Micro 960: A Year of Miccros II - Game Over

[Something_Smart]

UNVOTE:

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I'm very sorry to hear that this game I wanted to join needed a replacement. It truly saddens me to see DkKoba and DonCorleone leave and this is in no way related to my desire to play with a waterfowl who shall remain nameless.

Anyway.

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I tried to follow this game from the start but then it was fast and I didn't.

I have a few more boring days at work with which to read up, though, so I should be able to read everything. No promises about retention will be made.

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That sounds like a bad idea. What if I want to engage people about stuff I read?

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Also, what if I end up townreading Alduskkel...

(Well I already know the answer to that. People will ignore me and hammer him anyway.)

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what if aldus is scum

it would be glorious

I mean it's not like the wagon's gonna disappear if I don't hammer it now. If I'm gonna hammer him, I'd rather it be an informed decision.

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the worst (1) - skitter30

This intrigues me and I would like to know more about it

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Well I find the opposite

Sorry. Not hammering tonight. We can talk about it again tomorrow when I hopefully have read at least some of the thread.

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SS get in here so I can read you

phine

reading now

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Tend to have a better trackrecord on you by giving you space

agree w this generally

i guess i feel less motivated to kick off a more intense discussion than usual bc you're not feeling well
normally like for e.g. it occurred to me to ask why you're quite neutral towards a lot of the players who are easier to push into alignment-spewing

I have a galaxy brain scumping on this that's probably stupid

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I'd actually say I'm very careful and fluid with reads in general.
I also think most of the nonmech posts I've made in this game have been inflammatory but I'm not gonna immigrate a gamebot bc I'm not a gamebot

Tag yourself, I'm a gamebot

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Koba

I mean this in the nicest way

You’re an idiot, and you have no idea how to read me, and you should really sheep datisi and skitter both of whom *do* have an idea of how to read me

oh no

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Now they're all voting me cuz revenge - kinda sad cuz I was hoping we could just have a chill time and keep games separate from each other.

So it has nothing to do with 1 random vote this game, Datisi driving the train cuz this is some kind of coping mechanism for him.

What.

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I've changed my mind I don't want to read this :X

(I still will but I'm not gonna like it)

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that one

technically the one after now

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will do thank you.

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also i have just discovered ska punk

best post of the game

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it's definitely stupid

the idea was that he possibly wanted to give that response and was sort of looking for an excuse to, and so he didn't realize the post wasn't directed at him

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What does galaxy brain mean

like, overcomplicated but possibly dumb logic

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idk how to read duck and I'm locktowning you so I'm probably just gonna trust whatever read you have on him

nooo my worst weakness

responsibility

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oh I just realized, is this a reference to that meme that's like the brain exploding thingy

yes

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hmm. are you not worried about me locktowning you?

I'm terrified about it

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man why did I get the obvtown side of this argument lol

I would have totally played on the alt too :3

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terrified because?

I don't like making decisions

I also am scared of you and you not being able to engage me probably makes it that much harder

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I wish you had replaced Koba and I had replaced Don.

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I am scared of misreading you, and I think that you not having to read me will make you harder to read for me.

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convince me that your role doesn't make sense as scum :3

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I'll also say that i'm incredibly capable of writing that as scum so

this seems at odds to my experience with your scum game

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you can't read me by play?

I have no idea if I can

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The scum role PM was sent together to my main

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what's an alt?

Good post <3

Though am I crazy because I thought Don outed already?

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i dont think donc actually believed that koba dayvigged him

This

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i dont think donc actually believed that koba dayvigged him

This

THANK YOU x2

But you were still townreading DC?

He explained this later

He didn't believe the dayvig but he was afraid it was real

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ss i'm not quite solid on but i thought dc was town + he doesn't feel stilted really in the way i caught him in jk++

I did not replace DC, I replaced Koba

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DkKoba was like really really town I'm a bit sad that I have that slot because now I don't have a hill to die on :3

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do not feed the ducks, this includes putting bread and/or words in their mouths.

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SS you asked for mech reasons for me to be town and I gave you stuff and you didn’t respond which is making me a little sad

I am still processing it

What would you have wanted me to say, "no that's bullshit" or "yup you're conftown now"?

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we're not eliminating me today!
i wouldn't, like, force a tw vote but like he's the scummiest person rn to me

we're not eliminating me either!

the PR soft trick doesn't work if you both do it :X

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I ship it

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bbs it's fucking cold my hands hurt

I was like ????? and then oh right winter

yup I had this exact reaction

American chauvinists smh

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Gah

Also SS whenever you’re ready I do wanna talk to you

about what

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where are you in terms of reads and stuff

I have nothing on this whole ducky/skitter/alduskkel fustercluck.

