[Demon]Mini Theme 2155: SIN: This Impurity must be Cleansed!

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Hello.

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Fake claim cleric if I need too. Got it.

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Gunna put this here.

Joey #340-341 is interesting.
MathND weak scum vibes from posts #1 and 2.
Lots of early votes Jackal. Don't understand RedTea norwe suspicion.
Charmander acts like he's powerless but he's not blowing me away.

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Bee is nullish.
Something_smart is lean scum. But I feel like he'll probably push back well if I push there. Dunno.

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There's a lot of inactive mis-eliminations to choose from.

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I'm not sure how to move that particular wagon off him.

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I think I kind of put you too much on the grill there.
How do you prefer to play with your mafia partners?

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Hey, don’t be sorry! Nah if you’re a PR you should own It however you’d like.
Joey is full on tunneling you and will continue to make a case against you no matter what you say though. Made the case 3 times now. That means he’s pushing for votes not to figure stuff out.

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I kinda want to give banana a fruit of corruption just because it’s the townie thing to do.
Partly, I want to modify my fake claim and make myself a sort of corruption priest that can give or take away 1 corruption per turn.
The only problem with it is that my understanding of mafia game mechanics is hilariously bad.

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^don’t respond to this. I’m not the elimination today. We can discuss it later tonight.
For now focus on surviving.

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Banana probably can’t hammer. It’s a fake hammer to get a math reaction probably. He has no corruption. Or maybe he lied, who knows. VCA is pretty slow here. But i don’t think math will fall for it, if it is a fake hammer.

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That take is so spicy that I don't know what to do with it. lol.

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Well that was hammer so at least we have time. 1 town down. a lot more miseliminations to go.

I'm not going to visit banana and give him corruption so he can vote. He scared me away with vagueness on his role.

We all joined that wagon by the way.

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In order of NK preference: Joey > Norwe > D_D.

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Gunna modify it and say Joey > Norwe ~ Banana > D_D.

Thread is now locked.

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I'm not sure if Banana being vague about his role means he is going to create an item, he's some kind of automatic vig/purifier of corruption on visitation or he's bsing.

We can give a player 2 corruption.
And prevent one player from reaching zero corruption. I think?

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I get the vibe he’s trying to appear as low hanging fruit. Could be a PR or could just be that he examines how genuine people’s pushes against him are. but i’m more worried about the towncore.

I don’t understand what you mean by sending fruit to the NK target and then having one of us claiming we got the fruit instead of multiple fruit was sent out?

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Agree on Joey kill.

In terms of power roles i’m Not sure who’s a protector. Bee and Norwee might have hinted at being power roles early in the game. But it’s unclear what kind.

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Dunstral in my Role PM it says I can send ‘up to’ 3 pieces of fruit ‘up to’ 3 separate players.

Worded like this it sounds like I can choose to send up to 3 pieces of fruit to a maximum of three different players. Or I could send 3 pieces of fruit to one player, killing them instantly. Could you rephrase what it means, since I kinda doubt we can kill two folk at night every night.

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A possible suggestion would be to redirect S_S and send him a fruit and hit him with corruption. That would be 3 corruption in one turn if he was a power role that could target someone. and unless he can purify himself he’ll die. And if i’m Tracked I can just claim I was trying to slow vig him.

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Thanks Dun. I hope I get to play with you again soon.

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@Dunstral if someone generates an item at night can that item be stolen the same night that it was created?

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Unfortunately I don't think we can hit anyone with 3 corruption in one night, since one of our factional powers just changes 0 to 1. I think Lusting SS and Killing Joey or Norwee is the best course unless one of you has a hotter lead on protect/pr

You're right, this would only work if someone had zero corruption and could target other players. Like Banana for example. If he generated an item and then used it to target someone, we could hypothetically redirect, give him 1 corruption for his original 0 and fruit him for a 1 night kill on night 3.

Or we could steal whatever item he has instead of killing him right away.

I want to hear what starbuck thinks.

Part of me thinks that the faster we kill the towniest players the better off we'll be. So for example I could send a fruits basket to banana, D_D, and Norwe.

Other part thinks if we do too much we'll get found out so there's a high risk high reward element to it.

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Okay, decision time if that's all right. Do we all agree on Joey kill?
What do each of us want to do at night?

Side info that may or may not be correct.
Banana, Norwe, maybe S_S as powerroles.
Banana possibly an inventor or some kind. Has 0 corruption and can't vote unless he gets some. He also can't hammer. So he has to do it either through items or someone intervening on him.
Norwe: Possible Saintess.
S_S: ??

