASE HELLO!!

[Porkens]

@Porky if Bee confirms what is your next move?

Back to solving the game by pushing the rest of my scumpool hello?!

[Porkens]

TOWN DOESNT TEY TO LOOK TOWN

FLIP CATBOI

HELLLOOOOOOOO

[Porkens]

So according to Porkens we live in some kind of magical alternate dimension where all scummy players are town and suck at everything they do, while the awesome looking town players that are trying to solve the game are scum.

Imagine being this bad.

[Porkens]

Sorry I just can’t work with this. You aren’t even going to listen to me. As if you ever would. I’ve tried to helping told you who I think is scum and instead of working with me you guys just keep piling on the shit. Banana I’ll try

[Porkens]

What questions are you talking about it looks oikebive answers every question at me

[Porkens]

What questions are you talking about it looks oikebive answers every question at me

Answer this at least please

How about we do this Porky. Because I will not and cannot entertain taking a stab at certain players today because if they are town and are mislynched, we are literally just doing scum a favor here. They are going to kill me and then move onto the other active town players. We can literally leave them for later

So tell me, who are you willing to compromise from this list?

Redtea
Jackel
Starbuck
Bee

I would appreciate 1 name you're willing to compromise on there, the person you most think is scummy. Because I'm telling you, there's no way the scum team is DD/Norwee/Catboi. You may have 1 scum in there. But there is scum outside it as well.

What questions are you talking about it looks oikebive answers every question at me

Answer this at least please

How about we do this Porky. Because I will not and cannot entertain taking a stab at certain players today because if they are town and are mislynched, we are literally just doing scum a favor here. They are going to kill me and then move onto the other active town players. We can literally leave them for later

So tell me, who are you willing to compromise from this list?

Redtea
Jackel
Starbuck
Bee

I would appreciate 1 name you're willing to compromise on there, the person you most think is scummy. Because I'm telling you, there's no way the scum team is DD/Norwee/Catboi. You may have 1 scum in there. But there is scum outside it as well.

happy to compromise on the person I'm voting for.

[Porkens]

the rest of those are town.

[Porkens]

Porkens, what do you think about mass claiming today?

I already answered that question in a post that also contained a question for you, which you did not answer:

Maybe later.

This kind of stuff just comes across to me like scum who thinks he can’t be caught.

I have no interest in flipping starbuck today.

I am not fully opposed to a mass claim.

Staring to get low grade pings from a couple others

Rat didn’t want his corruption to be lowered, bell. Any insight on that?

[Porkens]

I’m a Beastmaster. I have an animal companion that sniffs out targets. I checked redtea last night, who targeted no one.

Using my power gives me one corruption, but the first time I would die from corruption my animal dies instead.

I’m going to look at the claims in detail and reassess but from a glance I’m confused about andros claim progression.

@norwee POE, Tone, Gut, still don’t like your tone or vibes.

[Porkens]

Hah! I fucking called that!

VOTE: norwee

[Porkens]

This is a hard claim.

Everyone in this game has the following post restriction,

Corruption

must be said using the following code. Otherwise we will automatically lower your corruption level at night. Please do not make me hurt you I would be very sad if I did.

Code: Select all

 [color=#8080BF][b]Corruption[/b][/color]

~Bee

So the fakeclaim was that if we don’t format corruption in that way, our corruption level goes VOTE: down and RR was

avoiding

that. And that is townread why? Because some roles “might” use corruption differently, even tho those are “likely scum”?

I must be missing something

[Porkens]

VOTE: Starbuck

E-2 I think.

This loosely makes me think not-partners

Meh

VOTE: porkens for now until i can do a deeper dive

- dumber

These are both really scummy reactions. Not as scummy as norwee but still

[Porkens]

...hahahahaha

VOTE: Starbuck

Sorry this is the other in that “both”

[Porkens]

Spoiler:

Maybe this is just my paranoia kicking in

But this interaction with the flip is just kinda whack

fair enough. if im shooting for town,

i probably target Bell here.

i dont think starbuck should be allowed to be on EOD wagons.

~nahdia

Tbh, i don’t even think Androgybee needs to suicide at this point. I’m fine with them living until we’ve played hangman with Porkens.

Tbh, i don’t even think Androgybee needs to suicide at this point. I’m fine with them living until we’ve played hangman with Porkens.

No its needed 110% they cant live after that claim

Their catchup has been town as fuck. Is an unnecesarry death that limits town votes in the game further just to ease your concience really worth it?

Scum doesn’t make this kinda suicide gambit, they just don’t.

I mean, i won’t cry if they suicide right now. But to me it’s unnecesarry when obvscum Porkens is still alive.

Hey, i wasn't wrong. Androgybee was town.

Hey, no surprise there scum always knows town

[Porkens]

I don't know. It seems... too obvious maybe?

I still don't wanna vote to lynch Norwee today. I'll keep this on the back burner for later. Let's let them use their cleric role if they are town

Durrrrrrr I’m going to remember this post tho.

[Porkens]

I'm not going to say that's not something i totally wouldn't do as scum there though. So seeing that as a plausible narrative makes sense.

2 KPN. If there are 3 mafia + 1 neutral, if you're scum and porkens is town, mislynching Porkens there and sparing Bee is pretty destructive to town, then you guys can just night kill Bell

Ughhhhhh I hate this timeline if you are scum I really don't want that to be the case </3

Nightkill bell?

[Porkens]

Fuck

[Porkens]

Damnit I am not going to get any work done today :p

I have to.

