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I doubt we have more than one scum on george wagon. Could still be none but if there was one scum on his wagon. Then it most likely Alduskkel
if george is town then hellbrooks prob town- bob3141
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Interesting we have 3 wagons reach over 4 votes. Yet ico wagon falls before it reaches 4.In post 216, Raya36 wrote:
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Could be nothing as this is from just a snap shot of the vote counts- bob3141
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what do you think im doingIn post 1204, VP Baltar wrote:Are you going to read the game?- bob3141
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In post 1208, VP Baltar wrote:
Trying to do VC analysis with zero flips and the assumption you're town...which isn't actually helpful at all, imo.In post 1206, bob3141 wrote:
what do you think im doingIn post 1204, VP Baltar wrote:Are you going to read the game?
I'm asking if you are reading the game or just going to keep posting votecounts. You do you. Just want to know what to expect.
Are you not analysising the vote counts with the assumption that your town?- bob3141
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ok we have my wagon
GeorgeBailey, VP Baltar, Datisi, Iconeum, hellbooks
now george was taget of early wagon. Low chances of scum
Hellbroks cast the 4th vote so again lower chances of being scum
datisi unvote of snow looks towny
An vp seems to realy not like that im reading the two leading wagons as each having one scum- bob3141
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In post 1212, VP Baltar wrote:
I don't try to do VC analysis much until I actually have information to work off. I would of course look at any wagon on me and see who is on it.In post 1210, bob3141 wrote:Are you not analysising the vote counts with the assumption that your town?
The fact you are making all kinds of inferences on OTHER wagons not involving your slot is beyond silly when you don't know the alignment of anyone on them.
Plus you asking questions like "datisi what do you think of Ico" seems like a giant waste when you could easily glean that info from reading the game.
So you dont have enough info to work off. what about all these vote counts that we have.
Why are you trying to ignor thing like speed of wagon development, Wagon sticking power and vote spread.- bob3141
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thats not logic. Thats based on game state. A hole different animalIn post 1263, DkKoba wrote:ur the one yelling abt wagon analysis- bob3141
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In post 1264, VP Baltar wrote:
Of test and Bob, who do you prefer eliminating?In post 1248, NoPowerOverMe wrote:Okay, so why is test better than bob?
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In post 1292, Andresvmb wrote:Claiming a PR is complicated and reeks of Scum most of the time. It would have gotten Snow killed pretty quickly.
So you saying a player simply claiming doc is complicated.
Serously this reeks of scum. In his own post he admits he would have been happy to lynch a pr claim. Very anti town- bob3141
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In post 1319, Andresvmb wrote:Can somebody please point where I said I would have been happy to vote for a PR claim? You’re the one that reeks of Scum making broad generalizations without even reading the game. A PR claim near death (particularly unprompted because nobody indicated they would hammer) would have been suspicious, and could have accelerated momentum against them. This also could be entirely related to site meta. Whatever.
So if teh slot i had repped into had been a town pr rather than a vt. And snow had claimed that would you have still wanted him day one?- bob3141
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So who do you think is scum on each of teh wagosn when they were tiedIn post 1323, VP Baltar wrote:In post 1269, bob3141 wrote:In post 1264, VP Baltar wrote:
Of test and Bob, who do you prefer eliminating?In post 1248, NoPowerOverMe wrote:Okay, so why is test better than bob?
See these are comments that scum make. Scum when they have two town wagosn always talk about this one or that one.
Hey everyone, guess who I'm impersonating:
"Both the leading wagons are town. But scum won't join them to push them over the edge for like 20 pages now.
LOGICCCCCCC IS KINNNNNNGGGGGG"- bob3141
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In post 1330, VP Baltar wrote:if everyone wasn't on V/LA pretending they don't have crippling internet additions, we'd already be in twilight. Sad.
Bob, you should give your opinions on your PoE pool so we can make associations after you're gone.
dakota, vp bakter, Alduskkel, Andresvmb, powers, jankofan
Hard scum leans on vp baker and and.
rest most likely town.
And if i was scum you would always get the wrong scum associations Good thing im town- bob3141
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If town then you just cant read game state.In post 1327, DkKoba wrote:
Occams razor is hardIn post 1323, VP Baltar wrote:In post 1269, bob3141 wrote:In post 1264, VP Baltar wrote:
Of test and Bob, who do you prefer eliminating?In post 1248, NoPowerOverMe wrote:Okay, so why is test better than bob?
See these are comments that scum make. Scum when they have two town wagosn always talk about this one or that one.
Hey everyone, guess who I'm impersonating:
"Both the leading wagons are town. But scum won't join them to push them over the edge for like 20 pages now.
LOGICCCCCCC IS KINNNNNNGGGGGG"
Scum dont pile up if they dont have to. Snow claimed vt so you need to look at who tried to run others up. Why would scum do this, why to get claims.
means the test wagon was prob scum motivated. Shift two wagons into tvt and at worst you get oen lynched and at best you get two claims and one town dead.- bob3141
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While the fact the snow wagon didnt break up implies that atleast one scum was still on it at the point test was getting run up. Now it might have only been one from the start. But fact test got run up with out an extra vote on snow for 2 days. Means scum didnt want snow lynched at that point. That they wanted more claims. If test had been scum then the snow would have got back up to l-1. No way scum would act idle if a counter wagon formed on their buddy.