I think Pooky is town and I think you are town. I trust Datisi on bugspray and think Datisi himself is mildly towny.

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Do you think I’m confbiasing myself on Aldus?

Yes

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1790 sounds like a crackpot theory to me. If he really asked the mod for a scum-motivated reason he just wouldn't have said anything about it, in all likelihood. He wouldn't have brought it up unless he genuinely thought there was a valid town justification for it.

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I don't know about anyone else but I don't see Pooky's play as consistent enough for that catch to be relevant.

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I would think you should find that less suspicious than most people knowing that you are town and it wasn't a heavy-handed distancing tactic.

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scumslips are a thing but happen much less than people calling things scumslips

this

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Lilith! Does this game look anything like my scumgame ?

I know I wasn't asked but not really

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The trick is to do no thinking until lylo

then scum can't set up the lylo they want because they don't know what anyone's reads are going to be

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i feel like i've explained why skitter is my #1 scumread in quite a lot of detail u_u

Can you give me the sparknotes

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Not that I couldn't look it up, but I think I can process it better this way.

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I can't imagine that meta from a bastard game such as that is all that good

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Datisi what was your overall impression of bugs

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also ss, what do u think of raven?

Her posting is pretty sketchy, but I feel like I must be out of practice or something because it's incredibly bad form to get a scumread on someone from their opening posts.

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V/LA until Monday

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I'm sorry, I'll try to schedule my family vacations to make my online mafia games more convenient next time :3

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But not on day 1!

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I am le back

Reading up in a few hours

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I’m waiting for SS to catch up.

aah the pressure!

Ok I'm sorry I lied. I'll catch up today though :X

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Okay I am doing this

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@lilith: I mean a lot of your slots' content was Koba vs DC which was just NAI toxic spam

this is not something you can present without proof. toxic spam can, and frequently is, AI.

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because, again, it's based on your actions in this game, and how your read on me has shifted.

- started with a minor townlean despite admitting to not reading the game (scummy, irregardless of prior meta)
- talking to me like you think i'm town and defending me. i'm aware that you tend to defend townreads with tmi etc etc etc. that doesn't change the fact that your townread is basically unfounded and isn't backed up by anything. given that context, defending me is strange there. like the point isn't that you were defending me. the point is that you were defending me while you admitted that you didn't have enough context to actually develop a read of that strength on me.
- upon me calling you out on it, the townread vanishes

That is patently false and also once again not scum indicative for me. I think you are afraid to push tw because you know he’s town and you’re pushing me to avoid that 1v1. And you linking me with Aldus, which you have yet to give a single reason for is also bs.

VOTE: Skitter

Fine, let’s go 1v1.

Hmm.

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I buy town Raven from that post.

Do I buy correct Raven? Maybe? I think this gamestate would be unusually twisted for both skitter/duck being town.

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you realize that if i were scum scared of pushing a mislynch on tw .... i just don't pick a fight with him?

this gives me city flashbacks LOL

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Her push on me is wrongheaded but I can’t ignore the obvious sincerity behind it. Sorry Skitter. :/

Hmmmmmmmm

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dsjstr is in this game !! what.

let's kill dsjstr, when someone disappears from my radar THAT much I think they're > rand scum.

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i'm actually really scared that if i don't get eliminated today then we'll eliminate someone green and then i just get eliminated day 2, which is even worse

HmMmMmMmMm

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maybe we should wait for him to come back before hammering

thanks, I appreciate it

I'm not sure I want Alduskkel to die after reading 2324

actually that's a lie I totally said something like that in JK9++ didn't I

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The case on lilith is similarly tenuous, and while I almost certainly should be voting my counterwagon here, I'm not sure that it would actually be better for the game if she got lynched.

Ah yes

It was about my scumbuddy too lol, but sadly Alduskkel didn't name any particular person he wanted to protect.

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Really skitter? You don't have anything you feel the need to respond to? What about Datisi and Pooky's posts suggesting that we're linked? If you really think I'll flip red, then shouldn't that concern you? If you're content for the day to end on me, then why are you leaving your vote on Raven? Are you uninterested in convincing people to vote Raven? What about my questions to you about the worst?