I want to know whether I should be throwing all my fruit at the towniest players or if I should be trying to blend in for a later fruit of corruption fake claim. A towniest fruit player throw would be to send fruit to Norwe, Banana, and (maybe D_D)
A fake claim down the road throw might look like: sending a fruit to Porkens, Banana and S_S.

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Let me know if want me to change this sending.

Bell sends fruits of corruption to BananaCucho, SS, Porkens

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Just fyi, if you were town after hammering and I sent you the fruit you would be dead without some ability to remove corruption. So you'll have to make something up if you say you received a fruit of corruption.

All of the town except for Banana has at least 1 corruption or else they couldn't vote.

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To vote you need at least 1 corruption.
When you hammer a player you get 1 corruption.
Me sending you a fruit gives you 1 corruption.

For a total of 3 corruption.

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If he is a power role that can target others and doesn’t have some means of resetting or removing his corruption. Yes.

If starbuck has no preference I would ask him to visit and steal from banana. Since that puts him up to 2 corruption From 0.

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And she might get an item while She’s at it.

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I Derped. I realized that this isn’t true. When I looked at the game mechanics section.

Banana said at the beginning he had no corruption and that’s why he couldn’t vote. So I took it as gospel.

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You could say your corruption hit 3 when you tried to track and your pet died.
On your beastman fake claim I mean.

Speaking of, how did you guys want me to interact with you tomorrow?

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Town might increase corruption when they use an ability or they might have it go up every night or every other night. One of our fake claims was a curse villager that had their corruption go up by 1 every night.

This is what I mean by saying i’m Bad with game mechanics and balance. I really enjoy getting into it, but i’m Super incompetent when it comes interpretation/what makes sense from a balance perspective. Star probably has a much better grounding to answer that sort of question.

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Motivational quote: no plan survives contact with the enemy.

Looking forward to the mess of power role results that are going to make everything confusing.

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Even better XD.

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Last question, how do we want to approach each other tomorrow in general?

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I wouldn't scum read you, but I might pretend too, to get a better read on you via pressure.
will do.

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Cool.

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I'm just waiting for the other shoe to drop.
D_D just FOSED porkens while voting star instead.

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Gotta wait for more of the powerroles to come back with results.

In a perfect world. Where neither of us were tracked and I'm a priest of corruption that must hand out 3 fruits per day or receive corruption myself.

If you claim beast master and say that you reset, lost your companion and lost your track. I can unvote you when you claim.

They already suspect a vig role which I'm setting myself up to be. But there's really no way to know how they'll react to that. Given the remaining power roles and their understanding of balance. a cop and tracker might be a little too much.

Pretty sure Banana is going to be able to do stuff tonight or today.

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Yup. That's how he died.

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Just an FYI I won't hesitate to vote you today Starbuck since I don't want our associations to be easily analyzed if one of us dies.
It's more about pressure unless they have a positive result from last night.

That said, hopefully this can be steered out.

Banana and D_D have the megaphone on town side. Andro and Norwe might step up, but maybe not.

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They’re really hurting my feelings with all this vig hate.

Just as an FYI this is my fake claim(kittyboi and androbee have not posted if I feel safe to do so i’ll claim this

I’m a priest of corruption that creates 3 fruits of corruption each day. I started with 2 corruption and if I don’t throw all 3 fruits to 3 separate players I gain 1 corruption for each fruit I hold unto.

1. I suspected banana and jackal less( little bit of contradiction here), because I thought they were deposit boxes for fruits.
2. Sent S_S fruit because he was acting scummy and I threw it as a warning. Sent porkens fruit because I wanted to vig him. When he didn’t die or mention the fruit I moved to vote to investigate. Sent banana a fruit because I wanted him to vote and mechanically, It made sense.

Problems with this fake claim: I have no idea if this mechanically makes sense for a town to be given this power. If one of you flips it might be equally strange that mafia don’t die to corruption so the town side would seem unbalanced. I’m not sure, but it sounds like this game could have a neutral role like a serial killer or arsonist. And they might think i’m That.

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Banana probably didn't go anywhere last night. He might be able to, tonight.
We know RedTea didn't.

You were mafia reading Joey/Norwe/??? Would you investigate there or would you pick through your null reads? Only thing I don't want to see is Starbuck being the one tracked. Because that could end badly. It might be funny to say you tracked me and I went to three different places last night, just because of how weird it would be. But you aren't really interacting with me in a way you would if you had that kind of result. So it would be back to bad news.