Scum on wagon act as glue. The higth teh town to scum ratio on wagon the more likely it breaks up.- bob3141
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In post 1338, DkKoba wrote:why was it scum motived?
Do you town read all those that joined you?
Your claimign you think im scum. Yet only one from that wagon has joined you. And that was after you left.- bob3141
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So are you sayign you agree with me that test is town?In post 1340, VP Baltar wrote:
Good argument for Bob scum here.In post 1339, bob3141 wrote:If test was scum. Would all 4 of them really have joined. More likely you would have had those that are scum joining my wagon at that point
If so why are you claiming this affects my slot. And why if you think 2 of them are scum that they simply wouldnt bus.
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You see if you want a player lynched as scum. You dont join the wagon. You form a counter wagon on another townie.
Best case you get that player lynched and teh original player lynched the next day. At worst they cause that original player to get lynched.
And not forgetting the chance to get more claims to help pr hunting- bob3141
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In post 920, jankofan wrote:@datisi Ok I guess? still feels like a reach but w/e i cant really say im familiar enough with the game that i know whos sring npom, but its moot anyway because the read isn't faked at all. npom dedicates three posts to talking about how he missed the claim asking snow what it was. my intuitions about time management say that a cursory look at the last page would've been a lot quicker than writing three posts but i could see scum trying to emulate that sense of being idle and casual about the situation.
I'm townreading you because i feel like you're pushing me and it feels like you really want to be right about your take on me and that motivation and the tone that comes with it are obviously town
im pretty sure im still tring snow. of the ppl on snows wagon ico feels a lot like scum and im not sure who else was even on it
see this what scum do.
They town read the original wagon and push the second. All the while scum on the first guy stays put. And you get tvt situation that guarantees a town miskill- bob3141
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In post 938, jankofan wrote:I think the reason I'm tring snow is that she seems like she'a actually introspecting and also that she seems focused on things that people who are solving tend to be focused on
see a defense that will not stop anyone from scum reading the player. A read just to look good post flip.- bob3141
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And see this vote that push terra to e-1
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In post 896, jankofan wrote:Hey @datisi so the reason I neglected to answer this
was because koba said this immediately afterIn post 456, Datisi wrote: i'm not sure i get this? like to me it feels ico is solving and it also focused on the persons pushing them? like can you elaborate on this?
also, you're townreading me, yeah? (i'm assuming by 436) how come, i feel like our reads are complete polar oppsoites right now?
which is what I was trying and failing to say in the original post you quoted. I guess it was lazy of me to have expected you to make that connection and it looks like you just wanted a response from me and not necessarily a response to what you were asking me to clarify, so here it is.In post 468, DkKoba wrote:ico exhibiting the scum mindset of being frustrated over being scumread over what they perceive as the "wrong reasons"
jumped on the testa wagon because it seemed good and i didn't really have that much to add to the case so why talk for no reason yknow
see the first he realy said on teh slot was post vote. And no pointed did he realy give a reason not to vote my slot. Just a weak reason to town read it.- bob3141
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In post 1746, Andresvmb wrote:
Because I cannot make sense of this. Scum clearly were not pushing both wagons equally, yes? I think Bob would have died far more easily if that had been the case.In post 1705, Datisi wrote:i'm actually fairly confident both EoD wagons are town. janko's wagon took a fair bit of pushing to go through. if bob were scum, i think his buddies would've joined me in pushing janko much sooner.
that's why i thought georgebailey was scum. his late vote on janko (and janko flipping town) made me think that scum was pushing both wagons ~equally, and his vote seemed like the least committed one. but, uhhh... guess i was wrong.
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Is this what they call gaslighting?In post 1800, NoPowerOverMe wrote:That's all you have to say Bob?
Like serously, do you expect people to be on your beck and call. Im not going to let my dinner so cold to spend time on this am i- bob3141
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What im finding odd. Is that your claiming me and janko could never be tvt. When in that game there were countless examples of tvt wagons.
So npow who do you think is scum. You claim me but you seem to be pushing that all the scum must have been on janko wagon. So who do you think teh 3 scum players are and why?- bob3141
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In post 1806, NoPowerOverMe wrote:I never said or implied all scum were on janko wagon. I said it was probably scum driven.
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Didnt you just say that the wagon was scum driven.In post 1812, NoPowerOverMe wrote:You and test are scum IMHO. Not sure on 3rd maybe alduskell or Billy.
Billy wanted you.
test didnt do much
And although i cast the first vote i took no part in pushing the wagon. Apart from a smattering of first impression reads.
And thos realy pushing janko to his lynch. Based on your reads were all town
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In post 1814, NoPowerOverMe wrote:Survivalist scum.
lol as scum im never survivalst. As scum i play the fall guy. Read my pvt. See how its always about me setting up my buddies for the win.
If i was scum it would be with ddkao. Or another hard pushing my wagon.- bob3141
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You just said it was scum driven. Thats you saying the wagon was ai.In post 1817, NoPowerOverMe wrote:I don't think the wagon was entirely ai. You are making it a black and white thing. - bob3141
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