VOTE: skitter30

I know people are gonna be like haha Alduscum is just distancing but if/when I flip green please keep a close eye on skitter. I think town would be concerned that they're being seen as a scumbuddy to one of their scumreads, but skitter knows I'll flip green so she's like "eh, doesn't matter."

I also know I've said I thought skitter was town but I'm honestly thinking my paranoia earlier was right.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

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2378 strikes me as so Fake As Fuck

Datisi once again echoing my thoughts exactly

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Then again if it isn't fake it's a pretty good point.

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pooky what the fuck

okay but this is also something I identify with after reading, like, 60% of Pooky posts.

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i'd heal this coalition

You'd heal a coalition that you're not in?

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i am not sure if i actually want to hammer aldus
i just like
wish people would vote skitter because she's scum
) :

I would vote skitter probably

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https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... B%5D=34286

Here Lillith, Skitter. this is my scumgame. Do you think I sound anything even close to that here?

Raven didn't post a trust fall fail gif, she's locktown here. gg

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not if you're scum with aldu ...

Hard disagree? If Raven is scum with Alduskkel surely she ends his misery now before they give up more associatives?

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SS I’m super concerned that we have really different views of the game state atm and like how do we reconcile that? Because one of us has to be wrong

we do ?

My readlist is like

lilith, pooky
Datisi, Raven
duck
Dsjtdhvgkbcd
Skitter Thirty, Alduskkel

What is yours?

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If you want me to name the tiers they are townread, townlean, null-town, null-scum, scumlean.

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Yeah those look pretty similar to me

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I think it's plausible.

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Skitter or Alduskkel. I'm pretty agnostic between them.

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I think skitter's flip probably helps us more.

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aaa?

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SS please talk to me about duck I don’t know how to read him

I think it's mostly about fighting for what he believes in?

I don't really have a great handle on what exactly works to read him, but I do have a pretty decent track record. I don't really lean strongly one way yet but I can get back to you when I do.

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Seriously I’m like against personally using meta because I think I just confbias myself into seeing whatever I’m looking for that proves my original reason for meta-diving

Using meta from memory and personal experience good

Meta diving bad

Thank you for coming to my Ted talk

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i thought the 'theme' of the gimmick was 'things that are provable', which is also partially why i bought the dayvig claim, cuz it fit with mine + i was working off the assumption that the mask role was provable as vt/vanilla

:thonk:

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Hi

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this is me checking in, I'm caught up and willing to respect the wishes of skitter/ducky. If skitter is not confirmed town tomorrow I would recommend hanging her first but definitely absolutely and wholly one of them dies tomorrow.

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skitter if your role is not capable of confirming you tomorrow, now might be a good time to say so.

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look you should not have to read me this game lol. koba was extremely town.

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discussion why a confirmed vanilla was killed over two claimed PRs go:

because... skitter and ducky are both town? :X

big yikes

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Skittter is confirmed by Dats but how is duckling confirmed by this? Or am I misunderstanding this?

I'm just spitballing. It is weird that skitter didn't die if scum knew she'd become confirmed and they couldn't RB her.

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Skitter is 100% confitown from this.

Skitter is not 100% conftown, she could be scum with Datisi

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The alternate reasons that come to mind are:
- they were afraid skitter would be protected (but not lilith?)
- lilith had really good reads or was otherwise really scary
- they thought that skitter could be mis-exed despite being potentially confirmable (???)
- they didn't give any shits and just made a dumb shot for no reason
- ducky is scum and they thought that skitter dying would make him look worse than skitter living (1000 IQ WIFOM play right there)

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Wait what is this about ducky softing

This makes 1675 look pretty funny in retrospect

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Can tw just clarify whether he is a PR or not, and whether he was softing or not. That would help a lot.

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If TW actually softed then this obviously wouldn't be the team because there have been three PR claims which seems excessive?

I have a response to this but I don't want to give it until he responds

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Ducky did you soft in PYP? I don't remember.

I do distinctly remember you softing in Sharing is Caring.

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Probably. We should definitely hear ducky and Pooky claim, in that order, and then if there are any other PR's we probably need to know about it (unless their claims are straight-up contradictory).

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Now Pooky should claim.

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that's how i feel right now cuz i'm baffled you thought ss was more likely to die than lilith

Why is that baffling

I feel like you're lowkey insulting me lol. That's fine if you are, I'll accept criticism, but I know the duckling has a lot of respect for my abilities, and lilith was confirmed not PR. Your disbelief reads as confbias to me.

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Shoot Datisi imo because it's highly unlikely you are a non-blank vig if skitter is also a FN.

You really should have shot last night.