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You could gamble and say Norwe did it and make it a 1v1 thing, but you might lose that particular battle. In a battle of attrition Norwe will win on a sheer activity basis even if you proactively accuse Norwe.

Wonder where the Bee hydra went.

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I should note that in the text that Dunstral wrote that the fruit I use ONLY works on players aligned with the town, so Banana is aligned with the town. Since he received it and claimed he has 2 corruption (1 from fruit, 1 from creating his item/ability).

Just for summary: Banana just announced he wanted to use his ability "corruption chicken" which will make the game "wifomy"

States it will extend the game day by 1. Increase his corruption by 1 (for a total of 3 and implied he would die) and would have one other "cool effect"

Guess we'll wait and see.

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Sorry, I misread it, Banana has 2 corruption now. So he's not dead.

I'm not sure either. I'll jump off of you at the first realistic chance I can. But I'm not sure what that looks like. I'm pretty much trying to interact with everyone else and try to jump unto someone else when I see an opening.

Maybe Banana's weird skill will change the game state.

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If one of us flips and it is revealed that mafia do not die from corruption that pretty much singles me out pretty hard in retrospect.

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That said, they’re gunna know something is strange if no one claims it.

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Funnily enough you could probably claim fruit vendor porkens since you(or was it star?) had banana as strongest town read.

But i left a bunch of clues in thread. I could also altar the claim to something more limited, but the more mass claims the more obvious it will be that one of the power roles is lying.

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It singles me out because if corruption does not effect mafia negatively then the role is very anti-town esp. if handing out 3 corruption. But i’m Not sure how people will take it, like I said. It’s very unclear.

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To me, because i’m A noob when it comes to balanced roles.

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I’m probably going to fake claim and be a little vague here. But if I got tracked and get caught in a lie. I’ll go down quickly.

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Sorry for the inexperience goof if that happens.

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Claimed guess we’ll see how that goes.

Banana said his ability was canceled, so he’s at 1 corruption RN

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Lol

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Also, I think the tracking people's login times on the front page is pretty gross and I wish you'd stop doing it Bell.

Received. I’ll respect it and stop.

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RedTea just did.

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Gunna let them think there’s an sk or something. There could still be one imo.
But based on redtea’s opinions on my claim I don’t think it would be smart for me to admit to the other 2 fruit sends.

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Just a note d_d and catboi are implying that the Starbucks votes, while initially for activity and pressure are now somewhat based on her IIOA or NAI posts.

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Sorry your family is having difficulty Starbucks.

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Do not join my naked vote. On bee.
I’m basically pushing here with zero expectations of getting anywhere.

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Feel free to Mafia read me if you want and push as hard as you want. Just don’t fos me and vote somebody else.

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Dunstral’s role pm said only town aligned roles would have their corruption raised by fruit.

Though, him asking for for another fruit and a lot of other stuff point to him being some kind of third party. I have no idea.

Switching topics i’m not sure how to pull the heat off you two.

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I am not your only hope.

Also, just reply to my question how you would as town. Feel free to omgus vote me and point out why my vote is suspicious if you would normally do that.

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No, that just makes it clear you're partners with her because he wouldn't refute his movements.

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*She wouldn't refute your movements.*
If you're going to track someone say you tracked a town member. The result is up to you.
We have a track on redtea and he didn't go anywhere, and we know this. So we know that redtea is either lying about his claim or told the truth and he believes his reasons were valid for not swooshing his wand and removing corruption.
You can do redtea, jackal, or anybody you think it would be a good idea to lie about.

Just not Starbuck.

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I'm not sure.

Cleric

- Norwee (Decrease corruption by 1)

Cleric

- redtea (Decrease corruption by 1)

Priest of Corruption

- Bell (increase corruption by 1 with loud modifier)

E.H.

- Banana (Self-harm 1 corruption to increase day time by 24 hours, Can't place votes at 0 corruption.)

[Unknown name]

androgybee (Self-destructing purification role thing...?)
Jackel -

VT

Dumb & Dumber-

VT

Porkens-

Beast master

(self-harm, 1 corruption increase to target another player, sacrifice pet and lose target ability to survive if corruption is 3 or greater)
Catboi-

VT

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KIA

) NDMath -

VT

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KIA

) S_S -

Saintess

(Mod confirmed role, Jack of all trades)
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KIA

) Joey_ -

VT

Not claimed:
- starbuck

For help with potential claim.

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Looks like you catch a break, let's hope that bee doesn't suicide on top of one us.