Newbie 2023 - Hedgehogs - Day 3

[Nash]

huehuehuehuehuehuehuehue

agreed

VOTE: Andresvmb

[Nash]

Join me on Andresvmb for free towncred

[Nash]

Townpings from excited!IV

[Nash]

Townpings from excited!IV

extends to Clarity

[Nash]

Serious VOTE: innocentvillager

[Nash]

Nash, what caused this vote?

Townpings from excited!IV

Townpings from Nash pointing out that "excited!IV" SHOULD give you townpings!

This looks to me like IV rewarding someone just for townreading them, which I find a bit scummy in this instance given that it was completely NAI and scum only want towncred.

with stupid max. townie games, a townread indicates scum assuming a new/other meta/metagame player. Esp this early with 0 concrete data, only personalities. Clarity's probably too good to be true.
VOTE: Clarity
Also, good to see people finally not being AFK. Too bad I can't do the good ol' D1 fake jester cause of daystart D:

VOTE: Clarity I can get behind this

The townreads on Clarity were formed from the same premises, so joining the Clarity wagon over another is a progression that does not compute.

[Nash]

Join me on IV guys, you will be rewarded with cat gifs

[Nash]

I think Ouroel is town

[Nash]

IV, what do you think about your wagon?

[Nash]

I think IV paired with TB or Andres are less likely than random

[Nash]

Spoiler:

[Nash]

I think IV paired with TB or Andres are less likely than random

What makes you think this was less than random?

Spoiler: Andres

I guess townpoints to andres? he could’ve just not pointed it out?

This is an odd reason to townread someone because of the VC just above. I don't expect scum!IV to make the team too obvious this way in case of a flip. Too incautious.

Why? The point is simple. It’s not likely that a Scum Partner would so casually put you close to death like that. They would have been more careful. I’m not SR your slot (I can’t tell what you are yet), so I’m leaning towards caution.

Andres points out how a scum partner would be careful when the other is put close to death just as he switches over to TB without a reason. It's a bold move as his partner to make a self referential statement like this.

Spoiler: TB

lmao am I just casually at E-1

Should I claim?

curious whom you had in mind

lmao am I just casually at E-1

Should I claim?

curious whom you had in mind

like what role I was thinking about claiming?

was that bait

oh I thought you were asking me what role I was thinking of claiming huehuehue (probably Cop or JK, that’ll always get a nice PR to go down with me). If I was scum. If I was town probably just my actual role or whatever

Nah I was just curious if people wanted me to claim because I was at E-1 and that’s what you’re supposed to do at E-1

now I don't know if you're still doing it

This interaction doesn't strike me as scum-scum.

[Nash]

Am getting more of tr on andres also.

Why?

[Nash]

Bellaphant, why're you still voting for notscience?

[Nash]

I feel like BP is coasting and I think that's probably town indicative because of scum BoP

[Nash]

Ouroel is town because I don't think scum would be as... spewy as he is?

VOTE: Clarity

[Nash]

her lack of engagement once the Thread picked up/she took some heat is worrying

This along with how she townread activity.

[Nash]

@nash, wut

I mean her only townread was on a consensus town who says is experienced enough to act the same way as either alignment, because of activity.
Tin foil hat theory - scum!Clarity found it hard to engage with the thread, so activity was a towntell for a fakeread off the top of her head.

The slot needs more pressure.

[Nash]

VOTE: Nash

[Nash]

VOTE: Andresvmb

[Nash]

Plurshift?

[Nash]

Plurshift?

Some sites/setups use a plurality of votes rather than a majority to determine eliminations. I'm assuming this means changing the leading wagon.

It does, yes.

Oh, right.

[Nash]

I think IV paired with TB or Andres are less likely than random

What makes you think this was less than random?

Spoiler: Andres

I guess townpoints to andres? he could’ve just not pointed it out?

This is an odd reason to townread someone because of the VC just above. I don't expect scum!IV to make the team too obvious this way in case of a flip. Too incautious.

Why? The point is simple. It’s not likely that a Scum Partner would so casually put you close to death like that. They would have been more careful. I’m not SR your slot (I can’t tell what you are yet), so I’m leaning towards caution.

Andres points out how a scum partner would be careful when the other is put close to death just as he switches over to TB without a reason. It's a bold move as his partner to make a self referential statement like this.

Spoiler: TB

lmao am I just casually at E-1

Should I claim?

curious whom you had in mind

lmao am I just casually at E-1

Should I claim?

curious whom you had in mind

like what role I was thinking about claiming?

was that bait

oh I thought you were asking me what role I was thinking of claiming huehuehue (probably Cop or JK, that’ll always get a nice PR to go down with me). If I was scum. If I was town probably just my actual role or whatever

Nah I was just curious if people wanted me to claim because I was at E-1 and that’s what you’re supposed to do at E-1

now I don't know if you're still doing it

This interaction doesn't strike me as scum-scum.

I don’t think it’s a bold move to say any of the things I’ve said so far. If anything I felt my statement was somewhat obvious - Scum Partners aren’t likely to put each other close to death in a game with 2 Scum so early in D1 without even considering the vote count or trying to get as much Town cred as possible by making a show of it.

Yeah, I meant that if you were aware of that and are IV's partner, you would have been cautious about the revote.

[Nash]

VOTE: Bellaphant

Just my early guess. I can’t see a lot of what’s in 272. Hence, my vote.

Can you be more specific?

[Nash]

VOTE: Nash

Nash, why did you vote for yourself?

Idk, I was bored.

[Nash]

I ISO’ed Clarity really quickly. I had Clarity as Lean Scum at first but I feel bad about that read now. Clarity is a bit null to positive for me. The vote on me via process of elimination I can’t really object to (though I would be interested in them maybe expanding on what you think has been Towny from Bellaphant and The Bulge), and otherwise they seem to be trying to figure out the game.

How is Clarity's TR on me different from BP's?

[Nash]

Give me a reason to TR you Nash.

I think it's too early to have hard stances. What makes you think I'm detached?

[Nash]

Give me a reason to TR you Nash.

I think it's too early to have hard stances. What makes you think I'm detached?

Why do you believe it is too early to have a hard stance?

No one has pinged me

hard

either way yet.
Not to be confused with not having any stances at all though.

Spoiler: read list

[notscience]

[Ouroel, BP]

[TB, Walter]

[Andres]

[Clarity, IV]

Spoiler:

@Clarity, how did Andresvmb's recent posts affect your PoE?
@NS, how do you read TB now?

Are we allowed to talk about jankofan?

[Nash]

VOTE: Clarity

[Nash]

VOTE: innocentvillager

[Nash]

Can you tell me a bit more about clarity?

I think her reads are pretty vague in a way that can be faked easily as scum.

[Nash]

What's the case on NS?

[Nash]

Hey, back and reading.

[Nash]

Sorry for all that inactivity but I'll be around until the deadline.

[Nash]

VOTE: Andresvmb

[Nash]

I don't see a problem with the reasoning behind Walter's wagon.
If he's town, I feel like scum would have pressured sooner.

Still a hard null read but I can put my vote here.

[Nash]

Andres x Bell is unlikely.

[Nash]

VOTE: Nash

It occurs to me that I might sleep through the 8 hour deadline.
Since it’s 11:55pm and the deadline ends at 8 pm and I fall asleep around 1

This is scummy af.
IV, why do you TR Bell again?

[Nash]

VOTE: innocentvillager