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Wait, which player in the game are you?

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I think you + real vig is unlikely. Datisi shot just because of the tiny chance that you are real and Pooky is real vig but Datisi happens to be scum.

pedit: @skitter

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Pooky please claim the name of the player in your role PM

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enomis was a blank vig. I'd be surprised if Micc didn't clarify that Pooky was a blank vig, because they certainly are.

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VOTE: pooky

don't buy it. he knew he was gonna be in PoE after aldus townflip, but decided not to shoot and confirm himself because fElT bAd? sure.

uh if i shot you and you died and flip town and skitter doesn't get confirm'ed we'd be even more f'd

it's not like you knew skitter was FN or that she would target datisi ??

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I don't have any reason to shoot on N1 when I can shoot on N2.

but if you are real then we gain a mis-exe if you shoot on both ...

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we should just finish massclaim at this point imo

dsjstr -> raven -> datisi -> S_S order?

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Looker, VT from Butterfly Mafia. I believe Koba softed this.

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I will also HEAL: Datisi for being such a perfect mod and making it easy to find the role list especially enjoyed reading Butterfly mafia near the end <3

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I don't think duck can be scum here. FN + a bunch of named townies just isn't enough power.

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Which also fits with my gamestate read of skitter being alive in order to push him.

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like if pooky is a town vig who is a vig shooting n2 is a throw

No it's not because in that world the scumteam is exactly skitter and Datisi

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It's moot though, Pooky already said they were enomis, a blank vig.

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@SS what do you think of this idea?

It's trash. It throws away an execution for no reason.

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am i wrong in think that, if the scumteam was dsjstr/bugspray, arguably the two weakest scumplayers here (no offense to either), against some strong town players such as you, duck, donc, that we would've solved this game much earlier and there wouldn't have been such a shitshow of a confusing game?

Yes? Have you never seen a game where a lurker scumteam lets the strong players eat each other alive?

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Idk about dsjstr or bugs but I am definitely a weaker scum player than Raven, not that that's really relevant lol

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What does that mean? How can you be a wicked jester + friendly neighbour? I’m confused.

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What is your read on Pooky? You had him as one of your top towns D1?

Yeah, but he's been all over the place which makes him pretty hard to read. At this point I can concede that he might be so unaccustomed to the current meta that he would be doing stuff as scum that I wouldn't expect to see from scum.

But on the other hand, I can also concede that him not making any sense recently can still be town who just isn't really thinking about what he's saying. Something which town is more likely to do than scum.

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who else do they kill if they wanna keep fanning the flames between you/duck?

Me?

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It's moot though, Pooky already said they were enomis, a blank vig.

I don’t understand, why is he then claiming not to know?

Because Micc copies the role PM's verbatim from the game in question.

That said, I would be surprised if he did not clarify afterward as he did with the Night 2 Investigatioire in the last Miccro game. So I suppose this is worth a shot.

*takes a deep breath*

Micc, if you were to include a Vigilante role from Micro 941: Brass and Shrapnel, would you choose an individual player slot and then assign that player as either a True or Blank Vigilante depending on what the slot in that game was, or would you randomize it according to the normal generation procedure for Brass & Shrapnel? And, if you did assign it according to the game, would you then clarify to the player that they actually

did

know whether they were blank or not, even though the role PM implied that they did not?

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What was it like?

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That sounds like the exact opposite of what Pooky is like here.

But this being a closed game could provide some of that difference.

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Why do you think it's the exact opposite? I see some similarities?

He's playing incompetently, his progressions are ridiculous and unrealistic, and his push on Alduskkel was not at all convincing.

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Anyone have an opinion on this?

It's hella scummy

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Oh.

Well, any last words, Pooky?

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The mod just confirmed Pooky as lying, yes.

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Yes.

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I mean we'll wait for the flip but it's likely that he's just a goon from B&S.

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I genuinely can't say whether I would have thought to ask Micc whether vig was possible as Pooky's partner-- but I probably would have asked him what I just asked him, to determine whether Pooky should say "I know I'm a blank vig" or "I don't know whether I'm blank or not."

If that's what you're thinking about, anyway.

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Anyone in particular i should be fn-ing?

I mean, if Pooky actually is scum then it doesn't matter.

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Let's be clear that dsjstr certainly has higher odds of being scum than Pooky right now.

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this game is gonna be the end of me

I'm not saying I like it. I'm just saying it's the truth.

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if y'all wanna execute dsjstr, fine. but i'm opening day 3 with a vote on pooky, literally zero questions asked and regardless of what dsjstr flips. procceed as you will.