[Porkens]

Not necessarily. If it were so obvious you wouldn’t have felt the burning need to correct it

[Porkens]

I doubt Porkens, Starbuck and Jackal are all scum, it's just never that easy.

This is an interesting post, i'm not sure i know the meaning behind it yet. But i wanna quote it and think about it.

Could I be wrong on starbuck? Norwee can you at least towntell a little for me?

[Porkens]

Could you have self harmed yesterday to give yourself a vote?

[Porkens]

Could you have self harmed yesterday to give yourself a vote?

Yes they could have.

Didn’t miss where they explained why they didn’t do that

[Porkens]

Did i*

[Porkens]

Already did read the thread

[Porkens]

Catboi, DD.

[Porkens]

@ banana: their voting yes have been all over the place and seem much lorenonterestedbin just wagoning than using it to find scum. The Parkinson’s also pretty egreigious. The reaction to the bell flip was textbook scum and the vote record was baaaad. Also I think their tone and approach are pretty obviously scum.

I’m not afraid of hammering yesterday because I thought I was hammering scum.

[Porkens]

Can you elaborate on some bits there? How is the reaction textbook scum? What do you dislike about their vote record?

Their reaction seemed very contrived to me. Like they were hiding their real reaction and trying to have a “natural town like reaction”

Their votes have been all over the place with very little substantive justifications.

Catboi is actually scummier today, the posts he makes are fake-speculative and There are some real contradictions.

VOTE: catboi

[Porkens]

This is a wacky thought but: it's possible the other demons share a similar condition to Bell of dying at 0 corruption. I think we might want to have both cleric claims double up on their target tonight.

I re-read D+D's ISO and don't have anything concrete to come back with, I had been avoiding fully writing them off as town. Can't point to anything they've said that's bad, no real strong towntells, but there's some okayish attempts at evaluating and a little bit of flip-flopping on bell's claim I actually like because it feels like real evaluation. Gun to head I'd probably just guess they're town. Wouldn't vote them before porkens or jackel but would put them below the strong townreads.

A thing that's bothersome about porkens's claim that no one has brought up is how he has an ability that raises his corruption but apparently had no problem hammering on day 1, it doesn't really seem to hold that he'd be so cavalier about corruption when it potentially reduces the amount of times he could use his ability.

Have the weird feeling jackel might be town from the "i still have 0 corruption" post even though that thing isn't impossible to fake it feels more likely a thing they'd think of as town. but then I have no idea who else could be scum.

Note the moral flexibility on corruption. Scum/townreads don’t flow logically or naturally from the predicate

[Porkens]

VOTE: porkens

- dumber

Yep and the partner. Ok game solved everybody we can all go home now.

[Porkens]

Is sarcasm not your native language or what?

[Porkens]

You are just not conversing in good faith.

Still, I don’t think banana is scum. No think banana is an immaculate radiant and benign force for good in the universe, for

sure[/].

I “110%” have called scum between norwee\dumb\catboi

I was dead right on bell and I’m right here again.

[Porkens]

Watch how he insinuates himself into your townreads.

[Porkens]

He's pushing two of the towniest players in the game (cat, nor), and his pushes are so far removed from the reality of the gamestate that i'm having a hard time seeing it come from a town perspective

I am not a slave to the gamestate!

[Porkens]

I already addressed this question twice I think. I called bell/rat for the corruption thing in my very first post; it was the most notable thinning the game, and you know what happened right after that? DUMB VOTED ME.

[Porkens]

If you squint reel hard you can see anything you want to see.

[Porkens]

Moral relativism of corruption is that you scumread who you want based on fact A and townread who you want based on the same fact A catboi. You are twisting reality to support your desired outcome.

[Porkens]

Yeah you are just stepping on my posts as soon as I make them to drown out my voice and silence me. This isn’t fun

[Porkens]

You’ve been so nasty this whole game I didn’t know you were such a nasty person.

[Porkens]

@notwe

[Porkens]

I had some self doubt about my reads going into night 1 and took a stab in another direction.

[Porkens]

What’s good for the goose is what’s good for the gander norwee.

You reap what you sow.

[Porkens]

Never voting jackel in a million years that’s most flipbait I’ve seen in a decade.

[Porkens]

I'll move my vote to porkens when there's a new VC, too lazy to count it myself

And just so we are all clear and on the record, people

townread

this?

[Porkens]

Lol

Spoiler:

[Porkens]

I know

[Porkens]

You don’t need to re-evaluate when you get it right the first time.

[Porkens]

Uhh how about their posts and how everyone has been like “oh well we could definitely flip jackel” all both days so far?

[Porkens]

Yeah, so I'm good with Porkens.

I'd like to be on the wagon and avoid Corruption. I'm currently at 0, so 1 isn't going to hurt if I have to hammer.

I’m aNull but you are “good with it”?

Please turn on your brain, HELLO?! The scum are screaming out loud.

VOTE: notwee this is correct.

[Porkens]

I don’t give a shit about claims this is the correct read based on play.

[Porkens]

Claims don’t matter when they are obviously fake as fuck

[Porkens]

Everyone is afraid to hammer because you all VOTE: know I’m town

[Porkens]

What a terrible, forced, and stupid wagon this is been. Good riddance to you all. Remember my reads-they are all that can save you at this point

[Porkens]

I’m furiously typing out my final arguments on n a (I’m sure) vein attempt to convince you all to wake up, please hold...

[Porkens]

You played bad and you scumread town.
And now you're apparently being furious.
It's sad if you're town.

Again, knows I’m town.


Almost done, it’s a wall