Why can't Pooky be town here?

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Dsjstr and Raven?

Is your bugspray read that solid?

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In my opinion, Pooky's arguments are so transparently bad faith that that's probably just how he thinks.

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Like quite honestly from what I've seen from him this game I can totally buy him thinking a vig claim will get him killed over an obvtown, a BG, and a conftown.

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I don't think you are particularly, I just think it's something that Datisi should be considering more heavily than he is.

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I think he's more self-aware than that

the main thing here is that it took him no more than two minutes from the time he saw that his vig claim was disproven before he claimed bomb.

that's, like, incredibly quick thinking as scum, for an explanation that's fairly plausible.

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why are you sure he posted immediately after seeing the vig claim get disproven?

I doubt 3173 came while he was aware that his claim was under fire. That sounds like something you'd address as soon as you saw it.

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I remember SS/Raven jumping on the wagon at various points and almost eliminating me and both players are very solid as read town across the entire town

I have not voted yet this game

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i wouldnt fake claim vig as scum period lol

That seems quite hard to believe.

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do you have any Thought on the Game

I feel like my 46-hour absence should answer this pretty well :X

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im pretty sure ive never fake claimed vig as scum ever afair

Neither have I, but if I were handed that game as a fakeclaim it seems an entirely reasonable thing to do.

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I've become scum with SS.

Dream team!

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also is it bad that i'm not really townreading ss anymore?

yes

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it's not like I would have let my activity get this low if I knew I would ever be anything other than locktown

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of course I do

while I'm locktown, there's no reason for me to be actively sharing my thoughts if I don't want anyone to answer anything.

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who says I'm not?

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I don't have any clue what your alignment is honestly, I keep going back and forth in my head

and yes my play today makes a lot of sense as locktowned scum. but that ignores the reasons I got locktowned in the first place.

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ss, could you update us on where you're at?
i'm not feeling as confident as i wish i was, tbh

I want to kill dsjstr

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I'm just curious btw

if you are scum - is there a chess game in the Scum PT between Koba and Bugspray ?

Yes. If I am scum, there is a chess game in the scum PT between Koba and bugspray.

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skitter > tw > datisi > pooky > raven > dsjstr

don't @ me

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It's semantics. I use locktown to mean extremely confident town based on reads, as opposed to conftown which means confirmed town based on mechanics.

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Why the bolded? @SS?

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(in case that was a serious question, the answer is because I expected putting Pooky over you to be controversial.)

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actually Raven on reread your latest string of posts isn't as bad as I initially thought it was. Stuff like 3569 does rustle my jimmies though.

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I don't have any clue what your alignment is honestly, I keep going back and forth in my head

and

yes my play today makes a lot of sense as locktowned scum

. but that ignores the reasons I got locktowned in the first place.

??? Did you read this before you pressed “send”?

I don't see what's confusing about this, btw. If I'm scum here who got mistakenly universally townread, it's totally reasonable for me to lurk the day out and let town eat itself alive... but that assumes the reasons for me getting universally townread were wrong in the first place, which by definition they were unlikely to be.

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my reads are really just [giant mess] > dsjstr

we definitely need dsjstr's flip to make sense of anything

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fwiw I both think dsjstr's vote on datisi could be distancing and don't buy datisi's argument that he wouldn't have confirmed skitter as scum here

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It read like a weird contradiction, which is why I assumed it was some kind of typo or something like that.

yeah I guess it was because you were interpreting "locktowned" differently from me. makes sense.

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have you read any Dats’ scumgames?

I don't believe so

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smuggler's port???

I played in smuggler's port but that does not mean that I read it

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are you genuinely thinking about killing me here?

well you just had the same reaction I did to someone trying to reintroduce me to the execution pool

so no, not really

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dsj flips scum -> we can probably just kill you/raven and be happy

dsj flips town -> something is rotten in the state of denmark. is it datisi? is it tw? who knows, really, we get to have a real fun and by fun I mean not fun lylo to figure that one out.

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ummm not sure i agree with this assessment

are you suggesting that I as scum couldn't think of anything to say for 46 straight hours and somehow didn't think that people might think that was suspect?

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you disappeared for fairly large swaths of city
and basically posted fluff in jk++
but your indignation right there probably counters that

in city I basically was locktown lol

and in JK I was legitimately convinced I was gonna die on two separate occasions and so I was antispewing to some degree... but even then, posting fluff is different from not posting at all because if people want to ask me questions they still can.

also in both cases there probably was RL going on.

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you've been mostly fluffposting the whole game tho

come again?

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I just went through my entire ISO, I have 8 fluffposts in 170 posts. What are you on about?

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Am I missing something @SS? Why does dsjtr flip affect your read on me in the slightest?

I don't know. We'll see how my read on you changes after dsjstr flips!

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right, and the difference between that and you claiming to be able to dsappear here for 46 hours cuz you've been locktowned is

Apparently I was wrong here?

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I’d really like an answer to 3622 please.

I don't understand the question.

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i re-read your ISO today and it felt very fluffy

What is your definition of fluff then? Because mine is "posts that aren't related to the game."

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I townread Datisi independently of the belief that dsjstr/Datisi isn't ruled out by dsjstr voting Datisi.

However if dsjstr is town then the gamestate is much more likely to be significantly screwed because everyone except him has a decent reason to be town, so that makes Datisi-scum more plausible.

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not sure what you're trying to say

in that game I disappeared for a while because I was locktown

in this game I disappeared for a while because I thought I was locktown, but apparently I was wrong.

(I actually think I disappeared in City because of RL, but whatever)

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if you think your'e locktown wouldn't it be more helpful to, like, everyone if you're present and sharing your thoughts?

only if my thoughts aren't garbage

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and i think that arguing that you can disappear if you're locktown is kinda silly to help you maintain that status if that's a characteristic of your scumgame

it's also a characteristic of my towngame though

in smuggler's port I got confirmed as town and promptly prodged for, like, five days afterward.

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why you think there’s any associatives between him and me?

I never said that.

My read of the gamestate is that skitter/Datisi/tw are all town. If dsjstr flips town, I have a whole lot less confidence in that read.

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btw this is officially the largest micro game on site, and we're only on day two! exciting!

whoa really

[Something_Smart]

skitter30 has been Marked for Death Night 2. She will die at the end of Day 3.

huh

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Is it bad that i feel like my solve is currently ss/pooky?

a) yes
b) are you saying that I would ask the mod the question that confirms my partner's claim as fake and then somehow not bus him
c) go read koba again
d) I would know better than to voluntarily enter mylo over lylo??

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Ya

Pedit idk
That's why my first thought was Doubt at tw, like why kill me in this way over just letting him die ???

The fact that marking exists in the setup is obviously indicative of a protective role though

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Is it bad that i feel like my solve is currently ss/pooky?

a) yes
b) are you saying that I would ask the mod the question that confirms my partner's claim as fake and then somehow not bus him
c) go read koba again
d) I would know better than to voluntarily enter mylo over lylo??

e) why do I kill lilith who is locktowning me

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Datisi how are you feeling about Raven

I swear you keep answering this and yet I still don't know, it's very weird

[Something_Smart]

why is this a point? or like why is lylo so much better for scum here than mylo?

Because you only have to fool one townie rather than two?

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Like if I'm scum with Pooky, I'm clearly not going for the megabus angle, so I think there's at least a chance we can both endgame. So why would I make that job way way harder while keeping alive a duck who's objectively terrifying?

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I think scum saw a shiny toy and wanted to play with it

[Something_Smart]

Quite

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Also town might be people who were very concerned about making sure the fn went through late in the day yesterday?

Maybe, but the best way to make sure the FN goes through is to... not talk about it at all.

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On an unrelated note, the FN went through.

Just in case that matters somehow.

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V/LA until Sunday

as well

I'll be around for a while longer today though

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So are we just looking at 2/3 in ss/pooky/dats?

you mean S_S/Pooky/Raven?

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gth

what does this stand for because my first thought was "go to hell" but that doesn't seem right

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Why tho. Bg doesnt do anything helpful here

Sure it does, it stops a normal kill, which would otherwise be strictly better than a poison except for WIFOM reasons

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is there a possibility this mark was done because scum didn't want a s_s/raven/dats final 3?

No? How can they avoid that?

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And dsjtr was never going to vote me. Why did you never vote yesterday or check in with the VC?

I never felt the need to end the day

Wdym "check in"

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???

They wanted to use the mark to bypass the BG even if it wasn't optimal

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Exactly. @SS aren’t you supposed to be some mech genius or something?

I am. There's a big difference between killing someone tomorrow and killing them today. You may note that skitter is still alive and confirmed and can lead us in lylo. If not for the BG, they could (and would) have just killed her.

The mark is a strongman with a drawback. No point in having a strongman if there's nothing for it to bypass.